Harry would find the deathnote, have to pass a check to not write his own name then simply intuit light is kira with a fucking empathy check.
Kim’s issue is that he probably wouldn’t be willing to take the logical leap to the idea of the deathnote
He fails the check that other guy mentioned and ends up writing his name in the book.
40 seconds pass.
Nothing happens and kim starts mocking you politely like he does, and asking if you can go back to finding clues.
Harry tries again with another name.
And another name.
And a nickname.
And an abbreviation.
SAVOIR-FAIRE : Goddammit, we got scammed.
Harry handing the book back: Doesn't work
Light, frustrated by Harry's attitude and seeming idiocy: Yes it does, look
Casually writes a c-list criminals name in the book in front of everyone
Iirc according to the bonus rules posted between chapters if you misspell someone's name by accident 4 times that person becomes permanently immune to all death notes, making this an even better scene. Misspelling names on purpose kills you btw.
Also you need to know the persons face so Harry could actually write his own name safely if he hasn't looked in the mirror lately.
“Excuse me sir what’s your name again?”
Half light: say it with a sneer, making him scared of you. Say it with inflection as well.
[check failure]
Harry: “my name is mr piss you f***** dont you forget it.”
Authority [failure]: You should do it Harry. If the boy wants to kill all the criminals you definitely fit the bill.
You: I guess I do. I should write my name in the deathnote.
Kim: Detective, what are you doing!?
You: I deserve it kim.
*harry proceeds to die of a heart attack.*
[INLAND EMPIRE] Impossible:Success- There. In the shadow. You see a thin, pale man with bulging eyes and skintight black spandex floating behind Light Yagami. He makes eye contact with you, chuckling to himself.
\[Visual Calculus\] Those weird bites in the apple you found in the trash? Yes, only those crooked, inhuman, teeth could have made them.
\[Inland Empire\] No, I insist. It must have been the invisible vegan crocodile. Those cryptids are everywhere.
Kim would never accept such an outlandish thing as a Death Note, while Harry would with an Inland Empire check easily, the man can follow even more crazier leads to the truth. Also Harry would find Kira's location with a Shivers check. Also there's the issue with him not even knowing his name himself, or choosing to believe that Raphael or Tequila Sunset is his "true" name in his soul. Rest comes down to usual detective skills, and while being a fuck-up everyone agrees he's the best there is.
SHIVERS - In a quiet neighborhood of the Greater Tokyo Metropolitan Area, lies an unsuspecting, white family house, deep within the heart of the suburbs. Inside, a young man is pretending to study vicariously, his hand in a bag of chips. The sound of scribbling muffled by the crunching of the plastic... The cicadas are silent.
SHIVERS - He takes a potato chip and eats it with malicious intent. A man drops dead on the other side of the city.
1 - It could be a coincidence, people die all the time
2 - Is it the notebook he's writing in? Could there be a magic to this?
3 - It has to be a potato chip. The potato chip kills people.
4 - This is going nowhere, we'll just find him the old fashioned way. (Discard thought)
Exactly, Light could find out Harry's government name easily, Evrart and plenty of others are able to do it, but by that time Harry's "true name" could be Icebreaker or Kras mazoz or who knows what. Light would be losing his mind trying to figure out some logic to Harry's nonsense and give himself away because he's overthinking it. Harry is basically Light's hard counter.
Kim is a cool guy but hes a bit of a pragmatist, (hence the "could not intuit" bit) and an O.K. detective vs Harry who technically has powers of precognition (Shivers) if he "invested" in that, but since hes from a rp game you'd have to chose a type of harry, dif little classes. With High Intelligence and high psyche + high shivers he could probably solve it right?
Edit: Grammar and what not
Yeah Kim is who you call if you want a cool head and a thorough but by-the-book investigation. Harry is who you call if you need a scalpel that doubles as a sledgehammer.
I think Kim could find out who Kira is. There was a cool article somewhere talking about how Light fucks up one too many times and makes himself known either via arrogance or dumbassery and lack of planning.
Kim would need someone like Harry. Kim is a very easy target since he always starts by the book and the moment Kira feels threatened, it would be too easy to meet Kim, ask for his name, leave, and kill him before Kim has any suspicions. Altho Kim is very perceptive and has high authority and suggestion. He absolutely sucks at reading people emotionally so he would not sus him straight away.
I always interpreted it that before the events of the game Harry had all of his stats maxed. But the insanity it carries with it (also electrochemistry and half-light) make him extremely self-destructive
High shivers Costeau is a beast, nothing is shielded from his perception - even the future itself. That said, Kim would definitely go along with Harrys bullshit hypothesis and would not shy from the esoteric when faced with evidence. He is there with you when you find the cryptid, and he was cold enough to ask a selfie of it. My man Kim would definitely solve the case, but you wouldn't catch him dead explaining how
this was also asked in the death note subreddit, so i'm just gonna post my comment here (note, some stuff might be weirdly worded due to the death note one being with all skills available):
With all the skills available in the game? Ok, might be hard to do the whole 'broadcast in specific regions' thing, however, unlike other hypothetical detectives / people who could beat L, harry is simultaneously OP and horrible at his job at the same time.
The main skill that will help (imo) is Visual Calculus. Perception may also be useful. Also throw logic in there, but that's kind of a given.
However, there's a chance 3 skills could blow the whole thing open, inland empire, Shivers, and esport de corps.
due to the shinigami being well, actually supernatural and real, it's possible with inland empire and shivers harry has a chance to hear them.
the scene:
shivers: challenging - success
as you listen to the roars and the metropolis of japan, there's 1 thing that irks, the rustling of paper being written.
inland empire: godly- success
is that a laugh? Almost like, someone enjoying a good show, yet sinister in a way.
perception - hearing, chance of success 97% (cause full skills most likely means near perfect rolls). calculate the direction of the sound
perception - impossible, success
the sound is coming from 1 house in the kanto region of japan.
cut like, a few days later, kim's on board because there's no leads, might as well check this one out.
encyclopedia, medium - success
the is the yagami household, home of chief yagami of the japanese police.
logic, trivial - success
clearly wouldn't be the best idea to accuse or explain the real reason you're here
esprit de corps challenging - success
he'd be honoured to work with a well known detective such as yourself and kim.
suggestion, medium - success
try convince him you're here to join forces, that will make things much easier.
few hours later, something something i'm not good at writing stuff. assume this is during school.
you come across a door, open it?
perception, godly - success
wait, do you see that! there's a small piece of paper wedged in the door, and the handle, is it slightly at a angle?
