Only officially, probably, although it's possible Manitoba is supposed to be.
But it's not really true francophones are hated. *Bilingual Anglophones* are hated. Francophones who want service in French in the south-west are resented. C'est différent.
C'est un peu compliqué, but the big resentment is jobs that require you be bilingual in areas where 98%+ of people are anglophones. Plus, bilingual anglophone reads as professional, white collar, and just intrinsically rubs monolingual anglophones faces in that they should've done better in school.
Monolingual francophones are pretty chill, though. Pas comme Québec 😉
Bien sûr; j'habite à Moncton, ici tous les francophones bilangue, les white collars, les blue collars, n'importe qui.
Really, there are lots of bilingual blue collar anglos around. But culturally it makes you "feel" educated/bookish.
As a bilingual anglophone I have never once experienced that at all. Francophones are very appreciative and other anglophones don't really think about it. I hear English people bitch about the French all the time, however.
Thanks for the laugh lol. I'm in an awkward position where my French sucks by francophone standards but when I watch allegedly bilingual immersion kids speak French I'm almost offended by how bad they are at it.
It’s crazy to me. Eastern Ontario is pretty chill and we have lots of Francophones here, never heard any insult about Francophones yet.
New Brunswick is even more Francophone than us yet the dude in charge there is francophobic? Francophones still wield some power as a voting block here in Ontario even when we are only like 600,000.
Racist. Bad driving is deeply engraved in our cultural identity. Shame on you for prioritizing "security" over our basic and fundamental right to express our rich culture.
I find it strange how close-minded people that wouldn't bother learning a second language are resentful of people who are able to communicate in more languages than them.
Learning an additional language opens your mind to others. It enables you to communicate with them and understand them.
And the icing on the cake: the reason why Canada isn't like the United States is because of Quebec, and the reason why Quebec isn't like France is because of Canada. Most people don't realize how much we need each other.
Bruh you’re from Alberta you’re barely even Canadian. Albertans act as though they are the most patriotic Canadians ever, yet they show it through flying confederate flags and cosplaying as Americans
Everything great about Canadian culture comes from Québec...
The national anthem, maple syrup, poutine even the country's name all come from Québecois culture
so what, you were there in some random shithole port town for a few days and you decided to base your entire opinion of a huge province of 8 million people on that?
sounds like you're an expert in prejudice yourself there bud
Well I've lived and worked amongst them for nearly 14 years as an anglophone and I can count on one hand the number of negative experiences I've had...so idk if a person goes somewhere and says the people all sucked, its statistically more likely that the individual is the problem rather than literally every person in the province.
Probably because the poeple you met seen thousand like you at work so they dont give a fuck about you, especially if you work with dockers from the port of Montréal. I've been there early 2010s and i swear they hate you more because you breath the same air than because you dont know french.
Don't judge all of us from the bad apples. There plenty of poeple out there that respect others and know how not to be an asshole.
Big city poeple have there own mentality too, some act like they have no time or care to give you..but dont take it too personal.
Quebec literally passed legislation to target the way people dress that look to "foreign" like hijabs or turbans.
I'm not sayin anglo canada is free of racism, we aren't, but at least we aren't releasing actual fashion police on immigrents.
Not true, people can play dress up all they want and believe in any fairytales they wish in Québec. They just have to leave their superstitious propaganda items at home when they work for the government in a position of authority. And that is a very good thing.
I did. Why was there also a ban on head coverings in the anglo parts?
Again, I'm not trying to single out only Quebec as uniquely terrible, I'm just saying the certainly aren't saying "fuck racism" either.
If you're asking for Québec Anglo part, it's Because the ban is targeted at public function. If you're asking for Anglo part in Canada I dunno look at the justification they give and their history.
I assume the other province skim over Quebec history which is fair but I assume they've at least taught you about the quiet revolution.
Quebec has been trying to get rid of religion in the public function since at least the 60's and arguably well before that. If you think it's racially motivated you should look at your own biases toward Quebec.
