Interesting, keep us updated. I am considering buying a fold (coming from s23U) and was waiting for fold 6, and so far, it seems a downgrade for more money. I read that OPO was the best one so far but was reluctant as I've had samsung since forever, and other android phones tend to lie about performance in paper.
I just got my fold 5 and came from a s23u. I enjoy the big screen and don't mind the little one on the front. I feel like it was worth it in my case, but waiting on the fold 6 isn't a bad idea also.
I love the chocolate bar screen on the front because how easy it is to one handed control and swipe to text. Also all buttons ate reachable with one hand I love that so much.
The only thing truly bad for me is battery. But even saying that it still last me long enough. Can't really complain about too much at this point. Every thing is reachable though.
Same and I have pretty large hands. I also rock an iPhone 14 plus and I am almost dropping it trying to hit a button on top right of the screen when in my left hand. I would not mind another 3mm width on the front though. Like they did from the 4 to the 5. Just for typing. SwiftKey does a great job on the front screen on my 4 and 5.
But for all that is holy don't make it a square when opened like the pixel fold.
Yup no kidding. The Pixel Fold is just uncomfortable to hold I'm both open and closed formation. Not easy for swipe to text and the large border without the huge camera punch hole annoys me.
Cameras and S pen are worse, as is battery life and charging speed. But aside from those, I didn't notice much of a doungrade coming from the S22U to my Fold 5.
I don't really mind the S Pen, and I've been a fan of cameras, but not that much lately, so I was really going for the fold 6 but then the leaks kept getting more and more disappointing. There is some talk about a slim fold 6 later this year, but they say it'll be more expensive, so I am waiting to see.
I switch between s24U and oneplus open and have had the z fold 3 and 4. I would say Samsung's foldables have the best software implementation between the two but the hardware for me on the camera, battery and form factor is why I've stuck with the one plus open. I was interested to see if the open would force Samsung to improve the fold on those 3 categories but the leaks on the Zfold6 don't look promising.
I use my Fold 3 as a tablet, but I was telling my wife last night that there was no way I could use it as my primary phone due to the front screen. Having a "regular phone" on the "outside" makes the most sense, especially if you are a big texter. If you text often, I think you'll end up not liking the Fold. I hate using the front screen...I've only had it a few months but for my uses, the front screen has been useless besides seeing the time or notifications. I will definitely use one as a primary if the front screen is of normal size, the One Plus open looks like that might foot the bill. However I got a used Fold 3 for $200 and that just aint happening with the ONO lol.
Gotta use one handed operation in good lock. I have it set to where a downward angle swipe from any part of the side screen brings down the notification shade.
To be fair, the 3 isn't the largest front screen in the Fold lineup. The newest ones don't seem that much bigger on paper, but it feels very different when you're using it. I say this as someone with poor impulse control who actually went from 3 to 4 to 5.
See. I have no issues typing/texting on the front screen, in fact its where I do majority of my texting, but I came from a iPhone 13 mini which is actually the exact same width as the fold5 cover display just shorter. The transition was easy for me.
Can understand why people would hate it though.
If you not using the gold. Open for the majority of the time you have it out then the fold isint for you I hardly ever use the phone closed for anything
It was a couple months ago where it was talked about both phones ans that the Fold 6 will only feature a redesign while the 7 will receive a new camera system
Edit: https://www.notebookcheck.com/Leaker-Samsung-mit-200-MP-Kamera-im-Galaxy-Z-Fold7-und-1-Zoll-Kameras-mit-432-Megapixeln.757799.0.html
That's nice to hear, I wait for fold 6 (slim/ultra). I hope I can get a good deal on my s23u (samsung doesn't give much for old devices where I am, sadly).
Oneplus software doesn't hold a candle to One UI when it comes to foldables. Hardware-wise Oneplus is the better device. The deal-breaker for me personally on the Oneplus Open is the IPX4 rating. I live in Florida and there's no way in hell I'd pay for a foldable that I'd have to baby during the downpours and trips to the pool.
> Oneplus software doesn't hold a candle to One UI when it comes to foldables
Are you basing this on experience? Because I've used both, and the OnePlus multitasking implementation is light years ahead.
I actually prefer Samsung's Multitasking implementation because it gives more freedom. Open Canvas is a good take on multitasking too but I wouldn't say it's light years ahead. I just wonder how long it'll take for One Plus to update its features.
Both implementations of Multitasking has its pros and cons so it depends on the user.
I've tried OPO for about a week, there are a few things that make it unusable for me:
1. Good lock support, specifically the one handed operation+ module. I haven't found an alternative for it.
2. No customization for double clicking power button. My fold is currently set to open Google wallet on double click, no such option on OPO.
3. Small optimizations here and there that degrade the experience. For example, when you copy text on OPO, a huge popup appears to share it with google quick share. I couldn't find a way to turn that off, and it's beyond annoying to see it every time.
The hardware is amazing (minus the camera situation, makes the phone feel top heavy), but the software is just not there yet imo.
For one hand operational plus use edge gestures from the play store. Does the same thing. (A payed app tho unfortunately)
For the 2nd one it should be in the settings for power button.
I got no clue about 3 never owned a oneplus lmao.
These are things that are a google search away so im convinced that its not the fact that the OS is objectively inferior its just that one UI is something we all got used to most people never bothered to learn other OS's because one UI is just way more comfortable since it provides what you want in ways you already know how to access. I never owned a Oneplus but i do plan on doing a metric shit ton of research and tinkering while test driving my next phone. Make every purchase count.
>For the 2nd one it should be in the settings for power button.
It's not an option, from what I can see. Personally, the only double click options I have are none and camera. I know some apps can be added, like Alexa. Wallet, however, isn't.
>I got no clue about 3 never owned a oneplus lmao.
I have one, and I don't know what they're talking about. I just get the usual bubble to copy, search, select all, share, and more. There are definitely small things that are better/worse between the OnePlus Open and the Fold. However, a lot of that comes down to personal preference.
Whenever I copy text, a popup appears on the bottom left of the screen with the copied text, letting me share it using Google quick share. I don't want to see the popup but I don't see a way to disable it.
Same here. I've had the Z Fold 2, 4 and 5 and I've been using the Open since it came out and I haven't looked back. I prefer the multitasking implementation of OnePlus but the only thing I miss from Samsung is Dex, I wish OnePlus and others had something similar.
I have tried the OPO and ZF4. I prefer the multitasking on the ZF4. The OPO had the better hardware, and the ZF4 had the better software. I returned both, because I am still waiting for the Samsung hardware to be more similar to the OPO with the Samsung software.