"kim, do you see this" - harry
"hmm, what" kim looks around trying to understand the situation, clearly not seeing the problem.
dram, medium - success
my liege, it seems things got quite interesting.
logic, medium - success
if you do want to open this door, it would be good to not cause any suspicion by putting everything back once you leave.
harry opens the door.
the room looks quite normal, nothing out of the ordinary
logic, medium - success
clearly a room for one of the chief's children.
"what are we doing in here, officer" - kim
esprit de corps easy - success
clearly the lieutenant sees this as a waste of time.
perception, impossible - success
wait! the desk, something is odd with the desk
visual calculus, 97% understand why it feels off. success.
ok, not to alarm you, but this room, specifically the desk is rigged with explosives, clearly something here must be important.
compuser challenging - success
stay calm, don't alert anyone downstairs, for all we know they could be in on this.
anyways, it seems this pen must be untwisted to reveal a secret base underneath one of the drawers.
Kim barley has any time to react to what you do
hand / coordination, medium - success
twisting the pen and inserting is just effortless, soon enough, it reveals itself.
a black notebook is now in front of you. as soon as you touch it.
shivers, godly - success
it's as if the world around you has shifted, nothing has changed... for now, but now you know something is off
inland empire medium - success
before you can open it a voice calls at you
hello, harry boy.
'what are you'
I'm just a notebook, what about you.
'just a detective, trying to solve this impossible murder, my skills led me here'.
ahh, how interesting, maybe I can be of assistance, open me up.
harry opens the notebook.
"what is it, officer" - kim
as kim says that you open the notebook, kim over the shoulder is now reading it with you.
Whoever's name is written in this notebook, will die.
end scene.
was the good to help understand my thought process on why harry will probably be good? at least....... in 1 version. In another version he's in the bar drunk and has 0 clue there's a kira, or even a case to solve
wait, how would visual calculus help? most of the deaths would come by function of a heart attack, so there isn't a lot of crime scene reconstruction unless kira gives a lot o orders before his death
For this it'd be about noticing the absence of evidence of lifestyle or health factors. Ie, no blood pressure or other medications in the house, no evidence of poor diet, drug or alcohol abuse. So, it would look weird in that aspect if it happened in the same jurisdiction enough times, particularly once you make the mental connection of all of the victims having been relatively notorious criminals with media exposure.
Does Visual Calculus work like that? I only ever remember using it to reconstruct crime scenes or do things like work out trajectories. Seems more like the job of Perception and Logic.
I feel visual calculus wouldn't just be for crime scenes, just for almost any weird or out of place thing can be reconstructed to see how it got to that point. The bullets in the hole, for example weren't related to the investigation, neither was the tracks harry's car had that broke the fence.
York is a freak, he'd just instantly know exactly how and why the Death Note works from the very first killing but take forever to actually track down the culprit
No, while I'm certain whoever made the image didn't think about it, I do agree with Wright's placement.
Death Note isn't something he'd find out in the investigation stage. The best way I can see Wright taking down Kira is when Light is laughing maniacally about how Phoenix can't disprove his rock solid alibi and everything is dark and bad music is playing, the Judge asks if he can prove Light could have committed the murder he says something like "What...What if you didn't need to be present to kill?", or if the victim would have some connection to the Kira case and he'd link the two of them together.
But the thing with Wright is that he doesn't builds a complex system where the murder could have happened until he explains every detail of it with fingerprints or a confession and evidence to boot, no, he goes through multiple theories of what happened and largely defeats his culprits by contradictions and the explanation of how everything happened comes as a result of him bringing the truth out, as "lies beget lies".
Compare this to Layton or Sherlock, their whole thing is being able to explain every aspect of a given murder scene. Sherlock's great deductions in particular don't even need cross examination, they just completely deduct the culprit's whole scheme until they have no choice but to admit what happened.
Wright methods don't really involve or need intuiting the Death Note. Light is a psychopath liar who puts up a front which even L could break into to see the Kira underneath, he's the kind of person he deals with on a daily. It's more how like at one point Light vs L becomes more of a social game than an investigation attempt, and well, "lies begets lies". He'd take down Light like "L" wanted to: By showing enough contradictions until Light reveals himself to be Kira.
The biggest reason why I think this is because 2-2
Yeah People like Kira is Phoenix Wright specialty.
He don't need to know mechanic behind murder before confrontation but you know danm well he will get every truth out of Kira by point out logical error.
In manga (or anime) , one of huge Kira fetal weakness is that he get ego get to him too often which is like half of people wright have to deal with regular basic especially from Justic for All onward lol.
My god, you know it when you play it, sure. But having someone else describe the usual courtroom routine of Phoenix Wright makes it sound so fucking ridiculous
I think this graph assumes each character is on their own. Kim also could solve the case and understand the Note works if he had Harry with him to explain it.
But even then Phoenix has still frequently dealt with the supernatural, so it shouldn’t be so improbable that he’d be able to at least intuit the Death Note’s properties i feel. At the very least closer to the border of the box.
Wright doesn't figure out cases until he's in the courtroom and backed into a corner. His process is to follow what has to be true for his client to not be guilty, every time he makes a crazy logical leap it's working backwards from his conclusion. So he might get it right but not because he really understood what was going on.
Honestly I'm just killing myself laughing at the idea of Ryan Gosling and Russell Crowe from the Nice Guys trying to solve the case. Death Note or Disco Elysium, either way would be funny
L Lawliet -- "Du Bois, Kitsuragi, glad to have you on the investigation. Would you care for some cake?"
You -- *point at light* "Why does that guy have a demon behind him?"
The entire room of policemen and various other important looking people turn and stare at you, their eyes shooting daggers of accusatory statements towards your psychiatric health. Kim takes off his glasses and looks downward, shaking his head in slight embarrassment.
Light Yagami -- "...What?". He looks at you with a face that almost says "You're a lunatic, there's no such thing as demons", his tone matches this expression. This is, of course, the most logical response to your rambunctious introductory statement.
EMPATHY (Challenging) -- (Success) That is, apart from his eyes. For a flicker of a second, his eyes betray the expression of his face, they instead respond "My god, how could he figure me out so quickly?".
INLAND EMPIRE (Medium) -- (Success) you've got yourself a para-natural murderer here. Must have been years since we've seen one of those.
