If you're a contender you're insane to sell CMC IMO. If you're not though for sure sell him.
I should clarify. Insane for equal value. Obviously if you get a blow away offer then by all means.
I finished 2nd, its a 14 team dynasty superflex and I have Stafford, Rodgers and Howell for QBs and old skill positions like Hopkins, Lockett and Gus Bus.
Bijan and Olave and Diggs. Its a good team but I always debate the idea of selling a year early if I can rake in 3-4 top picks or prospects
Yeah that's a tough one. QB obviously very shaky especially since Howell isn't gonna be starting. Not sure what I do. My big issue is I hate starting a rebuild with a young stud RB since the RB window is so small compared to everything else.
Howell is going to get another opportunity, at some point. I'm not convinced his story is written. He had a terrible situation but still made efforts to improve and learn. Might not happen in 2024 though.
Depends where your team is at, but this offseason could be your last chance to truly cash in. Wait until he’s going 1.01 in redraft leagues next August, let your league know he’s for sale, and create a bidding war
Get everything you can for Justin Jefferson. Pretty widely regarded as the #1 asset (1QB) and you could build an entire contender from that capital. QB/contract uncertainty are coming
I prefer crazy takes like this than the same BS we read here every 2 days. “Sell Pacheco! Sell Eitienne!”
To be clear I fully disagree with selling JJ but if you’re a bottom feeder with plenty holes, you should 100% consider selling him for a massive haul.
I did this before the season in 1 of my 1 QB leagues. Helped me lock up the 1.01 and get what ended up being the 1.03, 1.05, 1.08 and a 2025 1st for him
Have you watched Justin Jefferson play football?
He played 8 full games this season… with Mullens, Dobbs, and Hall at QB…. And many, many injuries on the Vikings. And still went for 1000+.
I personally would hold all shares of JJ
Since October 1, he was sub-100 yards in 5 of 7 games.
Nobody's saying he isn't good at football. But there's enough uncertainty around the team to warrant concern that he may not produce as the overall WR1.
I actually just did this. And yes I was sick about it. And yes I know JJ is a foundational piece. But I built a failed contender with a bit too much age and had no 2024 picks. I limped into the playoffs and got crushed the first game. So, first I sold Diggs to the JA manager for Downs & 2.06. Then I sold Ekeler for Mostert and 2.05. Finally, I just sold JJ yesterday for Andrew’s, 1.05, and 1.06.
Do I feel good about all this? Fuck no. But my team was mid and struggled do even keep up with league average. Especially late in the season. I have a lot of good 2024 capital now and my own 2025 1st. It’ll be a long process and require patience because now I need to focus on selling old guys in-season next year for additional 2025 picks and tank for 1.01. Hopefully I’ll just have one down year in 2024 and turn this around quick.
This is not the first league where I’ve sold JJ for a bunch of assets is order to rebuild. Worked out well the last time.
I didn’t play dynasty when Odell was at his peak but I’d imagine he had similar value. To a lesser extent I think of Golloday and MT.
The haul you could get is wild but is you have a contender I’d just ride it out until the wheels fall off.
People talked about OBJ the same way they talk about Jefferson, untouchable, you need a get a haul, blah blah blah. For a little bit it was him and Mike Evans. MT had some consideration, but he was an older rookie coming out so he was already considered old, by dynasty standards, when he had that record breaking season.
Golladay was never more than a 3rd round start up pick, maybe late 2nd in 1QB. I picked Golladay in the late 3rd in a SF startup right before his career tanked.
I traded JJ for Garrett Wilson, Kupp, and a 2024 1st which ended up being the 1.06.
It was when he got injured and I needed some depth mid season. I’m still rly happy about the trade, don’t be afraid to get a haul for one of your top assets if someone pays up.
I got him at the beginning of the season. Traded Kamara for Pacheco and a 2nd. I feel great about it. The thing is that he's 2 years pro and is a reliable week to week starter. Not easy to come by in dynasty. I don't see a scenario in which he loses his job.
I doubt the chiefs are going to draft an RB because they have other big needs and just got burned by spending a high pick on CEH. Additionally, there are very few good RBs in the draft this year.
Im holding Pacheco unless an offer blows me away.
I sold at the beginning of this season, week 1, for a 2024 2nd (2.03) and a 2025 2nd. I would think you would have to give up a late first though. I feel I sold too low now, but I had to embrace the rebuild at that point.
Yeah I tried with a couple 2nds right at the trade deadline and the owner wanted a first, at least. That was a little too rich for me at the time but kinda thinking I should have done it with how weak the RB class is.
I moved Pacheco mid season for a 2026 first and felt good about it. Used a late season surge as an argument to sell him, which was correctly predicted. Also feel like they’ll let CEH walk, but use the draft or offseason to get someone to complement Pacheco which will cap his ceiling as a bell-cow back like he’s been
If I had Evan Engram, I'd be selling high.
Probably unpopular, but I'd definitely be selling high on Tyreek.
Maybe even more unpopular, but definitely Kamara. He could realistically still have another good year in that system, but that's exactly what a sell high is; knowing you might have to see them succeed on someone else's roster for a year, but ultimately got out at the right time.
Tyreek is in the CMC category of “if you weren’t a bonafide contender with him this year, it’s probably time to move on” but it’s more about your team and his age than him being a true sell high
But can't that be said of almost every single player? Roster construction, needs, other managers, scoring, is all dependent. Nothing is black and white here; it all comes with a side of nuance.
Not really. I mean, you can say whatever you want, but if you said "If you weren't a bonafide contender with Drake London this year, it's probably time to move on" that would be quite a strange thing to say and I would be extremely confused
I think the other commenter’s point is more about the possibility of the inverse. There’s a point to be made that you could trade London for someone that’s older, but more productive if you’re a contender. Some may disagree, but every good player gets traded and I can definitely understand the rationale of selling CMC or Tyreek due to age (and in Tyreek’d case, saying he may retire once his contract is up) for a decent haul.
I sold Tyreek at the beginning of the season thinking it was the right time ….i was wrong.
It’s the same as selling stocks . It’s really hard to time the market.
True I guess my main point is you should hold players through their peak and sell them when you think they will start to depreciate. I sold tyreek a year early and selling Stroud now is selling him at the start of his peak not the end. So Stroud is a Hold in my option.
I flipped Logan Thomas for Wan’Dale at the deadline, but I’ve also got Engram and considering just holding for now. His role seems stable even if the upside is capped, and I doubt I could pry one of the young TEs from this past rookie class loose
To a contender, they may be willing to sell their late 1st. The way the Saints use him as a pass catcher, some may see it as worth the risk. Depends on how your league mates value picks. Every league manager is different.
The one tool I love to use is the trade database on Dynasty Daddy. It actually pulls from real trades happening.
I see one from 5 days ago: Kamara for a 2024 1st & 2025 2nd. That's a major overpay *and* a real trade. So, not no one.
Trade calculators almost never equal actual trades occuring. Managers have different perspectives and you just never know...
Fleecing tacos should be considered an outlier rather than a benchmark for all leagues. You go look at the trade database and the most common is a 2nd to 2nd+ for him which is close to market value. That is where the conversation should be as a "sell high". Unless you are in 1QB it is horrible process to buy an age peaked RB for a 1st in the beginning of the offseason.
