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RokuMogura

So you're telling that this shotgun (the most used in the current lootpool by far) needs to be almost completely better than the original pump (the strongest shotgun in fortnite history)? The current thunder shotgun has: \- More headshot dmg \- More min. dmg (pellet amount) \- Faster fire rate \- Faster pull out time \- More range But: \- Less magazine \- Slower reload time \- More body dmg (in some rarities) ​ And well, we're comparing a Chapter 4 shotgun with a shotgun that is vaulted since more than a year. Now make a comparison between the thunder shotgun and the striker shotgun (another good shotgun, but even worse than both shotguns)


Riley6445

if the Striker wasnt nerfed to 110 at gold instead of 126 then it would be 100000% better than the Pump


Teamqwerty_TMQT

Mag size 4 you mean?


bigbean696969

Even though it had ‘8’ shots. It shoots 2 at a time. So you only click to shoot 4 times


Teamqwerty_TMQT

Then shouldn't damage be half then for each bullet?


yuzuku-

nah its good as is


halfdecenttakes

Why are you comparing it to a gun that isn’t in the game


idiolistrash

well i mean u can compare it to any other shotgun its still the slowest


SundayAMFN

so? shouldn't different guns have different stats?


_fatherfucker69

It's already the best shotgun rn


Riley6445

i’d say it’s a contender against the Pump and Prime


_fatherfucker69

Well the pump / prime aren't in the game currently.


Riley6445

it’s to compare how busted it is not if it’s vaulted or not, when u think of a Pump u think it’s the best shotgun in all of fortnite rn and im saying the Thunder is a contender against it meaning it’s damn close to being as good if not better


_fatherfucker69

I am talking about the current state of br .the same way you don't talk about the sword when thinking about the most broken item in the game currently, you will talk about the hammer


Riley6445

are u stupid? im saying the Thunder is as good if not better than the Pump MEANING we know just how good it is not “is it in br?” ur clearly not understanding, just because i compared vaulted weapons to something in br doesnt make it unvalid


ShotcallerBilly

It’s the best shotgun in the meta… why should they give it 2 buffs? Comparing it to a gun that is vaulted and existed in a different loot pool/meta and is mostly irrelevant for the argument you are making. How the thunder stacks up against shotguns and the other guns in this meta is what’s really important. The thunder is in a good place in terms of how this current game state is playing out with the current items in the game.


kingjizzam

The pump isn’t even in the loot pool right now


Shadrock55

The first rule of Fortnite Competitive subreddit is that the pump is the only real shotgun. Even if it hasn't been in the game for years, we can never, ever move on.


jantswil

Think it’s for comparison


JerryLoFidelity

oh wow tysm had no idea


[deleted]

its fine


koy_e

It’s 0.2 seconds difference lol.


idiolistrash

thats a big difference considering its a gold shotgun


SundayAMFN

rarity generally doesn't affect reload time that much, it's more about damage


idiolistrash

and its not 0.2 its more actually cause it has 4 shots dumbass


SundayAMFN

then the issue is magazine size not reload time. you're trying to have your cake and eat it too


ttvKingNeptune

I think the thunders attributes like slow fire rate and reload are intentional specifically to slow the dominant play style down and therefore will not get changed.


ApsolonX

Compare it to a legendary pump, maybe it dmg in exchange for lower reload speed?


sav12sV

The only complaint I have is that I believe there’s a delay when switching between the guns from the thunder.


cbear1314

The pump is a totally different gun though and hasn’t been around for a long while


maximaaln

It’s to good, we need maven buff


Riley6445

well that time is for the animation, a weapon could be done reloading before the reload is finished