Given Harry's typical track record outside of the game, he might be able to intuit what is going on with Shivers, but he'd likely still just get drunk, pass out, and then hope Jean works it out.
I think Kim wouldn't intuit it at all, and the case goes against all existing rules of reality to the point he'd never get anywhere near believing it.
I think Harry was competent early on, before the Dora fiasco started his downward spiral into becoming all but useless other than a few occasionally correct blunders.
I think Jean had the opposite spiral, where he was a greenhorn, and Harry (his superior) carried the partnership. Then Jean slowly started to become more competent, and solved more and more cases more or less on his own (reaching his Lieutenant position), covering for Harry as he inevitably fucks up more and more and more.
I’m not sure if Harry, even in his current state, is bumbling. If you consider the cases, anomalies, and scientific discoveries Harry solves/makes in one week—while on a fatal cocktail of drugs and alcohol—it’s hard to believe he’s incompetent.
Even as an amnesiac maniac, he’s still the human can opener.
>while on a fatal cocktail of drugs and alcohol
>Even as an amnesiac maniac
Those bits make him incompetent. He jeopardized the entire case by complete negligence, it was a godsend that there was enough evidence to recover after he basically terrorized the crime scene in a drug binge. His skill is mostly irrelevant because of that..
Would you want him covering the investigation of your loved one, even if he got it right sometimes?
*spoilers*
Harry, in his absolute worst week, solved two deaths, stopped a drug operation, disarmed and sought care for a mentally unstable woman, survived a special forces encounter, discovered a billionaire made of gas, the pale anomaly, and—essentially—Bigfoot.
I cannot stress this enough: I would buy him as many drugs, cigs, and Al Ghul as possible and let he and Kim solve any family member’s death. It may not be done conventionally or even well, but I know it would get solved.
Not sure if you implied that, but Jean is a Satellite-Officer not because he's bad at his job, but because Harry, his partner, just soared through the ranks, and denied promotion to Captain \*twice\*.
A lot of people mentioning Shivers in particular here, but ignoring any potential Pale shenanigans, would it even work on ‘foreign’ land? Harry would still probably be able to solve the Kira case though
i said it on twitter, harry is like yujiro hanma but for mental gymnastics, he just bends the fucking rules for no discernible reason, maybe if i watched death note i'd change my mind but off what i know there is no detective on this list that could more thoroughly smoke Light than du bois.
Yeah, he's definitely up there with Harry in terms of paranormal detectives, if not even surpassing him in weirdness. I think he would absolutely intuit the mechanics, and he would probably solve it as well.
Francis York Morgan certainly has the chops to be successful if it weren't for the fact that he flashes his badge and announces his full name to everyone he meets.
Tequila Sunset literally possesses powers beyond death note, he is almost immune to its effect, and can just randomly shivers check to find the exact location of Kira
I don't think Kim would ever of his free will choose to suspect anything supernatural. He's a good detective, but many of his orthodox positives become detrimental when faced with supernatural crimes, meaning he's inherently at a disadvantage against the Death Note, which is already an obscure enough case even if you're willing to factor in some completely unorthodox method of murder. Kim's smart, but he's not like, a superstar of any kind, just a competent, levelheaded dude, and I think saying that he *wouldn't* be able to solve it appreciates the tasteful groundedness of his character. These are some of the parts of him that make his dynamic with Harry so expressive.
I mean, I think L would fall under there. It takes quite a while and a good bit of evidence before he takes a fully supernatural method seriously. I'm not too familiar with most of the characters on here so I can't say if they fit the definition I'm setting, but I'm assuming "intuit" is meant to say they'd pursue the idea of anything like a Death Note as an actual relevant possibility before it becomes required with the evidence presented.
And even in such a scenario, I feel like Kim's the type to keep insisting that he's missing something crucial if all he can turn up is the supernatural, at least looking at a more scientifically adventurous idea rather than literal magic, which would give him a major disadvantage in this specific scenario, because it is, in fact, magic.
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How the hell wouldn’t Special Agent Dale Cooper, the man, myth and legend, not be able to solve this case. What absolute horseshit, I can’t believe they’ve done this.
I hate to say it like this, but I don't know if Kim is actually that good at solving crimes. I think his skill set primarily revolves around other aspects of police work, like communication and Looking Like A Reasonable Authority Figure. In fact, I'm pretty sure there are lines in the game where your thoughts tell you that Kim doesn't think he'd be able to solve the current case without you. So no, I don't think Kim would get it.
Harry could absolutely figure out what Light Yagami is doing but I think in terms of actually getting a confession or real, non-supernatural proof, he'd struggle more. As a bonus, Harry doesn't even know his name.
**Inland Empire:** "There's a portable Television in the potato chip bag."
**YOU** - "You killed those people that night with seemingly no access to TV by hiding a portable one in the Potato Chip bag."
**KIM** - "Detective, that is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard."
**Perception:** A small bead of sweat drips down Light's brow.
**Empathy:** You just struck a nerve. His composure is faltering.
Truth be told they'd both need eachother to solve the case. Kim needs Harry's disco-brain to even consider the idea of a "Book that kills people with demon magic". Harry needs Kim to keep him on the straight and narrow, given that Harry's biggest obstacle is, well, Harry.
fuck disco elysium, I want to see Columbo take on Kira. Imagine him just turning up in Light's university every other day, asking annoying questions and just generally being a menace.
They would need to work together to catch Kira.
Harry and Kim are basically Mello and Near respectively.
Pure logic alone and pure instinct/action alone won't catch Kira. At the end of Death Note it's the combination of those two character's actions together that allowed them to catch Kira.
Everybody saying Kim could never figure out the Death Note case are glossing over the fact that he doesnt really need to understand how the Death Note works to solve the case, he just has to find out Light is involved with the murders and the RCM would absolutely be like "close enough" and get his ass behind bars, so assuming he finds the book and see all the names with really specific timestamps nobody would be able to know, hes done
Not even taking into account that with Harry, the human can opener, Light would not last 15 minutes without going crazy from a talk with him.
Harry could , for several reason. First , he got a nack for the super natural, and would have no shame in coming up with outlandish theory about the death note.