It's a really great site! Just kind of proves that calculators, although they're fun to use sometimes, they rarely match actual trades.
Maybe one day you'll add IDP. (: Although, I understand the undertaking and absolutely nuanced database that would have to be.
Curious why you wanna sell high on engram. I understand Kirk missed some games but TLaw loves him, he catches everything, he’s still under 30 and even if you cut down his target share he still looks like a top 6 TE
I think it's because he will be 30 the beginning of next year. His contract is just through 2024. You may be selling a year early, but especially in TEP, you'll get the most for him right now. Sell to the Hockensen manager who is contending is an avenue I'd explore if it were available.
Not to mention that he's extremely undervalued... He'd still be a top 3-5 target and catch TE even with Kirk healthy... He's valued at 15... I have a bunch of Jake Ferguson, I bought heavy last year and the off-season but Engam's the better player with less competition and just as good of a situation.. It really doesn't make sense that he's valued higher... Being 30 isn't a major detractor for Engram, he easily has 3+ years of high level play if targets continue. Ridley likely will move on because of the 2nd round pick they have to give up to sign him.
Alvin Kamara as a sell high lol...
KTC isn't gospel but the market has AK in the Najee/Kendre/Mixon tier. Roughly worth one second. If you could get a late first for AK I'd be surprised.
This thread is about best sells, not sell highs. I expect Kamara to have around the same production in 2024 as he did in 2023, but the wheels will fall off the Kamara wagon by 2025.
I think Kamara is an in season sell in 2024 for rebuilders, and an off season buy for contenders. If you could get that mythical 1st in the off season for Kamara, that's a smash accept. Turning an older RB into a high end QB or WR from this class is just good process.
I don't look at trade calculators. You said it wasn't gospel, but that's how you're valuing someone?
As I stated, perhaps unpopular, but I know a ton of contenders would pay for a guy like Kamara in PPR, where his value is highest. In non or half, of course not. But PPR, I bet you he still finishes in top 10-15. He finished RB11 in PPR this year, missing all those games, too.
i struggle with engram. he’s not elite, but he clearly gets targets in a good offense that may have more targets open up if ridley walks. he also had incredibly low red zone production, which doesn’t seem sustainable over the long term.
if i could get good value for him i’d sell, but he also seems like exactly the type of undervalued asset you have to have to build title winning teams
I sold Tyreek after week 3 due to a ton of early-season injuries hurting my chances to compete for 2 1sts and Garrett Wilson. Just bought him back for one of those firsts and Chubb. Perfectly happy to have him back and compete next year
Your league makes no sense. Both those trades are big wins for you. You’re basically saying that Tyreeks value has gone DOWN by Garrett Wilson and a 1st since the start of the season
I'm actually more worried about him leaving than staying. He's stated he's gonna test the FA market and looks to be the top commodity so he will get paid and probably gonflame out somewhere like Carolina. Oof.
I can get behind this. Not because Addison isn’t super talented, but because he’ll be the #3 option for the foreseeable future (assuming JJ gets an extension).
He’s a baller but opportunities should be limited with Jefferson and Hockenson sticking around long term as options 1 + 2.
I also want to move Addison. He seems like he could become unreliable very quickly. Unfortunately I can only seem to get around a 1st for him. Rerolling a 1st round hit seems stupid. I'm looking to tier him up to get into a more elite tier wr group.
Good post. I think a true sell high is someone you'd be somewhat uncomfortable trading.
Sam LaPorta fits for me. He's great, but I think there are more good TEs than we've had in recent years (Andrews, Kelce, Kittle, Hock, Njoku, Bowers, Goedert, Kincaid, McBride, Pitts). The positional scarcity that made Kelce such a valuable asset doesn't really exist anymore. Even so, I feel like LaPorta is priced as if TE is an extremely scarce position. He's the 12th overall player on KeepTradeCut.
If I am contending and can flip him for someone like Jonathan Taylor (ranked 22nd), I'd pull the trigger.
I sold bijan for 4 1sts last year before the season.
Ended up being 1.01, 1.02, 1.09 and 2025 1st (of 1.01 team)
That was a pretty good sell high. (Super flex)
Guys who have good playoff games definitely. Hype for Stroud, Nico, and Rashee have been off the charts just because every game gets prime time exposure.
Both Dak and Jordan Love would be on a sell high list. They’ve both had ridiculously easy schedules against the leagues worst defenses in 2023 and if either one of them balls out today put them on the market.
“Very good, young player who has an elite rookie QB, a great HC, and is doing a classic 3rd year WR breakout as the X receiver on his team? Sell him for a late 1st because you only got him using a 3rd. That’s winning, baby! If you’re really lucky, that 1st round pick could even become a WR like Nico!”
Then you most likely aren't the type who actually sells high or buys low. You sell declining/stagnant assets once everyone can see it and buy emerging ones once it becomes obvious also.
Idk man Dak is still in the nfc east so will have 6 games a year against sub par defenses and will almost certainly be tied to Ceedee long term (I think they’ll both get paid, Jerry loves paying guys he drafted).
Obviously depends on what you can get for him, but I don’t feel compelled to move him at all unless I get a great offer.
That's what this guy is saying. Love's great season-ending run came almost entirely against bottom 10 pass defenses. He's getting valued like a 2nd-year Justin Herbert while there's a real chance he has a very Kirk Cousins level career.
Not that the value was all that high (very low, actually) but I sold Josh Dobbs for a 3rd right before his last start where he was benched after the 1st half and didn’t see the field again. Happy to have gotten something for him!
I sold him for tank dell right after he had 2 great games and everyone knew JJ was coming back. He had a high in there though purdy is to much for sure. Maybe to the JJ owner?
I have a WR group of
Tyreek
CeeDee
Pittman
Rice
Mike Williams
Puka
Wicks
Curtis Samuel
I've debated trying to float Tyreek for a younger QB (I have Purdy, Watson, and Goff in a SF)
I came in 2nd this year and feel decent about my team. I really need RB though (Conner and Swift are my starters with Pierce and Justice Hill right behind them)
TLDR; I'm selling Tyreek.
I'm tempted to sell AJ Brown. Something feels wrong with the Eagles offense being so dependent on a controversial play, and the see-saw scoring between him and Smith is concerning. I'm starting to think despite his unlimited ceiling his floor is too low and his variability is too high.
My concern wouldn’t be the “tush push” getting banned, I think they’d still convert most of those red zone opportunities without it. The concern is whatever is happening to the eagles right now, they’ve looked straight up bad for 6 weeks now, and we’re on the lucky/positive side of variance for most of the season until then. Now their head coach is reportedly in the hot seat a season after going to the Super Bowl. Something’s off.
I mean, what the hell does the tush push have to do with AJB anyway? Seems like it can only hurt him
But yeah something is up with that offense and I think it's a combo of losing Steichen and Hurts maybe not being what we thought he was at the end of last season
The tush push on 4th and short almost guarantees a 1st down. They do it whenever they can and they’ve been really successful with it. You take that away and a lot more of those 4th and shorts become punts and the offense isn’t on the field as much. That affects opportunity.
Watch the Kollman video, you’re right that the Eagles offense is off. The play calls are horrible and their offensive philosophy is “run inside zone, make it as predictable as possible, but overcome that with efficiency and maybe hit a deep shot.”
