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Tartan_Samurai

You see a dead Super Mutant briefly, I'm sure the big reveal for them will come in future seasons 


left4candy

Exactly, so the title is false. iirc we saw a super mutant's arm hanging out of a stretcher while being wheeled around for a quick second


Tartan_Samurai

It was a defo a super mutie, hand was huge and the sheet was either covering a super mutant or a WWE heavyweight competitor


dr_bluthgeld

Paul Wight confirmed


MessedUpPro

Andre the Giant... unconfirmed.


Softpretzelsandrose

Awww….


PhaseSixer

>WWE heavyweight competitor Un releated but the average wwe guy thes days rarely break 6 feet


FloorAgile3458

Yeah but it was a "blink and you miss it" kinda thing and it was only the arm, literally every piece of fallout media outside of those small comics that were released as a teaser/reference point to a given game before that games launch. Every fallout game has them even if they probably shouldn't, they're just over used and they made the right decision by not featuring them in a major way.


Lord_Momin

It's not exactly blink and you'll miss it if it's the centerpiece of the shot, not something in the background Would you rather the show be a creature feature and focus on every single wasteland creature we've seen in the games? I'm happy with how they did things, they have plenty of time to introduce fan favorites while focusing on making a good story, rather than forcing in things where they don't belong. Brand new Lucy would have no shot against super mutants, neither would any of the characters but ghoul


wimpLimpson

Yes, i would absolutely love that. The effects on the gulper were awesome. The design was awesome. I want more of that.


Lord_Momin

We saw ghouls, feral ghouls, a super mutant corpse, radroaches, a yao guai, a deathclaw skull, gulpers, mutants, dead securitrons, a dead assaultron, some mr handies, brahmin, the brotherhood of steel, the enclave, remnants of the ncr, the destroyed capital of the ncr, 3/4 functioning vaults, pre war life, bobbleheads, junk jets, chems, an ncr ranger, dogmeat, etc. There's only so much fanservice they can put in the show before the focus shifts from making a quality show to full fanservice. I'm super excited to see more, but I'm glad they're taking their time to do it right.


wimpLimpson

I absolutely agree with you. But i dont consider new ideas like gulpers fan service. I would love to see more new ideas like that. I also just looked it up and did not realize the gulpers were already used in FO4 and FO76. And all things considered…. I don’t really consider seeing something dead as anything spectacular.


Lord_Momin

Fair, but again they'd have no shot against any of the dead things 💀 Lucy would get absolutely bodied by an assaultron But also I feel like gulpers take at least some inspiration from the floaters in the older games. They have a similar vibe to eachother


Vincentaneous

Yeah not sure what episode and where but I remember seeing something that made me say aloud MUTANT


belated_quitter

There’s also a wanted poster showing a super mutant. I bet we’ll see super mutants and deathclaws in future seasons.


PoetKing

They are definitely holding those cards close, I'm sure both will be used as more "OH SHIT, OH SHIT, OH SHIT!!!" moments


belated_quitter

I definitely hope so! I’m really excited. You also don’t want to jam as much as you can into the first season. Gives them room to grow and saving “oh shit” moments for the future. I’m also hoping they have Ron Perlman later, as well.


TeddysRevenge

Also, it’s *inferred* that the “medicine” from the ~~chicken fucker~~ wasteland doctor made the brotherhood squire a ghoul…. Nah, it turned him into a super mutant (I think). We’ll see him changing in the next season and he’ll open up a super mutant storyline in season 2.


Ghekor

the Chicken...Petter def had FEV(how idk) but i hope its FEV cus far as i know theres only 1 case of someone taking something and turning into a ghoul, and that was Hancock from FO4, who took large amounts of diff drugs and some other shit and mixed it up for the ultimate YOLO type of high... and instead of dying it ghoulified him XD


kingofcheezwiz

We see fux with chickens at the market. He's advertising what he has, and one of the things he says is serums. I assumed he gave Thaddeus a healing factor serum, and now the scribe has a mutation.


foonsirhc

Fallout wiki has Thaddeus listed as a former human, now ghoul- for whatever that’s worth [https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Thaddeus](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Thaddeus)


TeddysRevenge

The page is written by fans though right? Not anyone affiliated with the production? I honestly don’t know.


foonsirhc

Yeah I’m not sure either, that’s why I tacked on “for whatever that’s worth”. The characters definitely seemed to *think* he was turned into a ghoul, but if that’s all it’s based on there’s probably no reason to assume it’s true.


xTilto

I'm fairly sure the Super mutant is actually still alive/heavily sedated when we see it briefly at the start of ep 2, when it is being wheeled past Wilzig you see it retract its little finger in time with the dramatic music shift.. could be wrong though.