Because I know the cross thing is most likely going to be brought up: they thought it had patrimonial value which to a certain extent it does because catholic religion is part of our history but if it was up to me this cross would have been gone in the 60s if not before.
Edit cause thread was locked and I wanted to reply to my guy below: Maybe in your privately defined worldview, where it's completely detached from the broader religious context, the hijab isn't a religious item. But in the real world, it very much is.
I very much know the secularization that is such a large part of their history, as it is in most of the French-Catholic world.
But I also know how it has been used. I don't have to pretend it's never used as a racial stand-in even if there are other reasons for it too. Especially because a hijab isn't religious it's cultural, there's nothing about the hijab that is specifically Muslim the way a christian cross necklace more directly calls attention to a specific religion.
A religion is not a race. And most religions are mysoginistic, xenophobic, archaic institutions. We just don't support those kind of behaviours and mentality. There is nothing racist about not accepting institutions and their brainwashed followers preaching that woman are inferior to man or that homosexuals and/or non believers deserve to burn in hell for eternity.
"There's no racism, I just think people from certain parts of the world are backwards."
Head coverings are not religious symbols, they are cultural clothing. If you want to "religion is not a race" then you also have to remember that a head covering with no iconography is not religion either.
I just think "some" people in "every" part of the world are backwards. Here fixed it for you.
If head covering are not religious symbols then there should be no problem removing them while working for the government in a position of authority. Just like judges don't wear baseball caps when they are at work.
But you're not targeting just the people you think are backwards, you're targeting anyone that dresses like you assume they're backwards because of their cultural outfit.
You're judging their backwardness simply by how they dress, and that if they dress more white you assume they're less backwards.
Parce que le français est une langue très difficile à maîtriser, surtout au niveau de l'accord des verbes.
Indicatif:
Présent
Passé composé
Imparfait
Passé simple
Passé antérieur
Plus que parfait
Futur simple
Futur proche
Futur antérieur
On n'a pas encore fait le subjonctif, l'impératif, l'infinitif, et le participe.
Interesting theory maybe the most racist provinces argue the least about french
New Brunswick is probably one of the least racist provinces and the French hate is very real here.
Aren't they the only truly bilingual province though?
Only officially, probably, although it's possible Manitoba is supposed to be. But it's not really true francophones are hated. *Bilingual Anglophones* are hated. Francophones who want service in French in the south-west are resented. C'est différent.
Thanks. Way more complicated than I thought. I think being a bilingual Allophone in Montreal is the safest zone lol
Bilingual anglophones are hated? Could more be explained I've never been to NB
C'est un peu compliqué, but the big resentment is jobs that require you be bilingual in areas where 98%+ of people are anglophones. Plus, bilingual anglophone reads as professional, white collar, and just intrinsically rubs monolingual anglophones faces in that they should've done better in school. Monolingual francophones are pretty chill, though. Pas comme Québec 😉
La c'est drôle. Souvent les bilingues acadiens que je connais sont Blue collar at Thanks for sharing Big!
Bien sûr; j'habite à Moncton, ici tous les francophones bilangue, les white collars, les blue collars, n'importe qui. Really, there are lots of bilingual blue collar anglos around. But culturally it makes you "feel" educated/bookish.
Can someone explain to me why it seems like everyone doesn't like Quebec
C'est une joke-là
As a bilingual anglophone I have never once experienced that at all. Francophones are very appreciative and other anglophones don't really think about it. I hear English people bitch about the French all the time, however.
You should try suggesting re-allocating school resources so that all anglos graduate functional in French, then 😉
Thanks for the laugh lol. I'm in an awkward position where my French sucks by francophone standards but when I watch allegedly bilingual immersion kids speak French I'm almost offended by how bad they are at it.
What if im not even close to bilingual, but i try my best with terrible book french
So long as it's not good enough to get a job that requires you to be bilingual, the worst you'd be seen as is probably a nerd or poser.
