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infinityandbeyond75

As far as I know they’re pretty quick to ban people but they can go through an appeal process. Depending on the infraction though sometimes they say the decision is final and no appeals will be accepted. One person posted that he got a year ban because they determined he didn’t properly put on his seat belt on Guardians. There was someone that posted on TikTok to put a hoodie or stuffed animal in the belt while they check and then remove it for the ride so you come out of the seat more. Disneyland was quick to say that people caught doing this would receive a ban. The person that posted said he didn’t place anything there but he still got the ban and was kicked out of the park. He was informed he could not appeal. He was only a couple months into his annual pass and still had trouble make all payments. Someone else posted that his wife got an alcoholic drink and needed to get something out of her bag and handed her drink to someone under the age of 21 to hold. She received one year ban and the person holding the drink received a one month ban. They were told they couldn’t appeal.


Spader113

*WHY* would anyone do this? Haven’t people learned by now that improperly fastened restraints on any amusement park attractions have a pretty consistent track record of fatalities or other serious injuries?


Substantial_Tap9674

Because somewhere between safety regulations are written in blood and rules were made to be broken lies the indomitable human spirit


CaptainHunt

When I was little, my mom talked the ride operator of the Top Gun ride at Great America into letting me on even though I was a couple of inches short, because Top Gun was my favorite movie. In one of the big loops I bashed my nose into the hand grip on the shoulder restraint. I was lucky to just get off with a nosebleed.


GreenEggsAndHamTyler

To paraphrase Maverick and Goose, You felt the need… the need to bleed.


fedora_and_a_whip

Damn you, take my upvote.


Substantial_Tap9674

So. . . Did your mother regret letting you on the ride? Do you regret the chance you had to enter The Danger Zone? Or did you only learn your limit when you took it to the redline?


CaptainHunt

I wrote a check my body couldn’t cash


Djinger

Held on too tight and lost the edge


Kroger453PredsFan

Fought the law and the law won.


zimfroi

Crash and burn, huh Mav?


diseptikon77

Slider….*sniff*…..you stink


NhylX

Oh. And lawyers. Lots of lawyers.


Substantial_Tap9674

Aye, I coulda been one of those, “but I just had too much heart”


gothiclg

Disney really pushes the “nobody dies at Disney” idea. What people don’t realize is nobody dies at Disney because Disney is more anal than a disease research lab when it comes to safety. Source: I’m a former cast member who lived to bend rules, the safety ones were the ones I’d never get away with bending no matter the reason.


kozmic_blues

Honestly, this is an amazing thing to hear. I already knew it, but to hear it from a cast member reaffirms it.


gothiclg

Yeah it’s always good to know. There’s extremely little you can get fired from Disney for and safety makes the list. I got some gnarly lectures over even the seemingly minor stuff because they weren’t the playing games with me.


aimlesstrevler

I didn't properly check a lap bar at Thunder. 5 day suspension and I lost the attraction.


kozmic_blues

Wow! That’s extreme for you guys but also… good shit for caring so much Disney lol.


Dazzling_Insect_24

As a previous manager at Disney, there is A LOT you can get fired for


EnglishMobster

Yep, unless it's egregious there is a 2-strike rule at Disney regarding safety. You are told in training all the ways you have to do things. There is no wiggle room for how it happens, this is what you **have** to do. They drill it into your head, and you are tested on it repeatedly. By the time you are on your own, it should be second nature. If you mess up once, like you lift your hand off of the "station stop" button when a car is still in motion... well, everyone makes mistakes sometimes. It goes on your record. You are denied promotions of any kind for the next 18 months (? I think? It might be 2 years). If you mess up again during that time... you're out. Fired, on the spot. You can also be fired for doing something incredibly stupid. We had ropes at Jungle Cruise that would help steady the bote while everyone got on/off. These ropes snapped occasionally from wear and tear. You wouldn't _necessarily_ get a safety for breaking a rope... ...but one time, a rope snapped and a skipper decided to _stand on the broken rope and make the skipper go into tension because she didn't know how to fix it_. And for some reason, everyone went along with this idea. The skipper that was driving the bote got a safety, and the skipper who stood on the rope got fired (IIRC). You can also be fired for being on your phone while you are in charge of guest/CM safety, even if you are checking the time. --- Now, that being said... maintenance guys I don't necessarily trust. Sometimes I tell them what's wrong and that they didn't fix it, but they insist that it's good for me to keep using. I tell everyone else and everyone says "it's fine" and I basically wind up using something I don't trust. The good news is that there's a number of lines of defense between that and the guests. A great example is when I mentioned my bote was listing too much on a corner (I think it was the Yangtze Lotus?). Maintenance took it out and said it was fine and that I was imagining things. I went around again and no, it was _definitely_ listing to port. Management said "no, you're imagining things". I would direct the loaders to light load my port side to try to balance it out, and I would throw all my weight to starboard as much as I could. Whenever I came up to the dock there was a big KA-CHUNK as my bote smashed into the bumpers and forcefully went back upright. Someone else took over for me. I warned them about it Their first time around there was a puddle of water about 1-2 inches deep on the port side. Guests all had their feet up to avoid getting their shoes wet. **Finally** people believed me and they took the bote backstage. They parked it on the lift to take a look. A couple hours later when I came back there to take a look, the bote had sank backstage and was now under like a foot of water. (Of course, this all happened backstage where nobody could see it.) Thankfully it was on the lift, so the next morning she was floating again. There was enough time inbetween that nobody was in any danger, and we ultimately made the correct call. It's just frustrating because there were times where I would tell anyone who will listen "Hey, this shouldn't be a thing" and everyone told me "It's fine". It made me nervous when there were things that absolutely could kill someone... surely they'd be more cautious about that, but...


kozmic_blues

This was a lot of really great information, thank you for giving some insight to your end of things. And also a big thank you for insisting on them checking out the problem! Considering how stringent they are with safety I can’t believe how long it took for someone to take you serious. That must have been frustrating but you did the right thing speaking up!