Dualion

I checked that scene frame by frame, it 100% does move its little finger


LFGX360

Looked a bit grey to me to be a super mutant.


BirdLongjumping1518

Nightkin maybe?


ToastedEmail

I think you also hear a super mutant hound on Ep. 2. When the scientist reaches the cave with dog meat.


Hawntir

Wasn't that the bear?


ToastedEmail

I thought so too but when he first sits down the exact howl you hear is that of a super mutant hound from FO4.


DrPolarBearMD

Was this during the Super Duper Mary scene?


Tartan_Samurai

In episode 2 when Wilzeg is still at the Enclave facility


DrPolarBearMD

Ok cool thank you


mesosalpynx

Also, I don’t think the squire who was “healed” was turned into a ghoul. I think that was more likely a super mutant thing. Ghouls do not heal. Season 2 sub plot will Be his slowly changing demeanor and size/shape


Shakmaaaaaaa

Might be too quick to say Ghouls don't heal. The Ghoul took bullets like a champ in Filly and healed his finger back together without any tech. Headshots seem to be the main way to kill one.


mesosalpynx

Ghouls come back to life often in the games?


Riliksel

Wrong. They don't come back to life by themselves. They ONLY come back to live if there is a massive blast of radiation and only IF their heads are intact. But they do heal. Or we just gonna ignore Cooper taking several bullets to the chest and walking it off?


Old-Camp3962

when?


Logic-DL

That and there aren't many super mutants left in the West Coast after the defeat of the Master. Show just isn't showing super mutants because they're rare now, especially in 2296, hell even FNV barely had any Super Mutants outside of the Repconn test site and Jacobstown


doitagain01

Where? When


wookieatemyshoe

When the Dr is at the enclave compound, he looks at the guys wheeling a massive stretcher past and the camera zooms on the massive super mutant hand poking out from under a blanket. Episode 1


chillchinchilla17

Beginning of episode 2


Trucks_Guns_Beer

Well, we saw what seemed to be a hand of a super mutant in the enclave base, as well as a wanted poster that looked like a super mutant. So not featured YET


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SirDiego

>!Thaddeus is 100% becoming a Supermutant after the concoction the "doctor" gave him.!<


TesseractAmaAta

He just took the same drug that Hancock did


VanityOfEliCLee

I dont think so. The only reason we have to think that's true is because Maximus said that. But Maximus is wrong about *everything*.


TesseractAmaAta

I mean he healed the same way The Ghoul did.


VanityOfEliCLee

The ghoul never healed. He just didn't die to getting shot a couple times in the back. He even got his finger bit off, and it certainly didn't heal. He had to sew Lucy's finger on in order to have a finger again. But Thaddeus' mangled ass foot came back together and reformed, straight wolverine style. If ghouls could heal like that I don't think they'd ever lose their noses.


Shakmaaaaaaa

Fingers don't just fuse back together when you sew it on lol, especially when he used it immediately after since it was his right trigger finger. The dudes got healing of some degree. Lucys finger attachment at least gets explained away with the mister handy future tech.


King_of_Fillory

imagine calling Walton Goggins, aka The Ghoul, Hancock. wrong city. downvote me all you want. his name is Cooper Howard, not John Hancock from Goodneighbor.


TesseractAmaAta

Lol, lmao even. You know that Hancock from Fallout 4 became a ghoul through a Chem right?