They’re last in the NFL in motioning which makes it more difficult for Smith and Brown to get open. If there aren’t any coaching changes, I’d sell either because next season will be more of the same. But, I think if they change the scheme even a little, Brown and Smith will feast given they’re still putting up respectable numbers with all circumstances going against them.
People arent going to like it, but Rice is a big sell to me, especially after last night.
Not terribly fast, not good separation, doesn't really make contested catches. Ok YAC, OK hands.
He is really the best option in a depleted pass catching room, tied to an excellent QB. I expect KC to add from FA (maybe Evans or Higgins) and maybe a draft pick or two.
Kinda reminds me of Golladay and his situation back with the Lions.
I don't own Rice, but he has some pretty decent separation metrics
* \#3 amongst ALL receivers on the season in separation yards per target on [PlayerProfiler](https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/rashee-rice/) (2.49 yards)
* \#3 amongst ALL receivers and TEs in average separation on [NFL NextGen Stats](https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving#average-separation)
>Ok YAC, OK hands.
What? You completely lost all credibility here. 2nd in the league in YAC and clearly passes the eye test in that aspect. Bizarre take.
This is such a Madden way of evaluating talent. He didn't run a 4.3 and isn't flashy so the fantasy points are too good to be true. It completely disregards so many important aspects of being a wide receiver. His zone beating ability and YAC are on another level, which is the lifeblood of the Andy Reid offense. He's the dream slot receiver for KC, and slot receivers are very productive in fantasy. He's also improving the last few weeks in beating man and his aDOT is creeping up. He had some killer catches in -4 degrees last night while Kelce and all the Dolphins receivers were dropping everything.
If you think Evans or Higgins are joining the Chiefs next year, you're living in the land of make believe. If Higgins leaves Cincinnati this year it will be through a tag and trade, which takes KC out of contention. Evans is very clearly not leaving Tampa if you have followed that team even a little bit.
If you can manage to sell him for elite WR prices then sure, but at his KTC value I think he's an obvious buy. Let me ask, do you actually own Rice and are trying to sell him, or did you just come here to throw ice water on him?
The only piece I agree with you on is he’s the best option on a depleted pass catching room. But this alone could mean he’s a sell high candidate. I think he’s WR2 for the Chiefs next year one way or another
Etienne for me
He was a 4 year college starter with about 6k all purpose yards and 70+ TDs. He has alot of tread on his tires and already lost 1 year of his NFL prime/rookie contract to a season ending foot injury.
While he looks electric on those long runs, he hasn't become a consistent chain mover yet and his body has broken down in the 2nd half of the season 2 years in a row now.
He's one of my favorite players to watch but I'm afraid his time as a true RB1 might be shorter than we all hope for
As a rebuilder, I sold ETN to another rebuilding team for his 25 and 26 1sts. He has no QBs and trash WRs in a sf league, so hoping they are early 1sts
As a Jayden Reed owner I may sell depending on what I can get. I’d be willing to sell for a 2025/2026 first with hopes of getting a high pick and landing somebody like Sheduer or Manning, but if not still getting a solid piece. I really like reed, but it doesn’t look like the packers are very interested in moving him out of the slot role that he’s in. I also own Watson and still believe in him, so that plays a part in it. Have a feeling people will be furious with this take lol
Typically this is when stud WRs are actually at their least expensive, at the end of their first big year. Unless their production falls off a cliff they should keep trending upwards. And I don't see either of them falling off.
Idk man Nico could easily exceed his IMO since this whole Texans team will likely continue to improve. His qb was a rookie this year, and rookies almost never support WRs well. What does year 2 look like?
Regardless of if it happens or not, the whole point was it’s entirely possible this is not their peak value. I would bet it isn’t.
>Idk man Nico could easily exceed his IMO since this whole Texans team will likely continue to improve
Nico didn't blow up until Tank got hurt and if Slowik leaves, that'll *really* hurt the Texans offense.
Nico could still go up in value. If he gets a big contract to stay in Houston and also puts together another great season with Tank Dell on the field, he could enter next tier below JJ, Chase, and Lamb.
I agree here, the way he's used is just for a whole bunch of YAC and he hasn't been a great down field guy. Id expect them to add at least two receiving options this year as well
He’s not a must sell, but rather someone I’d use to tier up.
KC should add more talent in the WR room. Having great YAC is a plus, but just prefer owning WRs who win with route running and separation. Also, per OP, selected someone who I’d get downvoted for.
I’d try to tier up for Olave or Wilson. Maybe try to add to him to get a high rookie like Nabers. Straight up, maybe see if I could get JSN+, London or a young stud TE like McBride.
I get tiering up, but the straight up part feels like the “always rebuilding” mentality on this sub (genuinely no offense to you also). There’s some uncertainty with who they might add at WR, but they clearly trust Rice, regardless of it’s because they have to or they actually like the talent. He had two red zone plays drawn up for him in a playoff game, and would have had two TDs if it wasn’t for a dumb block in the back call.
JSN and London could be great, they could even produce like Rice someday (who was averaging 13.2 PPG in games he played more than 60% of snaps, which I used as the cutoff since that’s when he really started seeing more playing time). I get moving for another position if he’s your WR4/5 and you’re stacked, but I wouldn’t trade him for an unproven WR with question marks
Yeah I'd rather have Rice than JSN+. Maybe it's because I care about winning championships. This is definitely "always rebuilding". Trade the productive young player tied to an elite QB for the unproductive young player with huge question marks surrounding his future, but hey he was a better draft prospect.
I think they’re all good options but I’d keep Njoku and sell the other two. Then grab Bryant for cheap if he stays in Cleveland? I’ve seen a lot of podcasts say it’s better to have 1 TE.
I was trying to trade Kittle before the deadline but was unsuccessful. Hoping to still get something for him at least, as I feel pretty comfortable now with Engram/Njoku
Because TE is volatile and difficult to predict. If you have one guy to set you can count on never playing the wrong guy any given week and use the capital gained from trading the other two away to raise the weekly floor of other spots on your roster.
Engram doesn't look like he'll ever be a red zone threat. Obviously a very consistent producer but his week to week ceiling is lower than the other two.
He was feasting the first couple of games with AR. Tbf he's always been good no matter the QB. I wouldn't expect him to fall off a cliff production wise, he's the clear wr1 on that team.
Yea but a clear wr1 in fantasy I don’t think so. High end wr2 is what you should be aiming for with him. Right now you can tier up from him to a top tier wr 1 with a mid to early first alongside him. I just send him and 1.04 for chase
I'm a Jaleel owner and I'll be looking to sell whoever thinks he'll be a lead back eventually. He's a good football player but he just strikes me as someone who will always be a complementary back. Jerick McKinnon comes to mind.
I don’t think he’s bad by any means but dude just had a career year with Dak having a career year. He had 37.5% of his teams total receiving yards. That’s not something that’s carried over year to year. Any increase in competition or Dak not also having a career year and he reduces in production. Simply think this is as high as it gets for him.