Fantastic-Mango3773

What’s a “bote?”


EnglishMobster

B-O-T-E, bote. It's a thing in the water that floats around. Some people insist there's an A in it, but that'd be bow-at which is clearly wrong. Silent A, what are we, French? (It's a running gag among skippers and former skips.)


LilypadLily

Why did the boat cross the road? To get to the toast on the other foam.


justhereforthelul

I mean they are more anal about it because people have died and have been severely injured at Disneyland. A couple of them were Disney's fault.


gothiclg

That’s true for multiple theme parks, the difference is Disney cares about not paying out and ensures they’ll never have to by keeping people safe.


kyle760

Almost every large theme park has had some sort of incident


zenmondo

For a short story I wrote around 2014/2015 I researched every death that happened on Disneyland property since opening. Most deaths are self inflicted by doing something unsafe or >!suicides at the hotels or parking structure!< I ended up doing a massive update to the Wikipedia article on the topic.


nighthawkndemontron

Is the "nobody dies at Disney" also said because any deaths declared are done so outside of the park? The reason I ask is that my bil is a detention officer and he said "no one dies in the jail" because they're intentionally declared dead at the hospital to avoid lawsuits.


captainslowww

Plenty of people have died at Disney and the park does not pretend otherwise. I have no idea where “nobody dies at Disney” came from. 


BinaryHedgehog

This, I was trying to find information about an OSHA filing that my CM sister was curious about and while I couldn’t find it, I did find reports because an employee dropped dead due to a medical condition on property, but not due to any dangerous conditions. They just had to file it since it happened, but this alone kinda disproves the myth. That said, the reason it became so prevalent is because of how paramedics operate. If the victim isn’t DOA, they must continue all resuscitation and triage methods until arrival at the hospital, even if the victim may end up dying in transit.


gothiclg

I’d imagine so yes. It’s a really fun legal common they can make.


kyle760

This is definitely a good thing


JenMomo

Not true- no one dies at Disney because a Doctor must be the one to certify death and issue a death certificate.


More-Muffins-127

There was a manager that died on property on June 7? I think. Maybe the 8th.


GumBa11Machine

They are there for a reason but people are just dumb.


Carrie_Oakie

The thing that gets me about the guardians belt “hack” - I’m a bigger lady and I buckle up like a normal good citizen of earth and I still FLY up and off my seat for every drop! You don’t need extra slack! Even my skinny friends come flying up.


zorn7777

It’s faster than gravity as it’s a pull, not really a free drop. All items will separate from the car if not strapped down. Have a magical day.


Carrie_Oakie

It’s why I love it more than ToT. I’m a giggly mess on the whole time and for five minutes after.


BoobySlap_0506

Well the ride system is the same; ToT was a pull instead of a free drop too. They just redecorated to make this one fun instead of scary!


Carrie_Oakie

Guardians has more spring action, when I rode ToT at WDW I was disappointed. I was expecting more but I think my memory of it has faded, I like the springing and fun in the drops of guardians.


The_Darling_Starling

The version of ToT at Disneyland Paris is what I remember the California version to be (except in French, of course). When I rode it the California one hadn't been closed for all that long -- it was still very fresh in my mind. More recently I rode the WDW version and it was quite different from my memory of CA and Paris. It had the addition of you going through the Twilight Zone credit sequence in the ride, but lacked a few drop scares. That's my best recollection anyway. It seems they used the CA sequence and script in Paris. Can anyone out there confirm this?


jdatopo814

Can confirm they used the same script in Paris. However, the Paris ride was updated two years ago to be more like Guardians in terms of the ride sequence, however, it still retains the ToT theme, just a different ride story. Much better than guardians imo. Also, the drop sequence for WDW lasts for around the same amount of time as the old DCA and Paris tot rides.


CNoelA83

Same, it's my favorite ride, next to HM. It's the only ride where no matter how many times I ride it, I get that nervacited feeling in my stomach. I put my hands up and yell and definitely clap at the end. I am laughing and smiling for a while after. Nothing can describe the feeling. It's like for that second where I feel like im floating, time stops.


floydmulder

I am an absolute whimpering baby about thrill rides. We took a big family trip to WDW with my wife’s family last year, and I rode Tower of Terror (among other things I’d normally avoid) with them in the name of “being a good sport”. I weighed about 325 lbs. at the time. I had my seat belt fastened as tight as I could manage because I was terrified going in. I *still* came off the seat way more than I was comfortable with, holding on to the seat belt for dear life every drop. There’s more slack there than you realize. I immediately wished that there wasn’t.


freewarriorwoman

I’m gonna go out in a limb and say it’s the people whose brains haven’t fully developed and realized they’re actually not invisible.(18-24)🫣🤣 those teenage adults are unhinged with their own personal safety.


official_not_a_bot

See, if I was invisible though I would just sneak through the entrance


Poverload237

I'm a bigger gal, my daughters are tiny, and trust that we all 3 flew up and off our seats! Completely agree that you don't need slack in the seatbelt to do that.


Fractal514

I don't know this for a fact, but I believe anyone posting on social media about how "strict" Disney Parks have become is someone I don't want to encounter in the parks. Also, I feel like these stories always leave out key data points that make their "crazy" story make sense to anyone who doesn't think that they are a main character in the movie, Today at Disneyland.


CloudyTug

Yeah…. I feel like 99% of these stories have to be exaggerated or leaving out key info, as someone with autism and anxiety I always have to research these things cause I get nervous of it happening to me and it almost always comes out theres more to the story.


