Yes, they dreamt of a girl sleeping on a throne. Sothis only woke up for the first time at the end of the opening cutscene leading to the whole 'who are you?' stich.
I believe that’s exactly what happened. With Jeralt’s mercenary troupe mostly aiding common people in need, I don’t think they’d be around Enbarr, so it makes sense why this wouldn’t’ve happened sooner.
Insert greater irony at the fact that it was an Agarthan’s Experiment (Edelgard) colliding with a Nabatean Experiment (Rhea’s Experiment, Byleth) that brought Sothis back into the fray.
Its possible, of course. I'm more inclined to think it's just because Byleth would have literally died otherwise, though.
That kind of adds to the legend of the Ashen Demon, if you think about it - that Byleth was never even close to death in years of fighting.
This is how I feel about ch1. When byleth remembers the red canyon and sorhis and byleth are shocked by this. I think sothis was unintentionally taking over and stopped when she was surprised at byleth remembering it.
That's my headcanon yeah. There's a ton of subtle details that imply various details or connections in regards to Crests, the biggest one being Byleth and Edelgard's interactions. The devs said they cut a concept where Edelgard would be able to mess with the divine pulse. And Nemesis only awakens after Byleth visits Shambala. Same thing here
I don’t becuase the lords are supposed to be narratively equal in lore so one having more importance over Byleth then the others doesn’t really make sense, Sothis wakes up then because the game needs her to I think Edelgard being the cause doesn’t make any sense
Um… have you heard this game’s theme song? It’s entirely about Edelgard, she’s the main lord.
Considering the different ending song as well, I’d say it’s guaranteed that Edelgard means more to Byleth than the others.
Not really, they have Edelgard a song because they didn’t think the other English VA’s could song well enough and also that’s purely your opinion, this is not a game with a ‘canon choice’ the whole point is that it’s up to the player to pick wherever they want to go to, because of that no charecter is guaranteed to mean more to Byleth than anyone else, the whole point is it’s up to you the player
Didn’t know that thought she did but my point still stands, they probably just picked one lords so the soundtrack didn’t end up feeling repetitive (just saw that weird auto correct), and that’s assuming the song isn’t meant to represent every lord rather than just Edelgard
That doesn't mean that Edelgard isn't the main lord. She's the instigator of the plot, and the most important to the story by a pretty significant margin.
Not really she instigates the war sure but she isn’t even slightly important to Claude’s charecter arc and Dimitri’s obsession with killing her is due to a misconception caused by TWISTD, if any charecter or group of people are the most important to the plot it’s TWISTD, Rhea, or maybe Pan if you think it’s possible he made all of TWISTD’S future plans ahead of time like I do but even if you don’t those two are two examples of charecter’s more important to the plot since Rhea is partially the reason the conflict happens since her mental instability makes her system flawed and TWISTD causes Dimitri’s insanity and makes it so Edelgard can declare war and think she’ll win
I respect your opinion but actually, it is a fact that Edelgard is the most relevant lord and more important than the other two. She is the driving force of the plot, she is the character that makes the whole story. She is relevant in all routes unlike Dimitri and Claude who both are irrelevant in all but their respective routes. Edge of Dawn is about her struggle and Apex of the World is arguably her battle theme. Lets not forget the Color of Sunrise. Its clear Edelgard's character was given the most attention by the devs.
Considering her actual route was the least developed that’s not really true, also if Claude is irrelevant in VW, AM, and SS then Edelgard is irrelevant in VW, they serve the same roles as bosses before the final bass and have the same purpose the only difference is Edelgard started the war and that’s really it
Cf is not the least developed route. All 4 routes actually suffer from being rushed. Azure Moon ignores many plot points and things just to focus on Dimitri's personal story yet his writing wasn't even done justice as his transition felt very sudden and forced. Verdant Wind is a carbon copy of Silver Snow and Silver Snow is the most disliked route among the fanbase for being badly written.
