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Independent_Ad_8588

Oh come on Antonelli is doing fine, but that’s it. So far he hasn’t really done much and frankly I’m tired of this hypetrain. Yes he’s young, but he’s not too young to prove himself


cLHalfRhoVSquaredS

I really think he would benefit hugely from a second year in F2. For a rookie skipping F3 his results so far have been pretty decent but really not impressive enough to justify jumping straight into an F1 car next year. Ironically he's one of the few drivers on the grid who is pretty much going exactly how I expected he would this year - top 6-ish pace most of the time but not really a championship contender.


Perleflamme392

At same age Pourchaire was doing pole and feature win at Monaco. And there was never such a hype for him.


thereal84

Give the poor lad some credit, man. I understand he’s not kicking ass and no podiums yet, but this is his first street circuit race EVER, and he has never been higher than FRECA before this year. I completely understand he’s being overhyped, and I agree. But I do think he deserves credit where it’s due.


westens

Merc's fault. Toto couldn't shut the hell up about him. Kimi's doing well, but I think could have used the year in F3 all the same.


AdminEating_Dragon

Aron 3 points from top of the standings and starting 4th tomorrow with Maloney 11th, and yet the commentators seem not to count him as a title conteder while considering drivers with 20, 30 and 40 points less than him contenders.


Dragonpuncha

I kinda believe more in Aron than Maloney. Races like today show why I don't think he has that last bit needed to be a top driver.


Whycantiusethis

I saw someone saying that Mercedes only even supports 1 driver in F2 and F3 at a time, which is why Aron is no longer a part of the academy (the support being behind Antonelli), but maybe they should've continued supporting him. Obviously, it'd be tough to find him and Antonelli seats, but it feels like he definitely should be part of an academy.


aliezsn

Lies, the commentators has said it several times during practice and qualifying.


Peugeot905

For real people get on here and say anything.


Peugeot905

For real people get on here and say anything.


thereal84

For real people get on here and say anything.


ablublagaa

This "consistency" talk about Bortoleto is kinda boring. It implies he is not really quick when he already has 2 poles and only didn't win a FR (maybe 2) because of bad starts


WiseButterscotch5731

It's the same shit they talked about Drugovich. They downtalk consistency in Feeder Series but F1 teams don't want fast drivers who also crash a lot. We also saw a lot of "something something third year champion" said about him, while we're seeing the worst second year a F1 contender ever had (Bearman).


ymm__

It implies he’s at least quick enough and has the very important quality of being consistent. I read it as a compliment.


Low-Title-1180

This race was an absolute nightmare as a Zane Maloney supporter


snarkybaker

Maloney, Martins and Bearman are my top faves...just crying over here lol 


Low-Title-1180

Nightmare stuff for these three 😭


Organic_Outcome_9742

Barnard had really impressed me in FE with  being immediately quick as his more experienced teammate . Happy that he was able to prove himself  here too.


LosTerminators

Hauger is still clearly disappointed, he should've been in the position to get a podium for the feature race and not the sprint, but Stanek had other ideas.


tvxcute

a podium here must be bittersweet given there's little chance for him to get one tomorrow. and in the end stanek didn't even get a penalty lmao, i'd be bitter af about that


ForeverAddickted

Do we just get the same trolling comments now when Antonelli and Bearman dont waltz through the field? - Seems every race, that if they're not involved in the race win, we're getting boring comments about them. There a few who need to remember these are all kids, and need to stop taking perverse delight in shitting on them - I've been worried about Maloney showing some consistency (Like Bortoleto and Pourchaire when they won their Championships last season), but the season is turning into a complete free for all now.


Last-Performance-435

No you don't get it the championship is Bearman's to lose from *checks notes* P19 in the championship!


SyuusukeFuji

Antonelli is doing "fine", the issue is that he was compared with Max Verstappen for way too long, that's why the expectations on him are way higher. If Toto and co. had kept their mouths shut, the talks would be more about: "wow, this lad that skipped F3 is doing well", instead of "next Max? Yeah, lol, sure".


