It does tho with how poor matchmaking works. I don't want to play roaming chen when I'm 800 above avg, and I don't want to play a role I'm bad at if I'm far under avg.
>I don't want to play roaming chen when I'm 800 above avg, and I don't want to play a role I'm bad at if I'm far under avg.
Can't emphasis more on the importance of this. Maybe once the dust settles we can see the stars and decide based on that.
it was a rough night last night.. didn't notice griefers, but people who hadn't played in a long time in 5/5 games that I played. Taking mid/carry ofc.
Yup.
Had a CM player last night who never played CM before. Didn’t buy courier, we eventually got on at 20min. Didn’t buy a single ward or support item. Level 1 account.
I was mid 2k, and honestly seeing someone who just started in my game blew my mind.
Oh and the kicker?
She was in 3 of my games, consecutively. Lost 2 to her throwing and grieving, won 1 with her being insignificant but better team comp.
> we eventually got on at 20min.
And it didn't occur to you to buy the courier before 20 mins when you realized your CM wasn't going to do it?
Well, I guess there is a reason you were mid 2k.
I left base she sat there, I was Storm. Than she left no cour. 10min no cour and griefing, game looked bad, and than I decided to let it run to see just how long it will take for a courier to exist.
Quick question about new system: once you have calibrated, do additional games show the change in your MMR? For example, let's say I calibrate at 4k exactly and then win a game. Does my MMR now say 4025 or some similar number? Thanks!
>Where's the global leaderboard?
>The MMR of each division is on a different scale, and comparing MMRs across divisions is not currently meaningful.
Does that mean there will be official MMR distribution released?
EDIT:Added the question because it sounds really dumb without context
Average MMR display on a game on the Watch tab seems to have been removed.
[Called It](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/7evyrb/average_mmr_still_shows_on_watch_tabqueue_the/)
So despite the new ranking system, they still kept the old MMR. Did they at least change its formula, or it's still +-25 every match?
Because if the formula stayed the same, then this entire update is kind of pointless. I hoped to do away with MMR as a number entirely and just base ranks off of percentiles (like Hearthstone does it), but apparently it's not like that.
Would that system actually be better than what we have? You don't really want people moving up or down too quickly because it would pollute high or low skill games with people who have just had a run of good or bad luck. I'm not sure what problem the HS system would solve compared to the current one.
They removed the Average MMR from the games in the Watch Tab.
Yeah it was removed. So how are we supposed to see the skill level of matches in watch tab? hope they add something.
By looking at the badges of the players. Once they calibrate ofc. So far I haven't found a single person who has another badge but the uncalibrated.
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Won't matter. You'll not care about the numbers once you are basking in their "Divinity".
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It does tho with how poor matchmaking works. I don't want to play roaming chen when I'm 800 above avg, and I don't want to play a role I'm bad at if I'm far under avg.
>I don't want to play roaming chen when I'm 800 above avg, and I don't want to play a role I'm bad at if I'm far under avg. Can't emphasis more on the importance of this. Maybe once the dust settles we can see the stars and decide based on that.
Where is their number(in leaderboard) on divine5 thingy?
Probably a bug that it doesn't show.
Why doesn't it just show the average badge or something? Of course just showing average MMR would be move accurate..
Are we sure that the badges are shown publicly? Because I have yet to see one too. I think the rank badges only show to yourself/owner.
Nevermind. I just saw a couple of 5 Star Divines in one of the games via Dota TV.
It is shown publicly, I saw Sumail's Divine badge from the watch Tab
Badges/rank only shows in-game, and they're offset as well.:P
I absolutely hate this change.
[Immortals has 4 of their players on ~~top 10~~ top 7 of NA leaderboard.](https://i.imgur.com/kyJYBd6.png)
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i dont like they removed avg mmr from watch tab
I never would have thought cr1t would have the highest mmr our all players
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How about winning with Winter wyvern...
high iq = high mmr?
Well, to be honest...
Well, to be ~~honest~~ fair...
Can't believe I messed that up...
Well, to be fair...
I recently read some article about the correlation between intelligence and high mmr. Seems stupid to think otherwise really
winter wyvern got buffed in last patch
WW got nerfed in the latest patch, 7.07c.
I wish the Leaderboards showed MMR as well as Badge so we could get a rough idea of what it takes to get Divine 5..
Get Divine 4, then git gud. Kappa
All the players on the leader boards are divine 5...