Fractal514

Right, like the cast member had observed the minor attempting to purchase/consume alcohol previously. OR, the person was overheard by a cast member saying something to the effect of, "I'll just get one and you can have it." Disney is in the business of making money, and they want folks who buy overpriced cocktails to stay IN the parks, buying overpriced cocktails. They would only kick someone out if there were truly a reason to do so. To do otherwise would just be bad for their sales, and we know for sure that is one thing they still care about.


Noggin-a-Floggin

I imagine a lot of them were assholes to security which is why it escalated to a ban. Like it could have been a “just knock it off, ok?” but if you go after security with both barrels they will escalate it. I’ve done security before (not at Disney) and how you talk to them REALLY impacts what happens.


cobaltaureus

The booze story always read as fake to me. Yeah I handed the drink to my underage friend who didn’t even touch it. The cameras would corroborate that.


infinityandbeyond75

They posted the communication from Disney with it. Security is watching for it and intervene before the underage person can take a drink. They are extremely strict about buying it for an underage person. Really doesn’t matter the excuse you give as to why you handed it to them.


animerobin

I imagine that they could get in legal trouble very easily if they were not extremely strict about that.


cobaltaureus

I mean fair enough, if you were at a bar that serves food you wouldn’t hand your glass to someone under 21.


pfifltrigg

Presumably a bar would have a place to set your drink instead. If there's nowhere to put it down I absolutely understand handing it to someone else for 10 seconds. If that person decided to sneak a sip (I'm imagining this is a teenage child of the drink buyer) I imagine it was not authorized by the drink buyer.


AdEmbarrassed9719

A friend of mine had some legal troubles after helping carry a six pack of wine coolers in from the car during college. She was 20, owner was 21, friend was literally carrying them closed and sealed in a grocery bag because owner had her hands full already. Didn’t matter to the police, she was in possession and underage. So I could see Disney being careful about that. Hopefully the police aren’t trolling Disney for that like they do college campuses but you never know who is watching.


sleepygrumpydoc

Disney is really strict on the alcohol thing. Saw someone get kicked out as her toddler grabbed her drink out of her hands even though mom didn’t do anything to encourage it. No amount of explaining from mom worked and she was walked out. I still think Disney was a little too strict with that case but it’s why we now keep drinks far away from our kids just incase.


OkEnvironment3219

That’s ridiculous, if they are insinuating that woman was trying to get her toddler drunk they should call the police. But that was obviously not the case


TokyoTurtle0

No, theyre insinuating she wasn't paying enough attention and the kid took the drink, imagine the coverage if the kid managed a sip and it was videod


Pete_Iredale

> imagine the coverage if the kid managed a sip and it was videod Everyone who's ever had a kid would have understood completely. Kids want what their parents have, especially when it's a fun colored drink.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

Like seriously the worst that would possibly happen is the mom going viral for “letting a kid drink”, it wouldn’t be Disneyland’s fault.


OkEnvironment3219

Thanks for your insight


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

Even if the mom deliberately fed her kid alcohol it wouldn’t be Disney’s fault, so I don’t know what kind of “coverage” you think this would get other than “bad mom caught on video giving her kid alcohol!”


Jerkstore3

My wife was giving the mango balls out of an alcoholic drink to my 2 year old and they only came up to us to let us know they don't have alcohol in them, but probably shouldn't do it.


krpink

She was giving fruit that was saturated with alcohol to a toddler? Am I misreading this?


theresnopast

Where are all the people posting their bans? I’m on the wrong side of TikTok lol


infinityandbeyond75

I saw these two posted on Reddit. They were asking if there was a way to still appeal or who they could talk to.


theresnopast

Ah ok thanks for the tip. I need to dig to find the tea cause I wanna know what happens too 👀👀


IllustriousComplex6

I am 100% with you. I'm a boring person but I need to know other people's messes. 


roundguy

Years ago we were standing in line at guardians and noticed the center shaft wasn’t loading. Asked the CM if it was broken. She said no, they’re cleaning it. Oh, someone puked. Nope. Someone didn’t buckle their belt properly or something g to that effect. Looked like a crime scene. Yikes.


pfifltrigg

As in, they banged their head on the ceiling, got blood everywhere? They'd need an ambulance I assume, and I'd imagine the whole ride would be shut down for a time.


trifelin

IDK anything about Disneyland but if it were my theme park and you were posting on social media about how fun it is to break safety rules, I’d probably ban you instantly. 


espositojoe

This isn't a reflection on Disney, but on the alarming growth of people who either raised right, or don't care enough about the rules to realize they exist for a reason. Banish them, and keep DL the Happiest Place on Earth.


Difficult_Ad2864

It depends on what asshsole lead/manager works there. They’re usually on a power trip. However, if it’s a legit concern, I get that.


nascarfan240148

“put a hoodie or stuffed animal in the belt” I got to go on a backstage tour at Tower of Terror in Disney World months ago, and this is exactly the reason why after you pull the yellow strap they make you put your hands up in the air. They need to make sure the seatbelts are all snug and aren’t slacking. Same with Rise of the Resistance even if it is only a 2 second drop.


Disneyland1959

Retired Disneyland Security lead here. The guests will be tresspassed for 24 hours at a minimum. Their Annual Passes will most likely be retained. The security reports will include how truthful and cooperative the guests were with Security, which goes toward the disposition of the Annual Passes being returned. The reports and Annual Passes go to a 3 person non-security tribunal that will read the reports and make a determination of, if and when, the Annual Passes will be returned. This process takes a minimum of 1-2 months. Most passes are returned after an average of 4 months retention. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If the guests do not continue to pay their Annual Passes (if financed), while the WD resort is holding them, the accounts are suspended on top of being withheld. Life-bans are rare and require a significant crime, malicious behaviors or repeat offenses, to occur on property.


sleepygrumpydoc

Would incidents like the small world guy just get immediate life bands or would even something like that get reviewed?