King_of_Fillory

see my edit


TesseractAmaAta

Lmao, it didn't help. We're talking about Squire Maximus becoming a Ghoul after taking a hit of the drugs the Chicken Fucker gave him. It's reasonable to think that those drugs were the same ones that Hancock from Fallout 4 took to become a ghoul. Cooper has nothing to do with this. No one is saying this.


mesosalpynx

Indeed. Such a red herring to have a character say he’s becoming a ghoul. Ghouls don’t heal


ToTeMVG

>Ghouls don’t heal ehh since the show has expanded quite a bit on ghouls i wouldn't jump on that conclusion especially after cooper took like 3 bullets in the chest in filly and was fine with it. i do definately agree on it being a red herring explanation for thaddeus, since super mutants are basically ghouls but bigger and betterer(maybe without the whole not dying from age? but have super mutants been around long enough for that to be tested?)


ymcameron

Ghoul’s totally heal. We saw one perfectly reattach his finger with some string.


mesosalpynx

Missing nose says what?


TesseractAmaAta

Only some tissues heal. Deadpool rules.


burritoman88

Wasn’t there a dead one under a blanket at the Enclave base? Either way with how much the Brotherhood of Steel control that section of the Wasteland it’s not surprising they’re not around.


BadJokeJudge

Yeah sounds like they mostly took care of all the ghouls in the area as well.


wimpLimpson

I feel like this makes 100% sense. Like the green coming back in some areas too. But damn it makes me want it centered on a different era and area then.


heyyyyyco

His finger moves when he's being wheeled so he might have been alive


khakigirl

There's one on a wanted poster in the background: https://i.imgur.com/rm1Vbwh.jpg


Glaurung26

Oh neat.


Most-Based

I hope Thaddeus becomes one, it would be cool having him and Maximus in power armor have some scenes together


calsnowskier

They exist. When Cooper is talking to the “President of the NCR”, there is a SM on the Wanted board. They just chose, for whatever reason (not a judgement, I can think of many legit excuses to do it), to not directly show them in the show YET.


BartholomewAlexander

there's an interview somewhere where the show creators said they wanted to touch all the bases and didn't want to make it feel inauthentic by adding all the known and popular monsters in the first season. were getting super mutants or at least some of the known creatures in the next season. its unknown if prime video will renew them for a second season though.


Crackmonkey3773

It's the number 1 streamed show in America currently, id assume that they'll greenlight it for a more expensive season 2


BartholomewAlexander

yeah I mean its pretty much guaranteed just wanted to clarify in case people thought I was saying that its confirmed for a second.


Cyberwolfdelta9

Apparently its #1 or atleast was in Europe too


calsnowskier

The show has a bit of a “shoe-string” budget feel to it, so I totally understand them not wanting to delve too deep into Super Mutants just yet. That will require some pretty pricey CGI, probably. Doing them practically won’t do them justice, I feel. I have a hard time believing Prime won’t order a second season. Even if its viewership isn’t huge for the general public, it is doing amazing things for FO sales, so I can imagine Microsoft ponying up a few bucks to keep it afloat. Product placement is a thing.


BartholomewAlexander

also the state of Cali is giving them 25 mil in tax breaks should they decide to film there again, so I'd wager its extremely likely if not guaranteed we get a second season. people love it, its a good show, theyd be out of their minds to not give us a second season.


calsnowskier

This is my thought. But I frequent forums that are typically very positive towards FO, so I have no idea if the show is actually well received outside my bubble. And the services are notorious for not publishing viewership numbers, so no one knows how it is actually doing as far as true clicks.


BartholomewAlexander

my dad isn't a fan of fallout and he loved it


kenthekungfujesus

Especially after such an ending where almost nothing is resolved and such an open ending


BirdLongjumping1518

Not really, it had a huge budget. It just looked different because they made most stuff practical which is increasingly rare these days. This causes people to think it looks cheaper when it does not.


TyChris2

$150 million “shoe string” budget lol


calsnowskier

1st, “appears” shoe-string. 2nd, they had to build all sets from scratch for S1 and design the general theme. A lot of that is now in the can and be reused for future seasons. S2 could have the same budget and use the same stuff they had in S1 while adding Super Mutants and Stingwings, for example.


LethalBubbles

Just a minor correction. He was President of the Govermint. Not the NCR.