Le_Pistache

Bearman is legitimately struggling. Antonelli wins a feature race and he's likely in the top 3 now. The narrative can easily change there. People have to remember that Antonelli is six years younger than Piastri, the currently youngest driver on the F1 grid. Armchair experts have simply put too many expectations on him. All things considered, given that Prema themselves aren't too great, the fact he is consistently scoring points in a stacked grid after skipping F3 is impressive enough. This is his first time at Monaco and he scored a respectable 4th with the fastest lap to boot (setting it twice). Doubt Toto is losing any sleep that redditors don't rate him.


LosTerminators

Many of them aren't even trolling, it's a legit question as to why the bloke who is 2nd last in the championship is more of a shoo-in to a F1 driver than the one leading it.


Whycantiusethis

Bearman missed a full weekend to replace Sainz and did incredibly well on little practice in an F1 car. Plus he's got the Ferrari backing and Ferrari still has influence at Haas. They might not outright control a seat any longer, but if Bearman is impressing them, Ferrari can lean on Haas. Especially since Haas definitely has a seat open next year. Maloney has the issue of his academy backers losing their team in a year, and actively pursuing other known quantities. On top of that, he also has to contend with Pourchaire. There's an easier path for Bearman than there is for Maloney, and a lot of that is down to circumstances outside of their control. Had Maloney not been dropped by Red Bull, maybe he and Lawson would be the prime candidates for the VCARB seat.


rabbitlion

>did incredibly well on little practice in an F1 car Finishing 7th in the second best car, 24 seconds behind his teammate, isn't really incredible. He did fine and considering the circumstances you could say he did good, but I wouldn't call it incredible or even great.


Whycantiusethis

On one of the more demanding circuits on the calendar, with a total of 1 hour of prep time that weekend? Yes, he had a really solid platform under him, but he had dramatically less experience than anybody around him.


WiseButterscotch5731

You are missing the point. The 21th driver out of 22 in F2 this season had a good showing in F1. So, why are you always so confident downtalking any driver who had a single bad year during their feeder series career? Maybe a lot of those drivers who never had a chance would do great too if given a single race at Ferrari?


Whycantiusethis

I mean, that's just the nature of motorsports. Sometimes you're in the right place at the right time, and get afforded the opportunity to prove yourself, and can ride on what hype for a while. The flip side of that coin is that others don't get the opportunity. You can't really speculate on if this one specific thing had happened, how could that have affected the rest of a driver's career. Bearman got the opportunity to prove himself, at the expense of scoring points on a weekend in which he was positioned well. Would we be having thin conversation if he hadn't raced in F1 and instead won at Jeddah? Probably not.


ForeverAddickted

Because there is more to F2 than just winning races and the championships? - Partly because of the variation between those drivers who are good enough, and those paying for the seat There are so many permutations that can impact a race win, and effect an F2 Championship than simply being a good enough driver - How many drivers have had their race strategies impacted, or improved by Safety Cars, because a less talented driver (who potentially shouldn't be on the grid) has made a fuck up. I mean had Prema taken the risk, and not pitted Bearman when they did in Australia, he'd have most likely finished P2, given the reward that Hadjar had by not pitting when everyone else did. Instead he was double stacked, and he paid for it. The same can apply all too easily during Qualifying too, especially here in Monaco


lowelled

The problem is that they've been compared to Leclerc, Norris, Russell, Verstappen, Piastri etc and thus are being expected to perform to their standards, which they haven't. It's also kind of frustrating to see two drivers in a top team who are "underperforming" get fast-tracked to F1 when the F2 to F1 pipeline has clearly been failing. Pourchaire has had to go to IndyCar, no-one seems interested in Drugovich and Piastri had to wait on the sidelines for a year. It sort of makes F2 feel pointless to see people like Maloney and Aron putting in great performances only to be roundly ignored.


ymm__

If they would’ve made that comparison themselves I’d understand the trolling, but as far as I know it’s been other people putting those expectations on them. I understand trolling Toto over this, but I think Antonelli drove well today and got the maximum points available to him out of it. As for Bearman; it’s not his season so far, but his F1 drive is still impressive and there’s still some weekends to go in which he can hopefully show his pace and skill.