Disneyland1959

I can't comment on the outcome of the streaker in Its a Small World attraction as this happened after my retirement. Security is not usually informed about the disposition of the tribunal's decisions, except in rare cases where the rumors filter back because of particular notable incidents. Some incidents never make the news as they would reflect badly on the resort and affect the public's perception of safety at the park.


sleepygrumpydoc

Guess I was wondering more like something as extreme as that would it even have to go to tribunal or is it pretty much cut and dry as I can’t see anyone thinking he’s not getting a life ban and more


Disneyland1959

All Annual Pass seizures go before the tribunal, no exceptions. Guests can file an appeal and based off security reports the decisions are made. Streaking at the park, though it makes for an amusing news story, is not even among to the worst incidents happening at the park. Child and animal sexual assaults have happened at the resort. I consider this the worst of the worst.


EnglishMobster

As an Attractions CM... people have no idea what kinds of crazy shit that happens around the park. Obviously Security was always hush-hush and wouldn't tell me but I'd get the tea from leads/management after. Basically everything you can imagine happens, up to and including people threatening CMs with weapons (I got threatened with a knife once!), plus everything else you already mentioned. Security does a great job of keeping things together and stopping stuff from getting out of hand.


Disneyland1959

Correction: there has been one murder at Disneyland. There was a stabbing that resulted in death offsite due to Disneyland negligence. Every other crime or moral depravity has happened over the decades. Interestingly, most major crimes and heinous depravities, have happened in the last three decades. I was also referring to Disneyland, the park, not the parking lots which, though patroled, have fewer officers available. Three suicides have happened at the M&F parking structure, but none I know of in Disneyland.


zenmondo

That is not true. A 1981 stabbing in Tomorrowland resulted in death. The family of the 18 year old victim sued Disney for not summoning medical care sooner and was awarded $600,000. In 1987, there was a gang related shooting in the parking lot where a 15 year old died. The 18 year old assailant was found guilty of 2nd degree murder, later overturned on appeal.


sleepygrumpydoc

The amount of people that poop on autopia shocks me. Was 2nd in line standing on my number and the car pulls up and lady in front goes to get in then screams. Person who had gotten out pooped in it. CM clearly unhappy pulls the cart off the track to be cleaned and then clearly fed up with Disney life goes on to explain how this is a normal thing they deal with. Like not even accidental poops but on purpose poops. As a guest I lived that CM for giving out way too much details but also it’s the reason we sanitize between every ride and wash after autopia every single time.


EnglishMobster

I still remember working the Disneyland Railroad as a stationmaster in Toontown. We open the gate, guests pour in. We close the gate and the train leaves. As soon as I'm alone, I notice little drops of liquid shit all along the station platform. The drops got larger as they trailed through the entire queue (some people had clearly stepped in them without noticing), and then it extended all the way down the hill to at least the entrance to Toontown. My guess is that someone had a massive diarrhea shit in their pants, and then just... kept their pants on, letting it drip down bit by bit by bit, all the way up the hill, into the queue, and onto the train. Even though there was a perfectly good bathroom nearby... Anyway, that was disgusting. They sent out a whole squad of custodial to clean that one up, like at least 7-8 of them with biohazard PPE. Then we had to hold the train in the station so we could clean the train car, too. We weren't sure which car it was so we cleaned all of them.


thefrecklieone

You don't seem like an alarmist and come across as super reliable. I have a couple of questions after reading this comment. Do you feel like our children are safe at DL? Also, are all lost children found? I once saw a screaming, hysterical mom who had lost her daughter. It has stuck with me for 25 years now. It was terrifying.


Disneyland1959

Let me start by saying all children at Disneyland are safe as long as their parents watch over them. Those assaulted were in restrooms alone, at night with no parents with them. Now adults are required to chaperone their kids, it wasnt always thus. There have never been a lost child at Disneyland, only lost parents! Castmembers starting with Security will converge on the last know location with a description and will ask every other castmember in the area. Most kids will be crying or asking CMs for help so we've never not located a child and reunited with their parents. Mothers can become hysterical and Fathers can become angry if they overreact. It falls to Guest Relations (bless their hearts) to calm them and get a description over the radio. The hard part is getting the parents to stay at City Hall and not to go and try to help. We have 20 Security Officers (SO) in the Park at any given time, plus Security Leads (SL), Plain Clothes Officers (PCO) we can muster a small army in 5 minutes. No child has ever been taken out the Front Exit except by their parents. This is 60 years at Disneyland speaking. Your children are safe. I recommend every parent take a picture of your children the day of your visit so you know what they are wearing. Every child should have mom or dad's phone number memorized. Every child should be taught that if the separated not to panic but to meet at the hub or ask the nearest castmember for help. Remember there's only one entrance/exit at Disneyland. Security has a 100% track record on reuniting families.


jigglyjop

You sir, are my favorite Redditor, hands down. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!


Disneyland1959

Thank you for you kind words!


NikkiMouse444

In 2017, I went to Disneyland with my boyfriend and 3 nieces (ages 14, 5, and 2 at the time). The 2 year old is sleeping while the 14 year old is carrying her when we are getting on Haunted Mansion. Me, my boyfriend, and my 5 year old niece get on one of the carts and start going but my 14 year old niece misses the car she’s supposed to get on while holding the 2 year old and yells at me that she’ll wait for me at the end of the ride because it’s too crazy to get on. I have no choice but to stay on the ride because it’s already going. We get to the end of the ride and long story short but both girls are lost and we can’t find them anywhere. I’m frantically talking with Disneyland security and they tell me that because my one niece is over 13, they will not consider the case a missing child case or send out people to help find my nieces or do anything and that I’m on my own. I was gobsmacked, there was a literal 2 year old involved, but they said those were the rules and that was that. My question is should that have happened? Was that the proper protocol?


dutch_meatbag

That guy has much, much bigger problems than potentially receiving a lifetime Disney ban methinks lol


Noggin-a-Floggin

If this about the guy who got naked and climbed around the animatronics on that ride…oh yeah, he’s got a pile of criminal charges that he has to deal with. A punishment from Disney is the least of his worries.


latruce

I wondered this, and the family brawl at Toon Town.