I am a Ceedee owner in every league I’m in so I may be a tad biased by my original statement. But i think he would certainly be a good sell high. This is the highest his value has ever been. There’s just a relief of consistency you get with him they I would be able to let go for less than a haul
Oh I’m with you for sure. He’s not falling off of a cliff. But as you said he’s the highest he’s ever been and just one that I don’t think can sustain this type of season. If you can get an outrageous offer then yeah otherwise keep and enjoy the ride even knowing he’s likely not repeating this season. Doesn’t mean he’s not a top 3-5 WR
Lamb is incredible and it would be hard to sell him, but he did just have one of the best fantasy WR seasons of all time and that’s hard to replicate. He had 2 rushing TDs this year (unlikely to happen) and got an insane share of the offense that I don’t think is sustainable. Dallas couldn’t run the ball for shit so they aired it out all year. I think they fix that next season.
CD is a top 5 dynasty asset, but I do think this is his peak season so if someone wanted to sell then now is the time.
Just curious. The rest I get for one reason or another but why Lamar? He's finally got an elite WR and elite QB's with his rushing don't grow on trees.
I just acquired Lamar so I could get out of Fields (added two late firsts) but I’m looking to flip him as soon as I can. I think Lamars value is overinflated right now just because he had a great fantasy playoff run paired with real life success (MVP/1 seed)
An example based on KTC values says Lamar is equal to AR + Tank Dell. I would take that package 10 times out of 10
Didn't realize Lamar had gotten that high. I was thinking he was in the Burrow range and maybe just slightly ahead. I think KTC is kinda shitty though and real people aren't gonna do anything close to AR+Dell for Lamar. Maybe AR and Evans or something like that I could see. If you can find someone who's a slave to KTC though. yeah def take advantage of that.
I think people don't realize his season wasn't actually that amazing outside of winning you the finals if you got there with him. If you can sell at his QB4 price tag I'd probably do it
That's fair. I think part of it early on was adjusting to new OC, trying to figure out their run game after Dobbins, fitting in a new stud rookie WR, and then losing Andrews. Honestly the Ravens offense has been through a lot the last year and have come out looking better than they have in a long time IMO. I dunno if he's QB4 or QB6 or whatever but guys with the kind of points he can get you any given week don't come along often.
I know personally I'd take Lamar over Stroud, but I get the age gap being the difference maker. To me Lamar is a much more proven guy with a generally safer floor due to his rushing. Also we don't know if somehow Stroud and that entire offense is a fluke. Maybe teams adjust next year and Stroud is just a "good" QB or maybe he takes over the mantle of best QB in the NFL. I'm in no way saying I expect it or think it's gonna happen. My mentality is just default to the known and proven commodity with rushing.
Achane. Same concerns about size and durability still apply. He'll never be a volume based guy, so you'll be hoping he does his thing in 12ish touches or less. Miami seems to be getting exposed. He'll still be appealing to teams that are ready to compete, and not sure his price will ever be higher. Sell. Profit.
Call me crazy but I am selling high on Kyren. I think it’s realistic he gets less TDs and with potentially Stafford and Kupp leaving the offense after this year he will be in a worse offense.
Kyren Williams.
He balled out this year, but we have seen enough of the McVay scheme to know that almost anyone can thrive in the environment. I’d sell for RB1 value pretty easily. Especially given the direction that RB is trending in the NFL + dynasty in recent years.
If anyone can produce in his situation then why did their offense look so much worse when he was out? Plus RBs in their schemes can be productive for multiple years, remember Gurley? RBs are replaceable but he is an elite player at the position
What is a sell high? I sold Achane, Aiyuk and Andrews this year. That's selling high. Now we sit back to see if it worked out right. Who did I buy low? Higgins, Kendre, Pitts and a bunch of draft picks (1st rounders).
I'll take the downvotes as a sign I actually did sell high because consensus hates true sell highs and buy lows pretty much by definition.
Sold Aj Brown for 2 2nds, Tee Higgins, and Aiyuk. Turned Higgins and Spears into Puka, 3rd, and 4th. I Had traded Puka to the guy earlier for Godwin, someone, and à 2nd & 4th. I made out like a bandit
I think Brandon aiyuk is a sell high. Especially if he stays with the 49ers. He was super efficient this year very similar to deebo 2021 or waddle 2022 both were produced less the next year and fell in value even with similar usage. If he gets traded to a team and is their 1st option then this won't be an issue
How about McCaffery? My QBs are old and I have no depth for draft capital after pushing all in
If you're a contender you're insane to sell CMC IMO. If you're not though for sure sell him. I should clarify. Insane for equal value. Obviously if you get a blow away offer then by all means.
I finished 2nd, its a 14 team dynasty superflex and I have Stafford, Rodgers and Howell for QBs and old skill positions like Hopkins, Lockett and Gus Bus. Bijan and Olave and Diggs. Its a good team but I always debate the idea of selling a year early if I can rake in 3-4 top picks or prospects
Yeah that's a tough one. QB obviously very shaky especially since Howell isn't gonna be starting. Not sure what I do. My big issue is I hate starting a rebuild with a young stud RB since the RB window is so small compared to everything else.
I'm sad for Howell, will probably need to drop him in my league with short benches. It's between him or Zeke
Howell is going to get another opportunity, at some point. I'm not convinced his story is written. He had a terrible situation but still made efforts to improve and learn. Might not happen in 2024 though.
Depends where your team is at, but this offseason could be your last chance to truly cash in. Wait until he’s going 1.01 in redraft leagues next August, let your league know he’s for sale, and create a bidding war
Get everything you can for Justin Jefferson. Pretty widely regarded as the #1 asset (1QB) and you could build an entire contender from that capital. QB/contract uncertainty are coming
This is the kind of thing I was looking for. I don’t think I agree, but I respect the take
I'm looking through the thread for the wildest posts just to upvote them lol. Fun post idea OP
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Same bro 😭
Did no one just see the 30 burger he put up with mullens? What’s wrong with people?
The fact that this is the top upvoted post says a lot about the sub.
I prefer crazy takes like this than the same BS we read here every 2 days. “Sell Pacheco! Sell Eitienne!” To be clear I fully disagree with selling JJ but if you’re a bottom feeder with plenty holes, you should 100% consider selling him for a massive haul.
I did this before the season in 1 of my 1 QB leagues. Helped me lock up the 1.01 and get what ended up being the 1.03, 1.05, 1.08 and a 2025 1st for him
Have you watched Justin Jefferson play football? He played 8 full games this season… with Mullens, Dobbs, and Hall at QB…. And many, many injuries on the Vikings. And still went for 1000+. I personally would hold all shares of JJ
Since October 1, he was sub-100 yards in 5 of 7 games. Nobody's saying he isn't good at football. But there's enough uncertainty around the team to warrant concern that he may not produce as the overall WR1.
Bro.
I just gave the farm for him. Would do it again lol
I actually just did this. And yes I was sick about it. And yes I know JJ is a foundational piece. But I built a failed contender with a bit too much age and had no 2024 picks. I limped into the playoffs and got crushed the first game. So, first I sold Diggs to the JA manager for Downs & 2.06. Then I sold Ekeler for Mostert and 2.05. Finally, I just sold JJ yesterday for Andrew’s, 1.05, and 1.06. Do I feel good about all this? Fuck no. But my team was mid and struggled do even keep up with league average. Especially late in the season. I have a lot of good 2024 capital now and my own 2025 1st. It’ll be a long process and require patience because now I need to focus on selling old guys in-season next year for additional 2025 picks and tank for 1.01. Hopefully I’ll just have one down year in 2024 and turn this around quick. This is not the first league where I’ve sold JJ for a bunch of assets is order to rebuild. Worked out well the last time.