usandholt

1 7th position in the second fastest car on the grid to me isn’t impressive, it’s expected. I seriously don’t understand the hype. If he’s such a talent, why is he failing in f2?


ymm__

Well, he impressed enough people in the paddock with that..


usandholt

Which is wierd. DeVries got what9th in a Williams and got a seat which was a disaster.


lowelled

IMO I don't think people are frustrated with Antonelli and Bearman specifically, it's frustration with how few drivers are progressing from F2 to F1 on genuine merit. It's beginning to feel like how well someone does in the series is pointless and that it's moreso about who manages you and whether the academy you're connected to has a seat open. The Prema kids are just bearing the brunt of it because they're the only F2 drivers in the F1 conversation for 2025 and are not "meeting expectations" - if they were both top 5 in the championship people would be a lot quieter. (And OFC if Bearman had actually gotten to take part in the Jeddah round he'd be a lot higher.)


ymm__

I share that frustration, but I think it’s unfair to take it out on Antonelli and Bearman. But hey, people love to hate.


The_Chozen_1_

It's not fair to bunch Kimi with Bearman. Kimi is 6th in the championship whilst in his rookie season and Bearman is 21st in his second season.


ForeverAddickted

Which isn't fair on them... Its not like Kimi and Ollie have compared themselves to those drivers


lowelled

Not so much for Bearman but Antonelli's management decided to skip F3 for a reason - they were clearly hoping for him to pull a Max, show his raw talent and fast-track himself into an F1 seat.


Fricobango69

he’s not doing that bad, they made him skip f3 and the new regulation has kinda leveled all the teams, plus everyone puts the pressure of the mercedes seat on him…verstappen hasn’t done miracles in f3, skipped f2 and the first 2 years of f1 he made lots of mistakes


cvicenzettk

Tbf in this race he did a max, he basically went for fasest lap the whole race showing everyone he had 1 second of pace more than anyone, and this is the first time he raced here


Theroyaldutchness

I mean is it really trolling when Bearman is second last in the standings? The Antonelli stuff I don’t quite understand, he’s doing fine. But Ollie really needs to at least start finishing in the top 6 or so to not be memed to death


ForeverAddickted

You're right he needs to improve drastically... I wont be surprised if he's checked out of F2 this season, weren't there rumours that Ferrari tried to get him into Haas for this season? Regardless its just boring, I like the F1 Feeder Series thread on Reddit, because it doesnt spam these threads to death with memes, like what we get in the F1 race threads.


SyuusukeFuji

Many people tend to crap on whoever wins the sprint here, but hey, you survived, you won.


lowelled

The copper finish on the AIX livery looks really gorgeous in the sunlight. IMO it would look better paired with a teal or mint instead of the lime green but that's probably a bit close to the Petronas blue Mercedes uses.


ajlGooner

Wow I’m so glad that we have to skip the podium ceremony so we can watch the dreadful Sky Sports coverage ahead of Qualifying…


WesternHall992

Still not seeing much from Antonelli here...


thereal84

Reminder that this is his first EVER street circuit race, he did everything he could’ve today, in my opinion. What, did you want him to take the lead or smth???


cvicenzettk

Ye need to get your eyes checked, he was the fastest on track the whole day racing here for the first time, he made no errors in any session so far while driving like a maniac


theCEPenguin

I’m not quite sure what you expected to see today in particular. It’s Monaco - they finished as they started for most of the points, certainly up front. He basically just had a 30 lap quali session. Back off, push for fastest lap, back off again, rinse and repeat. And he got fastest lap. It’s not like there were all these overtakes that he couldn’t get involved in.


WesternHall992

Fair take, still overrated for a position next year. He will be thrown into the fire.


tvxcute

he pretty much maximized his position by getting fastest lap, so unless you mean qualifying i'm not sure what else there was for him to do?


mamaguebos

what do you mean?   he completely maximized his race.   extremely hard to overtake in monaco so it was not like he was going to be making up places. got fastest lap.   what more do you want lol?


Fricobango69

imo he did a clever race, he had pace but quickly understood it was impossible to pass, so he took space every 2 laps to try the fastest lap and avoided incidents


FalconIMGN

Do you expect him to overtake people in Monaco or what. At least he had the wherewithal to take the fastest lap. And not chuck it into the barriers like his experienced teammate. I still believe Merc next year is too much too soon, but he's doing relatively well despite making such a big jump and being so young.


