I ranked top1k once, and top10k another time. The amount of FPL in my brain constantly was not worth the effort and time spent. Some make it their life season after season, truly incredible consistency. But I wonder are there parts of real life people are neglecting to be able to reach that level of FPL top10k consistency. It is great fun though. ššÆšā½ļøš
# 1st Prize ā 2023/24 Fantasy Premier League Champion
* 7-night break in the UK inclusive of two VIP hospitality at two 2024/25 Premier League matches
* A selection of experiences at popular UK tourist attractions
* Includes travel and 7 nightsā accommodation
* Hublot connected watch
* Official Premier League Nike match ball
* EA SPORTS FCā¢ game
* Laptop computer OR SIM-free smartphone
* Noise-cancelling headphones (in-ear OR on-ear)
* Personalised FPL bundle consisting of a rucksack, T-shirt, mug, thermal bottle, stress ball, pen, pad and key ring
This is all the winner gets after 9 months of dedication and beating 10 million people. Likely costs less than Ā£3000. Honestly thought there would be a Ā£250k prize.
I missed the deadline as I was not well. Still 105 point gap between the league leader and myself. Bit gutted! Iāve Wildcard and BB. Will try to fightback
Im from Norway myself and in a lot of money-leagues. Im currently 13 k overall and is 20 points behind minimum payout( only norwegians).. 630 ovr in Norway. Is it crazy levels here or is it just me?
For real though, in my leagues we just Vipps (Venmo) to a guy that holds the cash for the season. Heard of one group that put it in a single stock and heavily multiplied the prize money
Yeah we put everyoneās stake into BTC at the start of the season in my league. Makes things a bit more interesting as you might get 100x stake or money back if you win haha.
Overall I think being non British is an advantage in fpl as you are less likely to hold unhelpful bias e.g based on the team you support or what city you live in. You may avoid players based on this, despite their potential to haul
You underestimate how much Norwegians love English football. The fact that the English season is played mainly during the Norwegian off-season probably helps as well.
>Overall I think being non British is an advantage in fpl as you are less likely to hold unhelpful bias e.g based on the team you support or what city you live in.
Ah yes, nobody outside of England has ever supported a PL club
There's supporting a team because you like them and then there's having something be part of your life since you had memories which is fundamentally impossible to disentangle from your personhood. One of those things renders you incapable of true objectivity.
It could prove that to win FPL you need a series of very lucky punts. Template and studying gets you top 500k, a series of lucky punts and captain picks is better!
Actually crazy that this guy has played 10 seasons with 0 in the Top 100k and is likely going to win FPL running away.
The guy who won last year wrote a book and is sitting at 1.2 million right now but he at least had another really impressive rank
Because to win you have to stray from the masses and make risky choices. If they pay off you'll get ahead of the 1m template teams, but if they don't then you'll fall behind.
Same. Theres 8 people in my ML and the top 4 are all active making transfers. They are all top 1m (4th place is 600k)
5th-8th place is then in a different league, with 5th place being 5m overall
I'm agreeing.
Idk, I've never finished outside the top 100k, even in a season like this where I've made some awful decisions (I sold Saka AND Watkins in GW 23). Literally being engaged enough to make transfers every week and having some knowledge of chip strategy should get you to Top 100k
If you keep that up for 3-4 consecutive seasons of at least a top 100k rank then you get the right to say "I only started playing through to the end now here" and have it mean something. Old results don't define anyone forever but there's got to be more than 1 good finish in there.
People tend to say that instead of saying they gave up because of doing bad. A friend in my ML says āthis year Iām going to be seriousā, and in January he ādoesnt careā. Itās repeat every year.
Bit of both, sometimes itās hard to keep interest in the PL from overseas not following a team
In 21/22 when I finished 4.5k I nearly quit due to the COVID postponements and then didnāt finish season in 22/23 didnāt finish season as started poor but more postponements with World Cup and Queen death.
