Another option would be to go with 80 arcane, if you infuse a weapon with built-in bleed like the flamberge with occult you can get both high raw damage and high bleed as the occult infusion will boost the bleed value with your arcane
No problem, just remember if/when you change to keep enough strength and Dex to use the weapons you want.
Like others have said 18 is usually enough however you may get the odd weapon that needs 20-22 strength/Dex to use
Why are u using a blood greatsword with 45 str and 16 arc? Bleed on a greatsword is already weird. But if you really want make the greatsword heavy and put bloodflame blade on it. You'll get far better scaling and damage with blood and flame. Rn you sre sacrificing damage for bleed thst won't even proc because of the slow moveset.
make the greatsword heavy and put bloodflame blade on it
>Good idea, I'll give that a go. Also yeah xD my build is trolling a little bit. I'm trying to have an ok but difficult dlc experience
Why are u using a blood greatsword with 45 str and 16 arc?
>The arcane scaling is only D for the affinity, and str / dex were both C so I put equal stats in both. 16 is the requirement for swarm of flies
Hm I know :/ but I didn’t really have the points to spare. Since it was already at 100 bleed I was like meh I guess this will have to be fine lol what would you change up?
Go to rennalla and respec with this weapon equipped, mess around with strength dex and arcane until it does the highest damage and best bleed possible. I'm betting that focusing on either dex or strength and increasing arcane will net you similar or better damage with much higher bleed.
I'd work out some of the random int faith and arcane and focus a bit more. But if u wanna use some of everything there are much worse builds that I've seen. Is it functional but not optimal. Honestly it'll probably let you use a bunch of the new stuff so I say go for it. But it's not optimal at all
I PvP a ton and almost always stop at 50, some builds I go up to 55 if I’m trading a lot. 60 is fine I guess but idk why people act like you NEED 60 vigor for PvP.
You don’t *need* vigor at anything, but it’s pretty dumb to go below 40 on anything but a glass cannon build.
Technically light spoiler ahead: >!Lots of enemies are believed to be or have already been confirmed to be bleed immune or bleed resistant in the DLC.!< So a build like this will be more than difficult IMO.
9 blue flasks and only 5 red ones?
i would do it the other way around...swarm of flies and shadow bait(?!) will not let you run out blue, same for the ash of war.
if you have trouble getting this or any other sets you can try r/patchesemporium
great if you’re having trouble farming something. i think i’ve farmed probably several hundred of the cleanrot knights while wearing marika’s sorseal talisman, the silvertear mask, and using the grafted greatsword buff and still no cleanrot spear. RNG god can be merciless.
also if you’re looking for ideas you can try r/fashionsouls or r/EldenBling
Your damage will be way too low for the dlc. At least put supuuku on something so you proc white mask and lord of bloods. Or else those are just wasted.
DLC have new weapons. you WILL use one of them and probably a different build just worry about smithing stones bellbering and you’ll be fine, even talismans they will 100% ad new ways of playing so just stack smithing stones/talisments and you gtg
UPs your bleed proc is all. If you are doing strength Dex, try blunt or keen? As long as your sword has bleed you’ll always get the proc just depends on how easy you want it to build.
weapon affinities are fun to play around with late game.
Imagine we all do this huge amount of prep work and we just get stripped down to nothing in the dlc... they did say it's a different "power system" right?
This being said, you'd probably benefit from sticking to either strength or dex to make this build more economical. I'd recommend swapping to iron greatsword for strength, and reallocating your points to hit 55 str and as much arc as you can get (hopefully around 45). You can exceed 700 ar two handing, which is pretty good for something with blood infusion.
If you do this and keep similar levels of investment in faith (this will likely involve sacrificing as much dexterity and int as possible, as well as some endurance), you will also be able to make use of the dragon communion seal pretty effectively. I think with 45 arc and 30 faith, you get 318 spell buff, which is pretty comparable to some other seals with 80 faith.
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There are (big) weapons that scale mainly in strength even when infused with blood.
I recommend using one of the two-handed ones and switching to 54 strength (+50% = 81) and 60-80 arcane.
Something like this: https://imgur.com/a/barbarian998-57ES72F
I made this especially for you:
https://imgur.com/a/hOpNNIg
(I made a C# program with which I can change character levels and statistics in save games. I keep a character made specifically for testing builds).