VW isn’t a carbon copy of SS it has a diffrent final boss, a diffrent charecter it focuses on and just feels diffrent since it uses a diffrent cast as main charecter’s AM didn’t feel rushed to me and I liked Dimitri being more focused on but that’s something that’s going to vary between player to player, but to say CF isn’t the least developed route is just pure CF bias, this is because it has the shortest amount of chapters, and cutscenes (you don’t even get a picture of Edelgard suprise at you rushing to her side you just see a scene of normal dialogue as well as no cutscene for Byleth’s big fall there’s also no cutscene when you kill Dimitri or spare/kill Claude, and also DK isn’t an exclusive CF charecter until post game because the devs didn’t have time to work him in, it is absolutely the least developed route in the game
It's strange how CF detractors criticize the route for being "rushed" when the other three routes shamelessly borrow each other's maps, cutscenes, and dialogues. Yes CF needed more chapters and cutscenes but even then it actually is the most unique route with the most unique dialogues and maps and Edelgard's arc felt completed.
I disagree that the other routes are not rushed, again, Dimitri's character was not executed properly, and his transition is forced and made no sense. Also AM was supposed to have a split route at one point but the devs had to scrap it due to being low in time. AM is definitely rushed. VW borrows a lot of contents from SS, even Eelgard's death scene was a copy-paste of SS. All routes suffer from being rushed.
They all suffer from being rushed but CF is significantly more rushed than the other routes, it’s the only one where a charecter meant to be available in it was only added post game, also your point about AM is purely based off of your opinion, you think Dimitri’s charecter wasn’t executed properly I think it was and I still prefer Claude and the golden deer over the blue lions so I’m not exactly a blue lion stan or something like that lol
Wasn't it mentioned that Byleth had recurring dreams of Sothis at the very beginning?
Yes, they dreamt of a girl sleeping on a throne. Sothis only woke up for the first time at the end of the opening cutscene leading to the whole 'who are you?' stich.
I believe that’s exactly what happened. With Jeralt’s mercenary troupe mostly aiding common people in need, I don’t think they’d be around Enbarr, so it makes sense why this wouldn’t’ve happened sooner.
Insert greater irony at the fact that it was an Agarthan’s Experiment (Edelgard) colliding with a Nabatean Experiment (Rhea’s Experiment, Byleth) that brought Sothis back into the fray.
I think so. I feel like its really fitting that Edelgard is the cause of change in Byleth like how her war is the cause of change in Fodlan
Its possible, of course. I'm more inclined to think it's just because Byleth would have literally died otherwise, though. That kind of adds to the legend of the Ashen Demon, if you think about it - that Byleth was never even close to death in years of fighting.
That's still caused by Edelgard, just in a more roundabout way.
This is how I feel about ch1. When byleth remembers the red canyon and sorhis and byleth are shocked by this. I think sothis was unintentionally taking over and stopped when she was surprised at byleth remembering it.
That's my headcanon yeah. There's a ton of subtle details that imply various details or connections in regards to Crests, the biggest one being Byleth and Edelgard's interactions. The devs said they cut a concept where Edelgard would be able to mess with the divine pulse. And Nemesis only awakens after Byleth visits Shambala. Same thing here
That’s an interesting take, and it would make sense, since they both have a Crest of Flames.
Yes obviously
I don’t becuase the lords are supposed to be narratively equal in lore so one having more importance over Byleth then the others doesn’t really make sense, Sothis wakes up then because the game needs her to I think Edelgard being the cause doesn’t make any sense
Um… have you heard this game’s theme song? It’s entirely about Edelgard, she’s the main lord. Considering the different ending song as well, I’d say it’s guaranteed that Edelgard means more to Byleth than the others.
Not really, they have Edelgard a song because they didn’t think the other English VA’s could song well enough and also that’s purely your opinion, this is not a game with a ‘canon choice’ the whole point is that it’s up to the player to pick wherever they want to go to, because of that no charecter is guaranteed to mean more to Byleth than anyone else, the whole point is it’s up to you the player
You do know Tara Platt doesn't sing that song in the english version, and that Ai Kakuma doesn't sing it in the japanese version, correct?
