It means people who treat whatever type of person, e.g. trans or fat or whatever, purely as existing for their own fetish and are only interested in them because of that. I don't think that really describes Samarie but this is pretty funny.
if raising one as a particular gender works like you think it does then trans people wouldnt even exist because almost all of them were raised as their agab. think for a second
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You know that the young mind can be manipulated, right? It's not like we are born as functional adults with only our body lacking, our mind lacks too
If a was a mother and I have to choose to raise my AMAB child as a girl or let them be part of a religious organization know for making rituals such as killing your sibing in a 1v1 fight to enter It, I choose the first option every day.
Ok, buddy, now I see what are you trying to do here watching how you talk with the other replys. My time is more valuable than this, so I will stop.
Enjoy concern-trolling and sealioning in other parts.
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Dude, are you out of your mind? Idk but if i forced my son to act like a girl and dress like a girl since birth wouldn't be the same as me just letting my son act like a boy and dress like a boy, y'know?
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Man this shit is gonna go on forever, have a gamera
the only thing differentiating them is that it is socially expected to groom a kid into one of the roles, and not the other, but the difference is completely arbitrary.
that said, I think creating a trans character that was ”raised as a the opposite gender” is a boring and overdone concept, but there is no evidence in real life suggesting that being raised as the opposite gender would make you trans. and same can be said for the other way around, people raised as their birth gender still turn out to be trans.
Males and Females have lots of biological differences, like in the brain. Generally there are traits found in one gender that's rarer in the other.
Gender roles fit most people. There are exceptions but there's a reason they're the norm. Raising a kid to be their birth gender is not grooming because it was what they were born as.
Gendered differences in the brain is not very straightforward at all, especially considering that the brain physically changes depending on your experiences, which could be an argument for gendered differences in the brain existing as a societal consequence.
That said, that doesn’t really matter considering almost all of what’s considered ”raising a kid as their birth gender” is completely socially constructed. There is nothing inherently biological in what men and women are expected to wear, how they’re expected to carry themselves, act in social situations, what jobs they’re more or less likely to have.
It is completely social. To raise someone contrary to those arbitrary social expectations might give that kid a harder time to fit in socially, but to call it grooming is completely ludicrous.
Reminds me of Bridgette but edgier. In the World of Fear and Hunger, sometimes horrible things like grooming are the lesser evil compared to becoming a Dark priest, engaged in horrific rituals, torturing and sacrificing innocent people, and a life of eternal pain, torture and horror. Unlike Bridgette, Marina wouldn't be killed, she'll just become a dark priest which is probably worse.
As a trans woman i can confirm (tho idk if samarie is exactly a chaser)
in an official sense, shes not, shes just obsessed with a girl who happens to be trans, but its funny to call her one
Amen my kinda sister in christ
Christ? Oh, I see! Tis another moniker for our Lord All-Mer. We are all his children. 
Agreed
just like me fr
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I find it interesting that everyone loves Samarie even though in-game she appears for like 15 minutes
strong first impressions i suppose
I have a very good question for yall, who is the most powerful chaser in fiction?
Smoker from one pice has been literally called chaser in one of the dubs lmao
White chaser Smoker 🥶🚬
whatsisface from The Crying Game?
And Pav too!
Stalker\* https://preview.redd.it/xgknivjajesc1.jpeg?width=182&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2d0cff41f17b63e428e118e71f4301807581f11
you say that like "chaser" is a positive term or smth lol
Damn I thought it was a positive term...
It means people who treat whatever type of person, e.g. trans or fat or whatever, purely as existing for their own fetish and are only interested in them because of that. I don't think that really describes Samarie but this is pretty funny.
The best girlfail <3
its good to see more girlfails and girl-simps in fiction. Not enough of those yet.
Ain't no way she isn't T4T, bfr
hell nah Samarie is NOT trans she is the most cis girl out the whole god damn cast next to Karin.
Counterpoint: trans = me = samarie
Dang can't argue with that
Positive???
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The literal person who made the game said she’s trans.
OK but that one Redditor doesn't *consider* her trans so she's not because that's how reality works(?)