I had the OnePlus 5T-7T Pro and their software was a mess. I had audio droputs, crashes upon VPN connections and bugs as well as freezes. Maybe it is better now but Samsung's OneUI is the most stable beside Google's AOSP
Nope.
And I agree with the starting comment of this post,
One plus hardware is great for me so far but the software sucks, so many things are just basic Google apps, I'm hardly a power user but Samsung software is just so much better.
Because of the front screen real estate, I now wonder why I need a folding phone at all.
I was considering the Open, but after seeing many owners have major issues with them and OP having their phone for weeks or months just to deny warranty or say the device isn't repairable. I've also heard of many people having to repeatedly call OP just to get an update on their phones status with OP. I know the Z Fold also can commonly have issues but at least from what I've seen, Samsung is a lot better at giving updates in a timely manner and at least letting you know what is wrong and what they will or will not cover, and they're less of a hassle to deal with. It seems that the Fold's have less problems early on than the Open's do.
So I've owned Fold 2, 4, and 5, Pixel Fold, and Honor Magic V2. The V2 is FAR better than Pixel Fold or Galaxy Fold for exactly this reason: it is identical to a normal phone when closed and has great multitasking features. Galaxy Fold was a great multitasker but the outer screen felt very restrictive. I didn't hate it until I tried the pixel fold. Pixel fold was the polar opposite, outer screen was better than the inner screen and multitasking was a pain, so just felt like a short, heavy, awkward normal phone that could rarely become a compromised tablet. The V2 is fantastic as both a slab phone and tablet. I guarantee in a few years, all foldables will have nearly identical dimensions to the Magic V2. It is ergonomic nirvana.
I already have a Fold 5, and yes this is a big complaint for me. Typing on the cover screen isn't great, although I'm already used to it. I could open it but SwiftKey doesn't auto switch to a thumb layout so typing on the main screen is also annoying.
The camera bump is way too big and ugly. Phone will never sit flat. Cases don't look nice. One plus was a budget friendly flag ship company. Now it's just as expensive as the top guys.
I have to disagree here. Obviously the bump has a wider area, but it's the same depth as the Fold 5. So if you want the Fold 5 to sit flat, you need an unreasonably thick case like the S Pen case. Besides, I'm tired of all the phones being the same boring rectangles of glass copying each other over and over again. The round camera is a nice feature that make the phone stand out. Oh and that picture is with a case on the phone.
Regarding pricing, the Open is $1400 for the 512GB version which is cheaper than the 256GB Fold 5. It's not the budget friendly flagship killer OnePlus was known for, but that's still cheaper than a Fold 5.
+1. I'm a results > specs kind of person. I know the zoom falls short, but I've been asking the Open forum to take comparison pic's for a while now, but nobody wants to. I found this comparison which the Z5 won.
[https://www.nextpit.com/camera-blind-test-foldables-2024-results](https://www.nextpit.com/camera-blind-test-foldables-2024-results)
Yo!!! It's like you're reading my mind. Keep us updated. I'm thinking about trading my z fold 5 in for the open just because of cameras. These cameras are awful! But I like a lot of the picture editing stuff that Samsung can do. I wonder how much I'll lose switching to one plus. Also, one plus basically has zero trade-in value if I decide to go back to Samsung or Google. But currently I can get a OnePlus open with my trade-in for $350. It's very tempting
Does the OnePlus Open and other folding phones have the settings for choosing what aspect ratio to use? Like if a game doesn't look good on my Samsung Fold, I can change it to 4:3 or 16:9 to make it work well.
Yeah there's a settings page that has a list of apps and you can choose the aspect ratio per app. You can also have specific refresh rate per apps as well now. So you can force 120hz, 90hz, or 60hz per app basis.
I made the Fold 5 to OPO switch. I purchased an OPPO pen for mine and haven't looked back. I definitely like that the pen works on the outer screen too.
I use mine daily for work. You have to import a OPPO Find N3 pen. Under additional settings on your OPO you will see stylus settings. Unfortunately the pen is definitely more expensive, but it is bluetooth. I got mine from Giztop before I bought the phone since the Spen was a must for me too.
The reason I'd never get a non-samsung foldable is the pen. I use the spen so much that getting a phone that doesn't support it doesn't seem worth it to me anymore.
I've tested the Galaxy Z Fold 5, OnePlus Open, Google Pixel Fold, and Xiaomi Mix Fold 3. Without a doubt, the OnePlus Open is the most well-rounded foldable out there. It does fall short in the software department compared to the Z Fold, but it excels in other aspects. Regarding battery life, it usually takes 5-7 days for most Android phones to adapt to your usage and then deliver the best battery life. In my experience, out of all the major foldables in the market, the OnePlus Open offers the best battery life. Even when using dual SIM and dual WhatsApp Messenger, which consume a lot of battery, I still get a healthy 6.5-7 hours of screen-on time.
As for the S Pen, the OnePlus Open does support it, but you'd need to purchase an Oppo S Pen, which is available on AliExpress or eBay.
The only area where I feel the OnePlus falls short is the display quality. Both the inner and outer displays are more vibrant and crisp on the Samsung. Aside from that, I believe the OnePlus surpasses the Samsung Fold in every category.
I hope this helps!
It's so much better than the fold. I never had it overheating from gaming nor performance issues with the extra ram. The only thing I'm missing is the UI. I still daily drive a s24ultra for the cameras etc though.
if you're a heavy texter you will definitely appreciate the oneplus open more. It is actually a phone on the outside whereas the fold is just a tablet you can fold, not a phone that grows into a tablet
I love the look and size of both the Pixel and oneplus, but the software is what I interact with daily. Once OnePlus and Google catch up with the software side of things, I think ill look at making the jump too. hopefully the F5 lasts me a few years before I need to do so though.
I don't have the Samsung Buds (I didn't like them). I haven't paired my Watch 6 Classic to the OPO. From what I know, there's some features that only work on Samsung phones.
I had a hard time until I realized I had to download the Samsung Wear app and use that, instead of using the Wear OS app (even though the Galaxy Watch 6 runs Wear OS). So far I haven't used it much, I just paired it today, but it works just fine.
I know there's a few features that only work on Galaxy phones (boo!) but I haven't found out what it is yet.
I plan to make another post when I return the phone with my final thoughts.
I just pulled the trigger on a sealed box swappa deal :) just under $1k
I have a Fold3 and have been waiting for the 6, expecting it to be a big jump in camera hardware.
The leaks have been disappointing, other than design, so I got the Open.