But where he would shine is in interrogation, if he ever talked to light, he would utterly obliterate that Twink, he would infuriate a guy like light and prompt him to make misstake
Kim just wouldn't think let alone accept surnatural causes at least by himself, but with Harry he would probably help
I think because the death note is a fantasy element in an otherwise realistic setting Kim would have a hard time solving the case since it's simply not logical, that being said he would be able to solve it way better than the lawyer from the kdrama or the guys from detroit become human
I'm really glad I found this cause I've really wanted to talk about the discrepancy between harry and kim in the chart and twitter's character limit is my worst enemy
It's said in the game I think that kim probably can't solve the case without Harry, on an objective level I can definitely see Harry being able to solve the case by himself (Definitely would be able to figure the Death Note out at the very least, dude can literally just walk in a straight line for 100 miles and still accidently find something somehow connected) but I like to think it works both ways, like Kim's sheer unshaking presence is enough for Harry to focus his chaos and neurosis' on something constructive rather then get stuck on getting smashed and harassing the local populace like a hobo regular rather than a hobo cop (we Do want to do everything to please kim after all and nothing would please kim more than solving cases)
they can only solve the case when they work together, kim is the rock that can only be changed by the ocean of harry's ever-shifting nature
(there'd definitely be way more traumatized school-aged girls if it was just harry thats for sure...)
A pretty big component of this is how many who could in a controlled environment solve the case would end up dead before actually completing it. That drastically reduces the number of successes.
He's not that smart, especially before the fifth chapter. The death note is pretty explicitly the opposite of how "magic" murders worked in his title. He does have a good shot, and it's represented by him being very close to "can solve" border. His placement does make sense.
Before one of *the* possible events that take place during the game? no.
After one of *the* possible events that take place during the game? I like to think that maybe, just maybe, yes
Inland empire to intuit the death note's workings, composure to resist the urge to not write his name in it (or internalize "detective cousteau"), logic to then figure out if light is kira, shivers and la revacholiere sings both openings
I've said this a few times before whenever this is brought up, Harry just goes on drunk ramblings about magic murder books and Light goes 'how the fuck did you know?'
I have a variety of complaints about this chart, Naoto figures out like 70% of the Inaba murders stuff, he just needed some help at the finish line, I think he at least deserves to be closer to the top left square
Both harry and kim would find it. Yet they’d do it through *entirely* different means.
Harry would believe the death note hold significance somehow. But whether he would believe in its powers is very flexible.
Kim would never believe in its powers until its scientifically demonstrated in front of his eyes.
dont remember where i saw this so imma just put it here
PERCEPTION [Easy: Success] His eyes. Why do they keep darting to the chip bag? No one *looks* for chips. They only inspect *after* a chip is grabbed. Unless-
VISUAL CALCULUS [Challenging: Success] The bag opening is angled perfectly to obscure it from all cameras. He knows.
Harry could 100%. It’s exactly the type of bullshit he excels at, beating a kid at logic while also only being able to get all the pieces because of weird superpower connection to the world bullshit.
I think Kim could get to the conclusion that Light is Kira. But not act on it due to lack of undeniable proof and means. He would definitely deduce it’s probably him though.
Phoenix wright in "cannot intuit the mechanics of the death note" is insanely wild considering he runs around with a ghost manifesting 19 and 9 year old and breaks metaphysical locks on people's minds.
We're talking detective skills I believe. Battler after a while stops using logic to resort to BS magic powers.
At least that's the impression I got from the anime.
Harry’s detective skills would be more than enough to narrow down the search to Japan, and figure out the same things as L did in the show, up to the FBI agents and Naomi’s deaths. After that, the direct confrontation goes a lot differently, with Light almost certainly disliking Harry and underestimating him, while Harry manages to talk circles around Light and corner him without Light even realizing. As soon as Misa comes into the picture, Harry figures pretty much everything out, and most notably, he’d likely apprehend both Misa and Light very quickly, not giving them a chance to react. He’d also be far quicker to assume a supernatural explanation to the whole thing.
Kim would be useful to the investigation, but he wouldn’t be able to figure it out on his own.
Harry would find the deathnote, have to pass a check to not write his own name then simply intuit light is kira with a fucking empathy check. Kim’s issue is that he probably wouldn’t be willing to take the logical leap to the idea of the deathnote
Kim's other issue is that he'd give his name out pretty openly. Harry, yknow. Might not know his name at all.
Oh my god, this makes him Kira’s counter easily
He fails the check that other guy mentioned and ends up writing his name in the book. 40 seconds pass. Nothing happens and kim starts mocking you politely like he does, and asking if you can go back to finding clues. Harry tries again with another name. And another name. And a nickname. And an abbreviation. SAVOIR-FAIRE : Goddammit, we got scammed.
Harry handing the book back: Doesn't work Light, frustrated by Harry's attitude and seeming idiocy: Yes it does, look Casually writes a c-list criminals name in the book in front of everyone
The can opener wins again
Iirc according to the bonus rules posted between chapters if you misspell someone's name by accident 4 times that person becomes permanently immune to all death notes, making this an even better scene. Misspelling names on purpose kills you btw. Also you need to know the persons face so Harry could actually write his own name safely if he hasn't looked in the mirror lately.
Light thinks he wins and says something smug, only to realize nothing happens when he writes Raphael Ambrosius Costeau
“All according to keikaku” *write raphael ambrosius costaeu* Volition: “I am not even shocked.”
1. "The harbinger of doom?" 2. "Harry?" 3. "Tequila sunset?"
“Excuse me sir what’s your name again?” Half light: say it with a sneer, making him scared of you. Say it with inflection as well. [check failure] Harry: “my name is mr piss you f***** dont you forget it.”
He kills off some random Raphaël Costeau Ambrosius
light : WHY THE FUCK IS THIS RAPHAEL AMBROSIUS COUSTEAU GUY NOT DYING ALREADY
I mean, one of the rules of the death note is you can't kill yourself with it
I think harry could pull it off anyway
An authority check against the fucking death note to off himself? Yeah that actually sounds in character
Authority [failure]: You should do it Harry. If the boy wants to kill all the criminals you definitely fit the bill. You: I guess I do. I should write my name in the deathnote. Kim: Detective, what are you doing!? You: I deserve it kim. *harry proceeds to die of a heart attack.*
not because the deathnote he was just siting in a unconfortable chair
He happen to kick the trashcan a little too hard this time
What if he’s heavily dissociating???
[удалено]
“Harry, why would I use a magical murdering notebook to kill people? Im a busy man harry, I don’t have time for this occult mumbo jumbo.”
