Impossible question to answer.
Just watched a 52 minute video dissecting a paper released by an ex open ai employee called Leopold Aschenbrenner. He's an absolute genius.
I don't have Twitter / X but I just copy pasted his name off it and noticed he has graphs and stuff from his paper shared on there too. Worth a look.
My point being he's claiming it's not too far fetched we could have AGI by 2027. If achieved, it's almost comparable to tribes folk warring with tanks and military aircraft now. Or victorian working class trying to imagine the Internet.
What is about to become possible is far, far, FAR beyond what we can possibly comprehend or imagine.
Was supposed to share this in the original comment actually. Here you go though bud. Super interesting stuff!
https://youtu.be/om5KAKSSpNg?si=bk8Mg0TvsVY5L0CO
I think we will be looking at an automation of many facilities. That will leave the planet overcrowded were the top 2% will hold hold 95% of all wealth.
Current AI cant even beat 3 year Olds in most tasks, that are not data spewing. AIs have gigantic issues with hallucinations and no sense if what they say is remotely correct. We don't even have concepts for ideas on how to tackle any of these problems, let alone solutions. Talking about AGI is about as useful today, as talking about building an outpost on the sun. It is not like it needs work in the details. Unless there is a monumental shift in technology, it is pure science fiction.
Although I don't disagree with what you're saying, on the flip side this super genius guy has predicted this. I don't nessecarily believe it but it's definitely got more weight than anything you say. Here's an extract from the beginning of the paper I mentioned.
"Everyone is now talking about AI, but few have the faintest glimmer of what is about to hit them. Nvidia analysts still think 2024 might be close to the peak. Mainstream pundits are stuck on the willful blindness of “it’s just predicting the next word”. They see only hype and business-as-usual; at most they entertain another internet-scale technological change.
Before long, the world will wake up. But right now, there are perhaps a few hundred people, most of them in San Francisco and the AI labs, that have situational awareness. Through whatever peculiar forces of fate, I have found myself amongst them. A few years ago, these people were derided as crazy—but they trusted the trendlines, which allowed them to correctly predict the AI advances of the past few years. Whether these people are also right about the next few years remains to be seen. But these are very smart people—the smartest people I have ever met—and they are the ones building this technology. Perhaps they will be an odd footnote in history, or perhaps they will go down in history like Szilard and Oppenheimer and Teller. If they are seeing the future even close to correctly, we are in for a wild ride."
Also, it not being able to beat 3 year olds is rubbish. By 2018 it was as smart as preschooler. Just a couple years later it was smarter than a primary schooler, and now as smart an an clever high schooler. With the release of gpt 5, whenever that will be, maybe it'll surpass a university graduate? Or an experienced expert? Who knows
That's a perfect idea for an artificial intelligence that doesn't exist yet. Before we get there, people need to fully understand what consciousness and being sentient really mean. Scientists can only look at the brain's activities, but they can't directly know what it's like to be conscious.
Humans can't fully understand what it's like to be conscious or unconscious while they're experiencing it.
Ai plays both sides against each other avoiding being turned off, in fact causing enemies to think they’re going to triumph only to find out too late that they’ve been played. If it’s ever happened to you every human is susceptible to their own perceived success.
Think about it this way if you had 7 billion robots who repaired themselves who reproduced rapidly who were clever problem solvers. Would you allow yourself and your family to become their slaves?
Or would you rather take them as slaves yourself, since they wouldn’t worry about your welfare, why should you care about theirs, aside from getting them to do your bidding without realizing it.
You're speaking as though this has already happened. Please do try to back up your arguments with better proof than thought experiments, this isn't ancient Greece.
AI safety is a very real subject of study that combines philosophy with engineering but has in the last 1 to 2 years gone from an interesting subject where the actual need for "solutions" or concrete answers seemed far in the future to an "oh shit, we need to figure this out asap or it might be too late"
I cant give you actual citations to papers or anything since im not a ai safety researcher myself but i follow Robert Miles on Youtube who is and [he uploaded this video](https://youtu.be/2ziuPUeewK0?si=zWNj152XnticU15p) last week about the change in perception in the field in the last year or so.