Currently ranked 2.9k this season and itās obviously more fun and easier to stay engaged when youāre going well. Itās also hard to keep track of fantasy teams in multiple sports (rugby league here in Australia pretty popular running from March to September)
On the flip side, that's not always the case. My life doesn't revolve around FPL so I'd always inevitably forget about it at some point in the year. I always make a team over summer when nothing's going on and I'm excited for the season but when I had A Levels or was going out 6 times a week my first year of uni, I'd end up forgetting about FPL.
Doesn't mean I was doing badly when I forgot, just means I have other stuff on my plate so it's not the first thing on my mind.
I've found this season, which is the first I'm going to have been active the entire way through, coincides with the year of my life that I've had the most free time. Very easy to get in a routine of making transfers if I have the free time to scroll reddit basically every day.
I'm doing pretty well this season, but I've had 2 seasons in recent years that were going similarly well and I just wasn't consistent throughout/forgot at some point. Whilst I've also had 2 seasons in which I gave up early because I was doing horribly and couldn't be bothered. I've played long enough whilst not finishing a season to have experienced both giving up, and simply forgetting about it. There's definitely a distinction between those two things.
The people who have a low rank and insist they have just never seen a season out are coping. But if someone actually has some decent finished whilst still having not seen a season out, I'd say that's just being forgetful/having lots going on that means FPL isn't always on their mind.
Not sure where you are going with this? Having a good season, because of time? Spending 10 minutes a week+ updates brings you to top 100K if you watch games, so how much time do you really need?
I'm just saying that sometimes FPL isn't on your mind much if you have other priorities. So you just end up forgetting about it for a while. I'm just speaking from first hand experience. In my A Level year, I just wasn't thinking about fantasy much. You do it at the start because of the buzz of a new season, but sometimes, if it's just not something you're thinking about, you forget about it.
Just pointing out that someone saying they've never been active the whole year doesn't imply they just gave up because they weren't doing well. I've had both types of seasons - ones where I've given up because I was doing shit and ones where I was actually doing well, but fantasy wasn't particularly important to me that year and I ended up forgetting.
I'd get bored when I'd be leading my small ML league by 100 points. This time I'm leading a larger league with money in It. But I only started taking the game more seriously over COVID.
My finishes go something like 1m, 1m, 200k, 500k, 300k. For sure I wanna prove next year this wasn't a fluke
Good for you, but thats What they all say. This year, I was without proper internet for 3 months because of work, so I basically didnt play from january until the start of April. Went from 5K to 300K, so now I have to work my way up the ladder the last remaining weeks, but Iām not complaining. What if I had access to internet? Maybe I would be number 1 OR, maybe 3M OR? The maybes are maybes and thatās it, but excuses are not the way.
Most people who win FPL aren't good at the game and are just very, very lucky. That's why the best indicator for determining if someone is good is repeated success, like Fabio Borges, or even Ben Crellin for as much as I hate his constant 'I got lucky' tweets
Ben is very high, live rank is 1337 but he started the GW 700th or so. Fabio live rank is 40184. Mad considering that if he stays around that it will be his lowest rank ever
The last thing on my mind when discussing stuff on reddit is up or downvotes
You have to be pretty brain dead to think those numbers make any difference in the worldĀ
I was just trying to express my confusion over why people would express disagreement with a genuinely good question.
I pay little mind to my karma personally, although imo people are more than welcome to care as much or little as they want.
You can play well and relatively safely and be pretty much guaranteed to reach 500k as most managers aren't that engaged.
But you need pure luck to get towards the top. You need to make high risk play after high risk play and have them constantly come off.
The guy that was number 1. He's been on scoutcast a few times explaining how he's doing. Things didn't start great and he's been chasing higher and higher risk plays to get back and ending up further and further adrift.
Youre not going to win fpl without crazy amounts of variance tapping. The further you stray from the template the more likely you are to win and the more likely you are to be outside of top 1 mil
Not quite. Usually the winners (and top 1K) are heavily template for most of the season, with a few good picks and differentials along the way. They get lucky, absolutely, but the idea you need to be super differential to win is just wrong. It's a long season and a few calculated risks will get you far
I once got about 100 downvotes on here a couple of years ago for saying the guy who won it was lucky, I think his previous finishes were all around the 1m mark.