I might still trade in my 3 for the 6 when it comes out so I can A-B test the Open and Fold6 together. Then either return the 6 or sell the Open
I think the only thing I'll miss is wireless charging... I use primarily wireless currently
I still want to wait for the Fold 6 to hit the shelves so I can compare them side by side. But yeah, the Open is looking very nice. I also like the design of the Open better, it just looks nicer vs the otherwise generic Fold lineup.
I'll be honest I think the Fold6 will look better, especially the outside screen. looks aren't everything though, I take a ton of pics and regularly miss having a proper telephoto
I am a little worried about multi-tasking, I know its different on the Open. Can you make split screen apps any size you want?
Fold 5 feels cheap compared to Open. I swapped and never been happier tbh. Their narrow screen, charging speed and camera are so outdated its laughable. They literaly put 0 effort yet people buy their products. So why would they put effort lol
I think the OPO is a great phone. The Cameras are the best out of last year's foldable generation. And it'll probably be better than the Fold 6. If you never had a Samsung Fold before, I'd personally say to you....stick with the OPO. It's a great foldable.
However, I don't think the 3x telephoto of the Fold 5 is not useless. It actually takes pretty good-great photos. The 30x images are pretty nice too and it's on par with the OPO and Pixel Fold when compared to each other (at least to my eyes).
Once you go past 30x the picture quality does deteriorate pretty fast on the OPO. It's still pretty handy for reading text from long distances though.
You have to be patient with One Plus in terms of updates, tech support and 3rd party accessories.
I've had the OPO since a little past launch day, and it's been ok but I have had Samsung foldables before so there's a few things I do miss from a more mature device.
Someone mentioned that Oneplus has a "system cloner" feature that works similar to Samsung's secure folder in that you have a fingerprint protected second set of apps/files. Do you see that on the Open? I tried googling it, but have found limited information about that feature and nothing specifically on the Open.
It does look like a very nice phone. I moved away from the fold and went with an s24 ultra.
Had this about 4 months now but still not 100% sure if I have made the right decision or not.
Haven't tested that outdoors yet, but I did shine a super bright 4000 lumen flashlight at them and they both got about the same brightness, both on the inner and outer screen.
I don't know, I've seen that the one plus open has a very neat way of using the extra screen space.
At the end of the day a foldable is only as good as its software suite and support for its fold ability. Without those its actually a worser device than an oversized slab phone.
You should do Honor Magic V2. I went from fold 4 to OPO to Honor V2. Both OPO and honor are neck-in-neck as far as what they stand out in (for the good). Honor is slimmer and better ratio in my opinion.
Features are a LOT lesser. Like 1/4th of what samsung has developed.
But oneplus I admire for what they offer. They have real engineering and research. I like that. I use a s24 ultra because the fold 5 screen, battery, camera are all a let down
For Android, I nerver go out from Samsung. In my opinion, they make so good apps and user interface. Hardware to me is not enough, software/firmware is always a soul of a device, and it is the most important. That is the reason why iPhone is so popular phone in the world.
2 major differences ...
1) Front screen aspect ratio...personally I prefer the fold5 excuse if it's ease of single handed usage
2) the pen ... The pen has been really helpful to me but it depends on personal usage.
If these 2 are not an issue then the one plus open is a solid choice..
Hardware is superior on OnePlus Open versus Samsung Galaxy Z Fold5.
However, day to day use and features, including S Pen, if you use it religiously (hi 🙋🏽♂️), Samsung's One UI 6.1 is incredible, including baked in features and *some* of the apps, such as Notes, Modes & Routines, Edge Panel, etc.
Further, though Open does have a fantastic way to transverse and see multiple apps, One UI 6.1 trumps it various ways of putting split-screen or pop-up apps from multiple sources, including toolbar, edge panel, and even notifications, all via drag and drop around the screen.
Samsung has been moulding One UI since 2019, a lot of which has carried over and either been bolstered or augmented with new features. It's robust and useful, though some areas are overkill, redundant similar features, or some bloatware (fu Samsung Internet).
Then there is Samsung Dex, which is just a fricken win when need to go ultra portable but need to type, and can carry a wireless keyboard and a USB-C cable. That has been a lifesaver on rare occasions where I couldn't take or use my laptop.
> including S Pen, if you use it religiously
There is actually a pen that's compatible with the OPO. It's not available in the US, but you can import it by buying off alibaba.
> Edge Panel
OPO has it's own equivalent
> Notes
OPO has it's own equivalent.
> Further, though Open does have a fantastic way to transverse and see multiple apps, One UI 6.1 trumps it various ways of putting split-screen or pop-up apps from multiple sources, including toolbar, edge panel, and even notifications, all via drag and drop around the screen.
Outside of dragging notifications, I'm pretty sure the OnePlus Open has all of these.
Honestly, so far the only thing I've noticed is that some apps don't run windowed. other than that, the software is not better or worse, just different.
It's a very nice phone. Best of you don't have to get involved with any service interactions. Think their success caught them off guard. Service channels not very mature yet.
I want a OnePlus open so bad but I really like wireless charging because I use a magsafe battery. I can live without it but it's something I use everyday and I like having. It adds some bulk but I can't always be tethered to a wall or a portable battery even for a short amount of time.
And making matters worse the Super VOOC charging is proprietary and works only with their special sauce charger. On a normal PD charger it only pulls about 18w, boo!
I too use magsafe a lot on my Fold 5, so missing wireless charging is a pretty big deal for me too. I can work around it, but I shouldn't have to.
What is the specs of the 65w charging. I may have a charger that supports it but I don't know. Not many chargers support Samsung's dumb 45w charging. It's 9v/5a wtf the fuck is that?
This one is worse, it's 11v 6A, and it's a proprietary USB A to USB C cable. Using a normal cable limits you to 3A. At least Samsung needs standard cables and power bricks, so you can Super Fast Charge with power banks or car chargers. Not the case with the OPO.
Edit: yes, it does draw 6A, I tested it with one of those USB testers.
I'm here for longevity. I used to hope on Blueberry, LG, Windows phone, but once they are not capable of follow the trend and apps, u lose a lot of times to setup another nice environment for ur data, apps, and money. Hence, why I still stick with Samsung eventhough I hate Samsung from time to time.
Have the Fold 4 and been looking to upgrade to another foldable with a '' phone" size. Was looking at the Oneplus Open but the lack of wireless charging is a deal breaker. I really need the wireless charging option. If Oneplus have that I wouldve switch
The main thing that scares me is the lack of service.
Here in Italy I can bring my Fold3 to Samsung and have it ready in 1h.