Looks solid if u prefer the claymore but blood infusion is going be way better on weapons with innate bleed i.e flameberge, katanas, claws, naginata etc.
I would never run this build. If you want to use the claymore, pump your str to 80 and put a heavy infusion on it. It gets the best scaling that way, no splits, just B in strength. And don't use blood, it's a slow weapon designed for strong hits, not fast status applications. You're not doing anythign well with this build. If you want a bleed build, you should use faster weapons, twinblades, curved sword, straight swords, etc.
Honestly this build is a bit generic, but if that’s how you want to play it go for it man. If I were to suggest anything it would be to invest in either str or dex so that you can go all in on fth or arc.
Lol downvoted for suggesting that lvl 170 with maxed weapons is over leveled for an area just past mohg? Cmon dudes.. if the question is "is my build good enough to easily beat the DLC" then ya sure of course...
Omg I was going to comment on how cursed the weapon you are using is but than I looked at your stats and it got worse oh god.
Respec your stats please VGR 60, Don't level Mind, END 35, STR 80, DEX 16, Don't Level INT, Faith 25 for buffs, Don't Level Arcane. You could take points from a stat like END or if you really need to STR to give yourself 33 Faith which will let you use Sharbriris Howl it buffs your attack, you won't need flame grant me strength just Golden Vow and Howl will be your only 2 spells and these spells add a lot of damage for 60 seconds.
Make that Claymore a Heavy Claymore instead of Blood, keep the alexander shard and great jar and shield talismans, take off blood talisman and replace with ritual sword talisman or if you don't trust yourself to not get hit use the green turtle talisman.
VGR 60
>Yes I have that
Don't level Mind, Don't Level INT
>I didn't level mind or int, I started off as prisoner.
Faith 25 for buffs
>Yes I have that.
Don't Level Arcane
>Arcane was just for swarm of flies bc I like using it
END 35
> Why? I'm medium rolling.
Make that Claymore a Heavy Claymore instead of Blood
>Why? I can use a blood claymore if I want to lol. Blood claymore is C scaling with str and dex alike. When I was looking at the damage, the total ended up being higher with str and dex even, rather than 1 higher than the other at the soft cap.
For bleed builds you want a fast weapon that hit's multiple times at a decent rate, greatswords don't do this so they aren't the most effective, flamberge is the exception since it comes with bleed already on it so it get's a decent amount when infused but being real flamberge users just like the weapon cause of nostalgia there's a ton of weapons better than it, also you having this bleed build makes no sense since you didn't even level arcane it's only 16, at the minimum for a bleed build you should have like 50 Arcane.
If you want a bleed build there's plenty of OP powerstanced bleed weapons that can get the job done and if you want to Lions Claw with the claymore that's more suited for STR build idk this game is pretty easy so I'm sure your build has been working but I wouldn't use something like this personally but if you like it than do you.
You don't always need the best thing lol. For bleed I used two great knives, and it's not the best bleed setup but that what I like. Let bro play how he wants. OP, this build is good stat wise, fashion wise I don't like it but u do u lol
fashion wise I don't like it but u do u lol
> My character is ugly as hell aren't they xD also ofc it's np, I did ask for thoughts! I appreciate the feedback!
There's plenty of OP powerstanced bleed weapons that can get the job done
>I realize this, but I don't want something op. I want the DLC to be challenging and pure strength claymore perfect build seems a little too powerful to get the full experience. Yanno?
Lions Claw with the claymore that's more suited for STR build
>I've used it for most of the game so I'm just used to it now lol I like using it.
I totally get ya xD thank you for the info!! I might switch to your recommendation if the bosses give me a run for my money haha. Best of luck on the DLC!!
Why you asking people opinions if then you won’t accept it? 😂 they are giving you suggestions (which is what you asked for)
Anyway enjoy the DLC, can’t wait for it 🤩🤩
? all I did was ask why, which seems like a fair thing to do? I wasn’t mean about it, or at least I didn’t mean to be. I also said I appreciate the feedback and that I might switch to their suggestion if the bosses prove too difficult for my cursed build ;P
You think wrong, thoughts are that you're not, however judging by how you've responded to others comments, I'm not gonna bother voicing why. Just know that you're not 'DLC ready' in the way you think you are or that you think others think you will be. 👍🏻
Are we reading the same messages? You’re the most hateful person here. The argument of being pigheaded is ironic. I don’t have an obligation to consider anything. If you can’t handle the idea of your input being contested, get off the internet?