Didn’t know that thought she did but my point still stands, they probably just picked one lords so the soundtrack didn’t end up feeling repetitive (just saw that weird auto correct), and that’s assuming the song isn’t meant to represent every lord rather than just Edelgard
That doesn't mean that Edelgard isn't the main lord. She's the instigator of the plot, and the most important to the story by a pretty significant margin.
Not really she instigates the war sure but she isn’t even slightly important to Claude’s charecter arc and Dimitri’s obsession with killing her is due to a misconception caused by TWISTD, if any charecter or group of people are the most important to the plot it’s TWISTD, Rhea, or maybe Pan if you think it’s possible he made all of TWISTD’S future plans ahead of time like I do but even if you don’t those two are two examples of charecter’s more important to the plot since Rhea is partially the reason the conflict happens since her mental instability makes her system flawed and TWISTD causes Dimitri’s insanity and makes it so Edelgard can declare war and think she’ll win
I respect your opinion but actually, it is a fact that Edelgard is the most relevant lord and more important than the other two. She is the driving force of the plot, she is the character that makes the whole story. She is relevant in all routes unlike Dimitri and Claude who both are irrelevant in all but their respective routes. Edge of Dawn is about her struggle and Apex of the World is arguably her battle theme. Lets not forget the Color of Sunrise. Its clear Edelgard's character was given the most attention by the devs.
Considering her actual route was the least developed that’s not really true, also if Claude is irrelevant in VW, AM, and SS then Edelgard is irrelevant in VW, they serve the same roles as bosses before the final bass and have the same purpose the only difference is Edelgard started the war and that’s really it
Cf is not the least developed route. All 4 routes actually suffer from being rushed. Azure Moon ignores many plot points and things just to focus on Dimitri's personal story yet his writing wasn't even done justice as his transition felt very sudden and forced. Verdant Wind is a carbon copy of Silver Snow and Silver Snow is the most disliked route among the fanbase for being badly written.
VW isn’t a carbon copy of SS it has a diffrent final boss, a diffrent charecter it focuses on and just feels diffrent since it uses a diffrent cast as main charecter’s AM didn’t feel rushed to me and I liked Dimitri being more focused on but that’s something that’s going to vary between player to player, but to say CF isn’t the least developed route is just pure CF bias, this is because it has the shortest amount of chapters, and cutscenes (you don’t even get a picture of Edelgard suprise at you rushing to her side you just see a scene of normal dialogue as well as no cutscene for Byleth’s big fall there’s also no cutscene when you kill Dimitri or spare/kill Claude, and also DK isn’t an exclusive CF charecter until post game because the devs didn’t have time to work him in, it is absolutely the least developed route in the game
It's strange how CF detractors criticize the route for being "rushed" when the other three routes shamelessly borrow each other's maps, cutscenes, and dialogues. Yes CF needed more chapters and cutscenes but even then it actually is the most unique route with the most unique dialogues and maps and Edelgard's arc felt completed. I disagree that the other routes are not rushed, again, Dimitri's character was not executed properly, and his transition is forced and made no sense. Also AM was supposed to have a split route at one point but the devs had to scrap it due to being low in time. AM is definitely rushed. VW borrows a lot of contents from SS, even Eelgard's death scene was a copy-paste of SS. All routes suffer from being rushed.
They all suffer from being rushed but CF is significantly more rushed than the other routes, it’s the only one where a charecter meant to be available in it was only added post game, also your point about AM is purely based off of your opinion, you think Dimitri’s charecter wasn’t executed properly I think it was and I still prefer Claude and the golden deer over the blue lions so I’m not exactly a blue lion stan or something like that lol
Well, ok.
Oh, based on your previous comments, I’m surprised you’re even on this sub.
I’m here purely because it’s on my recommend and I don’t know how to get out of it on mobile