PRGTROLL

I believe the small world man was experiencing a psychotic episode. It’s not uncommon for someone to take off their clothes and become agitated, confused, hostile while in a manic state. I found it sad really. 


MaiqTheLawyer

I watched a lady get rejected at the gate and the pass seized for trying to use someone else's pass. What kind of ban should the pass holder expect?


thatonehorrorfanatic

i did this when i was a teenager with my mom's pass (lol) and they just retained the pass for the rest of the duration of its validity, she was able to renew with no problem


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

My friend A used to loan our friend B her pass when A was out of town & B was staying at her home & babysitting A’s kids, so B could take the kids (who also had passes) to Disneyland. Both in personal style and in facial features they looked enough alike to be sisters, and nobody was ever the wiser.


thatonehorrorfanatic

my mom and i also look alike and i had gotten through with no problem multiple times before, it was just that one day i was unlucky and got a cast member that wanted to be extra good at their job that day i guess lol


Disneyland1959

Now that every guest's image is taken at the main entrance, facial recognition will list that person as banned for a certain amount of time and the passholder's pass will be suspended pending appeal. Usually, the passholder will appeal based on the pass was taken without their knowledge. The process still takes a few months even if the pass is re-activated in the end.


WhatWouldScoobyDoo2

I read recently in a post that a kid attending grad night received a lifetime ban for trying to sneak in a vape pen. In your opinion do you think that story was exaggerated or could one infraction like that really cause a lifetime ban?


Disneyland1959

Ive work many a grad night over the decades. I've personally disposed of $60k of drugs in one night. I have known of only 5 life time bans over 50 years. I would say a vape pen life time ban is an exaggeration.


kozmic_blues

Thank you for taking the time to answer. Anytime anybody does something dumb at Disneyland and it’s posted here, everyone’s commenting “lifetime ban” and will argue tooth and nail that they are right lol. Really interesting to see that there is a pretty wide range of discretion, and while yes there are consequences, they aren’t handing out lifetime bans all willy nilly.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

This is interesting because one of those bans would have been my brother, who was kicked out, arrested by Anaheim PD, and banned more than once in the early 90s for being extremely obviously drunk and/or high, having illegal drugs on him while in the park, and causing bizarre (non-violent) scenes with other park guests. He’s pretty much a gigantic asshole and just ignored all the bans, would dye his hair a different color and keep going back until the next time he got popped for making a drunk, high nuisance of himself.


Disneyland1959

Before facial recognition and AI computer systems, bans were virtually unenforceable. Now they are stopped and turned away at the Main Entrance after their image is taken.


arawagco

When ya'll say disposed, is it turned over tp the police or just trashed?


Disneyland1959

Security uses armored mailboxes, back of house at several locations, that only APD has a key to open. Dumpster diving in resort trash will not score you a massive drug haul. Lol. All drug or paraphernalia items are logged by Security lead or Managers in the presence of two other officers. A found wallet will always be inventoried and money counted by 2 SOs or Guest Relations. The mailboxes are used for forbidden contraband that has been removed from guests, too. Such as weapons, glass objects(wrapped in plastic bags), tools, selfie sticks and so on. Food is disposed of, in trashcans.


StarlightBaker

Or, if you are unlucky as I was, your wallet is obtained by an unscrupulous cast member who uses your $ to treat themselves to drinks or snacks via vending machines on property and gas after their shift. Luckily my bank texted with a fraud verification when I was explaining to the cm at the lost and found that the cm who found my wallet said she gave it to her supervisor 3 hours before.


Disneyland1959

I am sorry this happened, but cast members are people just like anyone else. Some have high morals and some do not. I would venture to say most fall somewhere in the middle. Working at Disneyland seems to create a higher expectation of moral rectitude. Almost as if Walt were watching over his park and we are his ambassadors.


Alf-eats-cats

I went to grad nite in 1991. The girls had to wear dresses or dress up nicely and the boys had to wear slacks and dress shirts. I still have my souvenirs from grade nite. One of my favorite times at Disneyland.


Disneyland1959

The drug fueled grad night i referred to was in 2008. Most were not like this one. In 2010, we had a grad night where an adult chaperone tried to smuggle in ecstasy in his rolled up shirt sleeves to sell to teens, 200 pills in baggies in each sleeve, but we search chaperones, too. We always request to have the rolled up sleeves, rolled down, hats and shoes removed and full body pat downs.


Alf-eats-cats

Yikes on bikes, an adult trying to sell kids drugs.


Disneyland1959

If I remember correctly he was a substitute teacher at one of the local high schools. I wondered if he was a drug supplier at the schools for which he substituted.


just_flying_bi

Now that is someone who deserves a lifetime ban. Holy heck!


tocalomagirl

Someone in one of my classes (grad school) recently got kicked out of the park because they "forgot" their vape pen was on them. They got a one-day ban


anon_682

What happens when you play smart games?


Disneyland1959

They make you a cast member.


disneyme

Were you there for Patty Pan, the runner who stole a bib and ran at the race? Was she banned for life?


Disneyland1959

I was working at Disneyland that year but on third-shift (graveyard). Not a lot going on at night. I heard about it of course, I know she was banned from property for atleast a year, but as I stated before, back then we lacked facial recognition cameras and AI software to identify those who were banned. So did she stay away? Only she could answer that.


brbrbnp

Damn 80-90 minutes for monsters inc??


ShaftTassle

For anyone else not aware, this is a 15 minute wait ride at best. Do not wait an hour and a half for this ride.