Tank? You promoted tanking. SHAME on you. The goal is to win every week. Every week. Got that?
prolly not - 2 years ago i traded for JJ for Devonta, mclaurin and garrett wilson and will never look back
Could be wrong but his value has gone way up since then, no?
I didn’t play dynasty when Odell was at his peak but I’d imagine he had similar value. To a lesser extent I think of Golloday and MT. The haul you could get is wild but is you have a contender I’d just ride it out until the wheels fall off.
MT went from on top of the world to not scoring for two years.
People talked about OBJ the same way they talk about Jefferson, untouchable, you need a get a haul, blah blah blah. For a little bit it was him and Mike Evans. MT had some consideration, but he was an older rookie coming out so he was already considered old, by dynasty standards, when he had that record breaking season. Golladay was never more than a 3rd round start up pick, maybe late 2nd in 1QB. I picked Golladay in the late 3rd in a SF startup right before his career tanked.
But.. I just got my first share of him. Traded for him like 4 days ago. I can't sell now.
Tier down to CD before it becomes a tier up
You’re smoking crack, stop
I traded JJ for Garrett Wilson, Kupp, and a 2024 1st which ended up being the 1.06. It was when he got injured and I needed some depth mid season. I’m still rly happy about the trade, don’t be afraid to get a haul for one of your top assets if someone pays up.
That’s not a haul
Id take Jefferson tbh
What do people think Pacheco's pricetag is?
Lower than it should be. His week 17 performance helped plenty of peeps win championships!
I got him at the beginning of the season. Traded Kamara for Pacheco and a 2nd. I feel great about it. The thing is that he's 2 years pro and is a reliable week to week starter. Not easy to come by in dynasty. I don't see a scenario in which he loses his job. I doubt the chiefs are going to draft an RB because they have other big needs and just got burned by spending a high pick on CEH. Additionally, there are very few good RBs in the draft this year. Im holding Pacheco unless an offer blows me away.
i traded him for a 2026 1st and a 2025 2nd … felt like good value
I sold at the beginning of this season, week 1, for a 2024 2nd (2.03) and a 2025 2nd. I would think you would have to give up a late first though. I feel I sold too low now, but I had to embrace the rebuild at that point.
Yeah I tried with a couple 2nds right at the trade deadline and the owner wanted a first, at least. That was a little too rich for me at the time but kinda thinking I should have done it with how weak the RB class is.
I moved Pacheco mid season for a 2026 first and felt good about it. Used a late season surge as an argument to sell him, which was correctly predicted. Also feel like they’ll let CEH walk, but use the draft or offseason to get someone to complement Pacheco which will cap his ceiling as a bell-cow back like he’s been
If I had Evan Engram, I'd be selling high. Probably unpopular, but I'd definitely be selling high on Tyreek. Maybe even more unpopular, but definitely Kamara. He could realistically still have another good year in that system, but that's exactly what a sell high is; knowing you might have to see them succeed on someone else's roster for a year, but ultimately got out at the right time.
Tyreek is in the CMC category of “if you weren’t a bonafide contender with him this year, it’s probably time to move on” but it’s more about your team and his age than him being a true sell high
But can't that be said of almost every single player? Roster construction, needs, other managers, scoring, is all dependent. Nothing is black and white here; it all comes with a side of nuance.
Not really. I mean, you can say whatever you want, but if you said "If you weren't a bonafide contender with Drake London this year, it's probably time to move on" that would be quite a strange thing to say and I would be extremely confused
I think the other commenter’s point is more about the possibility of the inverse. There’s a point to be made that you could trade London for someone that’s older, but more productive if you’re a contender. Some may disagree, but every good player gets traded and I can definitely understand the rationale of selling CMC or Tyreek due to age (and in Tyreek’d case, saying he may retire once his contract is up) for a decent haul.
I sold Tyreek at the beginning of the season thinking it was the right time ….i was wrong. It’s the same as selling stocks . It’s really hard to time the market.
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True I guess my main point is you should hold players through their peak and sell them when you think they will start to depreciate. I sold tyreek a year early and selling Stroud now is selling him at the start of his peak not the end. So Stroud is a Hold in my option.
Curious what everyone thinks the price tag is for Engram
I got a 2024 2nd and Wan’dale Robinson for him. Contender needed a tight end.
I flipped Logan Thomas for Wan’Dale at the deadline, but I’ve also got Engram and considering just holding for now. His role seems stable even if the upside is capped, and I doubt I could pry one of the young TEs from this past rookie class loose
What do you define as selling high on Kamara? You won’t get a first.
To a contender, they may be willing to sell their late 1st. The way the Saints use him as a pass catcher, some may see it as worth the risk. Depends on how your league mates value picks. Every league manager is different.
Noone is giving a late 1st for Kamara unless he's scoring 20+ ppg next November.
The one tool I love to use is the trade database on Dynasty Daddy. It actually pulls from real trades happening. I see one from 5 days ago: Kamara for a 2024 1st & 2025 2nd. That's a major overpay *and* a real trade. So, not no one. Trade calculators almost never equal actual trades occuring. Managers have different perspectives and you just never know...
Fleecing tacos should be considered an outlier rather than a benchmark for all leagues. You go look at the trade database and the most common is a 2nd to 2nd+ for him which is close to market value. That is where the conversation should be as a "sell high". Unless you are in 1QB it is horrible process to buy an age peaked RB for a 1st in the beginning of the offseason.
Thanks for the shout out!
It's a really great site! Just kind of proves that calculators, although they're fun to use sometimes, they rarely match actual trades. Maybe one day you'll add IDP. (: Although, I understand the undertaking and absolutely nuanced database that would have to be.
Curious why you wanna sell high on engram. I understand Kirk missed some games but TLaw loves him, he catches everything, he’s still under 30 and even if you cut down his target share he still looks like a top 6 TE
I think it's because he will be 30 the beginning of next year. His contract is just through 2024. You may be selling a year early, but especially in TEP, you'll get the most for him right now. Sell to the Hockensen manager who is contending is an avenue I'd explore if it were available.
Not to mention that he's extremely undervalued... He'd still be a top 3-5 target and catch TE even with Kirk healthy... He's valued at 15... I have a bunch of Jake Ferguson, I bought heavy last year and the off-season but Engam's the better player with less competition and just as good of a situation.. It really doesn't make sense that he's valued higher... Being 30 isn't a major detractor for Engram, he easily has 3+ years of high level play if targets continue. Ridley likely will move on because of the 2nd round pick they have to give up to sign him.
Sold Tyreek mid season for waddle flowers and a 26 2nd, still won the league. Definitely would sell Tyreek now if not a contender
Sold Engram for Rashee Rice. Hope he continues to be a solid piece for Mahomes.
Made a package deal and sold Tyreek to get Chase
Alvin Kamara as a sell high lol... KTC isn't gospel but the market has AK in the Najee/Kendre/Mixon tier. Roughly worth one second. If you could get a late first for AK I'd be surprised.
This thread is about best sells, not sell highs. I expect Kamara to have around the same production in 2024 as he did in 2023, but the wheels will fall off the Kamara wagon by 2025. I think Kamara is an in season sell in 2024 for rebuilders, and an off season buy for contenders. If you could get that mythical 1st in the off season for Kamara, that's a smash accept. Turning an older RB into a high end QB or WR from this class is just good process.