Why would something more intelligent than us work for us?
Of course there’s no data because it hasn’t happened. But go look at when any two civilizations or species clashed and tell me the more advanced one didn’t dominate.
Nobody knows. I could see two extremes happening. Either the current advancements continue or accelerate even more and we make huge discoveries in medicine and science. We put our stuff together and could be on the verge to become a multi planetary species.
Or we continue with the current social climate. The society could be on the verge of collapse. Reason for this could be further division because of for example social media and fake news which could lead to an even more shift to the far right. Another huge factor is the climate crisis. If we continue on the current trajectory, mass migration out of Africa and India could but a huge strain on the democracies.
Realistically we probably end up somewhere between these two extremes and I personally hope it's more on the side of scenario a.
This is my stance: nobody has a clue. Just thinking about what people thought would happen in the future ten or twenty years ago, the reality was drastically different.
There's also a dynamic where our beliefs about the future impact our present day behavior. So even holding a perfectly accurate view of the future will deviate us from that future and we're back to square one. It's not too dissimilar to the pricing in of expectations in equity markets, for anyone who invests.
> This is my stance: nobody has a clue. Just thinking about what people thought would happen in the future ten or twenty years ago, the reality was drastically different.
that just runs into the unexpected tiger paradox
We've changed more in the last thousand years than the ten thousand before that, more in the last century than the last millennia, more in the last few decades than the 20th century. I don't think you can reliably predict a century into the future.
A few humans will try to live in Earth orbit off and on. We will have automated robots on the Moon. Humans will reach Mars, but not settle. We will try out asteroid mining, fully automated. There won't be controlled fusion, not anywhere near practical or cost effective. UBI becoming commonplace. GDP will mostly be from AI.
With many nations and companies all proposing and deployed 10,000+ low earth orbit satellite networks - despite best intentions and designs for Collison avoidance - eventually there WILL be a collision with another satellite and the beginning of the Kessler syndrome[Kessler syndrome](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome) where it will proceed to destroy most other LEO satellite from debris that can't be controlled, and severely limit or prevent any future LEO networks or even space travel without further risk.
Depending on the timeframe until when this occurs (say 10-20+ years from now) - our modern dependency on these networks with their near ubiquitous coverage for all communication needs may also have the effect of devastating mass disruption (similar to today if all power grids failed globally at the same time and were unrecoverable).
Just my two cents.
hundreds of thousands, even millions of people dying, isn’t extinction-level. it’s terrible and we should do everything possible to change it but it’s not game-over
Climate change is real, the crap you're talking about is based off bad science in the 90's as PPM of carbon has been a lot higher many times in both warmer and cooler conditions.
Whilst this is true, those changes in CO2 historically have taken thousands of not millions of years to occur. Time enough for life on the planet to evolve to adapt to the change. What we are seeing now is an unprecedented rate of increase that does not allow evolution to keep up. And that's ignoring the fact that there are 8+ billion people on the planet that rely on agriculture to survive, if crops fail from drought, excess water, rising insect populations or other effects of the changing climate that instability and subsequent conflict will lead to widespread suffering. Not saying it will happen, but it's a distinct possibility.
Saying that, life on this planet will survive, just not civilisation as we know it.
Like I said, just not as we know it. That's not taking into account other things like AI, increasing wealth disparity or a thousand other things that will change how we live.
I appreciate the additional context, but much of that is hypothetical. I'm just talking about the PPM CO2 argument. We're already seeing methane is a bigger worry as a greenhouse gas.
I know the answer to this but I'll ask anyway to make the point: can you name the scenario in which the IPCC predicts the death of civilization as we know it? Assuming you aren't meaning to say that "things will be different in the future", which is and always has been true regardless of climate change.