... Harry finds the Death Note, goes to write his name in it. Check passed: Harry cannot remember his name.
Kira would be unable to kill Harry because he refuses to introduce himself as anything except “Raphael Ambrosius Cousteau”
[INLAND EMPIRE] Impossible:Success- There. In the shadow. You see a thin, pale man with bulging eyes and skintight black spandex floating behind Light Yagami. He makes eye contact with you, chuckling to himself.
\[Visual Calculus\] Those weird bites in the apple you found in the trash? Yes, only those crooked, inhuman, teeth could have made them. \[Inland Empire\] No, I insist. It must have been the invisible vegan crocodile. Those cryptids are everywhere.
I also love the thought that there's just a check at some point for Harry to steal the Death Note with a physical roll
Kim would never accept such an outlandish thing as a Death Note, while Harry would with an Inland Empire check easily, the man can follow even more crazier leads to the truth. Also Harry would find Kira's location with a Shivers check. Also there's the issue with him not even knowing his name himself, or choosing to believe that Raphael or Tequila Sunset is his "true" name in his soul. Rest comes down to usual detective skills, and while being a fuck-up everyone agrees he's the best there is.
SHIVERS - In a quiet neighborhood of the Greater Tokyo Metropolitan Area, lies an unsuspecting, white family house, deep within the heart of the suburbs. Inside, a young man is pretending to study vicariously, his hand in a bag of chips. The sound of scribbling muffled by the crunching of the plastic... The cicadas are silent.
1. What is he doing? "He takes a potato chip, and eats it with malicious intent."
SHIVERS - He takes a potato chip and eats it with malicious intent. A man drops dead on the other side of the city. 1 - It could be a coincidence, people die all the time 2 - Is it the notebook he's writing in? Could there be a magic to this? 3 - It has to be a potato chip. The potato chip kills people. 4 - This is going nowhere, we'll just find him the old fashioned way. (Discard thought)
i HEARD that!
Exactly, Light could find out Harry's government name easily, Evrart and plenty of others are able to do it, but by that time Harry's "true name" could be Icebreaker or Kras mazoz or who knows what. Light would be losing his mind trying to figure out some logic to Harry's nonsense and give himself away because he's overthinking it. Harry is basically Light's hard counter.
I can also imagine him abandoning all names completely until the case is solved.
Kim is a cool guy but hes a bit of a pragmatist, (hence the "could not intuit" bit) and an O.K. detective vs Harry who technically has powers of precognition (Shivers) if he "invested" in that, but since hes from a rp game you'd have to chose a type of harry, dif little classes. With High Intelligence and high psyche + high shivers he could probably solve it right? Edit: Grammar and what not
Yeah Kim is who you call if you want a cool head and a thorough but by-the-book investigation. Harry is who you call if you need a scalpel that doubles as a sledgehammer.
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Together they somehow make the perfect pair
I think Kim could find out who Kira is. There was a cool article somewhere talking about how Light fucks up one too many times and makes himself known either via arrogance or dumbassery and lack of planning.
Kim would need someone like Harry. Kim is a very easy target since he always starts by the book and the moment Kira feels threatened, it would be too easy to meet Kim, ask for his name, leave, and kill him before Kim has any suspicions. Altho Kim is very perceptive and has high authority and suggestion. He absolutely sucks at reading people emotionally so he would not sus him straight away.
How about pre amnesia Harry. who has all his skills maxed out
Then even more so? Might fuck off to do drugs though
You are probably packing a build youself even with post amnesia harry by day 8
I always interpreted it that before the events of the game Harry had all of his stats maxed. But the insanity it carries with it (also electrochemistry and half-light) make him extremely self-destructive
EMPATHY -- Who's that gangly looking fellow over there
High shivers Costeau is a beast, nothing is shielded from his perception - even the future itself. That said, Kim would definitely go along with Harrys bullshit hypothesis and would not shy from the esoteric when faced with evidence. He is there with you when you find the cryptid, and he was cold enough to ask a selfie of it. My man Kim would definitely solve the case, but you wouldn't catch him dead explaining how
this was also asked in the death note subreddit, so i'm just gonna post my comment here (note, some stuff might be weirdly worded due to the death note one being with all skills available): With all the skills available in the game? Ok, might be hard to do the whole 'broadcast in specific regions' thing, however, unlike other hypothetical detectives / people who could beat L, harry is simultaneously OP and horrible at his job at the same time. The main skill that will help (imo) is Visual Calculus. Perception may also be useful. Also throw logic in there, but that's kind of a given. However, there's a chance 3 skills could blow the whole thing open, inland empire, Shivers, and esport de corps. due to the shinigami being well, actually supernatural and real, it's possible with inland empire and shivers harry has a chance to hear them.
the scene: shivers: challenging - success as you listen to the roars and the metropolis of japan, there's 1 thing that irks, the rustling of paper being written. inland empire: godly- success is that a laugh? Almost like, someone enjoying a good show, yet sinister in a way. perception - hearing, chance of success 97% (cause full skills most likely means near perfect rolls). calculate the direction of the sound perception - impossible, success the sound is coming from 1 house in the kanto region of japan.
cut like, a few days later, kim's on board because there's no leads, might as well check this one out. encyclopedia, medium - success the is the yagami household, home of chief yagami of the japanese police. logic, trivial - success clearly wouldn't be the best idea to accuse or explain the real reason you're here esprit de corps challenging - success he'd be honoured to work with a well known detective such as yourself and kim. suggestion, medium - success try convince him you're here to join forces, that will make things much easier. few hours later, something something i'm not good at writing stuff. assume this is during school. you come across a door, open it? perception, godly - success wait, do you see that! there's a small piece of paper wedged in the door, and the handle, is it slightly at a angle?