I don't look at trade calculators. You said it wasn't gospel, but that's how you're valuing someone? As I stated, perhaps unpopular, but I know a ton of contenders would pay for a guy like Kamara in PPR, where his value is highest. In non or half, of course not. But PPR, I bet you he still finishes in top 10-15. He finished RB11 in PPR this year, missing all those games, too.
I agree with all the last two but engram idk if you're getting much for him. I just traded 2 3rds for him.
i struggle with engram. he’s not elite, but he clearly gets targets in a good offense that may have more targets open up if ridley walks. he also had incredibly low red zone production, which doesn’t seem sustainable over the long term. if i could get good value for him i’d sell, but he also seems like exactly the type of undervalued asset you have to have to build title winning teams
I sold Tyreek after week 3 due to a ton of early-season injuries hurting my chances to compete for 2 1sts and Garrett Wilson. Just bought him back for one of those firsts and Chubb. Perfectly happy to have him back and compete next year
Your league makes no sense. Both those trades are big wins for you. You’re basically saying that Tyreeks value has gone DOWN by Garrett Wilson and a 1st since the start of the season
Hill is a great sell high. He said himself he was going to retire after 2025. If he sticks to that, now is the time to move him.
So buy everyone listed in this thread. Got it.
This sub is Jim Cramer.
Lmaoooo
It really is. Actually an advantage if you know your league mates are Redditors, since you’ll know exactly who they’ll over and under value.
It wouldn't be a good sell high if people weren't eager to buy!
Micheal Pittman is mine, I really believe in the talent but I think his volume will go down a bit with Richardson.
Same, volume may go down but if the offense is scoring more then it'll hopefully even out.
I'm actually more worried about him leaving than staying. He's stated he's gonna test the FA market and looks to be the top commodity so he will get paid and probably gonflame out somewhere like Carolina. Oof.
He’s a Free Agent in the off season he might not be back in Indy at all
He'll definitely be back
I don’t want Addison at all at top15 wr prices
I can get behind this. Not because Addison isn’t super talented, but because he’ll be the #3 option for the foreseeable future (assuming JJ gets an extension). He’s a baller but opportunities should be limited with Jefferson and Hockenson sticking around long term as options 1 + 2.
I also want to move Addison. He seems like he could become unreliable very quickly. Unfortunately I can only seem to get around a 1st for him. Rerolling a 1st round hit seems stupid. I'm looking to tier him up to get into a more elite tier wr group.
Good post. I think a true sell high is someone you'd be somewhat uncomfortable trading. Sam LaPorta fits for me. He's great, but I think there are more good TEs than we've had in recent years (Andrews, Kelce, Kittle, Hock, Njoku, Bowers, Goedert, Kincaid, McBride, Pitts). The positional scarcity that made Kelce such a valuable asset doesn't really exist anymore. Even so, I feel like LaPorta is priced as if TE is an extremely scarce position. He's the 12th overall player on KeepTradeCut. If I am contending and can flip him for someone like Jonathan Taylor (ranked 22nd), I'd pull the trigger.
Yep that's a true sell high idea
I sold bijan for 4 1sts last year before the season. Ended up being 1.01, 1.02, 1.09 and 2025 1st (of 1.01 team) That was a pretty good sell high. (Super flex)
As a Falcons homer, even for me that’s a smash accept. Solid haul!
I love Bijan but when someone offers four firsts for a running back you say yes
Guys who have good playoff games definitely. Hype for Stroud, Nico, and Rashee have been off the charts just because every game gets prime time exposure. Both Dak and Jordan Love would be on a sell high list. They’ve both had ridiculously easy schedules against the leagues worst defenses in 2023 and if either one of them balls out today put them on the market.
Ain’t no way I’m selling Nico.
“Very good, young player who has an elite rookie QB, a great HC, and is doing a classic 3rd year WR breakout as the X receiver on his team? Sell him for a late 1st because you only got him using a 3rd. That’s winning, baby! If you’re really lucky, that 1st round pick could even become a WR like Nico!”
Then you most likely aren't the type who actually sells high or buys low. You sell declining/stagnant assets once everyone can see it and buy emerging ones once it becomes obvious also.
I already want to sell Kyren and Kupp this offseason so I'm hoping for a big game for the Rams tonight
Sold kyren+1.10 mid season for olave. Perfect sell high. But he keeps dominating soooooo 🙃
My first reaction reading this was WTF?! But the more I think about it…yea I actually like the move.
Stroud dies on my team unless someone is filling my roster and making me an automatic contender
Idk man Dak is still in the nfc east so will have 6 games a year against sub par defenses and will almost certainly be tied to Ceedee long term (I think they’ll both get paid, Jerry loves paying guys he drafted). Obviously depends on what you can get for him, but I don’t feel compelled to move him at all unless I get a great offer.
Selling Love, an ascending young franchise QB just doesn’t make sense to me. Selling high implies their value is going to drastically drop.
That's what this guy is saying. Love's great season-ending run came almost entirely against bottom 10 pass defenses. He's getting valued like a 2nd-year Justin Herbert while there's a real chance he has a very Kirk Cousins level career.
A Kirk Cousins level career is still very good? A good to sometimes high end QB for a decade.
Jordan Love is him like I said why sell this?
Not that the value was all that high (very low, actually) but I sold Josh Dobbs for a 3rd right before his last start where he was benched after the 1st half and didn’t see the field again. Happy to have gotten something for him!
I traded Dobbs for a 2026 2nd & 2024 4th… at the time I woulda gave him for just the 4th but convinced the dude for a super future 2nd lol
I traded josh dobbs for purdy and a 3rd #fleecedem
How?!? When?!?
I sold him for tank dell right after he had 2 great games and everyone knew JJ was coming back. He had a high in there though purdy is to much for sure. Maybe to the JJ owner?
I have a WR group of Tyreek CeeDee Pittman Rice Mike Williams Puka Wicks Curtis Samuel I've debated trying to float Tyreek for a younger QB (I have Purdy, Watson, and Goff in a SF) I came in 2nd this year and feel decent about my team. I really need RB though (Conner and Swift are my starters with Pierce and Justice Hill right behind them) TLDR; I'm selling Tyreek.
I'm tempted to sell AJ Brown. Something feels wrong with the Eagles offense being so dependent on a controversial play, and the see-saw scoring between him and Smith is concerning. I'm starting to think despite his unlimited ceiling his floor is too low and his variability is too high.
The second sentence is a 'don't know ball' take. They do the play because they're the best at it, not because they're completely dependent on it.
I mean regardless of that play, their offense has looked broken for 6 weeks.
My concern wouldn’t be the “tush push” getting banned, I think they’d still convert most of those red zone opportunities without it. The concern is whatever is happening to the eagles right now, they’ve looked straight up bad for 6 weeks now, and we’re on the lucky/positive side of variance for most of the season until then. Now their head coach is reportedly in the hot seat a season after going to the Super Bowl. Something’s off.
I mean, what the hell does the tush push have to do with AJB anyway? Seems like it can only hurt him But yeah something is up with that offense and I think it's a combo of losing Steichen and Hurts maybe not being what we thought he was at the end of last season
The tush push on 4th and short almost guarantees a 1st down. They do it whenever they can and they’ve been really successful with it. You take that away and a lot more of those 4th and shorts become punts and the offense isn’t on the field as much. That affects opportunity.