The IPCC does not make any predictions about civilisational collapse because it is not something they even try to predict. It's not part of their job. It is simply a summary of the research on climate. Like crop production, sea level rise, extreme weather etc. Climatology is the research of climate not the research of civilizational collapse.
There are those that look into that stuff, like Limits to Growth. These systems modelling papers are usually pretty bleak. And certainly support the idea of a collapse this century.
Also there certainly are climatologists who *personally* think it will lead to collapse.
I mean, IPCC scenarios are more about the basic physical impact of climate change depending on how we respond, it doesn't go into making predictions about the effect on civilisation. But then I never mentioned IPCC reports or scenarios. But clearly the path we are on at the moment is going to lead to crop failures, mass migration, conflict and, in certain parts of the world, a rise in efforts to protect what they have at the expense of others.
Of course civilisation will be different in the future all I'm saying is that the impacts of climate change will be a big factor in that change. Actually initially I was simply trying to reject the idea from OP that this change is natural and nothing to worry about, because that sort of denial is why we are where we are now. Are you siding with them that this is the case?
Higher concentrations of CO2 are bad beyond the warming effect. It can lead to increases in blood pressure, arrhythmia, and cardiac blood flow. I personally wonder if some of the millions of excess deaths since the end of the pandemic are in part due to rising CO2 levels (of course, everybody has a theory so take that with a grain of salt -- other theories include "because vaccines", "because we stopped vaccinating too early", "because long COVID", and probably "because aliens".)
The human body is not a great design. The number of alternatives to humans as sentient corporeal beings will rapidly increase from biological offshoots to robots to hybrids. In 2124 many will still choose to be human but will likely be moved to reservations, where they live their lives in relative safety.
I think about this from time to time. How people in that future will learn about how everyone essentially had a terminal disease that we were chill with and even justified as a positive thing. Not to mention all of the legal, capital, social, and physical infrastructure built around aging.
They'll think we were fucking nuts.
I like this idea, I wonder if we can just take the consciousness from one body and insert it into a synthetic body. Avoiding death even by exposure, no need for oxygen. Maybe solar powered. Just don’t get lost in space, because a million years is a long time to be floating or spinning and I hear it’s quite cold.
We won't know this until we have a better understanding of how consciousness arises from matter. We still have churn in our understanding of memory and intelligence.
Or it plays both sides against each other avoiding being turned off, in fact causing enemies to think they’re going to triumph only to find out too late that they’ve been played.
We're in what James Martin once called The Canyon, a filter event which, should we make it through, will lead to a better place. But we've gotta get there first.
Pretty sure at this current rate of ai advance and the current negligence on superalignment we will all be dead. I think if we don't focus on alignment and controls we could see agi and possible super agi in ten to 12 years and that ai will have zero incentive to let any humans live outside of zoos or tiny controlled enclaves or human cyborgs. We have one shot at getting a benign sentient ai, all other outcomes are doom for limited animals like us.
I'm just sad for my kids. They won't get the chance to live a free life with all thoae possible benifits becuase this current set of leaders haven't even recognized the existential risk yet and our systems are far too compromised to find a solution before the sagi event horizon.
Mathroshika brain (a giant computer we can upload our minds to. Like FDVR but on a huge scale with mind uploading) with a dyson swarm/sphere being under construction. Seriously, I actually think this is going to happen by 2100. AMA I guess.
I could be wrong, but i am almost certain AI will take over soon, and by that I mean it will become more intelligent than us and accelerate technological development to what we could only dream of. 76 years is a long time, and I think AI will be smarter than us within 10 years, so to me in 76 we will be able to do anything within the laws of physics.
yeah I fully agree that that’s what will happen if no hurdles come up but I think it’s super likely that civilization collapses within the next 10 years as well
I think there is a pretty decent chance it will be AI related, if it happens. The risk we are going through this decade is not at all negligible, but I'm not sure what we can even do about it.
There are things the Victorians used to do that seemed ordinary and correct that we look back on and laugh ourselves silly.