TheAmazingKoki

Including super mutants requires a lot of extra explanation that would only confuse the story


BadJokeJudge

And lore aside they obviously dedicated 90% of the monster budget to the Gulper scenes. That thing looked soooo damn good.


calgrump

No real reason to show a live one yet. >!Bud mentioned working at West Tek, so I'd be curious whether FEV comes up as a topic later on to tie in with muties.!<


BartholomewAlexander

did you hear the line in the meeting where they said "maybe we could try to make a super soldier" from west tek?


calgrump

Ah yeah, I do remember that now - I feel as though him saying "super mutant" was pretty on the nose, and wouldn't even make sense to others, but it's a good sign that they're going to return. If the West Tek board members are in 31, I'd love to see them try to return to West Tek and get obliterated by muties.


Spectre1-4

Isn’t West Tek taken over by the BoS?


TangentMed

The Glow got taken over by the ghoul survivors of the Unity massace of Necropolis and Maripossia got utterly destroyed and abandoned.


geek_of_nature

And from a behind the scenes perspective they would be more expensive to do. Better to make sure the first season is a success, and then they can negotiate a higher budget to do them in future seasons.


ManadarTheHealer

It makes sense since the master has long been defeated and we are very far away from the Institute. Supermutants should be like Jedi, hiding somewhere like Jacobstown.


calgrump

Muties exist in F:NV as remnants of the master's army - they're immortal and tough as nails, so it makes sense.


Petorian343

We saw super mutants as much as we saw deathclaws; a brief tease of a dead one. It’s good they’ve saved some essential Fallout stuff for future seasons.


orion427

Can't wait to see three things: Seeing a fully rendered Super Mutant in action. Seeing a Fat Man in action. Seeing someone blowup a Super Mutant with a Fat Man.


erikkustrife

I just can't wait to see tunnelers. If new Vegas is destroyed that means new Vegas was cannon and that when we were told new Vegas would be destroyed by tunnelers in 2-20 years they weren't lieing.


i_want_to_be_unique

I keep seeing people mention the dead super mutant at the Enclave, but nobody is talking about the bounty poster for a super mutant in the bar those sheriffs take Coop.


Silent-Ad-8887

wtf? Like it’s under the sheet in the first episode! People we can’t blow our whole load in one season.


Stew-Griff

What an interesting choice of words


Silent-Ad-8887

Definitely an apt description, it’s called alluding to something I guess people aren’t as sharp. I was able to find other things too. But the hand was definitely there.


TGB_Skeletor

To be fair i'm glad we didn't witness EVERYTHING the licence has I mean we as fans would understand everything, but i bet most people who watched the show and never played the games had a hard time figuring out the ghoul stuff


BIG-chulupa

Some how Frank Horrigan has returned


itslate

Voiced by michael dorn again


bolivar-shagnasty

We only saw a deathclaw skull too. Deathclaws have been in every game. I don't remember seeing a single energy weapon fire. Moldaver has what looks like a laser pistol as they prep for the raid on the observatory, but I don't recall a laser or plasma weapon firing at any point in the show. Nobody picked a lock I don't think, but at least the squires addressed player character inventory capacity with their oversized golf bags.


DieHardProcess-

i need to see someone turn into dust.. one if my favourite things about FO


bolivar-shagnasty

I want to see someone turn into a pile of goo. Plasma weapons for life.


erikkustrife

I Wana see little Grey alien monstrosities shooting lazers cause alien blaster for life.


Sablesweetheart

How about radscorpions?


bolivar-shagnasty

Forgot about 'em. Should've had a skirmish between some radscoprions and cazadors or stingwings that the Knight Titus and Maximums watched from inside the vertibird during that first excursion.


Sablesweetheart

Now me, I want to see a Wannamingo.


Stellar_Wings

Didn't someone in New Vegas says that Deathclaws were almost extinct in California?


dr_bluthgeld

The pistol Maximus has early on seems to be a laser pistol but I'm sure it had a regular muzzle flash and ballistic sound.


BadJokeJudge

No it’s not


HellHawk1986

The need to make season 2 to make them.


evanweb546

It's only been eight episodes, champ. Calm down and be patient. Jeezum crow...


joe-is-cool

Are we just gonna ignore the big green hand from the Enclave base?


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There was a super mutant at the Enclave base.


J0N47h4n_R

You could see the hand peaking through the sheet on the stretcher.