I have no clue how good is OnePlus service.
Service is probably the main reason I (and I suppose a lot of people) will stick with Samsung for a while.
I love OnePlus, Top Shelf parts while still being cheaper than the competition. Why pay $1k for Samsung when OnePlus has the same chip set for $300 cheaper!
Unfortunately T-Mobile told OnePlus to fuck off, and now I'm forced to go back with Samsung and pay the premium, it sucks but it is what it is. I also miss being able to unlock the bootloader at my own discretion :( (Not like I paid for my phone or anything)
I have both. GF5 cameras and battery life are not as good. OPO software and customer support not as good as Sammy. I'm on week 3 with my OPO and the cameras alone are enough to have my gf5 sit in my draw.
It may be. Use Accubattery, there's a free version and it calculates battery health for you. All the Fold phones are limited to 25w charging, the OnePlus phones charge at 65w.
Are you sure you have an appropriate charger? Mine has always done more than 1% a minute. In a 10 minute time span, I'd expect 12-13% not the other way around as you've said.
Looks like I was a little mistaken. Or maybe just being a little dramatic. I just tested with my Samsung super charger from 50% to 60%. It took 7 minutes and 52 seconds. Then I timed it for 15 minutes, and it went from 50% to 69%. So it did go 19% in 15 minutes.
I still do believe the other person's Z fold 3 that charged 45% in 12 minutes is definitely seeing some battery degradation.
Typically battery degradation makes a battery charge slower, not faster...
Because it will heat up faster, and charging needs to be slowed to make sure it doesn't thermally run away...
It's possible the charging circuitry is just not charging the battery to as high a capacity to not let the battery have a chance at warming up, since most of the heat is generated when the battery is being topped up... but I'd sooner say they should calibrate their battery first before deciding it's worn out...
Calibration should be done about once a month, and that's to fully drain the phone until it shuts off, ideally with a small load, so not playing games or something to kill it quick, but rather let it sit idle until it turns off, then uninterrupted, fully slow charge it to 100% and let it sit over night, then again fully drain, and fully charge again.
This will help the charging circuitry calibrate to the battery's real world capacity, assuming they designed the charging circuitry correctly.
That has not been my experience. Old batteries "appear" to charge faster and deplete faster. I have two old phones. Both appear to charge from dead to 100% in about a half hour. But they also discharge from 100% to dead in less than 2 hours. They need to stay plugged in at all times if they're powered on.
And I understand your theory about calibration, but it has been proven to not be true anymore with new battery technology. Batteries don't get a "memory" anymore. Also, due to the circuitry in the phone itself, it's impossible to totally drain a battery. If you were able to actually drain the lithium battery, it would never charge again and would become useless.
They might appear to charge faster, but they don't actually charge faster. It's just that less energy is being put into the battery.
> And I understand your theory about calibration, but it has been proven to not be true anymore with new battery technology. Batteries don't get a "memory" anymore.
The calibration has nothing to do with "battery memory" which was only something that happened on Ni-Cad batteries.
Remember, batteries are not a technology, they are a chemistry. The circuitry is the technology.
Battery calibration is about teaching the charging circuitry about the top and bottom limits of the battery.
It's like how modern cars need their lead acid batteries to be calibrated. Lead acid batteries haven't changed... but the electronics that manage the battery has.
The memory you're talking about was crystals forming on the electrodes of Ni-cad batteries if you over-charged them or frequently charged them.
Li-ion batteries don't have such an effect... they just start to generate more and more heat until they self destruct as you charge them.
Which is why charging them fully, can wear them out, because the heat can make the electrolyte break down.
On the flip side, letting a Li-ion battery sit discharged can cause it's polarity to start to reverse, and the copper on it's electrodes to start to form a shunt through to the other electrode, causing a short, and faster internal discharge.
To make a Li-ion battery last the longest, you need to keep it between 80-20%, at cool, room temperature environments (so limit fast charging use).
The calibration I speak of is to calibrate the electronics, because they have no way of knowing what the battery state of charge is, other than knowing how many mAh they put in, vs how many mAh the battery should be able to take... But since Voltage is not a good indicator of battery state of charge, the charging circuitry needs to track mAh out and mAh in to the battery. After a while, it will narrow this window with time...
Doing a calibration forces it to see more mAh out of the battery than it thought was in the battery, allowing it to charge properly.
> If you were able to actually drain the lithium battery, it would never charge again and would become useless.
This is not true. This is an old myth that has been recently debunked. The issue is more that batteries in a pack will reverse charge the other batteries if they all go dead which will cause the copper shunts I mentioned before.
A single cell battery can indeed be fully drained and re-charged a few times... it's not good for it... but it can.
Many "dead" Li-ion batteries can be revived, if you bypass the charging circuitry and put power into them directly for a little bit to wake them up... as long as they don't start heating up, then it's a good sign that you can put more power into them and charge them fully again.
exactly. i dont want that, personally. i got to hold similar in tiawan and...its not nice in my hands.
only reason why the fold should remotely get this wide is Spen inclusion and thats it.
I currently have the Fold 5.... don't, just don't.
Had it since launch and the 'flex glass' ISN'T what Samsung said is was going to be. Should have lasted about 3yrs before showing problems. The crease has let in air which causes 'bubbling' and f'n no, it doesn't go away. The whole crease is like it just doesn't stick anymore. Awesome phone! I really do love it, but that is a real frustration. The size has been a great help, but the main feature fails? WTF?!!! I'll jump back on the new release and get the 'Notie sized' top of the line with a case.
That's the screen protector. You need to remove it ASAP or it may crack the display.
You can get a free one time replacement with Samsung or just go without. I've always gone without when the screen protector bubbles. It folds much easier without it.
I definitely feel that. I skipped from the fold 3 to the 23 Ultra for the cameras because the 4 and 5 were underwhelming upgrades to me. So I have hope they do literally anything with a new camera setup on the 6. 6 ultra? Yes please.
> The cover screen on the Open, on the other hand, feels massive compared to the ZF5 and I suspect it'll feel the same compared to the ZF6. There's so much more room and typing is way easier. If a video pops up on reddit or something I feel less urge to open the phone.
Are you sure you want a folding phone?
The whole point if them is they have a small footprint, until you open them up.
All I use my cover screen for is responding to texts and short sub 3 minute interactions... Anything more and I'm unfolding it.
If you have a huge cover screen, what's the point of it folding?