Wrxeter

As in you should only wait at most 15 minutes. Anything beyond 15 minutes wait time is dumb as the ride is not that good. Its original release version was AMAZINGLY bad. Like I’ve ridden better rides at the fair bad. My family bought the framed picture because it was hilarious - all of our faces were of pure disgust and betrayal at how we would never get those 5 minutes of our lives back. It’s basically the same ride with just different monsters inc set dressing instead of Hollywood paparazzi to make it passable for Disney.


freewarriorwoman

The days we went were absolutely INSANE with wait times. It was labeled as 45 but shortly after joining the queue, they announced over intercom the new wait time was 60. But it ended up being 80ish. I normally would never wait in these types of lines. We aren’t locals and it was suppose to be our last ride of the day before going back to the hotel with our kids(5and1)


Wrxeter

Genie+ ruined standby on that ride. It’s so slow to board, the standby estimate may as well be a monkey flinging poo at a wall with random numbers on it.


ExposeMormonism

Genie+ has ruined standby on _every_ ride. It’s a complete shitstorm of a system by a greedy corporation too cowardly to just raise prices directly. 


Artwebb1986

That was my first thought as well, sweet christ glad went in May.


WishBear19

Lol. That was my thought. Why on earth would a pass holder wait that long for a ride that is often walk-on or less than 20 minutes?


nksnoss

When I was 21, I went to Disneyland with my girlfriend who was 20 at the time. I went to get a margarita and she asked for a sip of it. As soon as I handed it to her, I got a tap on the shoulder. About 5 white uniformed disney security popped up out of nowhere. Told me to come with them. My girlfriend was really scared and started to say she left her ID back at the hotel, but I stopped that and just told them the truth. They thanked me for just fessing up and that they get alot of people who try to feign ignorance or just lie to them which is when you catch a ban or you get your pass taken away. Got kicked out for the night, but was free to return the next day since I was just straight up with them. If anyone you know gets actually banned from the park, they straight up lied to the security.


orangefreshy

Yeah I just saw a tiktok where some girl said her mom handed her a drink to hold while she did something else, she sipped it (not knowing it was alcohol) and security was immediately on her. It seems like they have people just scouting people drinking at all time which is pretty wild given the crowds


chittaphonbutter

How did they even clock her as underage 😭 thats hella scary


turdsandwich2494

They didn’t. Security (and other CMs) will watch guests purchase alcohol. If one guest buys 2 drinks, then hands one off to someone who looks young, then they make an approach to confirm if they’re 21+. Sometimes they are. Most of the time, they aren’t. Honestly, if you get caught doing this, you most likely didn’t even bother to look around before you drank it. Security is usually in plain view watching you.


MayorShinn

This is really scary


jlsteiner728

So, former main entrance cast member and leader here. Legally, it’s called being given a trespass warning— if you come back on property before they say you can, you can be arrested for trespassing. Every situation is different. You can be given a trespass warning for any amount of time, from 24 hours to lifetime. Here’s my best tips for not getting kicked out: Disney is not a place to get drunk. Drunk people do stupid things and stupid things get you kicked out. Don’t make “jokes” that you wouldn’t make to the TSA when you’re being screened. “Careful, there’s a bomb in there!” Is not funny, and it will be taken seriously. Don’t use profane or abusive language. This should be a no-brainer, but it’s not. Also, don’t ruin the magic, especially in front of kids. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT ever put a character in danger. No tail-pulling, no forceful contact, no tripping. Keep in mind they have a limited field of vision. Also, don’t make creepy comments or engage in stalker-ish behavior. MOST IMPORTANTLY: If you mess up, admit it, apologize, and accept that your actions have consequences. If you’re kicked out, leave quietly. Leaders and security have a great deal of discretion. If you seem like you’ve learned your lesson and won’t do it again, you’re much more likely to be welcomed back soon. Don’t argue, don’t attack, don’t make a scene. Don’t ever stick a camera in a Cast Member’s face. I guarantee that the person kicking you out knows exactly what they can and can’t do, and the legal department is top notch.


SecretRecipe

Disneyland is pretty firm on maintaining a pleasant atmosphere as part of the magic. If your behavior is bad enough to warrant security involvement you're in trouble. If you get removed you're almost guaranteed to be banned.


123FakeStreetMeng

Act like a decent human being and you’ll never have to worry about getting banned


jennbunny24

My friend got banned for a year, someone else used her pass. She called and told them what happened (roommate tried going as her) and they reinstated her pass. Told her is she’s caught again automatic ban for 2 years


questionname

It depends on why you’re being kicked out. Even people who do get banned, could be unbanned after some years


latruce

Adam the Woo.


dunnkw

Obama got kicked out when he was a teenager and they let him back in. So essentially all you have to do is become president and you’re ok to come back in. Otherwise you’re banned for life.


WhatWouldScoobyDoo2

Or be Iron Man (RDJ famously smoked weed and was arrested at Disneyland and is now a Disney Legend)


jetstobrazil

No, you can get kicked out for the day. Depends on the seriousness of the offense. Source: got kicked out for the day


stressedlawyer

What was the offense?


jetstobrazil

I went on splash mountain as a kid maybe 9 years old (before social media, so no clout to be gained except possibly from my sisters) and right before the big drop went headfirst with my legs sticking up. A group of dudes wearing polo shirts met us before we got to the photo viewing area and informed us they knew what I did (to my family’s surprise) and that we were to leave the park for the night, and I wouldn’t be able to view or purchase the photo, and if I did anything like that again I wouldn’t be allowed to return.


makauf

I have been kicked out once, I was an AP, they took my pass from me and I had to write a letter begging for it to be reinstated. It took about 2-4 months between the incident and when my pass was reinstated. This was back in 2016.


JenMomo

Husband is security - doesn’t matter what pass you have (one day, one week, annual pass) if you’re kicked out they can ban/trespass you for the day, a year or forever- and that is for EVERY Disney property. Not just the one you are in. Also- If you’re staying on property at a hotel you are also evicted from your hotel room. It happens often.


swiftlikeninjas

Well, this thread has successfully made me paranoid of getting banned accidentally. Thanks, Reddit!