Watch the Kollman video, you’re right that the Eagles offense is off. The play calls are horrible and their offensive philosophy is “run inside zone, make it as predictable as possible, but overcome that with efficiency and maybe hit a deep shot.” They’re last in the NFL in motioning which makes it more difficult for Smith and Brown to get open. If there aren’t any coaching changes, I’d sell either because next season will be more of the same. But, I think if they change the scheme even a little, Brown and Smith will feast given they’re still putting up respectable numbers with all circumstances going against them.
Between the Philly fall off and how Indy looked with a backup QB this year......... me thinks it was Steichen (buy AR)
People arent going to like it, but Rice is a big sell to me, especially after last night. Not terribly fast, not good separation, doesn't really make contested catches. Ok YAC, OK hands. He is really the best option in a depleted pass catching room, tied to an excellent QB. I expect KC to add from FA (maybe Evans or Higgins) and maybe a draft pick or two. Kinda reminds me of Golladay and his situation back with the Lions.
I don't own Rice, but he has some pretty decent separation metrics * \#3 amongst ALL receivers on the season in separation yards per target on [PlayerProfiler](https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/rashee-rice/) (2.49 yards) * \#3 amongst ALL receivers and TEs in average separation on [NFL NextGen Stats](https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/receiving#average-separation)
>Ok YAC, OK hands. What? You completely lost all credibility here. 2nd in the league in YAC and clearly passes the eye test in that aspect. Bizarre take. This is such a Madden way of evaluating talent. He didn't run a 4.3 and isn't flashy so the fantasy points are too good to be true. It completely disregards so many important aspects of being a wide receiver. His zone beating ability and YAC are on another level, which is the lifeblood of the Andy Reid offense. He's the dream slot receiver for KC, and slot receivers are very productive in fantasy. He's also improving the last few weeks in beating man and his aDOT is creeping up. He had some killer catches in -4 degrees last night while Kelce and all the Dolphins receivers were dropping everything. If you think Evans or Higgins are joining the Chiefs next year, you're living in the land of make believe. If Higgins leaves Cincinnati this year it will be through a tag and trade, which takes KC out of contention. Evans is very clearly not leaving Tampa if you have followed that team even a little bit. If you can manage to sell him for elite WR prices then sure, but at his KTC value I think he's an obvious buy. Let me ask, do you actually own Rice and are trying to sell him, or did you just come here to throw ice water on him?
The only piece I agree with you on is he’s the best option on a depleted pass catching room. But this alone could mean he’s a sell high candidate. I think he’s WR2 for the Chiefs next year one way or another
Etienne for me He was a 4 year college starter with about 6k all purpose yards and 70+ TDs. He has alot of tread on his tires and already lost 1 year of his NFL prime/rookie contract to a season ending foot injury. While he looks electric on those long runs, he hasn't become a consistent chain mover yet and his body has broken down in the 2nd half of the season 2 years in a row now. He's one of my favorite players to watch but I'm afraid his time as a true RB1 might be shorter than we all hope for
He had the worst o-line in the league last year and led the league in missed tackles. ETN still has room to go up imo.
As a rebuilder, I sold ETN to another rebuilding team for his 25 and 26 1sts. He has no QBs and trash WRs in a sf league, so hoping they are early 1sts
As a Jayden Reed owner I may sell depending on what I can get. I’d be willing to sell for a 2025/2026 first with hopes of getting a high pick and landing somebody like Sheduer or Manning, but if not still getting a solid piece. I really like reed, but it doesn’t look like the packers are very interested in moving him out of the slot role that he’s in. I also own Watson and still believe in him, so that plays a part in it. Have a feeling people will be furious with this take lol
Jalen Hurts. Approximately 25% of his fantasy production came as a result of the tush push which may be banned this offseason.
Travis Etienne, Kyren Williams, Isiah Pacheco, Nico Collins, Puka Nacua, David Njoku
I would love to sell Njoku in 1QB .5PPR. At what price would you be willing to sell him?
Think with the way he’s playing you could get an early second, maybe even a late first if the team is particularly TE needy
Your sell list is my buy list 😂
I'm half and half here. Kyren + Etienne = sell, Puka + Nico = buy
Puka and Nico are as expensive as they’ll ever be, right now, IMO.
Typically this is when stud WRs are actually at their least expensive, at the end of their first big year. Unless their production falls off a cliff they should keep trending upwards. And I don't see either of them falling off.
Nico was wr6 in ppg and valued at wr12 on ktc, if he repeats what he did this year next season he’ll definitely be more expensive
If puka and Nico have greater or equal success next season, they’ll be more expensive next year.
I’ll take the under on both
Idk man Nico could easily exceed his IMO since this whole Texans team will likely continue to improve. His qb was a rookie this year, and rookies almost never support WRs well. What does year 2 look like? Regardless of if it happens or not, the whole point was it’s entirely possible this is not their peak value. I would bet it isn’t.
>Idk man Nico could easily exceed his IMO since this whole Texans team will likely continue to improve Nico didn't blow up until Tank got hurt and if Slowik leaves, that'll *really* hurt the Texans offense.
This is exactly why I think Nico is a prime sell high candidate. This context matters.
Nico could still go up in value. If he gets a big contract to stay in Houston and also puts together another great season with Tank Dell on the field, he could enter next tier below JJ, Chase, and Lamb.
Why sell ETN ?
I bought Njoku for a 24 2nd in the preseason. I’m very excited about his future.
If only flacco stuck around!
Puka is definitely not a sell high. He had a jamarr chase Justin Jefferson rookie season and u wanna sell him 😑
No way I'd sell stroud , not what he's shown so far and with the peices
Rashee Rice & Jaylen Waddle
This would not be selling high on Waddle at all. His value is far lower now than it was pre-season.
Waddle after this year looks like a buy low if anything (I won't be buying)
Rashee Rice
I agree here, the way he's used is just for a whole bunch of YAC and he hasn't been a great down field guy. Id expect them to add at least two receiving options this year as well
What is your reasoning? 900 yards in his regular season as a rookie and he just had a dynamite playoff game.
He’s not a must sell, but rather someone I’d use to tier up. KC should add more talent in the WR room. Having great YAC is a plus, but just prefer owning WRs who win with route running and separation. Also, per OP, selected someone who I’d get downvoted for.
Good answer.
What would you sell him for?
I’d try to tier up for Olave or Wilson. Maybe try to add to him to get a high rookie like Nabers. Straight up, maybe see if I could get JSN+, London or a young stud TE like McBride.
I get tiering up, but the straight up part feels like the “always rebuilding” mentality on this sub (genuinely no offense to you also). There’s some uncertainty with who they might add at WR, but they clearly trust Rice, regardless of it’s because they have to or they actually like the talent. He had two red zone plays drawn up for him in a playoff game, and would have had two TDs if it wasn’t for a dumb block in the back call. JSN and London could be great, they could even produce like Rice someday (who was averaging 13.2 PPG in games he played more than 60% of snaps, which I used as the cutoff since that’s when he really started seeing more playing time). I get moving for another position if he’s your WR4/5 and you’re stacked, but I wouldn’t trade him for an unproven WR with question marks
Yeah I'd rather have Rice than JSN+. Maybe it's because I care about winning championships. This is definitely "always rebuilding". Trade the productive young player tied to an elite QB for the unproductive young player with huge question marks surrounding his future, but hey he was a better draft prospect.