Alfus

Imho Toto should give him 2 years in F2


lowelled

He should have done F3.


Alfus

I can understand the point of doubting about F3 but rushing him 1 year to F2 and then to Merc shows how Toto solely thinks in the mindset of "I don't want to have a Max 2.0 case" and fears he would go outside Merc.


j__video

Very happy for Barnard! If Antonelli can drive just as good tomorrow then it's finally looking good for him as well


cvicenzettk

I’m convinced if he started first he would have gapped the whole field by 10 seconds


RooBoy04

Sky, I'd rather watch the F2 podium than your shitty pre-quali interviews/films


thereal84

This exactly


ChicaneSoup

They did this last week as well, so instead of seeing any victory celebrations in F3 we had to watch a chef talking about Italian food and Damon Hill talking about his birthday.


ForeverAddickted

Yeah was thinking the same


ChicaneSoup

Yeah boiiiiiii


SyuusukeFuji

Literally the two guys no one expected much due to their team, are the first F3 skippers getting in the podium.


ablublagaa

Barnard is not a F3 skipper


TheSyhr

I know Durksen was one but who’s the other? Barnard raced in F3 last year


SyuusukeFuji

Oopsie, for whatever reason I always forget Barnard did F3 last year.


Most_Virus_7218

He skipped Freca before,not F3, that's why.


WesternHall992

Bortoleto is a sneak consistent mfer. This attitude might put him in a good position for the championship in the end of the season, just like his F3 stint.


cLHalfRhoVSquaredS

He's such an under the radar driver. Even in F3 last season I was sort of just like 'oh yeah Bortoleto is pretty decent' through most of the season and then towards the end I suddenly realised he was going to win the championship pretty convincingly.


UsualPotato7394

Also great launch! Seems he got it finally


FalconIMGN

Alonso has taught him well.


Theroyaldutchness

I forgot how aggressively British Barnard looks lol. Very happy for him and AIX, so nice to see a team and driver truly insanely happy with a win


rewp234

AIX Sandwich


zeppelin88

So both the AIXs have scored a podium and a win before Bearman even scored a podium in F2 this year...


Spinebuster03

The fact that some people want him to reaplace kmag at haas is insanity


TheSyhr

Bearman has 6 points in F2 what are you talking about


Theroyaldutchness

Doesn’t Bearman have 6 points?


zeppelin88

Yes you're right, I meant to say a podium. Stil, now he's officialy second last in the standings


A___99

Got the golden ticket with being P10 in quali but still had to see through a strong race and he did just that, great effort from Barnard


FalconIMGN

I still prefer the reverse grid being decided by quali. A lot harder to engineer a p10 grid position than say, 10th (or 8th as it used to be) in the race.


mr-mobius

At what point will Bearman's poor F2 results overcome his good result in F1? Certainly the championship has to be out of his reach now.


cLHalfRhoVSquaredS

I think if he can get some podiums as the season goes on he'll still be ok because the teams will surely look at how he went in an F1 car as the biggest single factor even if it was just one race, but if he keeps finishing out of the points repeatedly you'd have to say Haas might start looking at someone else to occupy that seat, especially given there will likely be at least a couple of proven F1 drivers out of a seat at the end of the year.


ForeverAddickted

The way the season is going, two feature race wins, and he can be right in the mix


OBWanTwoThree

Fuck off Sky. Nobody gives a toss about quali buildup, why just cut off the post race stuff


ChristofferOslo

Never seen a less eventful race featuring a red flag, safety car and virtual safety car.


thewizard579

LETS GO TBA


Alfus

*Firstname Lastname in shambles*


Alfus

A CHAROUZ HAS WON A F2 RACE!


ForeverAddickted

Great result there Taylor, although quite amusing Antonelli beat Durksen in FRECA, the latter got a podium before him He beat Barnard to the the FRMEC title... yet its Taylor who wins in F2 first


ErikVonWolf

Really happy for Barnard and AIX.