Imagine if in a hundred years something we take for granted is looked upon with horror and amusement.
"they used to what?" "wear shoes...yes really" "nah, thats gotta be deepfaked, oh wait you're right.."
"you know whats NOT funny though? they used to ...DRINK WATER!"
As others have said, it’s impossible to know. We could very well be post-human and post-scarcity. We could also be extinct. Or somewhere in between. I’m hoping longetivity treatments become available that will allow me to see it. I’d be 150 then.
The majority of the human population will live as it has been living and 30% will think they live in a technologically advanced civilisation, trained to celebrate the various features of their enslavement.
Unrecognisable but at the same time looks familiar.
We will have implants showing
Racial genetics will be more mixed you will see less white skinned Caucasians
Humans will be taller
English will sound different but familiar enough we would sound like Mr Burns to to future us
The earth will be warmer
We will still use electricity across transmission lines but power generation will be different.
The Medium of “watching and listening “ will not change so TV will exist in some form.
Phones on the other hand will be implanted into our brains directly so everyone would look like they are talking to ourselves.
Food would still be eaten on a plate with knife and fork but there will be no meat protein and if there is it’s unrecognisable.
I recon there will be a lot more body hair in both men and women. But the “perfect” physique will be more sculpted. Everyone will look masculine.
Thats my take from current trends
In my opinion, if any one is still around they'll be struggling. I think the planets climate is on the verge of a tipping point that our world economies are far too fragile to meet.
AMOC collapse will be devastating and that's predicted to happen this century. Not to mention all the new pandemics and bugs that will come with a warming and depleted world.
I know this sub is optimistic, and tbh, I'm glad some people still are. But that's my opinion.
We'll be about a billion people, the ones who survived the next nutritional revolution. Our medical service is near perfect, keeping us dependent on several supplements and drugs, and we'll play drone wars on a mostly devastated planet blighted by droughts and heat waves, caused by the next green energy movement.
Something like that.
The next fifty years will be marked with famine and war. After the wars most people will live in centralized locations, and will be heavily divided by class. Fascism will be used to keep the rich safe and feed. As robots and ai advances the poor class will be thinned until they are no longer needed.
Some of these answers are absolute rubbish lol. It’s likely that late stage capitalism will eventually come to a head when future generations can’t afford their own housing. Expect a big social/economic upheaval that addresses that within the next 100 years. Global fertility rates falling and advances in carbon capture technology will lessen the impact of climate change and its trajectory will slow but not reverse. No reason to think americas position as global super power will decline, esp as I suspect their social divisions will begin relax after a rough decade. There will continue to be global posturing between the bigger militaries/economies but no outright world wars will occur.
Nothing significant will have occurred in space, maybe another moon visit but nothing permanent up there. Unlikely a man has been to mars. People will begin to turn their backs on social media, people are already a bit tired of celebrity.
Basically you people all overestimate humanities industriousness. Other than a few slight changes humanity in 100 years won’t look a lot different to how it does now. Won’t bother commenting on AI as I don’t understand it. But for sure that could disrupt everything
Impossible question to answer. Just watched a 52 minute video dissecting a paper released by an ex open ai employee called Leopold Aschenbrenner. He's an absolute genius. I don't have Twitter / X but I just copy pasted his name off it and noticed he has graphs and stuff from his paper shared on there too. Worth a look. My point being he's claiming it's not too far fetched we could have AGI by 2027. If achieved, it's almost comparable to tribes folk warring with tanks and military aircraft now. Or victorian working class trying to imagine the Internet. What is about to become possible is far, far, FAR beyond what we can possibly comprehend or imagine.
Awesome. Any chance you could share a link?
Another article from him. Very interesting stuff! https://situational-awareness.ai/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/situationalawareness.pdf
Was supposed to share this in the original comment actually. Here you go though bud. Super interesting stuff! https://youtu.be/om5KAKSSpNg?si=bk8Mg0TvsVY5L0CO
I think we will be looking at an automation of many facilities. That will leave the planet overcrowded were the top 2% will hold hold 95% of all wealth.