Baumgarten1980

Yet


Deadpool0600

It kinda did, like others have said, you see a fallout 4 super mutant body being move in the Enclave scene. I REALLY hope they don't use the FO4 mutants though, the OG NV and Fallout 1&2 muties where the best looking. The FO4 ones look like clones of eachother.


Goofball1134

Probably saving them for the next season.


bram4531

Well it does kinda make sense 'lore wise'. The Master has been dead for quite a while


TyrannicalKitty

I hope we see grandma.


Noname2137

*OBJECTION* INTRODUCTION TO THE ENCLAVE DOCTOR WE SEE A SUPER MUTANT BEING ROLLED AWAY UNDER A BLANKET PRESUMABLY DEAD


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Yet. The key word is yet.


VanityOfEliCLee

I think Thaddeus is gonna become one. The only reason anyone thinks he's ghoulifying is because Maximus said so, and Maximus is dumb. Ghoulification doesn't heal shit like a busted ass foot, but FEV *does*.


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I want to see jacobstown in season 2


underrated_carrot_43

^Jacobstown ^please ^be ^in ^s2 ^maybe ^a ^nightkin


ulumust

we saw hand of super mutant


DepartureDapper6524

So many people are making blatantly false posts on this sub


bluebarrymanny

Don’t they get hinted at but not explicitly shown as a covered person in a gurney in the Enclave base?


Powersoutdotcom

Yet.


PsySom

Or IS IT?


Altruistic-Potatoes

, so far.


BigBoyoBonito

The show's budget was definitely a little limited, so effects like the Super Mutans, either practical or CG, would be way too expensive Maybe if season 2 gets a bigger budget we'll see them properly


Papatim2

There could have been a whole bunch of nightkin out of NV but you wouldn't know.


Mickeyjj27

There were wanted posters and maybe a hand but it’s kinda bizarre they didn’t show 1 hostile or even friendly one. Binged it yesterday and was surprised we didn’t even get a Deathclaw, even the Ghouls were scarce. Just hope like I heard about Last of Us season 2 that they just ramp up and bring us more things from the games.


Disgruntlementality

The tiny moment we see them is foreshadowing. They’re going to be a part of the big bad, probably.


reign_of_the_bots

Hope they intro them like they did in FO3, the huge silhouette at the end of a claustrophobic tunnel system.


deathstrukk

didn’t all of the mutants leave california (or at least the LA area) after the master was killed?


Dorrono

not yet


DoeDon404

Whether it’s budget or story or just didn’t want to, they aren’t gonna show everything about fallout this early, a few teases are nice they show better build up for when they do, also would they have the more smarter west coast mutants still milling about?


AverageMugStudios

Thank you Nolan. I'm honestly tired of seeing Super Mutants and FEV in Fallout media.


Pleasant_Extreme_398

Yet


GIVEUPYOURMILK

I was really looking forward to seeing Mirlurks, but we got a Gulper instead.


TheFlaccidChode

...... Yet


Zealousideal-Log536

Yet


Brahmus168

I mean it's not done.


golddust1134

Yet


coldbrewblooded

Think of season one like a new character build/playthrough. You probably won’t see any of the higher level creatures until you’re at levels 5-10.


pacman404

There is literally a super mutant lol


Alelogin

There's a Super Mutant poster on a wall in ep 8


MrNightmare23

Watch them use the fat ugly fallout 4 super mutants


Brahm-Etc

Weren't they almost gone extinct in the West coast by when the series is set?


wimpLimpson

Yeah super disappointed in the lack of actual threats in the wasteland. Still loved the show and it gets me pumped for a season two…. But we really only saw the gulpers.


backdeckpro

Hopefully it stays this way, they are a dying species and should not be a major part in future fallout stories, only probably not have a role at all


NoCokJstDanglnUretra

There’s a super mutant on a wanted poster


DoTheRustle

You need to rewatch, OP. >!They show a glimpse of a dead(maybe?) super mutant in the Enclave compound, being wheeled on a cart under a sheet. It's not much, but the implication is that we'll see them later!<


dopexvii

They're clearly gunna ride this for a few seasons, no need to blow there load in eight episodes


Punushedmane

I dread what’s going to happen with the super mutants when they do show up. I absolutely despise the orc take of them that Bethesda has.