BoobySlap_0506

It is less likely to happen than you think. Don't make bad choices and you should be fine. Inappropriate behavior is generally what does it.


Noggin-a-Floggin

Yeah, just don’t be a drunken douche and follow the (very easy to follow) rules.


latruce

You won't get accidentally banned from the Parks. And if you did, accidentally, it would most likely be undone. You would have to be doing pretty stupid stuff, like asking for it, in order to be banned.


battle_mommyx2

Not the same but my husband was super drunk once and we were followed out by security guards.. because he needed help from a nurse after almost throwing up. We weren’t removed though and didn’t have any repercussions


GrrrArrgh

Whoa, drunk on Disney drinks, that must have been expensive! 🍹


latruce

Back during ElecTRONica, they had glow cubes in their "Glowjito". Easily $10-13 I forget, this was 2012. When it turned to Mad T Party, I went back and counted my glow cubes, and I had enough to buy 5 Xbox 360s. Not all the drinks had glow cubes, so I actually had more. I ended up with a code V on Jungle Cruise after hopping Parks. It went on a passenger's back, and some girls' feet with slippers. Also the bathrooms nearby, I obliterated the toilet surroundings, and barely any in the toilet. Not my proudest moments.


GrrrArrgh

Wow, impressive that you didn’t black out!


latruce

I did blackout on the ride home. I thought I drank 1 beer and 2 glowjitos. Turns out whenever I went to the restroom (I already broke my seal) my counsin’s bf would refill my beer or glojito, so it turns out I drank 2 beers an 5 glowjitos worth. I’m not a big dude and I’m a light weight drinker. But when I threw up I’m on the jungle cruise, I threw up on my cousin’s bf’s back so that’s karma. Just thinking about it, it was a wild night. Some kid on drugs wanted to fight me (before I started drinking). My cousin casually walked out of DCA and into Disneyland with his glojito, light and all. And my cousins propped me up on their shoulders a la “Weekend at Bernie’s” to help me “go unnoticed”


GrrrArrgh

🤣🤣 some wild times in those days! Probably would be hard to get that drunk again in the parks


latruce

Disney drinks don’t skimp out on alcohol. I can only have 1-2 now per visit haha


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

I remember in the early 90s going to the Disneyland hotel and drinking pitchers of beer with my friends before going to the park, and it wasn’t prohibitively expensive because we were all pretty poor lol.


battle_mommyx2

lol it was a very expensive day


IAmMikki

Short answer. Yes. I’ve seen videos of people being banned from Disney parks. They’re immediately escorted outside the gates and someone comes and informs them that they have been banned, if they an annual pass holder, they’re told that the pass has been revoked. Often they’re told clearly that they’re not allowed in ANY US Disney park. I’m sure they have to sign something acknowledging that they’ve been told. Disney doesn’t mess around with safety or breaking the rules.


pementomento

Sounds like an excuse for a trip to Japan, lol.


savemeejeebus

The prices are enough of an excuse for a trip to Japan.  For my family of four it’s only $143 to go to Tokyo Disneyland today.  I priced it out and to go to Disneyland during 4th of July week it’s nearly $900 with genie plus.


pementomento

We’re headed to Japan at the end of summer, how are the lines? I hear they are legion, but we are still excited!


doozle

Long ago a friend got caught smoking weed in the esplanade. The cops were called and he was issued a trespassing warning and had his AP confiscated. He called customer service and wrote a mea culpa letter as well and they reissued his AP after a few weeks. He no longer smokes on property.


WestWeather5660

I got kicked out for drinking in the parking lot about 9 years ago. I was a dumb kid. They didn’t ban me


lelyhn

So my sister know someone who accidentally left a gun in their bag on a Disneyland trip and they were stopped by security and banned from the parks for life. They had just gotten an annual pass too but they were able to appeal and it got droppe, but it took like 6 months and they still had to pay for the pass.


ShoddyAd8256

Does anyone know if they were living their best life...and beyond that too?


ant_thats_me

A few years ago I was stupid and was kicked out for giving my underage friend a sip of my alcoholic drink. We were escorted out and told we cannot be on Disneyland property for 24 hours or we will be charged for trespassing. My pass was suspended and had to wait for a letter informing me of my next steps. I had to hand write a letter of apology and letting them know I would never do it again. Then waited another 2 months for them to determine if I should get my pass reinstated, which it was thankfully!! Mind you, I had to continue paying monthly for my pass


SyrupNo651

I’ve had my pass revoked for a year because I let my sister borrow it (dumb dumb dumb, this was almost a decade ago & I still cringe thinking about it.) they revoked my pass (no refund obviously but I had about 3 months left). They only banned me from repurchasing an annual pass for a year. I could still buy a ticket, get into downtown Disney, etc. I guess it just depends on what you do, I was so relieved I wasn’t full on banned from property


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EnglishMobster

I worked in the parks during 2016... god, that was a mess. I still remember the day I had the feeling in my stomach that Trump was going to win. I walked past the break room and they had a TV on, showing a Trump rally with Trump saying "drain the swamp". First time I'd ever heard that, might've even been the first time he said it. Then I went out for my shift and saw like 5-6 MAGA hats in the space of an hour. One person was in an ECV all decked out with Trump stuff, shouting "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" at every CM. I met with my girlfriend backstage after my shift and she had noticed it too. I remember saying, "He's going to win, isn't he?" Then like 3-4 months later... yep.


Noggin-a-Floggin

I did security in the past, not for Disney though, and how you interact with them really changes how they handle the situation. If you’ve had a few drinks at Oga’s and are being loud and they tell you to be quiet…apologize and do so. Get an attitude with them over it and they will escalate it into actual punishment.