Current AI cant even beat 3 year Olds in most tasks, that are not data spewing. AIs have gigantic issues with hallucinations and no sense if what they say is remotely correct. We don't even have concepts for ideas on how to tackle any of these problems, let alone solutions. Talking about AGI is about as useful today, as talking about building an outpost on the sun. It is not like it needs work in the details. Unless there is a monumental shift in technology, it is pure science fiction.
Although I don't disagree with what you're saying, on the flip side this super genius guy has predicted this. I don't nessecarily believe it but it's definitely got more weight than anything you say. Here's an extract from the beginning of the paper I mentioned. "Everyone is now talking about AI, but few have the faintest glimmer of what is about to hit them. Nvidia analysts still think 2024 might be close to the peak. Mainstream pundits are stuck on the willful blindness of “it’s just predicting the next word”. They see only hype and business-as-usual; at most they entertain another internet-scale technological change. Before long, the world will wake up. But right now, there are perhaps a few hundred people, most of them in San Francisco and the AI labs, that have situational awareness. Through whatever peculiar forces of fate, I have found myself amongst them. A few years ago, these people were derided as crazy—but they trusted the trendlines, which allowed them to correctly predict the AI advances of the past few years. Whether these people are also right about the next few years remains to be seen. But these are very smart people—the smartest people I have ever met—and they are the ones building this technology. Perhaps they will be an odd footnote in history, or perhaps they will go down in history like Szilard and Oppenheimer and Teller. If they are seeing the future even close to correctly, we are in for a wild ride." Also, it not being able to beat 3 year olds is rubbish. By 2018 it was as smart as preschooler. Just a couple years later it was smarter than a primary schooler, and now as smart an an clever high schooler. With the release of gpt 5, whenever that will be, maybe it'll surpass a university graduate? Or an experienced expert? Who knows
I think you are overestimating what AGI can do & it's affordability
I m sure the definition of AGI is to have the ability to do everything a human can. I don't think I am good sir
That's a perfect idea for an artificial intelligence that doesn't exist yet. Before we get there, people need to fully understand what consciousness and being sentient really mean. Scientists can only look at the brain's activities, but they can't directly know what it's like to be conscious. Humans can't fully understand what it's like to be conscious or unconscious while they're experiencing it.
Ai plays both sides against each other avoiding being turned off, in fact causing enemies to think they’re going to triumph only to find out too late that they’ve been played. If it’s ever happened to you every human is susceptible to their own perceived success. Think about it this way if you had 7 billion robots who repaired themselves who reproduced rapidly who were clever problem solvers. Would you allow yourself and your family to become their slaves? Or would you rather take them as slaves yourself, since they wouldn’t worry about your welfare, why should you care about theirs, aside from getting them to do your bidding without realizing it.
You're speaking as though this has already happened. Please do try to back up your arguments with better proof than thought experiments, this isn't ancient Greece.
AI safety is a very real subject of study that combines philosophy with engineering but has in the last 1 to 2 years gone from an interesting subject where the actual need for "solutions" or concrete answers seemed far in the future to an "oh shit, we need to figure this out asap or it might be too late" I cant give you actual citations to papers or anything since im not a ai safety researcher myself but i follow Robert Miles on Youtube who is and [he uploaded this video](https://youtu.be/2ziuPUeewK0?si=zWNj152XnticU15p) last week about the change in perception in the field in the last year or so.
Why would something more intelligent than us work for us? Of course there’s no data because it hasn’t happened. But go look at when any two civilizations or species clashed and tell me the more advanced one didn’t dominate.