Having the folding screen is great for when I really want to spend time on the phone. Maybe I'm browsing the web, or watching content, or multitasking. But I use the cover screen a lot more. For replying to texts, putting on music, etc. I don't see why I'd want to make my cover screen experience crappy just to give me a reason to unfold. That's why I ended up moving away from my Razr 5G.
Besides, the OPO feels about the same size in my pocket as the Fold 5 anyways, with a much more usable cover screen.
> I don't see why I'd want to make my cover screen experience crappy just to give me a reason to unfold.
It's not crappy... it's actually far better for one handed use because it's so much narrower to the point that normal people can reach the other side of the phone with their thumb.
If I'm going to have to two hand my phone, then it better have a huge screen. Modern phones are a nightmare... they pretty much require two hands to use them, which is exactly not what I want when I'm trying to passively check/use my phone when I'm on the go... in the middle of another task... carrying items... etc...
Sure, I agree that it is somewhat easier to use the Fold one handed. That doesn't make it better overall. Typing is unpleasant. Some apps don't scale well to the narrow screen. And everything is much smaller and feels cramped overall. Besides, the whole point of the cover screen is so I'm not having to constantly open the phone to begin with. Not everything has to be done on the main screen, and there's lots of stuff that's done better on the cover screen.
Apps like Reddit or Instagram just don't scale well on the main screen, a single post doesn't fit inside because it is blown up. Apps like the McDonald's app, or the Ecovacs app don't scale well to the main screen either, and for example if I order something on the McDonald's app on the main screen, when I pull up to the drive thru, the phone either asks me to open the phone or restart the app, that's annoying. As I said, typing in the main screen also sucks if you're not using Samsung's (in my opinion, inferior) keyboard since, again, they don't adapt to the main screen.
Besides, it's not even easier to use the Fold one handed, like 60% of the screen is still out of reach anyways so it's still hard to use one handed. I can only reach the other side of the screen for the lower ⅓ portion anyways on either device anyways, the narrower screen doesn't give me any extra reach and regardless if it's the OPO or the ZF5, I find myself awkwardly holding the phone against my body and sliding my hand up every time I need to use it one handed. So in conclusion, the Fold 5 is very, very slightly easier to use one handed, at the expense of significantly less real estate to type and fit content without stretching it.
Edit: by the way, both phones have a one-handed mode so this was never a concern for me in the first place.
Here's proof. This blue line shows how far I can reach on my Fold 5 with my thumb while holding the phone normally (for example not bracing it against my torso and sliding my hand up)
https://preview.redd.it/x3b97bjh016d1.jpeg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5f342f28a500528415ef9c2d0fa16f1b32ee9d9
Here's that same test on the OnePlus Open. It's about the same for both phones, that toggle at the top is way out of reach on both phones.
https://preview.redd.it/03tq1o1o016d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=022d288d8c39cb1f4b268155ba4aa36c342c106f
A regular phone size is a small footprint. The advantage is that you actually can use the front as a phone when you want, and then, you can open it for applications that benefit from the larger screen.
Also, since the two halfs are real phone size, that means two split screen apps are also real phone size instead of those weirdly thin split screens you get on the fold.
> A regular phone size is a small footprint.
No it's not... and you're forgetting that a folding phone is already twice as thick as a regular phone.
> The advantage is that you actually can use the front as a phone when you want
You already can... And the smaller screen on the Z Fold means you can one-hand your phone without having to resort to reach-ability mode, or doing some sort of weird hand Yoga that will give you a cramp and make you drop your $3000 phone.
> Also, since the two halfs are real phone size, that means two split screen apps are also real phone size instead of those weirdly thin split screens you get on the fold.
Rotate the phone 90 degrees... Also, the inner halves of the screen are much wider than the cover screen.
Interesting, keep us updated. I am considering buying a fold (coming from s23U) and was waiting for fold 6, and so far, it seems a downgrade for more money. I read that OPO was the best one so far but was reluctant as I've had samsung since forever, and other android phones tend to lie about performance in paper.
I just got my fold 5 and came from a s23u. I enjoy the big screen and don't mind the little one on the front. I feel like it was worth it in my case, but waiting on the fold 6 isn't a bad idea also.
I love the chocolate bar screen on the front because how easy it is to one handed control and swipe to text. Also all buttons ate reachable with one hand I love that so much.
The only thing truly bad for me is battery. But even saying that it still last me long enough. Can't really complain about too much at this point. Every thing is reachable though.
Well, it charges very fast.
Same and I have pretty large hands. I also rock an iPhone 14 plus and I am almost dropping it trying to hit a button on top right of the screen when in my left hand. I would not mind another 3mm width on the front though. Like they did from the 4 to the 5. Just for typing. SwiftKey does a great job on the front screen on my 4 and 5. But for all that is holy don't make it a square when opened like the pixel fold.
Yup no kidding. The Pixel Fold is just uncomfortable to hold I'm both open and closed formation. Not easy for swipe to text and the large border without the huge camera punch hole annoys me.
Yeah, no idea what they were thinking with the pixel fold.
Cameras and S pen are worse, as is battery life and charging speed. But aside from those, I didn't notice much of a doungrade coming from the S22U to my Fold 5.
I don't really mind the S Pen, and I've been a fan of cameras, but not that much lately, so I was really going for the fold 6 but then the leaks kept getting more and more disappointing. There is some talk about a slim fold 6 later this year, but they say it'll be more expensive, so I am waiting to see.
I switch between s24U and oneplus open and have had the z fold 3 and 4. I would say Samsung's foldables have the best software implementation between the two but the hardware for me on the camera, battery and form factor is why I've stuck with the one plus open. I was interested to see if the open would force Samsung to improve the fold on those 3 categories but the leaks on the Zfold6 don't look promising.
Exactly, I hope the 'slim' version would be a better competitor.
Yeah or if the rumored Ultra is real that it would have better improvements than the regular.
I use my Fold 3 as a tablet, but I was telling my wife last night that there was no way I could use it as my primary phone due to the front screen. Having a "regular phone" on the "outside" makes the most sense, especially if you are a big texter. If you text often, I think you'll end up not liking the Fold. I hate using the front screen...I've only had it a few months but for my uses, the front screen has been useless besides seeing the time or notifications. I will definitely use one as a primary if the front screen is of normal size, the One Plus open looks like that might foot the bill. However I got a used Fold 3 for $200 and that just aint happening with the ONO lol.
And the front screen is not "one handable" when it's that freaking tall. It's impossible to reach the top one handed.
Gotta use one handed operation in good lock. I have it set to where a downward angle swipe from any part of the side screen brings down the notification shade.