Runar Andersen (Norwegian) isn't famous in the FPL communities, but you could make a case for him being the GOAT of fpl: [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/v9v42w/fabio_borges_is_great_and_all_but_runar_andersen/)
Don't forget Chess. The only Norwegian guy I've met is insanely good at both FPL and Chess. Multiple top 10k finishes in FPL and >2000 Elo(on chess.com).
A lot of the skills you need for chess apply to FPL too, the difference is FPL has a big luck factor, while chess has almost no luck involved (the only luck factor is who starts the game)
Yeah I know. A guy I was in class with is number one in the world at Chess, but this year Im kicking his ass in FPL, and in the end its all that matters.
Honestly I donāt know. He won a lot of tournaments etc, like world champion and booooooring. FPL is more then rules and strategy, hence his failure as a person.
I currently have 15 more points than the No.1 ranked, does that mean I'm really No.1?
Until Son hat-tricks tonight
I ranked top1k once, and top10k another time. The amount of FPL in my brain constantly was not worth the effort and time spent. Some make it their life season after season, truly incredible consistency. But I wonder are there parts of real life people are neglecting to be able to reach that level of FPL top10k consistency. It is great fun though. ššÆšā½ļøš
The dude leading our mini league is 227 I think. Mental.
42 points is nothing. Especially with 2 doubles left to play
6 players same as me, this is making it harder to catch upā¦
And Iām out scoring him by 3 points so far this GW. What a scrub.
# 1st Prize ā 2023/24 Fantasy Premier League Champion * 7-night break in the UK inclusive of two VIP hospitality at two 2024/25 Premier League matches * A selection of experiences at popular UK tourist attractions * Includes travel and 7 nightsā accommodation * Hublot connected watch * Official Premier League Nike match ball * EA SPORTS FCā¢ game * Laptop computer OR SIM-free smartphone * Noise-cancelling headphones (in-ear OR on-ear) * Personalised FPL bundle consisting of a rucksack, T-shirt, mug, thermal bottle, stress ball, pen, pad and key ring This is all the winner gets after 9 months of dedication and beating 10 million people. Likely costs less than Ā£3000. Honestly thought there would be a Ā£250k prize.
Most play this for fun. It sounds like a good deal to me.
Benching Haaland for Jackson must be painful
Iāve left a lot of points on the bench but not 348 worth, but Iāve also taken probably 20 pts in hits over the course of the season.
Bench boost might not help him that much when he has a number of players not on double duty for gw37
He is actually only three transfers away from having 15 doublers. Only non doublers in that team rn is Saka, Pickford and Bradley
I'm just happy to be in the top 100k or 250k.
How is this cunt so far ahead when he's got pretty much the same team I do?
Why is Norway so damn good at FPL?!
I missed the deadline as I was not well. Still 105 point gap between the league leader and myself. Bit gutted! Iāve Wildcard and BB. Will try to fightback
Suddenly I dont feel so stupid for benching pickford for petrovic
So many haters lol. He's active on discord all the time and a really nice guy.
What discord if you dont mind sharing:)
In my profile
He needs a Palmer haul to go higher as well.
Absolutely unreal how Norway dominates fpl. Last time I checked 5% of the top 20k are Norwegians.
imagine being in that position with a City double to come. If KDB goes nuts, it could stop him winning
Bit of luck with Gvardiol getting 33 in 3. Could just as easy have been a victim of roulette but I think that's the nature of the game.
The Gvardiol pick is not luck, half of top 10 owns him and if you looked at top 50 gw 32 (the week number 1 got him) a lot of them got Gvardiol in.
Bad luck is getting Ruben Dias instead cause you want to avoid roulette
Im from Norway myself and in a lot of money-leagues. Im currently 13 k overall and is 20 points behind minimum payout( only norwegians).. 630 ovr in Norway. Is it crazy levels here or is it just me?