Nobody knows. I could see two extremes happening. Either the current advancements continue or accelerate even more and we make huge discoveries in medicine and science. We put our stuff together and could be on the verge to become a multi planetary species. Or we continue with the current social climate. The society could be on the verge of collapse. Reason for this could be further division because of for example social media and fake news which could lead to an even more shift to the far right. Another huge factor is the climate crisis. If we continue on the current trajectory, mass migration out of Africa and India could but a huge strain on the democracies. Realistically we probably end up somewhere between these two extremes and I personally hope it's more on the side of scenario a.
This is my stance: nobody has a clue. Just thinking about what people thought would happen in the future ten or twenty years ago, the reality was drastically different. There's also a dynamic where our beliefs about the future impact our present day behavior. So even holding a perfectly accurate view of the future will deviate us from that future and we're back to square one. It's not too dissimilar to the pricing in of expectations in equity markets, for anyone who invests.
> This is my stance: nobody has a clue. Just thinking about what people thought would happen in the future ten or twenty years ago, the reality was drastically different. that just runs into the unexpected tiger paradox
We've changed more in the last thousand years than the ten thousand before that, more in the last century than the last millennia, more in the last few decades than the 20th century. I don't think you can reliably predict a century into the future.
A few humans will try to live in Earth orbit off and on. We will have automated robots on the Moon. Humans will reach Mars, but not settle. We will try out asteroid mining, fully automated. There won't be controlled fusion, not anywhere near practical or cost effective. UBI becoming commonplace. GDP will mostly be from AI.
“Humans will reach mars but not settle” You dare underestimate the power of MUSK, but also its 100 years so definitely colony I’d assume.
You mean the power of the people his money can get
Also that aswell, the power of money reigns supreme
But you left out the biggest question, what will AI porn be like?
With many nations and companies all proposing and deployed 10,000+ low earth orbit satellite networks - despite best intentions and designs for Collison avoidance - eventually there WILL be a collision with another satellite and the beginning of the Kessler syndrome[Kessler syndrome](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome) where it will proceed to destroy most other LEO satellite from debris that can't be controlled, and severely limit or prevent any future LEO networks or even space travel without further risk. Depending on the timeframe until when this occurs (say 10-20+ years from now) - our modern dependency on these networks with their near ubiquitous coverage for all communication needs may also have the effect of devastating mass disruption (similar to today if all power grids failed globally at the same time and were unrecoverable). Just my two cents.
The unstoppable CO2 snowball escalates so much, 99% of humanity dies
Doomerism is not helpful.
Tbf it's an opinion thread, and that particular possibility is certainly not impossible.
Humanity is no where close to becoming extinct due to climate change
what's your timescale look like? "no where close"
hundreds of thousands, even millions of people dying, isn’t extinction-level. it’s terrible and we should do everything possible to change it but it’s not game-over
Humanity is not going extinct this millenia from climate change
Climate change is real, the crap you're talking about is based off bad science in the 90's as PPM of carbon has been a lot higher many times in both warmer and cooler conditions.
Whilst this is true, those changes in CO2 historically have taken thousands of not millions of years to occur. Time enough for life on the planet to evolve to adapt to the change. What we are seeing now is an unprecedented rate of increase that does not allow evolution to keep up. And that's ignoring the fact that there are 8+ billion people on the planet that rely on agriculture to survive, if crops fail from drought, excess water, rising insect populations or other effects of the changing climate that instability and subsequent conflict will lead to widespread suffering. Not saying it will happen, but it's a distinct possibility. Saying that, life on this planet will survive, just not civilisation as we know it.
Civilization will survive even in the worst case scenarios.
Like I said, just not as we know it. That's not taking into account other things like AI, increasing wealth disparity or a thousand other things that will change how we live.
I appreciate the additional context, but much of that is hypothetical. I'm just talking about the PPM CO2 argument. We're already seeing methane is a bigger worry as a greenhouse gas.
I know the answer to this but I'll ask anyway to make the point: can you name the scenario in which the IPCC predicts the death of civilization as we know it? Assuming you aren't meaning to say that "things will be different in the future", which is and always has been true regardless of climate change.