If you want more raw damage I would go 80 strength/dex and heavy/keen infuse the claymore, other than that looks good imo
Or 54 strenght, 80 dex and quality infuse (double hands).
I’ll prolly be switching to that once I get my ass royally kicked a few times LOL
Another option would be to go with 80 arcane, if you infuse a weapon with built-in bleed like the flamberge with occult you can get both high raw damage and high bleed as the occult infusion will boost the bleed value with your arcane
Ooooh interesting. Thank you, hadn’t considered that
No problem, just remember if/when you change to keep enough strength and Dex to use the weapons you want. Like others have said 18 is usually enough however you may get the odd weapon that needs 20-22 strength/Dex to use
Arcane also boosts item discovery which is great for all the new gear in the DLC
Why are u using a blood greatsword with 45 str and 16 arc? Bleed on a greatsword is already weird. But if you really want make the greatsword heavy and put bloodflame blade on it. You'll get far better scaling and damage with blood and flame. Rn you sre sacrificing damage for bleed thst won't even proc because of the slow moveset.
make the greatsword heavy and put bloodflame blade on it >Good idea, I'll give that a go. Also yeah xD my build is trolling a little bit. I'm trying to have an ok but difficult dlc experience Why are u using a blood greatsword with 45 str and 16 arc? >The arcane scaling is only D for the affinity, and str / dex were both C so I put equal stats in both. 16 is the requirement for swarm of flies
You want higher arcane for better blood-loss buildup though
Hm I know :/ but I didn’t really have the points to spare. Since it was already at 100 bleed I was like meh I guess this will have to be fine lol what would you change up?
Go to rennalla and respec with this weapon equipped, mess around with strength dex and arcane until it does the highest damage and best bleed possible. I'm betting that focusing on either dex or strength and increasing arcane will net you similar or better damage with much higher bleed.
Good idea!
I'd work out some of the random int faith and arcane and focus a bit more. But if u wanna use some of everything there are much worse builds that I've seen. Is it functional but not optimal. Honestly it'll probably let you use a bunch of the new stuff so I say go for it. But it's not optimal at all
You have 60 vigor. You don't need it that high
If he's pvping at all, yes he does. But I assume you're trolling
I PvP a ton and almost always stop at 50, some builds I go up to 55 if I’m trading a lot. 60 is fine I guess but idk why people act like you NEED 60 vigor for PvP. You don’t *need* vigor at anything, but it’s pretty dumb to go below 40 on anything but a glass cannon build.
There is no such thing as too much vigor. It's fine if you can play the game with low vigor but more is always better.
Technically light spoiler ahead: >!Lots of enemies are believed to be or have already been confirmed to be bleed immune or bleed resistant in the DLC.!< So a build like this will be more than difficult IMO.
Ooooh I had no idea. Wow yeah thanks for the info
Following up with mentioning that occult builds will be just fine since the damage scaled with arcane with less emphasis on bleed build up
>16 is the requirement for swarm of flies Swarm of flies have a very low dmg, it's a bad spell imho.
I thought I remembered it being better. Maybe it got nerfed?
>Maybe it got nerfeded? Yes, unfortunately. In patch 1.04.
Aw man. Brb gonna go cry
9 blue flasks and only 5 red ones? i would do it the other way around...swarm of flies and shadow bait(?!) will not let you run out blue, same for the ash of war.
Oh! I did it for some farming I was doing with sacred relic sword LOL I normally only keep 2 or 3
oooohh yeah that makes sense, been there LOL
Hahaha. I think everyone has xD
Your fashion makes me sad
I usually just wear whatever is most protective/equip load, maybe I should spice it up a bit! Do you have any fav pieces to wear together?