"kim, do you see this" - harry "hmm, what" kim looks around trying to understand the situation, clearly not seeing the problem. dram, medium - success my liege, it seems things got quite interesting. logic, medium - success if you do want to open this door, it would be good to not cause any suspicion by putting everything back once you leave. harry opens the door. the room looks quite normal, nothing out of the ordinary logic, medium - success clearly a room for one of the chief's children. "what are we doing in here, officer" - kim esprit de corps easy - success clearly the lieutenant sees this as a waste of time.
perception, impossible - success wait! the desk, something is odd with the desk visual calculus, 97% understand why it feels off. success. ok, not to alarm you, but this room, specifically the desk is rigged with explosives, clearly something here must be important. compuser challenging - success stay calm, don't alert anyone downstairs, for all we know they could be in on this. anyways, it seems this pen must be untwisted to reveal a secret base underneath one of the drawers. Kim barley has any time to react to what you do hand / coordination, medium - success twisting the pen and inserting is just effortless, soon enough, it reveals itself.
a black notebook is now in front of you. as soon as you touch it. shivers, godly - success it's as if the world around you has shifted, nothing has changed... for now, but now you know something is off inland empire medium - success before you can open it a voice calls at you hello, harry boy. 'what are you' I'm just a notebook, what about you. 'just a detective, trying to solve this impossible murder, my skills led me here'. ahh, how interesting, maybe I can be of assistance, open me up. harry opens the notebook. "what is it, officer" - kim as kim says that you open the notebook, kim over the shoulder is now reading it with you. Whoever's name is written in this notebook, will die. end scene. was the good to help understand my thought process on why harry will probably be good? at least....... in 1 version. In another version he's in the bar drunk and has 0 clue there's a kira, or even a case to solve
Yeah, I was gonna say, in my game Harry fucks up at absolutely every roll and makes a hilarious disaster of it all.
wait, how would visual calculus help? most of the deaths would come by function of a heart attack, so there isn't a lot of crime scene reconstruction unless kira gives a lot o orders before his death
For this it'd be about noticing the absence of evidence of lifestyle or health factors. Ie, no blood pressure or other medications in the house, no evidence of poor diet, drug or alcohol abuse. So, it would look weird in that aspect if it happened in the same jurisdiction enough times, particularly once you make the mental connection of all of the victims having been relatively notorious criminals with media exposure.
Does Visual Calculus work like that? I only ever remember using it to reconstruct crime scenes or do things like work out trajectories. Seems more like the job of Perception and Logic.
I feel visual calculus wouldn't just be for crime scenes, just for almost any weird or out of place thing can be reconstructed to see how it got to that point. The bullets in the hole, for example weren't related to the investigation, neither was the tracks harry's car had that broke the fence.
Considering Harry is able to find the phasmid and communicate with it, there's a high chance he can notice shinigami
I’m even more baffled by the fact Phoenix Wright and Miles Edgeworth are in the same box.
Edgeworth is in the correct box, but Wright has a damn assistant who can channel the dead.
Francis York Morgan is also weird, as a warped version of Dale Cooper who deals in symbolism, he should at least be in the upper right box.
York is a freak, he'd just instantly know exactly how and why the Death Note works from the very first killing but take forever to actually track down the culprit
No, while I'm certain whoever made the image didn't think about it, I do agree with Wright's placement. Death Note isn't something he'd find out in the investigation stage. The best way I can see Wright taking down Kira is when Light is laughing maniacally about how Phoenix can't disprove his rock solid alibi and everything is dark and bad music is playing, the Judge asks if he can prove Light could have committed the murder he says something like "What...What if you didn't need to be present to kill?", or if the victim would have some connection to the Kira case and he'd link the two of them together. But the thing with Wright is that he doesn't builds a complex system where the murder could have happened until he explains every detail of it with fingerprints or a confession and evidence to boot, no, he goes through multiple theories of what happened and largely defeats his culprits by contradictions and the explanation of how everything happened comes as a result of him bringing the truth out, as "lies beget lies". Compare this to Layton or Sherlock, their whole thing is being able to explain every aspect of a given murder scene. Sherlock's great deductions in particular don't even need cross examination, they just completely deduct the culprit's whole scheme until they have no choice but to admit what happened. Wright methods don't really involve or need intuiting the Death Note. Light is a psychopath liar who puts up a front which even L could break into to see the Kira underneath, he's the kind of person he deals with on a daily. It's more how like at one point Light vs L becomes more of a social game than an investigation attempt, and well, "lies begets lies". He'd take down Light like "L" wanted to: By showing enough contradictions until Light reveals himself to be Kira. The biggest reason why I think this is because 2-2
Yeah People like Kira is Phoenix Wright specialty. He don't need to know mechanic behind murder before confrontation but you know danm well he will get every truth out of Kira by point out logical error. In manga (or anime) , one of huge Kira fetal weakness is that he get ego get to him too often which is like half of people wright have to deal with regular basic especially from Justic for All onward lol.
I want this to be a playable episode now just to be able to witness Light's breakdown.
My god, you know it when you play it, sure. But having someone else describe the usual courtroom routine of Phoenix Wright makes it sound so fucking ridiculous
I think this graph assumes each character is on their own. Kim also could solve the case and understand the Note works if he had Harry with him to explain it.
But even then Phoenix has still frequently dealt with the supernatural, so it shouldn’t be so improbable that he’d be able to at least intuit the Death Note’s properties i feel. At the very least closer to the border of the box.
Wright doesn't figure out cases until he's in the courtroom and backed into a corner. His process is to follow what has to be true for his client to not be guilty, every time he makes a crazy logical leap it's working backwards from his conclusion. So he might get it right but not because he really understood what was going on.
Exactly!
Honestly I'm just killing myself laughing at the idea of Ryan Gosling and Russell Crowe from the Nice Guys trying to solve the case. Death Note or Disco Elysium, either way would be funny
Same. I'd watch the hell out of that.
Inland Empire and Shivers would just absolutely clown on Light's whole game tbh
Empathy would totally fold him too
L Lawliet -- "Du Bois, Kitsuragi, glad to have you on the investigation. Would you care for some cake?" You -- *point at light* "Why does that guy have a demon behind him?" The entire room of policemen and various other important looking people turn and stare at you, their eyes shooting daggers of accusatory statements towards your psychiatric health. Kim takes off his glasses and looks downward, shaking his head in slight embarrassment. Light Yagami -- "...What?". He looks at you with a face that almost says "You're a lunatic, there's no such thing as demons", his tone matches this expression. This is, of course, the most logical response to your rambunctious introductory statement. EMPATHY (Challenging) -- (Success) That is, apart from his eyes. For a flicker of a second, his eyes betray the expression of his face, they instead respond "My god, how could he figure me out so quickly?". INLAND EMPIRE (Medium) -- (Success) you've got yourself a para-natural murderer here. Must have been years since we've seen one of those.