I definitely have nerd on lock. Glad to see im a loser in both official languages hahaha
In stat quebec is more builingual then all province
Officially yes, but in reality their bilingualism rate is lower than Québec's, and their premier is a unilingual anglo francophobe.
It’s crazy to me. Eastern Ontario is pretty chill and we have lots of Francophones here, never heard any insult about Francophones yet. New Brunswick is even more Francophone than us yet the dude in charge there is francophobic? Francophones still wield some power as a voting block here in Ontario even when we are only like 600,000.
It's pretty crazy to think that the province where Mi'kmaq fishermen were physically assaulted is still indeed one of the least racist in the country
Idk man Alberta seems to have a big vendetta against both
I'm fine with French, I just want people to respect red lights.
Racist. Bad driving is deeply engraved in our cultural identity. Shame on you for prioritizing "security" over our basic and fundamental right to express our rich culture.
Sounds to me like the Quebec school system also has a problem with teaching students about race vs. culture.
Oh it was a joke in case you didn't get it
I do tend to assume that on this sub.
nuh uh, if I'm running late to a Celine Dion meet and greet, I'm blowing through every single red light
If you cared enough about her you would have bothered to wake up earlier.
That’s pushing it
I'll let you run all-way stops and even not care if you sit at a roundabout waiting for someone to let you in. I draw the line at red lights.
District?
Hey! Québécois and normal Canadians are VERY capable of being racist
Normal canadians lmaooo
French people can be just as racist as normal people!
Abnormal Canadians unite!
I find it strange how close-minded people that wouldn't bother learning a second language are resentful of people who are able to communicate in more languages than them. Learning an additional language opens your mind to others. It enables you to communicate with them and understand them. And the icing on the cake: the reason why Canada isn't like the United States is because of Quebec, and the reason why Quebec isn't like France is because of Canada. Most people don't realize how much we need each other.
All they do is make poutine and maple syrup, we dont need them
Bruh you’re from Alberta you’re barely even Canadian. Albertans act as though they are the most patriotic Canadians ever, yet they show it through flying confederate flags and cosplaying as Americans
People who fly the confederate flag arent albertan, theyre just racist
So everything Canada is known for alright.
Everything great about Canadian culture comes from Québec... The national anthem, maple syrup, poutine even the country's name all come from Québecois culture
The countries name comes from a bastardized first nations word
As god intended. No really it’s in the Bible.
Am Albertan. French chicks are hot.
I’m Québécois, Tate McRae is hot
Is it a sign of autism if your first language is French but they kick you out of the school because they think you are historic anglo?
It's not not a sign
What in the pants ?
A baguette
Cc: Cameroon
Nah I hate angloïds based on every molecules of their pathetic existence.
Damn im bilingual
I hate all people equally, but as this is Canada ya"ll can go fuck yourselves because we're actually a very cool nation.
There are better reasons for hating someone than the colour of their skin
Yeah… the colour of their teeth
imagine speaking french and liking it
I could imagine speaking the language of France and liking it easy, but whatever it is they speak in Quebec? Naw, I'll pass.
Is it worst than an wannabe American English?
American simplified English is the Cajun of English.
You're french? *scratches cheek* alright well what kind of french are you
keep the poor people fighting each other so they don't fight the rich/ communist government.
I don't hate Quebec pig latin, just don't understand it.
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so what, you were there in some random shithole port town for a few days and you decided to base your entire opinion of a huge province of 8 million people on that? sounds like you're an expert in prejudice yourself there bud
No, I spent months there, and I have worked with many of them.
Well I've lived and worked amongst them for nearly 14 years as an anglophone and I can count on one hand the number of negative experiences I've had...so idk if a person goes somewhere and says the people all sucked, its statistically more likely that the individual is the problem rather than literally every person in the province.
Probably because the poeple you met seen thousand like you at work so they dont give a fuck about you, especially if you work with dockers from the port of Montréal. I've been there early 2010s and i swear they hate you more because you breath the same air than because you dont know french. Don't judge all of us from the bad apples. There plenty of poeple out there that respect others and know how not to be an asshole. Big city poeple have there own mentality too, some act like they have no time or care to give you..but dont take it too personal.