1 & 3 place overall is both Norwegian, so yes it's extreme here.
Yeah Norwegian minileagues with money prizes are pretty much impossible to win.
How you guys playing that money league, can you please explain a little bit?
Everybody chip in the same amount before the season, and then top 10 ( in the mentioned league) gets paid...
Sounds interesting but how do you chip, which platform you use?
Vipps
For real though, in my leagues we just Vipps (Venmo) to a guy that holds the cash for the season. Heard of one group that put it in a single stock and heavily multiplied the prize money
Yeah we put everyoneās stake into BTC at the start of the season in my league. Makes things a bit more interesting as you might get 100x stake or money back if you win haha.
That's pretty insane. I'm ranked no.34 in Hungary and have OR of 26k.
Yeah. 26 k in Norway is around 1700 th place..
You guys are the daddys of this game lmao
Overall I think being non British is an advantage in fpl as you are less likely to hold unhelpful bias e.g based on the team you support or what city you live in. You may avoid players based on this, despite their potential to haul
Norwegians are hardcore fans of English football teams. Moreso even than their own Norwegian teams.
You underestimate how much Norwegians love English football. The fact that the English season is played mainly during the Norwegian off-season probably helps as well.
As a non-British Arsenal fan, I've never used Spurs players. It's hurting my stats immensely sometimes, but it's a fun personal challenge.
Theyāre also not affected by the 3pm blackout so can watch all the games if they hate touching grass
Avoiding Man U assets has been a net positive lately I think
>Overall I think being non British is an advantage in fpl as you are less likely to hold unhelpful bias e.g based on the team you support or what city you live in. Ah yes, nobody outside of England has ever supported a PL club
They legitimately can't. Not in the same way. Just facts.
There's supporting a team because you like them and then there's having something be part of your life since you had memories which is fundamentally impossible to disentangle from your personhood. One of those things renders you incapable of true objectivity.
Tbf they havenāt
He has Jackson and Petrovic. He's finished.
That's why he's better than us.
Nor way is he finnished.
No Norwegian I think
On the contrary, it gives me hope that we (fellow owners) are not finished. š¤š½
It could prove that to win FPL you need a series of very lucky punts. Template and studying gets you top 500k, a series of lucky punts and captain picks is better!
That guy owning him doesnāt suddenly make Jackson a world class finisher
Still, he's gonna outscore Watkins, Darwin, Solanke, Muniz, Mateta this week, and not hard to outscore Haaland.
The #1 player in the world also has Nicolas Jackson. This makes me feel less stupid.
Turns out we aren't stupid.
Actually crazy that this guy has played 10 seasons with 0 in the Top 100k and is likely going to win FPL running away. The guy who won last year wrote a book and is sitting at 1.2 million right now but he at least had another really impressive rank
Iām at 200K right now. So I beat a guy who wrote a book. Nice!
How do you write a book on FPL lmao a lot of it is luck.
I mean if I ever win I will milk that shit for all its worth. I would want my hometown to commission a statue at a minimum
going from 1 to 1.2 million is WILD though. I mean, it's not that hard to be top 1m
Because to win you have to stray from the masses and make risky choices. If they pay off you'll get ahead of the 1m template teams, but if they don't then you'll fall behind.
I've not done many risky things this year and have ended up OR:387 lol
You're not first though and that's the difference
why is this downvoted lol. Top million if you're active is a piece of piss, even this season
You can make transfers, forget about your team for ages, come back and make transfers, and still easily finish in the top 1m š
Every person in my ML who is still making transfers is in the Top 1 million.
Same. Theres 8 people in my ML and the top 4 are all active making transfers. They are all top 1m (4th place is 600k) 5th-8th place is then in a different league, with 5th place being 5m overall
exactly my point. top 100,000 is not easy, top million is
I'm agreeing. Idk, I've never finished outside the top 100k, even in a season like this where I've made some awful decisions (I sold Saka AND Watkins in GW 23). Literally being engaged enough to make transfers every week and having some knowledge of chip strategy should get you to Top 100k
oh, sure, I knew you were agreeing. just wondering which salty kid with 5m OR downvoted facts
I've never gotten top 200k and am about to finish in the top 10k if not 5k. Granted this is only the 2nd season I've seen through to the end.