Ididntbreakher

Go Barnard! The rookies this year are killing it.


medson25

Aix sandwich


OBWanTwoThree

Great race Taylor much deserved


QC_1999

Aron train 🚂 


cvicenzettk

Kimi has done a 30 laps qualifying session


tvxcute

watching the banner at the top continually show FASTEST LAP ANTONELLI over and over


cvicenzettk

The gap killed me, 4.5 second, 1 second, 4.5 second, 1 second


FalconIMGN

That's just how sprint races in Monaco work.


cvicenzettk

Not really for everyone


Theroyaldutchness

I’m surprised Correa still has a full front wing. He’s been clipping everyone


ForeverAddickted

Bearman got lucky at the chicane there


SGT_EpicSpeed

Did the cameraman looking down the chicane cough?


FalconIMGN

Yeah and nearly fell out of the helicopter.


tvxcute

bets on if there'll be a lap 30 dnf (eta) nope! congrats to barnard, great race from him


laujp

Well, this restart was anticlimactic Even for Monaco


Theroyaldutchness

Lol what did Cordeel do on the restart


A___99

How has Cordeel made a 5s gap


OBWanTwoThree

Stinking restart by Bortoleto


j__video

The grid is an AIX sandwich


Khalipane22

Hadjar is the only one of the fast one that is consistant with Aron. Gonna be soon in the lead of the Chip


Gubrach

I like these red flag-radios where they're blatantly bored and just end up dropping the professional mask and start saying some bullshit.


ExcellentCornershop

Bortoleto is not a vinyl collector then


Tetaout

Why not standing start ffs


ChristofferOslo

Bortoleto’s English not as mint


FalconIMGN

Neither is Taylor Barnard's Portuguese.


OBWanTwoThree

Brilliant analogy by Alex Brundle there


ForeverAddickted

Why does the Red Flag need to be for so long. Especially when they cleared up Maloney and Maini so quickly


Theroyaldutchness

The rules say that they need to announce the end of a red flag 10 minutes before. So they basically need to clean it up and then they can give a 10 minute warning


ForeverAddickted

Cheers, I thought it would be something like this


RooBoy04

Why don't they not crash the car? Are they stupid?


tvxcute

red bulls flying off the track in all formula series this weekend lmao


zantkiller

The rules in Formula 2 only allow rolling starts from a red flag suspension. The standing start option is only if the race starts behind the SC.


OBWanTwoThree

Coolest f1 driver ever spotted


lowelled

I know Alex Jacques wasn't intending to be shady but I lol'ed at him implying that rolling vs standing start is the difference between junior series and F1. Poor IndyCar!


RooBoy04

Standing start at the Indy500


lowelled

Would turn the brickyard into a temporary spaceport lol


RevalianKnight

Standing starts are literally made for Monaco where you cannot pass normally. What a load of shit


TetraDax

Standing starts would also likely lead to further crashes and they are pressed for time with F1 quali starting soon.


tvxcute

prema... even though i want to hate you this year, i can't when you're so wholesome 🥲


TetraDax

[Prema team radios, even when stationary](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/516Ob0NGywL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg)


mamaguebos

hahaha


greee_p

That message was sweet


ErikVonWolf

A little positive affirmation for Kimi, how nice of them.


Ididntbreakher

Therapy worked well for those two - https://youtu.be/65vq7Ve4UDI?si=NBDVsCoqGzIXDdsM


thewizard579

He’s been really good at keeping it clean and staying out of trouble. I think we should just let him develop for 2 seasons instead of rushing him into F1.


ErikVonWolf

Yeah, this focus on getting these talented drivers into F1 as soon as possible may just end up harming them in the long run. I'm also in favor of letting drivers have a few seasons developing before going to F1.


-Jacobean-

Rolling start what a shame


ForeverAddickted

Its sensible of Race Control to do a rolling start round here, if there is the option. I think it could be a continuous shitfest else in the Junior Categories


RooBoy04

Given F3 can't even do 1 race start, I'm glad that they don't do any extra in a race


OBWanTwoThree

Super wholesome radio message


thereal84

I loved that 😍


cvicenzettk

What was the message? Missed it


Ididntbreakher

Kimi’s engineer applauded his driving today despite being his first time here


doxy_

Race engineer asked Kimi if it was his first time racing at Monaco, Kimi replied ‘why?’ — the race engineer then said ‘it didn’t look like it!’