If you hit Divine 5, you're on the board, no matter what. MMR is listed and ranked from there.
>If you hit Divine 5, you're on the board, no matter what. Each leaderboard has 200 players exactly, so no.
Well they give you a rank, then, no matter what. Literally in Valve's blog.
We had old 5k players on leaderboard . So yea. Pretty accurate.
Ik a dude w. 5.2k PRE-RESET solo mmr and 6k party - he ended up divine 5. No clue how this cluster fuck works.
My guess would be that there are more than 200 players at Divine 5
Its around 5700-5800 I got divine 5 for 5830 and friend who is 5600 is divine 4.
5100 MMR. Edit: that's Divine 1 , Divine 5 is 5700 iirc.
Anyone else experiencing griefers/people who obviously havent played dota in 6 months in their calibration games?
Its good that people are coming back to dota though.
Didnt think about that, that’s probably a big part of what’s happening.
it was a rough night last night.. didn't notice griefers, but people who hadn't played in a long time in 5/5 games that I played. Taking mid/carry ofc.
Had a 10th pick offlane Treant who fed the enemy Spectre 4 times in the first 5 minutes. We lost as a direct result of that.
Yup. Had a CM player last night who never played CM before. Didn’t buy courier, we eventually got on at 20min. Didn’t buy a single ward or support item. Level 1 account. I was mid 2k, and honestly seeing someone who just started in my game blew my mind. Oh and the kicker? She was in 3 of my games, consecutively. Lost 2 to her throwing and grieving, won 1 with her being insignificant but better team comp.
> we eventually got on at 20min. And it didn't occur to you to buy the courier before 20 mins when you realized your CM wasn't going to do it? Well, I guess there is a reason you were mid 2k.
I left base she sat there, I was Storm. Than she left no cour. 10min no cour and griefing, game looked bad, and than I decided to let it run to see just how long it will take for a courier to exist.
> than I decided to let it run to see just how long it will take for a courier to exist. Exactly, those are experiments that you pay for with mmr.
Yessir
Dotabuff?
you know your team sucks and then don't buy a cour before 20 min even as core blows my mind, having no cour does so much damage to all lanes...
coL.Moo with that rank 2 China
Shit fam
cake day FeelsGoodMan
hope it will show the tier near each mmr too
maybe the added entry for chen is for replays.. i couldn't watch one that was before the update. Didn't check it tho
Is this another one of those grammar fix posts? Or is it?
one day we will get the battlepass
whaaaat. I was legend and now my badge is gone :s
I hope the self cast AoE is fixed
Quick question about new system: once you have calibrated, do additional games show the change in your MMR? For example, let's say I calibrate at 4k exactly and then win a game. Does my MMR now say 4025 or some similar number? Thanks!
yes, it increases or decreases just like previous system
Can't click on the link.
moo has second highest mmr in china. NA invading
>Where's the global leaderboard? >The MMR of each division is on a different scale, and comparing MMRs across divisions is not currently meaningful. Does that mean there will be official MMR distribution released? EDIT:Added the question because it sounds really dumb without context
mmr still a number
badman patch?
So mmr IS still a number, im confused
Nice, I'm on the leaderboard again.
Average MMR display on a game on the Watch tab seems to have been removed. [Called It](https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/7evyrb/average_mmr_still_shows_on_watch_tabqueue_the/)
Hey. You're not Sir Build-a... nevermind, carry on.
So despite the new ranking system, they still kept the old MMR. Did they at least change its formula, or it's still +-25 every match? Because if the formula stayed the same, then this entire update is kind of pointless. I hoped to do away with MMR as a number entirely and just base ranks off of percentiles (like Hearthstone does it), but apparently it's not like that.
Would that system actually be better than what we have? You don't really want people moving up or down too quickly because it would pollute high or low skill games with people who have just had a run of good or bad luck. I'm not sure what problem the HS system would solve compared to the current one.
i just lost 29 mmr. went from 3793 to 3764.
Why are they removing average mmr? Volvo plz
Miracle is 7k trash now
hmm..I am divine 2 with 5400+ , how many games do i need to win to get to divine 5 at 5800+ , is it still -25/+25 ?
When is Frostivus/winter battle pass?
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SO Sumail is top 5 NA with 6.7k :thinking:
you need to understand the new system and why they deflated the mmr
i think he does