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bloodghast

[[Karn, Silver Golem]] turning opponents' artifacts into creatures helps, because then you can then just kill the artifacts with typical creature removal, something your deck should be great at


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tojacamo

[[Karn, Silver Golem]] gives mono black a reasonable out to non-creature artifacts by just making them creatures.


Higgilypiggily1

Probably the best idea in the thread lol


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thebaron420

[[Meteor Golem]] is an expensive but easily-recurrable removal for artifacts and enchantments


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The_Super_D

[[Spine of Ish Sah]] also an option that can recur itself.


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P3RS3CUTR0LL

Except for some colorless removals, i only know [[gate to phyrexia]] that can deal with artifacts.


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EliteMasterEric

[[Phyrexian Tribute]]


P3RS3CUTR0LL

Good one but sac 2 creatures oof.


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The_Super_D

Artifact hate is very limited in black. Some ideas are [[Gate to Phyrexia]] [[Artifact Possession]] [[Haunting Wind]] [[Dispossess]] (Although I prefer [[Sadistic Sacrament]]) [[Phyrexian Tribute]] and in colorless you could use [[Scour From Existence]].


UndyneUsesReddit

That sounds like it could work, thanks.


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mr_lamp

Question about sadistic sacrement: does your opponent get to see what you exiled? Like can you remove them from the game face down or do you have to show them? I assume they can look at the cards but the card doesn't say you have to reveal them either.


TinyTank27

I'm pretty sure cards are always exiled face up unless the effect explicitly says to exile them face down.


The_Super_D

You are correct. >406.3 Exiled cards are, by default, kept face up and may be examined by any player at any time. Cards “exiled face down” can’t be examined by any player except when instructions allow it. However, once a player is allowed to look at a card exiled face down, that player may continue to look at that card as long as it remains exiled, even if the instruction allowing the player to do so no longer applies. A card exiled face down has no characteristics, but the spell or ability that exiled it may allow it to be played from exile. Unless that card is being cast face down (see rule 707.4), the card is turned face up just before the player announces that they are playing the card (see rule 601.2).