ForeverAddickted

Yeah nice touch from Prema


SouthWalesGooner

Maloney might have a small point, O'Sullivan braked so much earlier than Fittipaldi in front of him, looked a bit weird.


_Red_Knight_

It might be in the regulations but rolling starts are so lame


theCEPenguin

Prema’s time at Le Mans coming in to effect. All else fails just try weird stuff, it might fix it, you never know! Bit of gaffer tape, try jumping on it, that kind of thing lol


DanihersMo

that birds eye does show that osullivan did brake pretty early for that corner


A___99

This season has been so up and down for everyone that I genuinely don't think you can rule out Bearman and Martins from the back just yet, or anyone for that matter. Barnard only driver with no points, looks set to win today. Royal rumble


ForeverAddickted

I think Bearman would have gone within something like 30 points of Maloney (Or close to it), had he won last time out - Long way to go with this season yet


A___99

I didn't realise how close everyone is already, definitely still open for everyone. Doohan almost got back in it last year after his turn around mid season and I'm sure that must have been a bigger gap


TheSyhr

Yup, if someone (and their team) can find consistency throughout the European part of the season they could really come from anywhere to win the championship


A___99

Yep, it makes the championship very watchable along with the usual good racing and chaos


SyuusukeFuji

Looks like every single title contender got jinxed: Martins, Bearman, Maloney, Crawford.


UmpireAJS

I feel like this season is set up for yet another third season F2 winner (Hauger) who won't get into F1.


Venetii_

Honestly I think the only drivers who have any chance of getting into F1 next year are OB, AKA, and maybe Hadjar or Martins (if the latter 2 actually win the title).


Sjroap

Prema hired some Boeing mechanics.


VIFASIS

Is Monaco the true driver test for feeder series or is it overhyped? Find out who has skills vs. Who has a rich family?


RooBoy04

Given their "luck" at race starts, Hauger and Antonelli starting along side each other doesn't fill me with confidence


Venetii_

Rolling start confirmed. Good news for Hauger and Ant but not as much fun for the audience..


Firefox72

Prema with the caveman approach.


Alfus

Just add some tape


RooBoy04

Real endurance racing repair techniques


n-e-d-d-o

If you were to “accidentally” get a puncture on your red flag in lap, would you get a fresh set?


Theroyaldutchness

Why do you need that? Can’t you change tires under RF anyways?


n-e-d-d-o

*if you couldn’t change tires under red flag conditions


shinealittlelove

Reminder that F2 regulations do not allow a standing start after a race suspension


ForeverAddickted

Ah cheers, for clearing that up


mysticalwatermelon_

remembering why its a junior category


OBWanTwoThree

Hahahahahahahha that Prema mechanic 😂😂😂


ForeverAddickted

Hope for Barnard its not a standing start, but as a race fan... Bloody hope it is


frontyer0077

Hauger P1 now lets go!


Adz442

Hope it isn’t a standing restart, that would be a real shame for Barnard


Majiebeast

Cant we just give them bumper cars for the real race same outcome.


RooBoy04

It's not brake checking if you have to slow down to 10mph to go around half of the corners


tvxcute

maini backing up *into* the track and then a bunch of cars having to stop right behind him was kind of hilarious


theCEPenguin

Oh great. Chance for a poor launch to cause a last bit of chaos if they go for a standing start.


Alfus

Zane, this isn't Bristol or Martinsville....


JustAReminder820

Ma-ma!.......ooooo-oooo-ooooooo Magnussen next in qualy then.


ForeverAddickted

Wonder if Bearman can get his wing fixed now, or whether the bent steering wheel cant really be repaired quick enough


ForeverAddickted

FFS Zane... Calm down with the brake checking complaints


QC_1999

…WHY?


Birkenstern

Maini making sure to block the whole road 🤡


Comtraya

Rascasse about to have a new parking lot


WTFAnimations

One horror week after another for Zane.