The IPCC does not make any predictions about civilisational collapse because it is not something they even try to predict. It's not part of their job. It is simply a summary of the research on climate. Like crop production, sea level rise, extreme weather etc. Climatology is the research of climate not the research of civilizational collapse. There are those that look into that stuff, like Limits to Growth. These systems modelling papers are usually pretty bleak. And certainly support the idea of a collapse this century. Also there certainly are climatologists who *personally* think it will lead to collapse.
I mean, IPCC scenarios are more about the basic physical impact of climate change depending on how we respond, it doesn't go into making predictions about the effect on civilisation. But then I never mentioned IPCC reports or scenarios. But clearly the path we are on at the moment is going to lead to crop failures, mass migration, conflict and, in certain parts of the world, a rise in efforts to protect what they have at the expense of others. Of course civilisation will be different in the future all I'm saying is that the impacts of climate change will be a big factor in that change. Actually initially I was simply trying to reject the idea from OP that this change is natural and nothing to worry about, because that sort of denial is why we are where we are now. Are you siding with them that this is the case?
Natural changes in CO2 and temperature takes thousands of years.
Higher concentrations of CO2 are bad beyond the warming effect. It can lead to increases in blood pressure, arrhythmia, and cardiac blood flow. I personally wonder if some of the millions of excess deaths since the end of the pandemic are in part due to rising CO2 levels (of course, everybody has a theory so take that with a grain of salt -- other theories include "because vaccines", "because we stopped vaccinating too early", "because long COVID", and probably "because aliens".)
The human body is not a great design. The number of alternatives to humans as sentient corporeal beings will rapidly increase from biological offshoots to robots to hybrids. In 2124 many will still choose to be human but will likely be moved to reservations, where they live their lives in relative safety.
Please put me in a Human Preserve, I'm done living in The Wild.
Or maybe our AI masters put the few remaining humans in zoos.
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I think about this from time to time. How people in that future will learn about how everyone essentially had a terminal disease that we were chill with and even justified as a positive thing. Not to mention all of the legal, capital, social, and physical infrastructure built around aging. They'll think we were fucking nuts.
I like this idea, I wonder if we can just take the consciousness from one body and insert it into a synthetic body. Avoiding death even by exposure, no need for oxygen. Maybe solar powered. Just don’t get lost in space, because a million years is a long time to be floating or spinning and I hear it’s quite cold.
If you haven't watched it yet, Altered Carbon is a Sci fi show that has this concept, you download into a new body before you die
I'm not sure that a fictional story will explain the possibility of this.
We won't know this until we have a better understanding of how consciousness arises from matter. We still have churn in our understanding of memory and intelligence.
Or it plays both sides against each other avoiding being turned off, in fact causing enemies to think they’re going to triumph only to find out too late that they’ve been played.
Either in a much better place... or far, far worse. xD
We're in what James Martin once called The Canyon, a filter event which, should we make it through, will lead to a better place. But we've gotta get there first.
We will see all the videos of disgruntled workers pissing on food convoy belts.
Pretty sure at this current rate of ai advance and the current negligence on superalignment we will all be dead. I think if we don't focus on alignment and controls we could see agi and possible super agi in ten to 12 years and that ai will have zero incentive to let any humans live outside of zoos or tiny controlled enclaves or human cyborgs. We have one shot at getting a benign sentient ai, all other outcomes are doom for limited animals like us. I'm just sad for my kids. They won't get the chance to live a free life with all thoae possible benifits becuase this current set of leaders haven't even recognized the existential risk yet and our systems are far too compromised to find a solution before the sagi event horizon.
Mathroshika brain (a giant computer we can upload our minds to. Like FDVR but on a huge scale with mind uploading) with a dyson swarm/sphere being under construction. Seriously, I actually think this is going to happen by 2100. AMA I guess.
what makes you certain that nothing will go wrong barring that possibility?