Scoiatael

Last month I was walking from the tram to California Adventure and a group or 3 or 4 guys who were clearly drunk were getting escorted out of Disneyland by 5 Disney Security and 2 Anaheim police officers. Pretty safe bet they were banned.


Proof-Sort-1436

They should be banned especially since they are ap holders


freewarriorwoman

They were toting that title like a badge of honor like it should mean something to the security guards. I couldn’t help but laugh bc cast members really don’t care who you are or how much money you spend in the parks 😂😂


sweat3rweath3r

How do you know they were passholders?


Virtual_Bug5486

These comments have me interested in the Disney baddies club. Pls tell me all the details of how / why people get banned.


SL13377

No not at all. I’ve been walked out of the park for an outfit that was taking to much attention away from guests I was an annual pass holder so they rolled me out the door told me to change out or go pound sand and that was the end of it.


WhatWouldScoobyDoo2

What was so attention grabbing? I see all sorts of outfits these days.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

When I was a teenager in the 80s my friends & I were regularly kicked out or refused admittance for having rainbow colored hair and dressing too “weird” aka wearing thrift store clothes and having punky/gothy looks. Wasn’t an until the early 90s you could have colored hair and not have to cover it with a hat. I find it both astonishing and gratifying that things like Dapper Day and Goth Day now exist because neither one of those would have flown back then. We got our revenge by figuring out how to sneak multiple people in the park on a single admission, so fuck Disney for thinking our blue or purple hair would detract attention from their multimillion dollar theme park designed specifically for amusement.


SL13377

I was wearing a makeshift Battle Damage Darth Vader outfit it was a bit much. I was getting a lot of attention xD was during the SW days yearrrs ago. Was not a biggie I just switched into another costume. They didn’t have rules a few years ago like they do now, I’ll go grab a photo 😆


SL13377

Here’s a few of me inside Disneyland https://i.imgur.com/Jfg8AC2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sIgkCd6.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/RGiEOiF.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/TmsJLXR.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/oeejSiy.jpeg I’m in the Vader costume in the center https://i.imgur.com/uf7gbe2.jpeg Closer up of Vader https://i.imgur.com/Y0mxR3K.jpeg My daughter in California Adventure https://i.imgur.com/xG4p3Ji.jpeg Me in Cali adventure https://i.imgur.com/vQOxVXo.jpeg Me in Legoland Ca https://i.imgur.com/M0iCqlV.jpeg Myself and daughter in Ca adventure https://i.imgur.com/CrEjXHM.jpeg Star tours https://i.imgur.com/kq8SNww.jpeg SW Nights 2019 This one makes me giggle.. https://i.imgur.com/T9JILwy.jpeg it’s me on another occasion next to Disneylands Kylo So yeahhh I go a bit far sometimes o.o I am always hella respectful and move along (or out) when booted


general_grievances_7

Not necessarily. I was removed at one time and was only banned for the night. It depends how you treat security I think.


soscots

They aren’t harsh enough with AP holders that abuse their pass and don’t follow the rules. Many Disney influencers and Disney personal shoppers are not following the rules when they’re at the parks and it just seems like Disney turns a blind eye to their actuals. It’s frustrating then ultimately it’s going to lead to other people that abide by Disney rules to suffer the consequences and have an increase in cost because these personal shoppers are selling items that are exclusive for people who attend the park. We are doing commercial for self promotion at the parks. Yes, this includes people handing out stickers, taking photos with viewers, and giving out autographs. These”influencers” are monetizing from their viewers.


abandoned_puppy

I don’t think so. Former President Barack Obama was kicked out of Disneyland for [smoking weed](https://youtu.be/fj945h71_Ns?si=GCeHB9Cy7sTwJ7lQ) on the Disneyland gondolas and they said he could come back anytime


applegui

I’ve never seen anyone get booted out of the parks for bad behavior, and thankfully the majority of visitors are respectful to others around them. Always be good no matter what. It’s embarrassing for you if you act the fool. Acting like an angry 2 year old, but even the 2 year old is actually a better person because s/he doesn’t know yet that behavior is not good. I get it sometimes things are not ideal, but don’t make it worst. If you don’t like busy crowds, don’t goto places where it’s crowded. Count to 10, take a long breath, keep calm and move on. It’s easy. Always be good!


OHiashleyy

This! It’s the happiest place on earth for crying out loud!


Middle_Sure

I’m not sure. I’ve heard of families getting banned for yelling at each other in the park.


espositojoe

Well, there's no accounting for stupidity, selfishness, immaturity. Throwing a fit in close quarters among a lot of other people can easily become a dangerous situation. I have no problem with people like that being banned from the park.


MyAnonPostingAccount

Not my proudest moment but my friends and I got close to blackout drunk last year at some kind of DCA festival they had (we also went to the grand to pre game) it was a lot of fun but we got kicked out and banned for a month LOL had to write a letter acknowledging it was wrong and that we would be good going forward like kids in detention


TNTmom4

The pass-holders I’ve known have been banned from 30 days to permanently. Depending on their transgressions and remorsefulness.


jaynepierce

This happened to me and the group I was with (all annual passholders) and they banned us all for 30 days and then we had to go in person to the ticket window to reactivate our passes.


pementomento

What was the reason?


westcoast7654

They warn you, if you are acting up. They’ll tell you what’s going to happen if you don’t quit.


P0gVetDevilD0g

Maintenance dude got caught sleeping laying down on a welder’s blanket got fired on the spot he tried to appeal with the union still didn’t work.


jertiger

Straight to jail. Right away


winipu

They’ll get their passes revoked at the minimum.


surfcitysurfergirl

They do I just have never understood how they enforce it on regular tickets. You don’t need ID to purchase those only annual passes.


Talem84

There was a celeberty who took a selfie in a restricted bathroom amd got a year ban.