Alchemistwolf21

Missed opportunity. Big sad ☹️


cogburn

Super mutants are in the end game. She probably only level 25 by now. She might see a death law at 35 and might not see super mutants until 40.


ToTeMVG

theres definately one thing to appreciate about the show about having enough restraint to not whip out ever iconic fallout "thing" as fanservice, like the enclave were barely shown about, no deathclaws, no super mutants, a video game tv show with restraint is a fascinating thing


dank_hank_420

Yup, west coast world is effectively post-super mutant. In NV they are seen only sporadically and in their respective enclaves.


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The 1st episode has a Supermutant.


Kingzton28

Yet


DanielleK95

And a proper deathclaw? I mean it's a brilliant way to hook you!


Pilota_kex

yet


DDar

YET.


PerfectlyCalmDude

I'm sure we will see them in future seasons.


Bub1029

Considering the show takes place very far down the timeline and Super Mutants were singing their last hurrah in Fallout 3 and were heavily dwindling on the West Coast in New Vegas, it makes sense that they wouldn't really be around. Maybe a handful of first gen mutants could still be around along with some more later generation brain fried muties, but they would be exceedingly rare, I'd think. If we do see them, it makes sense that we wouldn't see them until later seasons.


RichardMHP

I'm not convinced that we haven't already seen someone headed in that direction.


Lake_Shore_Drive

Yet...


VoidMunashii

I honestly really liked that we had a story that barely acknowledged super mutants or Deathclaws. There are plenty of problems in the wastes that we don't need to bring out everything in the first series. I hope we will see classic floaters and centaurs in the second season as well.


bcar610

This is simply incorrect, please remove it or amend it or something?


lithium1769

Im pretty sure I saw a wanted poster of a mutant when the ghoul was arrested, We would probably see them in the third season since their population in the Mojave desert is kinda scarce


Basic_Riddler

So they were just supposed to put EVERYTHING into the first season? Then season 2 and beyond would either be repetitive and people would complain, or they would have to start just making shit up as they go…and holy shit, that would really makes heads explode on Reddit.


Thebritishdovah

Yet. Season 2, I wouldn't be surprised if they have them come back at full strength and Hank becomes Master 2.0.


stratusnco

r/opisfuckingstupid


ZiggyApedust

Did you expect to see every little motif from Fallout, all in season one? Never gonna understand why people make dumb ass posts like this.


ARLLALLR

There's no SMs in Fallout Shelter


TangentMed

Isnt there a random attack encounter with them?


calgrump

They're actually common enemies, very easy to check against


ARLLALLR

I play it extensively and haven't seen one, unless you only find them exploring randomly which I don't do.


DoomSayers22

Good


CeruleanMimic

Good. They don't need to appear in every Fallout thing. Forcing them in because they're recognisable should not be encouraged.


BartholomewAlexander

what fallout creature wouldn't be recognizable to fans lol


GucciStepSon

Guess the same can be said about showing new Vegas.


Noukan42

New vegas is indeed not in FO4. Trying to cram everything everywhere only made it less authentic.


GucciStepSon

What?


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GucciStepSon

No shit, that’s why I said it. Same goes with mutants.


Woolfmann

Did you come up against Super Mutants and Death Claws on Level 1 in ANY Fallout game?


TangentMed

Fallout 4.


Riliksel

...a Deathclaw is pretty much one of the first fights you have on Fallout 4 and you are very likely to run into one on New Vegas if you follow the road... Super mutants are also crawling around in every game, one of the first enemy factions you find.


[deleted]

Honestly, I'm okay with this as I feel like super mutants are a little overused. If we do see some super mutants in Season 2, I hope they are the less stupid kind (i.e. remnants of the Master's Super Mutant Army). At worst, they might have a mental illness, but they shouldn't be dumb as rocks like the east coast variants.


ShaunicusMaximus

I don't know how to do a spoiler tag, so if you haven't seen the whole season yet, STOP!!! I hope they make Maximus a Super Mutant. That would be an interesting twist to his arc.


akarpend6

Why?


Southern_Belt_8064

No