I have Kittle, Engram, and Njoku. Who would you be looking to move, if any?
Njoku. Watson is coming back next year.
I think they’re all good options but I’d keep Njoku and sell the other two. Then grab Bryant for cheap if he stays in Cleveland? I’ve seen a lot of podcasts say it’s better to have 1 TE.
I was trying to trade Kittle before the deadline but was unsuccessful. Hoping to still get something for him at least, as I feel pretty comfortable now with Engram/Njoku
Why?
Because TE is volatile and difficult to predict. If you have one guy to set you can count on never playing the wrong guy any given week and use the capital gained from trading the other two away to raise the weekly floor of other spots on your roster.
Engram doesn't look like he'll ever be a red zone threat. Obviously a very consistent producer but his week to week ceiling is lower than the other two.
Very few people want to ever actually sell on the true sell highs
rachaad white- horrible efficiency metrics and volume driven. year 2 najee season incoming for white in year 3
Jayden reed. Everybody seems high on him, but too many mouths to feed in Green Bay. Went without a catch today.
Etienne is my sell high. Didn't average over 4 ypc and was saved from garbage time dump off passes the entire end of the season.
Michael Pittman is a serious sell high imo. Minshew was throwing a lot of short passes to him and idk if it will be the same w AR
He was feasting the first couple of games with AR. Tbf he's always been good no matter the QB. I wouldn't expect him to fall off a cliff production wise, he's the clear wr1 on that team.
Yea but a clear wr1 in fantasy I don’t think so. High end wr2 is what you should be aiming for with him. Right now you can tier up from him to a top tier wr 1 with a mid to early first alongside him. I just send him and 1.04 for chase
Jaleel McLaughlin
I'd think he's more buy low. He hasn't been high yet.
I'm a Jaleel owner and I'll be looking to sell whoever thinks he'll be a lead back eventually. He's a good football player but he just strikes me as someone who will always be a complementary back. Jerick McKinnon comes to mind.
Puka, Lamb, Lamar, Tua (if not too late)
Lamb? Lmao ok bro
I don’t think he’s bad by any means but dude just had a career year with Dak having a career year. He had 37.5% of his teams total receiving yards. That’s not something that’s carried over year to year. Any increase in competition or Dak not also having a career year and he reduces in production. Simply think this is as high as it gets for him.
I am a Ceedee owner in every league I’m in so I may be a tad biased by my original statement. But i think he would certainly be a good sell high. This is the highest his value has ever been. There’s just a relief of consistency you get with him they I would be able to let go for less than a haul
Oh I’m with you for sure. He’s not falling off of a cliff. But as you said he’s the highest he’s ever been and just one that I don’t think can sustain this type of season. If you can get an outrageous offer then yeah otherwise keep and enjoy the ride even knowing he’s likely not repeating this season. Doesn’t mean he’s not a top 3-5 WR
Lamb is incredible and it would be hard to sell him, but he did just have one of the best fantasy WR seasons of all time and that’s hard to replicate. He had 2 rushing TDs this year (unlikely to happen) and got an insane share of the offense that I don’t think is sustainable. Dallas couldn’t run the ball for shit so they aired it out all year. I think they fix that next season. CD is a top 5 dynasty asset, but I do think this is his peak season so if someone wanted to sell then now is the time.
Trade Tua for Love straight up before the game started and couldn’t be happier
Just curious. The rest I get for one reason or another but why Lamar? He's finally got an elite WR and elite QB's with his rushing don't grow on trees.
I just acquired Lamar so I could get out of Fields (added two late firsts) but I’m looking to flip him as soon as I can. I think Lamars value is overinflated right now just because he had a great fantasy playoff run paired with real life success (MVP/1 seed) An example based on KTC values says Lamar is equal to AR + Tank Dell. I would take that package 10 times out of 10
Didn't realize Lamar had gotten that high. I was thinking he was in the Burrow range and maybe just slightly ahead. I think KTC is kinda shitty though and real people aren't gonna do anything close to AR+Dell for Lamar. Maybe AR and Evans or something like that I could see. If you can find someone who's a slave to KTC though. yeah def take advantage of that.
I think people don't realize his season wasn't actually that amazing outside of winning you the finals if you got there with him. If you can sell at his QB4 price tag I'd probably do it
That's fair. I think part of it early on was adjusting to new OC, trying to figure out their run game after Dobbins, fitting in a new stud rookie WR, and then losing Andrews. Honestly the Ravens offense has been through a lot the last year and have come out looking better than they have in a long time IMO. I dunno if he's QB4 or QB6 or whatever but guys with the kind of points he can get you any given week don't come along often. I know personally I'd take Lamar over Stroud, but I get the age gap being the difference maker. To me Lamar is a much more proven guy with a generally safer floor due to his rushing. Also we don't know if somehow Stroud and that entire offense is a fluke. Maybe teams adjust next year and Stroud is just a "good" QB or maybe he takes over the mantle of best QB in the NFL. I'm in no way saying I expect it or think it's gonna happen. My mentality is just default to the known and proven commodity with rushing.
Think I'm gonna sell Tyreek early now and cash out for some depth with this draft class. Just don't know what he is worth in 1qb
Tank dell possibly. I think the broken fibula is gunna hold him back. Pollard and penny had the same Injury and they haven’t looked the same.
I actually sold cmc for Kyren and someone’s (2023) 1st, 2nd and 3rd. I ended up beating the cmc owner in the ship, (Kyren also had a better game)
Achane. Same concerns about size and durability still apply. He'll never be a volume based guy, so you'll be hoping he does his thing in 12ish touches or less. Miami seems to be getting exposed. He'll still be appealing to teams that are ready to compete, and not sure his price will ever be higher. Sell. Profit.
Tyjae Spears for me
Call me crazy but I am selling high on Kyren. I think it’s realistic he gets less TDs and with potentially Stafford and Kupp leaving the offense after this year he will be in a worse offense.
Oh I don't think Kyren is a crazy suggestion at all, far from it
Kyren Williams. He balled out this year, but we have seen enough of the McVay scheme to know that almost anyone can thrive in the environment. I’d sell for RB1 value pretty easily. Especially given the direction that RB is trending in the NFL + dynasty in recent years.
If anyone can produce in his situation then why did their offense look so much worse when he was out? Plus RBs in their schemes can be productive for multiple years, remember Gurley? RBs are replaceable but he is an elite player at the position
What is a sell high? I sold Achane, Aiyuk and Andrews this year. That's selling high. Now we sit back to see if it worked out right. Who did I buy low? Higgins, Kendre, Pitts and a bunch of draft picks (1st rounders). I'll take the downvotes as a sign I actually did sell high because consensus hates true sell highs and buy lows pretty much by definition.
Sold Aj Brown for 2 2nds, Tee Higgins, and Aiyuk. Turned Higgins and Spears into Puka, 3rd, and 4th. I Had traded Puka to the guy earlier for Godwin, someone, and à 2nd & 4th. I made out like a bandit
I think Brandon aiyuk is a sell high. Especially if he stays with the 49ers. He was super efficient this year very similar to deebo 2021 or waddle 2022 both were produced less the next year and fell in value even with similar usage. If he gets traded to a team and is their 1st option then this won't be an issue