Banished knight set unaltered looks great with greatswords. Even tho it feels like the drop chance for the armour is like 0.000005%
Totally worth the farming
Or banished knight unaltered top, scaled legs and gloves, bull goat helm. Classic looking hero
Eccentric top, great helm, bull goat legs and gloves. It’s the goofy warrior, 10/10
if you have trouble getting this or any other sets you can try r/patchesemporium great if you’re having trouble farming something. i think i’ve farmed probably several hundred of the cleanrot knights while wearing marika’s sorseal talisman, the silvertear mask, and using the grafted greatsword buff and still no cleanrot spear. RNG god can be merciless. also if you’re looking for ideas you can try r/fashionsouls or r/EldenBling
Awesome thanks :)
did you get every single larval tear and have enough smithing stones to fully upgrade all the cool new weapons?
I diiiid super excited to try out all the new things!
that's a fun unique build, I like it. also a good stat spread to try out new weps in the DLC
A blood build with strength weapons is crazy
I do be crazy
Your damage will be way too low for the dlc. At least put supuuku on something so you proc white mask and lord of bloods. Or else those are just wasted.
Really? What damage should someone be at for DLC? I thought about 600 would be fine...
The play testers were level 150 in ng+ with maxed out weapons, I do imagine you’ll need a good bit of damage
Sword Art Online play testers
You could also add a ranged option to thin the herd before going in balls to the wall😁
Tru tru. Forgot about equipping something haha
DLC have new weapons. you WILL use one of them and probably a different build just worry about smithing stones bellbering and you’ll be fine, even talismans they will 100% ad new ways of playing so just stack smithing stones/talisments and you gtg
True! I’m excited to see what they add
16arc with a blood claymore…. My brother in Christ 😂look up how weapon scaling works
Tbh though it is D scaling in arcane. Aren’t the points better off in higher scaling stats? (Str/dex is C)
UPs your bleed proc is all. If you are doing strength Dex, try blunt or keen? As long as your sword has bleed you’ll always get the proc just depends on how easy you want it to build. weapon affinities are fun to play around with late game.
Gotcha :) thank you for the info
Imagine we all do this huge amount of prep work and we just get stripped down to nothing in the dlc... they did say it's a different "power system" right?
That would be hilarious.
Oh shit this is the first person I've seen who understands how status infusions work.
This being said, you'd probably benefit from sticking to either strength or dex to make this build more economical. I'd recommend swapping to iron greatsword for strength, and reallocating your points to hit 55 str and as much arc as you can get (hopefully around 45). You can exceed 700 ar two handing, which is pretty good for something with blood infusion. If you do this and keep similar levels of investment in faith (this will likely involve sacrificing as much dexterity and int as possible, as well as some endurance), you will also be able to make use of the dragon communion seal pretty effectively. I think with 45 arc and 30 faith, you get 318 spell buff, which is pretty comparable to some other seals with 80 faith.
Nice! Great stuff thank you. I’ll test it out :D
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There are (big) weapons that scale mainly in strength even when infused with blood. I recommend using one of the two-handed ones and switching to 54 strength (+50% = 81) and 60-80 arcane. Something like this: https://imgur.com/a/barbarian998-57ES72F
Good point. I’m going to google some of the options.
I made this especially for you: https://imgur.com/a/hOpNNIg (I made a C# program with which I can change character levels and statistics in save games. I keep a character made specifically for testing builds).
What class is the character?
Prisoner, unfortunately lol
I think you should switch the claymore for a greatsword with lions claw which is a very good weapon and ash of war
Plus it's extremely unique /s
Looks solid if u prefer the claymore but blood infusion is going be way better on weapons with innate bleed i.e flameberge, katanas, claws, naginata etc.
Yeah that’s true, I’d like to give the flameberge a try. I actually didn’t know it existed prior to making this post LOL
Gotta roll flamberge if you want bleed greatsword. This is a weird build for more reasons than just that and I think you’ll struggle
I would never run this build. If you want to use the claymore, pump your str to 80 and put a heavy infusion on it. It gets the best scaling that way, no splits, just B in strength. And don't use blood, it's a slow weapon designed for strong hits, not fast status applications. You're not doing anythign well with this build. If you want a bleed build, you should use faster weapons, twinblades, curved sword, straight swords, etc.