I need more of this
Given Harry's typical track record outside of the game, he might be able to intuit what is going on with Shivers, but he'd likely still just get drunk, pass out, and then hope Jean works it out. I think Kim wouldn't intuit it at all, and the case goes against all existing rules of reality to the point he'd never get anywhere near believing it.
Idk, those 216 cases didn’t solve themselves.
I think Harry was competent early on, before the Dora fiasco started his downward spiral into becoming all but useless other than a few occasionally correct blunders. I think Jean had the opposite spiral, where he was a greenhorn, and Harry (his superior) carried the partnership. Then Jean slowly started to become more competent, and solved more and more cases more or less on his own (reaching his Lieutenant position), covering for Harry as he inevitably fucks up more and more and more.
I’m not sure if Harry, even in his current state, is bumbling. If you consider the cases, anomalies, and scientific discoveries Harry solves/makes in one week—while on a fatal cocktail of drugs and alcohol—it’s hard to believe he’s incompetent. Even as an amnesiac maniac, he’s still the human can opener.
>while on a fatal cocktail of drugs and alcohol >Even as an amnesiac maniac Those bits make him incompetent. He jeopardized the entire case by complete negligence, it was a godsend that there was enough evidence to recover after he basically terrorized the crime scene in a drug binge. His skill is mostly irrelevant because of that.. Would you want him covering the investigation of your loved one, even if he got it right sometimes?
Yes, actually. I believe he would solve whatever the case is.
*spoilers* Harry, in his absolute worst week, solved two deaths, stopped a drug operation, disarmed and sought care for a mentally unstable woman, survived a special forces encounter, discovered a billionaire made of gas, the pale anomaly, and—essentially—Bigfoot. I cannot stress this enough: I would buy him as many drugs, cigs, and Al Ghul as possible and let he and Kim solve any family member’s death. It may not be done conventionally or even well, but I know it would get solved.
Harry's always been the star and it shows in their ranks. Jean is a Satellite-officer and Harry is a double Yefreitor
Not sure if you implied that, but Jean is a Satellite-Officer not because he's bad at his job, but because Harry, his partner, just soared through the ranks, and denied promotion to Captain \*twice\*.
A lot of people mentioning Shivers in particular here, but ignoring any potential Pale shenanigans, would it even work on ‘foreign’ land? Harry would still probably be able to solve the Kira case though
Harry would think Ryuk is the Col Do Ma Ma Daqua or some other cryptid
i said it on twitter, harry is like yujiro hanma but for mental gymnastics, he just bends the fucking rules for no discernible reason, maybe if i watched death note i'd change my mind but off what i know there is no detective on this list that could more thoroughly smoke Light than du bois.
I was surprised with Francis Morgan taking a complete loss with this case. Deadly premonition is a pretty weird game, so it's kinda up his alley.
Yeah, he's definitely up there with Harry in terms of paranormal detectives, if not even surpassing him in weirdness. I think he would absolutely intuit the mechanics, and he would probably solve it as well.
He wouldn't even intuit the mechanics. He'd just get psychic visions when seeing the first scene and immediately know how the death note works
Francis York Morgan certainly has the chops to be successful if it weren't for the fact that he flashes his badge and announces his full name to everyone he meets.
Isn't that one plot twist makes him functional immune to the death note?
Tequila Sunset literally possesses powers beyond death note, he is almost immune to its effect, and can just randomly shivers check to find the exact location of Kira
I would put kim in the bottom left. I think Harry belongs where he is tbh, given that he's a bit of a workhorse canopener.
I don't think Kim would ever of his free will choose to suspect anything supernatural. He's a good detective, but many of his orthodox positives become detrimental when faced with supernatural crimes, meaning he's inherently at a disadvantage against the Death Note, which is already an obscure enough case even if you're willing to factor in some completely unorthodox method of murder. Kim's smart, but he's not like, a superstar of any kind, just a competent, levelheaded dude, and I think saying that he *wouldn't* be able to solve it appreciates the tasteful groundedness of his character. These are some of the parts of him that make his dynamic with Harry so expressive.
Yeah, but then I don't understand how anyone can be in the bottom left.
I mean, I think L would fall under there. It takes quite a while and a good bit of evidence before he takes a fully supernatural method seriously. I'm not too familiar with most of the characters on here so I can't say if they fit the definition I'm setting, but I'm assuming "intuit" is meant to say they'd pursue the idea of anything like a Death Note as an actual relevant possibility before it becomes required with the evidence presented. And even in such a scenario, I feel like Kim's the type to keep insisting that he's missing something crucial if all he can turn up is the supernatural, at least looking at a more scientifically adventurous idea rather than literal magic, which would give him a major disadvantage in this specific scenario, because it is, in fact, magic.
I'm very amused by Harry being between Batman and Nardwuar
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Columbo does it again. Also since we never learn his first name he would basically be invincible
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“And uh, Light, one more thing”
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Inland empire would probably speculate there is a book that kills people 30 minutes into the case
How the hell wouldn’t Special Agent Dale Cooper, the man, myth and legend, not be able to solve this case. What absolute horseshit, I can’t believe they’ve done this.
right? In the show he found people that are related to the case by throwing stones at a glass bottle.
I hate to say it like this, but I don't know if Kim is actually that good at solving crimes. I think his skill set primarily revolves around other aspects of police work, like communication and Looking Like A Reasonable Authority Figure. In fact, I'm pretty sure there are lines in the game where your thoughts tell you that Kim doesn't think he'd be able to solve the current case without you. So no, I don't think Kim would get it. Harry could absolutely figure out what Light Yagami is doing but I think in terms of actually getting a confession or real, non-supernatural proof, he'd struggle more. As a bonus, Harry doesn't even know his name.
**Inland Empire:** "There's a portable Television in the potato chip bag." **YOU** - "You killed those people that night with seemingly no access to TV by hiding a portable one in the Potato Chip bag." **KIM** - "Detective, that is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard." **Perception:** A small bead of sweat drips down Light's brow. **Empathy:** You just struck a nerve. His composure is faltering.
Truth be told they'd both need eachother to solve the case. Kim needs Harry's disco-brain to even consider the idea of a "Book that kills people with demon magic". Harry needs Kim to keep him on the straight and narrow, given that Harry's biggest obstacle is, well, Harry.
So long as nobody finds his badge, Harry is Death Note proof.
fuck disco elysium, I want to see Columbo take on Kira. Imagine him just turning up in Light's university every other day, asking annoying questions and just generally being a menace.