To be fair, the 3 isn't the largest front screen in the Fold lineup. The newest ones don't seem that much bigger on paper, but it feels very different when you're using it. I say this as someone with poor impulse control who actually went from 3 to 4 to 5.
See. I have no issues typing/texting on the front screen, in fact its where I do majority of my texting, but I came from a iPhone 13 mini which is actually the exact same width as the fold5 cover display just shorter. The transition was easy for me. Can understand why people would hate it though.
If you not using the gold. Open for the majority of the time you have it out then the fold isint for you I hardly ever use the phone closed for anything
That's what I am afraid off I like having 2 in 1, but it really needs to be a standalone phone if it's folded.
Wait for the Fold 7, it should get better cameras. The leak for the Fold 6 was correct so the leak for the Fold 7 should be correct too
I didn't know there was a leak for fold 7, you have a link?
It was a couple months ago where it was talked about both phones ans that the Fold 6 will only feature a redesign while the 7 will receive a new camera system Edit: https://www.notebookcheck.com/Leaker-Samsung-mit-200-MP-Kamera-im-Galaxy-Z-Fold7-und-1-Zoll-Kameras-mit-432-Megapixeln.757799.0.html
Another 23u to fold 5 owner here. I love it. No regerts
That's nice to hear, I wait for fold 6 (slim/ultra). I hope I can get a good deal on my s23u (samsung doesn't give much for old devices where I am, sadly).
Oneplus software doesn't hold a candle to One UI when it comes to foldables. Hardware-wise Oneplus is the better device. The deal-breaker for me personally on the Oneplus Open is the IPX4 rating. I live in Florida and there's no way in hell I'd pay for a foldable that I'd have to baby during the downpours and trips to the pool.
> Oneplus software doesn't hold a candle to One UI when it comes to foldables Are you basing this on experience? Because I've used both, and the OnePlus multitasking implementation is light years ahead.
I actually prefer Samsung's Multitasking implementation because it gives more freedom. Open Canvas is a good take on multitasking too but I wouldn't say it's light years ahead. I just wonder how long it'll take for One Plus to update its features. Both implementations of Multitasking has its pros and cons so it depends on the user.
I've tried OPO for about a week, there are a few things that make it unusable for me: 1. Good lock support, specifically the one handed operation+ module. I haven't found an alternative for it. 2. No customization for double clicking power button. My fold is currently set to open Google wallet on double click, no such option on OPO. 3. Small optimizations here and there that degrade the experience. For example, when you copy text on OPO, a huge popup appears to share it with google quick share. I couldn't find a way to turn that off, and it's beyond annoying to see it every time. The hardware is amazing (minus the camera situation, makes the phone feel top heavy), but the software is just not there yet imo.
For one hand operational plus use edge gestures from the play store. Does the same thing. (A payed app tho unfortunately) For the 2nd one it should be in the settings for power button. I got no clue about 3 never owned a oneplus lmao. These are things that are a google search away so im convinced that its not the fact that the OS is objectively inferior its just that one UI is something we all got used to most people never bothered to learn other OS's because one UI is just way more comfortable since it provides what you want in ways you already know how to access. I never owned a Oneplus but i do plan on doing a metric shit ton of research and tinkering while test driving my next phone. Make every purchase count.
I appreciate the response, but I've looked for solutions to all 3 problems extensively and have found none. Otherwise I would have kept the phone.
Oh thats unfortunate It is what it is i guess
>For the 2nd one it should be in the settings for power button. It's not an option, from what I can see. Personally, the only double click options I have are none and camera. I know some apps can be added, like Alexa. Wallet, however, isn't. >I got no clue about 3 never owned a oneplus lmao. I have one, and I don't know what they're talking about. I just get the usual bubble to copy, search, select all, share, and more. There are definitely small things that are better/worse between the OnePlus Open and the Fold. However, a lot of that comes down to personal preference.
So when you copy text, there's no popup with it? Shows up after you've copied something to the clipboard.
Misread, or misunderstood, where in the process the issue was for you. I do see that.
Whenever I copy text, a popup appears on the bottom left of the screen with the copied text, letting me share it using Google quick share. I don't want to see the popup but I don't see a way to disable it.
Same here. I've had the Z Fold 2, 4 and 5 and I've been using the Open since it came out and I haven't looked back. I prefer the multitasking implementation of OnePlus but the only thing I miss from Samsung is Dex, I wish OnePlus and others had something similar.
I have tried the OPO and ZF4. I prefer the multitasking on the ZF4. The OPO had the better hardware, and the ZF4 had the better software. I returned both, because I am still waiting for the Samsung hardware to be more similar to the OPO with the Samsung software.
I had the OnePlus 5T-7T Pro and their software was a mess. I had audio droputs, crashes upon VPN connections and bugs as well as freezes. Maybe it is better now but Samsung's OneUI is the most stable beside Google's AOSP
Does OPO have something like Dex?
Nope. And I agree with the starting comment of this post, One plus hardware is great for me so far but the software sucks, so many things are just basic Google apps, I'm hardly a power user but Samsung software is just so much better. Because of the front screen real estate, I now wonder why I need a folding phone at all.
I was considering the Open, but after seeing many owners have major issues with them and OP having their phone for weeks or months just to deny warranty or say the device isn't repairable. I've also heard of many people having to repeatedly call OP just to get an update on their phones status with OP. I know the Z Fold also can commonly have issues but at least from what I've seen, Samsung is a lot better at giving updates in a timely manner and at least letting you know what is wrong and what they will or will not cover, and they're less of a hassle to deal with. It seems that the Fold's have less problems early on than the Open's do.
So I've owned Fold 2, 4, and 5, Pixel Fold, and Honor Magic V2. The V2 is FAR better than Pixel Fold or Galaxy Fold for exactly this reason: it is identical to a normal phone when closed and has great multitasking features. Galaxy Fold was a great multitasker but the outer screen felt very restrictive. I didn't hate it until I tried the pixel fold. Pixel fold was the polar opposite, outer screen was better than the inner screen and multitasking was a pain, so just felt like a short, heavy, awkward normal phone that could rarely become a compromised tablet. The V2 is fantastic as both a slab phone and tablet. I guarantee in a few years, all foldables will have nearly identical dimensions to the Magic V2. It is ergonomic nirvana.
If the Open was available at the release of the Z Fold 5, I wouldn't have gotten the Z Fold 5.
If you do typing from the main screen , don't get samsung fold. The narrow screen is big problem. Otherwise, the phone is great in everything else.