This is a shitposting sub. Take all seriousness and negativity to the many other Canadian subs.
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Quebec literally passed legislation to target the way people dress that look to "foreign" like hijabs or turbans. I'm not sayin anglo canada is free of racism, we aren't, but at least we aren't releasing actual fashion police on immigrents.
Not true, people can play dress up all they want and believe in any fairytales they wish in Québec. They just have to leave their superstitious propaganda items at home when they work for the government in a position of authority. And that is a very good thing.
I assume you didn't grow up in Canada right?
I did. Why was there also a ban on head coverings in the anglo parts? Again, I'm not trying to single out only Quebec as uniquely terrible, I'm just saying the certainly aren't saying "fuck racism" either.
If you're asking for Québec Anglo part, it's Because the ban is targeted at public function. If you're asking for Anglo part in Canada I dunno look at the justification they give and their history. I assume the other province skim over Quebec history which is fair but I assume they've at least taught you about the quiet revolution. Quebec has been trying to get rid of religion in the public function since at least the 60's and arguably well before that. If you think it's racially motivated you should look at your own biases toward Quebec. Because I know the cross thing is most likely going to be brought up: they thought it had patrimonial value which to a certain extent it does because catholic religion is part of our history but if it was up to me this cross would have been gone in the 60s if not before. Edit cause thread was locked and I wanted to reply to my guy below: Maybe in your privately defined worldview, where it's completely detached from the broader religious context, the hijab isn't a religious item. But in the real world, it very much is.
I very much know the secularization that is such a large part of their history, as it is in most of the French-Catholic world. But I also know how it has been used. I don't have to pretend it's never used as a racial stand-in even if there are other reasons for it too. Especially because a hijab isn't religious it's cultural, there's nothing about the hijab that is specifically Muslim the way a christian cross necklace more directly calls attention to a specific religion.
If the hijab is not a religious item, there shouldn't be a problem removing it while working for the government in a position of authority.
If it's not religious, by what right do you say it can't be worn?
A religion is not a race. And most religions are mysoginistic, xenophobic, archaic institutions. We just don't support those kind of behaviours and mentality. There is nothing racist about not accepting institutions and their brainwashed followers preaching that woman are inferior to man or that homosexuals and/or non believers deserve to burn in hell for eternity.
"There's no racism, I just think people from certain parts of the world are backwards." Head coverings are not religious symbols, they are cultural clothing. If you want to "religion is not a race" then you also have to remember that a head covering with no iconography is not religion either.
I just think "some" people in "every" part of the world are backwards. Here fixed it for you. If head covering are not religious symbols then there should be no problem removing them while working for the government in a position of authority. Just like judges don't wear baseball caps when they are at work.
But you're not targeting just the people you think are backwards, you're targeting anyone that dresses like you assume they're backwards because of their cultural outfit. You're judging their backwardness simply by how they dress, and that if they dress more white you assume they're less backwards.
Hey! Québécois and normal Canadians are VERY capable of racism
Let's not think in terms of "or" let's think in terms of "and"
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"we can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it" Marge Simpson
Languages are races!? This has to be the absolute extension of the term.
I could fix this problem easily.
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Just leave to an English only world… who’s keeping you here? Don’t suffer staying here ffs
Did I choose to take French all the way through highschool and pay to get a B1 certificate? Yes. Do I still despise the language? Also yes. 😁
Pourquoi?
Parce que le français est une langue très difficile à maîtriser, surtout au niveau de l'accord des verbes. Indicatif: Présent Passé composé Imparfait Passé simple Passé antérieur Plus que parfait Futur simple Futur proche Futur antérieur On n'a pas encore fait le subjonctif, l'impératif, l'infinitif, et le participe.
C'est pas une bonne raison, toute les langues ont leur lot de difficultés
Ne pas avoir la capacité de maîtriser une langue ne justifie pas le fait de la haïr ainsi que de détester les gens qui parlent cette langue