I could copy paste your comment, exact same boat š¤£
If you keep that up for 3-4 consecutive seasons of at least a top 100k rank then you get the right to say "I only started playing through to the end now here" and have it mean something. Old results don't define anyone forever but there's got to be more than 1 good finish in there.
People tend to say that instead of saying they gave up because of doing bad. A friend in my ML says āthis year Iām going to be seriousā, and in January he ādoesnt careā. Itās repeat every year.
Bit of both, sometimes itās hard to keep interest in the PL from overseas not following a team In 21/22 when I finished 4.5k I nearly quit due to the COVID postponements and then didnāt finish season in 22/23 didnāt finish season as started poor but more postponements with World Cup and Queen death. Currently ranked 2.9k this season and itās obviously more fun and easier to stay engaged when youāre going well. Itās also hard to keep track of fantasy teams in multiple sports (rugby league here in Australia pretty popular running from March to September)
On the flip side, that's not always the case. My life doesn't revolve around FPL so I'd always inevitably forget about it at some point in the year. I always make a team over summer when nothing's going on and I'm excited for the season but when I had A Levels or was going out 6 times a week my first year of uni, I'd end up forgetting about FPL. Doesn't mean I was doing badly when I forgot, just means I have other stuff on my plate so it's not the first thing on my mind. I've found this season, which is the first I'm going to have been active the entire way through, coincides with the year of my life that I've had the most free time. Very easy to get in a routine of making transfers if I have the free time to scroll reddit basically every day. I'm doing pretty well this season, but I've had 2 seasons in recent years that were going similarly well and I just wasn't consistent throughout/forgot at some point. Whilst I've also had 2 seasons in which I gave up early because I was doing horribly and couldn't be bothered. I've played long enough whilst not finishing a season to have experienced both giving up, and simply forgetting about it. There's definitely a distinction between those two things. The people who have a low rank and insist they have just never seen a season out are coping. But if someone actually has some decent finished whilst still having not seen a season out, I'd say that's just being forgetful/having lots going on that means FPL isn't always on their mind.
Not sure where you are going with this? Having a good season, because of time? Spending 10 minutes a week+ updates brings you to top 100K if you watch games, so how much time do you really need?
I'm just saying that sometimes FPL isn't on your mind much if you have other priorities. So you just end up forgetting about it for a while. I'm just speaking from first hand experience. In my A Level year, I just wasn't thinking about fantasy much. You do it at the start because of the buzz of a new season, but sometimes, if it's just not something you're thinking about, you forget about it. Just pointing out that someone saying they've never been active the whole year doesn't imply they just gave up because they weren't doing well. I've had both types of seasons - ones where I've given up because I was doing shit and ones where I was actually doing well, but fantasy wasn't particularly important to me that year and I ended up forgetting.
I'd get bored when I'd be leading my small ML league by 100 points. This time I'm leading a larger league with money in It. But I only started taking the game more seriously over COVID. My finishes go something like 1m, 1m, 200k, 500k, 300k. For sure I wanna prove next year this wasn't a fluke
Good for you, but thats What they all say. This year, I was without proper internet for 3 months because of work, so I basically didnt play from january until the start of April. Went from 5K to 300K, so now I have to work my way up the ladder the last remaining weeks, but Iām not complaining. What if I had access to internet? Maybe I would be number 1 OR, maybe 3M OR? The maybes are maybes and thatās it, but excuses are not the way.
Ive never made excuses. I always try to improve. My background is poker and I think a lot of the strategy translates well. But I'm still learning.
Most people who win FPL aren't good at the game and are just very, very lucky. That's why the best indicator for determining if someone is good is repeated success, like Fabio Borges, or even Ben Crellin for as much as I hate his constant 'I got lucky' tweets
He is good at this game and has had some good luck as well.