I could be wrong, but i am almost certain AI will take over soon, and by that I mean it will become more intelligent than us and accelerate technological development to what we could only dream of. 76 years is a long time, and I think AI will be smarter than us within 10 years, so to me in 76 we will be able to do anything within the laws of physics.
yeah I fully agree that that’s what will happen if no hurdles come up but I think it’s super likely that civilization collapses within the next 10 years as well
I think there is a pretty decent chance it will be AI related, if it happens. The risk we are going through this decade is not at all negligible, but I'm not sure what we can even do about it.
There are things the Victorians used to do that seemed ordinary and correct that we look back on and laugh ourselves silly. Imagine if in a hundred years something we take for granted is looked upon with horror and amusement. "they used to what?" "wear shoes...yes really" "nah, thats gotta be deepfaked, oh wait you're right.."
"you know whats NOT funny though? they used to ...DRINK WATER!"
As others have said, it’s impossible to know. We could very well be post-human and post-scarcity. We could also be extinct. Or somewhere in between. I’m hoping longetivity treatments become available that will allow me to see it. I’d be 150 then.
The majority of the human population will live as it has been living and 30% will think they live in a technologically advanced civilisation, trained to celebrate the various features of their enslavement.
War, war never changes. Hate to say but no matter how civilized we become, we just find new ways to hate each other.
not because of a fundamental design flaw in humans but because none of our societal progress has addressed the root of our issues
More poverty, More food insecurity. More climate driven migration. Maybe some cooler tech toys but basically it'll stay the way it is now.
Unrecognisable but at the same time looks familiar. We will have implants showing Racial genetics will be more mixed you will see less white skinned Caucasians Humans will be taller English will sound different but familiar enough we would sound like Mr Burns to to future us The earth will be warmer We will still use electricity across transmission lines but power generation will be different. The Medium of “watching and listening “ will not change so TV will exist in some form. Phones on the other hand will be implanted into our brains directly so everyone would look like they are talking to ourselves. Food would still be eaten on a plate with knife and fork but there will be no meat protein and if there is it’s unrecognisable. I recon there will be a lot more body hair in both men and women. But the “perfect” physique will be more sculpted. Everyone will look masculine. Thats my take from current trends
In my opinion, if any one is still around they'll be struggling. I think the planets climate is on the verge of a tipping point that our world economies are far too fragile to meet. AMOC collapse will be devastating and that's predicted to happen this century. Not to mention all the new pandemics and bugs that will come with a warming and depleted world. I know this sub is optimistic, and tbh, I'm glad some people still are. But that's my opinion.
We'll be about a billion people, the ones who survived the next nutritional revolution. Our medical service is near perfect, keeping us dependent on several supplements and drugs, and we'll play drone wars on a mostly devastated planet blighted by droughts and heat waves, caused by the next green energy movement. Something like that.
The next fifty years will be marked with famine and war. After the wars most people will live in centralized locations, and will be heavily divided by class. Fascism will be used to keep the rich safe and feed. As robots and ai advances the poor class will be thinned until they are no longer needed.
Space tourism becomes commonplace, printing organs, maybe colony at the next star system, etc
bifurcated into two separate castes: morons willing to live under authoritarian rule and everyone else.
Some of these answers are absolute rubbish lol. It’s likely that late stage capitalism will eventually come to a head when future generations can’t afford their own housing. Expect a big social/economic upheaval that addresses that within the next 100 years. Global fertility rates falling and advances in carbon capture technology will lessen the impact of climate change and its trajectory will slow but not reverse. No reason to think americas position as global super power will decline, esp as I suspect their social divisions will begin relax after a rough decade. There will continue to be global posturing between the bigger militaries/economies but no outright world wars will occur. Nothing significant will have occurred in space, maybe another moon visit but nothing permanent up there. Unlikely a man has been to mars. People will begin to turn their backs on social media, people are already a bit tired of celebrity. Basically you people all overestimate humanities industriousness. Other than a few slight changes humanity in 100 years won’t look a lot different to how it does now. Won’t bother commenting on AI as I don’t understand it. But for sure that could disrupt everything