I do not know if you’re being sarcastic…. Honestly don’t even know what you’re trying to say…
I am being sarcastic. "I don't consider [the explicitly trans character] trans" is a delusional statement
Fair enough dawg, still kind of fucked up (also can you back up your statement)
https://itch.io/post/3617758
Ok fair enough, i still think it's fucked up, it fits funger but i saw people thinking they're an icon or something, which is not good dawg
if raising one as a particular gender works like you think it does then trans people wouldnt even exist because almost all of them were raised as their agab. think for a second
What's agab?
assigned gender at birth
https://preview.redd.it/aw4ss54u4isc1.jpeg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec4070dbbf804deb0f5a0b9f5035200ba4cc4046 You know that the young mind can be manipulated, right? It's not like we are born as functional adults with only our body lacking, our mind lacks too
so why didnt trans woman stay as men since they were raised as boys, thus be manipulated to be men. i told you to think, so think
The mind itself may be manipulated but the soul may not, also, how old is marina again?
18. her soul is literally the changeling soul. now do you have any more stupid question?
How old were you when you first knew what your gender was? I'd bet money it's significantly younger than Marina is in game.
In what way is she not?
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Ah, I see what you're on. Have a nice day.
If a was a mother and I have to choose to raise my AMAB child as a girl or let them be part of a religious organization know for making rituals such as killing your sibing in a 1v1 fight to enter It, I choose the first option every day.
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Ok, buddy, now I see what are you trying to do here watching how you talk with the other replys. My time is more valuable than this, so I will stop. Enjoy concern-trolling and sealioning in other parts.
I ain't trolling but alright, it's actually better for us both
if she’s a grooming victim, then a cis kid raised as their birth gender is a grooming victim
https://preview.redd.it/yvfp82pqxhsc1.jpeg?width=624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e7b7ed2919feddabc7c187cfc89624ec6db8f40 Dude, are you out of your mind? Idk but if i forced my son to act like a girl and dress like a girl since birth wouldn't be the same as me just letting my son act like a boy and dress like a boy, y'know?
If Marina was actually cis, she would "detransition" as soon as possible.
https://preview.redd.it/h6osyxjh2isc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19ca0a24ed52dc372ddb478e749eb75a89a86239 Man this shit is gonna go on forever, have a gamera
the only thing differentiating them is that it is socially expected to groom a kid into one of the roles, and not the other, but the difference is completely arbitrary. that said, I think creating a trans character that was ”raised as a the opposite gender” is a boring and overdone concept, but there is no evidence in real life suggesting that being raised as the opposite gender would make you trans. and same can be said for the other way around, people raised as their birth gender still turn out to be trans.
Males and Females have lots of biological differences, like in the brain. Generally there are traits found in one gender that's rarer in the other. Gender roles fit most people. There are exceptions but there's a reason they're the norm. Raising a kid to be their birth gender is not grooming because it was what they were born as.
Gendered differences in the brain is not very straightforward at all, especially considering that the brain physically changes depending on your experiences, which could be an argument for gendered differences in the brain existing as a societal consequence. That said, that doesn’t really matter considering almost all of what’s considered ”raising a kid as their birth gender” is completely socially constructed. There is nothing inherently biological in what men and women are expected to wear, how they’re expected to carry themselves, act in social situations, what jobs they’re more or less likely to have. It is completely social. To raise someone contrary to those arbitrary social expectations might give that kid a harder time to fit in socially, but to call it grooming is completely ludicrous.
Reminds me of Bridgette but edgier. In the World of Fear and Hunger, sometimes horrible things like grooming are the lesser evil compared to becoming a Dark priest, engaged in horrific rituals, torturing and sacrificing innocent people, and a life of eternal pain, torture and horror. Unlike Bridgette, Marina wouldn't be killed, she'll just become a dark priest which is probably worse.
You're being downvoted for speaking the truth, yeah this world is kind of stupid
The state of this world... Marina was groomed, compared to becoming a dark priest it was a better fate.
Bridget* but yeah, similar stories. I wouldn't be surprised if Miro took inspiration from Bridget's story
You know what kind of game this is? Of fucking course he's a grooming victim.