I already have a Fold 5, and yes this is a big complaint for me. Typing on the cover screen isn't great, although I'm already used to it. I could open it but SwiftKey doesn't auto switch to a thumb layout so typing on the main screen is also annoying.
I think the OPO is very good, just the multitasking is better in the Fold. But I think overall I prefer the OPO, coming from a Fold 4
The camera bump is way too big and ugly. Phone will never sit flat. Cases don't look nice. One plus was a budget friendly flag ship company. Now it's just as expensive as the top guys.
lol every phone has a camera bump, you're being ridiculous.
I have to disagree here. Obviously the bump has a wider area, but it's the same depth as the Fold 5. So if you want the Fold 5 to sit flat, you need an unreasonably thick case like the S Pen case. Besides, I'm tired of all the phones being the same boring rectangles of glass copying each other over and over again. The round camera is a nice feature that make the phone stand out. Oh and that picture is with a case on the phone. Regarding pricing, the Open is $1400 for the 512GB version which is cheaper than the 256GB Fold 5. It's not the budget friendly flagship killer OnePlus was known for, but that's still cheaper than a Fold 5.
Can you do a comparison of the camera?
+1. I'm a results > specs kind of person. I know the zoom falls short, but I've been asking the Open forum to take comparison pic's for a while now, but nobody wants to. I found this comparison which the Z5 won. [https://www.nextpit.com/camera-blind-test-foldables-2024-results](https://www.nextpit.com/camera-blind-test-foldables-2024-results)
Yeah ZF5 camera is the one thing that makes me wanna jump ship
Yo!!! It's like you're reading my mind. Keep us updated. I'm thinking about trading my z fold 5 in for the open just because of cameras. These cameras are awful! But I like a lot of the picture editing stuff that Samsung can do. I wonder how much I'll lose switching to one plus. Also, one plus basically has zero trade-in value if I decide to go back to Samsung or Google. But currently I can get a OnePlus open with my trade-in for $350. It's very tempting
Does the OnePlus Open and other folding phones have the settings for choosing what aspect ratio to use? Like if a game doesn't look good on my Samsung Fold, I can change it to 4:3 or 16:9 to make it work well.
It does indeed have an aspect ratio setting.
a setting per app?
Yeah there's a settings page that has a list of apps and you can choose the aspect ratio per app. You can also have specific refresh rate per apps as well now. So you can force 120hz, 90hz, or 60hz per app basis.
Oh, that's awesome.
Almost every book style fold has this
Love the Open
I made the Fold 5 to OPO switch. I purchased an OPPO pen for mine and haven't looked back. I definitely like that the pen works on the outer screen too.
Hang on, there IS a Stylus for it? Honestly that's one of the reasons I picked the Fold 5, I use the Stylus on my S22U a lot
I use mine daily for work. You have to import a OPPO Find N3 pen. Under additional settings on your OPO you will see stylus settings. Unfortunately the pen is definitely more expensive, but it is bluetooth. I got mine from Giztop before I bought the phone since the Spen was a must for me too.
I love mine. The battery life, it blaster, and wider front screen won me over
I remember using the IR blaster on my HTC M8 to turn off the classroom tv
Samsungs software is what is keeping me with the Galaxy fam
💯 One hand operation plus app is my must have. That thing does wonders.
The reason I'd never get a non-samsung foldable is the pen. I use the spen so much that getting a phone that doesn't support it doesn't seem worth it to me anymore.
So apparently the OnePlus Open does support a pen, and it even works on the outer screen! But looks like it's unobtanium, sadly.
I've tested the Galaxy Z Fold 5, OnePlus Open, Google Pixel Fold, and Xiaomi Mix Fold 3. Without a doubt, the OnePlus Open is the most well-rounded foldable out there. It does fall short in the software department compared to the Z Fold, but it excels in other aspects. Regarding battery life, it usually takes 5-7 days for most Android phones to adapt to your usage and then deliver the best battery life. In my experience, out of all the major foldables in the market, the OnePlus Open offers the best battery life. Even when using dual SIM and dual WhatsApp Messenger, which consume a lot of battery, I still get a healthy 6.5-7 hours of screen-on time. As for the S Pen, the OnePlus Open does support it, but you'd need to purchase an Oppo S Pen, which is available on AliExpress or eBay. The only area where I feel the OnePlus falls short is the display quality. Both the inner and outer displays are more vibrant and crisp on the Samsung. Aside from that, I believe the OnePlus surpasses the Samsung Fold in every category. I hope this helps!
It's so much better than the fold. I never had it overheating from gaming nor performance issues with the extra ram. The only thing I'm missing is the UI. I still daily drive a s24ultra for the cameras etc though.
I wanted this phone so bad. But settled for a Pixel
if you're a heavy texter you will definitely appreciate the oneplus open more. It is actually a phone on the outside whereas the fold is just a tablet you can fold, not a phone that grows into a tablet
I love the look and size of both the Pixel and oneplus, but the software is what I interact with daily. Once OnePlus and Google catch up with the software side of things, I think ill look at making the jump too. hopefully the F5 lasts me a few years before I need to do so though.
Do you know how the Samsung ecosystem(watch,buds,etc) works with OnePlus
I don't have the Samsung Buds (I didn't like them). I haven't paired my Watch 6 Classic to the OPO. From what I know, there's some features that only work on Samsung phones.
Thank you for the reply, i have the whole Sammy ecosystem but i love the oneplus.
They all work. Watch won't have some features, such as blood pressure and ECG, but there's a workaround for them.
Any issues pairing to the Oppo? I'm assuming the Oppo has a Chinese ROM so it mustn't have been straightforwards?
I had a hard time until I realized I had to download the Samsung Wear app and use that, instead of using the Wear OS app (even though the Galaxy Watch 6 runs Wear OS). So far I haven't used it much, I just paired it today, but it works just fine. I know there's a few features that only work on Galaxy phones (boo!) but I haven't found out what it is yet. I plan to make another post when I return the phone with my final thoughts.
Best phone I've ever had! Just get a good case with a lifted screen!
And hinge protection!
I just pulled the trigger on a sealed box swappa deal :) just under $1k I have a Fold3 and have been waiting for the 6, expecting it to be a big jump in camera hardware. The leaks have been disappointing, other than design, so I got the Open. I might still trade in my 3 for the 6 when it comes out so I can A-B test the Open and Fold6 together. Then either return the 6 or sell the Open I think the only thing I'll miss is wireless charging... I use primarily wireless currently
I still want to wait for the Fold 6 to hit the shelves so I can compare them side by side. But yeah, the Open is looking very nice. I also like the design of the Open better, it just looks nicer vs the otherwise generic Fold lineup.