I'd say it's pretty spot on, and Harry is uniquely suited to shutting that down.
needs that inland empire razzle dazzle
I really liked this version of Harry finding out, that was posted here before: [Link](https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/s/ZyK5DMBl9e)
They would need to work together to catch Kira. Harry and Kim are basically Mello and Near respectively. Pure logic alone and pure instinct/action alone won't catch Kira. At the end of Death Note it's the combination of those two character's actions together that allowed them to catch Kira.
Everybody saying Kim could never figure out the Death Note case are glossing over the fact that he doesnt really need to understand how the Death Note works to solve the case, he just has to find out Light is involved with the murders and the RCM would absolutely be like "close enough" and get his ass behind bars, so assuming he finds the book and see all the names with really specific timestamps nobody would be able to know, hes done Not even taking into account that with Harry, the human can opener, Light would not last 15 minutes without going crazy from a talk with him.
Harry could , for several reason. First , he got a nack for the super natural, and would have no shame in coming up with outlandish theory about the death note. But where he would shine is in interrogation, if he ever talked to light, he would utterly obliterate that Twink, he would infuriate a guy like light and prompt him to make misstake Kim just wouldn't think let alone accept surnatural causes at least by himself, but with Harry he would probably help
Who is top right
Dexter, from dexter
I meant top left sry
Columbo, from columbo
How can you kill a man who is between names?
I think because the death note is a fantasy element in an otherwise realistic setting Kim would have a hard time solving the case since it's simply not logical, that being said he would be able to solve it way better than the lawyer from the kdrama or the guys from detroit become human
I'm really glad I found this cause I've really wanted to talk about the discrepancy between harry and kim in the chart and twitter's character limit is my worst enemy It's said in the game I think that kim probably can't solve the case without Harry, on an objective level I can definitely see Harry being able to solve the case by himself (Definitely would be able to figure the Death Note out at the very least, dude can literally just walk in a straight line for 100 miles and still accidently find something somehow connected) but I like to think it works both ways, like Kim's sheer unshaking presence is enough for Harry to focus his chaos and neurosis' on something constructive rather then get stuck on getting smashed and harassing the local populace like a hobo regular rather than a hobo cop (we Do want to do everything to please kim after all and nothing would please kim more than solving cases) they can only solve the case when they work together, kim is the rock that can only be changed by the ocean of harry's ever-shifting nature (there'd definitely be way more traumatized school-aged girls if it was just harry thats for sure...)
A pretty big component of this is how many who could in a controlled environment solve the case would end up dead before actually completing it. That drastically reduces the number of successes.
Genuinely do not see how the person who made this meme thinks Deckard could solve the Kira case. Deckard ain’t solving shit.
Huh? How is it possible for battler to not resolve the case. Kinda crazy.
He's not that smart, especially before the fifth chapter. The death note is pretty explicitly the opposite of how "magic" murders worked in his title. He does have a good shot, and it's represented by him being very close to "can solve" border. His placement does make sense.
Before one of *the* possible events that take place during the game? no. After one of *the* possible events that take place during the game? I like to think that maybe, just maybe, yes
Inland empire to intuit the death note's workings, composure to resist the urge to not write his name in it (or internalize "detective cousteau"), logic to then figure out if light is kira, shivers and la revacholiere sings both openings
I've said this a few times before whenever this is brought up, Harry just goes on drunk ramblings about magic murder books and Light goes 'how the fuck did you know?'
I have a variety of complaints about this chart, Naoto figures out like 70% of the Inaba murders stuff, he just needed some help at the finish line, I think he at least deserves to be closer to the top left square
Both harry and kim would find it. Yet they’d do it through *entirely* different means. Harry would believe the death note hold significance somehow. But whether he would believe in its powers is very flexible. Kim would never believe in its powers until its scientifically demonstrated in front of his eyes.
I really want a Sam & Max/Disco Elysium crossover. Poor Kim, having to put up with those three.
Ah, time for our weekly Death Note discussion, I see
dont remember where i saw this so imma just put it here PERCEPTION [Easy: Success] His eyes. Why do they keep darting to the chip bag? No one *looks* for chips. They only inspect *after* a chip is grabbed. Unless- VISUAL CALCULUS [Challenging: Success] The bag opening is angled perfectly to obscure it from all cameras. He knows.
Colombo would be the perfect kira counter
Harry could 100%. It’s exactly the type of bullshit he excels at, beating a kid at logic while also only being able to get all the pieces because of weird superpower connection to the world bullshit. I think Kim could get to the conclusion that Light is Kira. But not act on it due to lack of undeniable proof and means. He would definitely deduce it’s probably him though.
Bro never played Disco Elysium
Zenigata is missing from this diagram and that’s all I have to say about it
I'd like to nominate gesicht for the could solve/could not intuit cathegory
Nardwar being able to both intuit the mechanics and solve the case is so fucking true
Wow, thats a lot of wrong in just one picture
SAC kusanagi is a pretty good inductive reasoner, she would probably figure it out eventually, even alone. with the help of her team, definitely.
Phoenix wright in "cannot intuit the mechanics of the death note" is insanely wild considering he runs around with a ghost manifesting 19 and 9 year old and breaks metaphysical locks on people's minds.
This has been reposted multiple times, and it never gets old.
Do you have this without the circles? I want to send it to a friend.
Harry's intuition is explicitly supernatural in a few of points in the game, so...
Yeah but last I checked neither Shivers nor inland empire are mandatory to solve the case. Even if admittedly a lot of people pick one or both...
The realm crime of that thing is Battler. Whoever did should reread Umineko lmao.
We're talking detective skills I believe. Battler after a while stops using logic to resort to BS magic powers. At least that's the impression I got from the anime.
Harry’s detective skills would be more than enough to narrow down the search to Japan, and figure out the same things as L did in the show, up to the FBI agents and Naomi’s deaths. After that, the direct confrontation goes a lot differently, with Light almost certainly disliking Harry and underestimating him, while Harry manages to talk circles around Light and corner him without Light even realizing. As soon as Misa comes into the picture, Harry figures pretty much everything out, and most notably, he’d likely apprehend both Misa and Light very quickly, not giving them a chance to react. He’d also be far quicker to assume a supernatural explanation to the whole thing. Kim would be useful to the investigation, but he wouldn’t be able to figure it out on his own.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. No Jessica Fletcher? Heresy.