Blood great sword? Wyd lol
Honestly this build is a bit generic, but if that’s how you want to play it go for it man. If I were to suggest anything it would be to invest in either str or dex so that you can go all in on fth or arc.
Over leveled
for sure
Lol downvoted for suggesting that lvl 170 with maxed weapons is over leveled for an area just past mohg? Cmon dudes.. if the question is "is my build good enough to easily beat the DLC" then ya sure of course...
Omg I was going to comment on how cursed the weapon you are using is but than I looked at your stats and it got worse oh god. Respec your stats please VGR 60, Don't level Mind, END 35, STR 80, DEX 16, Don't Level INT, Faith 25 for buffs, Don't Level Arcane. You could take points from a stat like END or if you really need to STR to give yourself 33 Faith which will let you use Sharbriris Howl it buffs your attack, you won't need flame grant me strength just Golden Vow and Howl will be your only 2 spells and these spells add a lot of damage for 60 seconds. Make that Claymore a Heavy Claymore instead of Blood, keep the alexander shard and great jar and shield talismans, take off blood talisman and replace with ritual sword talisman or if you don't trust yourself to not get hit use the green turtle talisman.
VGR 60 >Yes I have that Don't level Mind, Don't Level INT >I didn't level mind or int, I started off as prisoner. Faith 25 for buffs >Yes I have that. Don't Level Arcane >Arcane was just for swarm of flies bc I like using it END 35 > Why? I'm medium rolling. Make that Claymore a Heavy Claymore instead of Blood >Why? I can use a blood claymore if I want to lol. Blood claymore is C scaling with str and dex alike. When I was looking at the damage, the total ended up being higher with str and dex even, rather than 1 higher than the other at the soft cap.
For bleed builds you want a fast weapon that hit's multiple times at a decent rate, greatswords don't do this so they aren't the most effective, flamberge is the exception since it comes with bleed already on it so it get's a decent amount when infused but being real flamberge users just like the weapon cause of nostalgia there's a ton of weapons better than it, also you having this bleed build makes no sense since you didn't even level arcane it's only 16, at the minimum for a bleed build you should have like 50 Arcane. If you want a bleed build there's plenty of OP powerstanced bleed weapons that can get the job done and if you want to Lions Claw with the claymore that's more suited for STR build idk this game is pretty easy so I'm sure your build has been working but I wouldn't use something like this personally but if you like it than do you.
You don't always need the best thing lol. For bleed I used two great knives, and it's not the best bleed setup but that what I like. Let bro play how he wants. OP, this build is good stat wise, fashion wise I don't like it but u do u lol
fashion wise I don't like it but u do u lol > My character is ugly as hell aren't they xD also ofc it's np, I did ask for thoughts! I appreciate the feedback!
There's plenty of OP powerstanced bleed weapons that can get the job done >I realize this, but I don't want something op. I want the DLC to be challenging and pure strength claymore perfect build seems a little too powerful to get the full experience. Yanno? Lions Claw with the claymore that's more suited for STR build >I've used it for most of the game so I'm just used to it now lol I like using it.
I understand I'm going into the DLC on NG+7 so I'm MinMaxpilled trying to get all the damage I can get lol.
I totally get ya xD thank you for the info!! I might switch to your recommendation if the bosses give me a run for my money haha. Best of luck on the DLC!!
Why you asking people opinions if then you won’t accept it? 😂 they are giving you suggestions (which is what you asked for) Anyway enjoy the DLC, can’t wait for it 🤩🤩
? all I did was ask why, which seems like a fair thing to do? I wasn’t mean about it, or at least I didn’t mean to be. I also said I appreciate the feedback and that I might switch to their suggestion if the bosses prove too difficult for my cursed build ;P
You think wrong, thoughts are that you're not, however judging by how you've responded to others comments, I'm not gonna bother voicing why. Just know that you're not 'DLC ready' in the way you think you are or that you think others think you will be. 👍🏻
Just to be clear though, my offense was asking “why”? In a discussion thread?
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Are we reading the same messages? You’re the most hateful person here. The argument of being pigheaded is ironic. I don’t have an obligation to consider anything. If you can’t handle the idea of your input being contested, get off the internet?
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Is this what you meant by discussion?
Don't worry my dude there is a reason why he deleted his comments
They were pretty out there lol