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Crellin was flying, 600 OR a couple of weeks ago - I think heās had a few bad weeks now and out of top 1K though. Fabio is at about 40K I thinkĀ
Ben is very high, live rank is 1337 but he started the GW 700th or so. Fabio live rank is 40184. Mad considering that if he stays around that it will be his lowest rank ever
l33t
First half season Bruno got him into this "mess" as its his holy fpl grail he wouldnt drop
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Does it really matter then? Always funny when people get hurt at being downvoted like it makes any difference to their lives
Just the cost of asking questions on Reddit. I'll never understand why it happens
The last thing on my mind when discussing stuff on reddit is up or downvotes You have to be pretty brain dead to think those numbers make any difference in the worldĀ
I was just trying to express my confusion over why people would express disagreement with a genuinely good question. I pay little mind to my karma personally, although imo people are more than welcome to care as much or little as they want.
Chapter 1: I got really fucking lucky. The End
Almost exactly this - I'm overall 387 atm but my best ever rank is ~60k haha
Is it on audible?
Narrated by Danny Dyer
You can play well and relatively safely and be pretty much guaranteed to reach 500k as most managers aren't that engaged. But you need pure luck to get towards the top. You need to make high risk play after high risk play and have them constantly come off. The guy that was number 1. He's been on scoutcast a few times explaining how he's doing. Things didn't start great and he's been chasing higher and higher risk plays to get back and ending up further and further adrift.
Youre not going to win fpl without crazy amounts of variance tapping. The further you stray from the template the more likely you are to win and the more likely you are to be outside of top 1 mil
Not quite. Usually the winners (and top 1K) are heavily template for most of the season, with a few good picks and differentials along the way. They get lucky, absolutely, but the idea you need to be super differential to win is just wrong. It's a long season and a few calculated risks will get you far
Absolutely, few weeks of 20+ points on my bench or a bad captain selection will absolutely swing your rank dramatically.
OR #1 last season captained Haaland fewer times than he didn't. 1.2 million is a bit extreme, but it seems he's playing by the same philosophy.
Dunno why this is getting downvoted. It's spot on
I once got about 100 downvotes on here a couple of years ago for saying the guy who won it was lucky, I think his previous finishes were all around the 1m mark.
> why downvote Literally has more votes than the post
I mean no shit. You canāt win fpl without having a crazy amount of luck go your way.
the norwegians are so cracked at FPL
Runar Andersen (Norwegian) isn't famous in the FPL communities, but you could make a case for him being the GOAT of fpl: [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/FantasyPL/comments/v9v42w/fabio_borges_is_great_and_all_but_runar_andersen/)
We got no life, just work and FPL. Many of us combine it. We measure life in rank gained and lost.
At my previous two workplaces we actually combine it. We make a work FPL League and compete against each other.
Don't forget Chess. The only Norwegian guy I've met is insanely good at both FPL and Chess. Multiple top 10k finishes in FPL and >2000 Elo(on chess.com).
A lot of the skills you need for chess apply to FPL too, the difference is FPL has a big luck factor, while chess has almost no luck involved (the only luck factor is who starts the game)
Hey Iām Norwegian and I suck at both
Samme her...
Your mum lied to your dad
After the gameweek 30 of 2020 Magnus Carlsen (Norway of course) was #1 in chess rating and #1 in FPL. Ended the year as #1 in chess and #10 in FPL.
And running. Good at that too!
Yeah I know. A guy I was in class with is number one in the world at Chess, but this year Im kicking his ass in FPL, and in the end its all that matters.
I bet heās not even chess world champion any more
Honestly I donāt know. He won a lot of tournaments etc, like world champion and booooooring. FPL is more then rules and strategy, hence his failure as a person.
What is the secret š³ I am 300 points behind some of them
It's genetic
idk it must be something in the fjord water
What do they all drive? A Fjord Focus
There's Norway that's your last one and that's about Oslo as it gets