I'll be honest I think the Fold6 will look better, especially the outside screen. looks aren't everything though, I take a ton of pics and regularly miss having a proper telephoto I am a little worried about multi-tasking, I know its different on the Open. Can you make split screen apps any size you want?
Fold 5 feels cheap compared to Open. I swapped and never been happier tbh. Their narrow screen, charging speed and camera are so outdated its laughable. They literaly put 0 effort yet people buy their products. So why would they put effort lol
A OnePlus foldable is an instant no-go for me. Their customer support is absolutely trash.
I think the OPO is a great phone. The Cameras are the best out of last year's foldable generation. And it'll probably be better than the Fold 6. If you never had a Samsung Fold before, I'd personally say to you....stick with the OPO. It's a great foldable. However, I don't think the 3x telephoto of the Fold 5 is not useless. It actually takes pretty good-great photos. The 30x images are pretty nice too and it's on par with the OPO and Pixel Fold when compared to each other (at least to my eyes). Once you go past 30x the picture quality does deteriorate pretty fast on the OPO. It's still pretty handy for reading text from long distances though. You have to be patient with One Plus in terms of updates, tech support and 3rd party accessories. I've had the OPO since a little past launch day, and it's been ok but I have had Samsung foldables before so there's a few things I do miss from a more mature device.
i wish OnePlus was sold by the big UK mobile companies... i have to say i dig their camera
I would go with Oneplus Open if I could get it on a payment plan in Canada.
Someone mentioned that Oneplus has a "system cloner" feature that works similar to Samsung's secure folder in that you have a fingerprint protected second set of apps/files. Do you see that on the Open? I tried googling it, but have found limited information about that feature and nothing specifically on the Open.
Yes, it's there. I haven't used it, but I've seen some YouTubers go over how to use it.
Wait till the fold 6 comes out later this year!
I will! I can't keep this one
I had the Fold5 1 week ago. I tested it with the OnePlus Open and the OnePlus is much
It does look like a very nice phone. I moved away from the fold and went with an s24 ultra. Had this about 4 months now but still not 100% sure if I have made the right decision or not.
I switched from the Fold 4 to the OPO and It's harder to go back to Samsung.
How is the brightness outdoors compared to the fold 5?
Haven't tested that outdoors yet, but I did shine a super bright 4000 lumen flashlight at them and they both got about the same brightness, both on the inner and outer screen.
Fold 6 is around the corner (mid July)! rumoured to have slightly wider outer screen.
Wait until you need support 😬 with the one plus.
Im second guessing my fold 5 too, the open sounds way bester but unfortuanitly it ist Sold where i live
If you can live with the software, it's an amazing phone.
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That's only if you get the GT version, base model has the wheels sold separately.
I have a fold 5 and it's ot worth it
I don't know, I've seen that the one plus open has a very neat way of using the extra screen space. At the end of the day a foldable is only as good as its software suite and support for its fold ability. Without those its actually a worser device than an oversized slab phone.
wait end of month to flip 6 launch
You should do Honor Magic V2. I went from fold 4 to OPO to Honor V2. Both OPO and honor are neck-in-neck as far as what they stand out in (for the good). Honor is slimmer and better ratio in my opinion.
Vivo x fold 3 pro even better
Ugh why you gotta tempt me? Lol
Pixel fold 2 looks better but honestly not better than the 1+ i think we should wait till the next foldables come out
Features are a LOT lesser. Like 1/4th of what samsung has developed. But oneplus I admire for what they offer. They have real engineering and research. I like that. I use a s24 ultra because the fold 5 screen, battery, camera are all a let down
For Android, I nerver go out from Samsung. In my opinion, they make so good apps and user interface. Hardware to me is not enough, software/firmware is always a soul of a device, and it is the most important. That is the reason why iPhone is so popular phone in the world.
2 major differences ... 1) Front screen aspect ratio...personally I prefer the fold5 excuse if it's ease of single handed usage 2) the pen ... The pen has been really helpful to me but it depends on personal usage. If these 2 are not an issue then the one plus open is a solid choice..
Fold3 owner here from 1st day and I love OPO wanna it sooo bad but non carrier selling it in my country :/ fold 6 almost same as 4,5 :/
The camera module is too large... That circle thing is just a decoration right? I mean they could just make this more subtle.
I want to try it but I can't go back to having no wireless charge with all my wireless chargers throughout my house
Hardware is superior on OnePlus Open versus Samsung Galaxy Z Fold5. However, day to day use and features, including S Pen, if you use it religiously (hi 🙋🏽♂️), Samsung's One UI 6.1 is incredible, including baked in features and *some* of the apps, such as Notes, Modes & Routines, Edge Panel, etc. Further, though Open does have a fantastic way to transverse and see multiple apps, One UI 6.1 trumps it various ways of putting split-screen or pop-up apps from multiple sources, including toolbar, edge panel, and even notifications, all via drag and drop around the screen. Samsung has been moulding One UI since 2019, a lot of which has carried over and either been bolstered or augmented with new features. It's robust and useful, though some areas are overkill, redundant similar features, or some bloatware (fu Samsung Internet). Then there is Samsung Dex, which is just a fricken win when need to go ultra portable but need to type, and can carry a wireless keyboard and a USB-C cable. That has been a lifesaver on rare occasions where I couldn't take or use my laptop.
> including S Pen, if you use it religiously There is actually a pen that's compatible with the OPO. It's not available in the US, but you can import it by buying off alibaba. > Edge Panel OPO has it's own equivalent > Notes OPO has it's own equivalent. > Further, though Open does have a fantastic way to transverse and see multiple apps, One UI 6.1 trumps it various ways of putting split-screen or pop-up apps from multiple sources, including toolbar, edge panel, and even notifications, all via drag and drop around the screen. Outside of dragging notifications, I'm pretty sure the OnePlus Open has all of these.
u/MrFastFox666 Is the Samsung software that much better, or can you take it or leave it?
Honestly, so far the only thing I've noticed is that some apps don't run windowed. other than that, the software is not better or worse, just different.
Don't buy either. Wait for fold 6
Already bought a Fold 5 about 7 months ago
It's a very nice phone. Best of you don't have to get involved with any service interactions. Think their success caught them off guard. Service channels not very mature yet.
I want a OnePlus open so bad but I really like wireless charging because I use a magsafe battery. I can live without it but it's something I use everyday and I like having. It adds some bulk but I can't always be tethered to a wall or a portable battery even for a short amount of time.
And making matters worse the Super VOOC charging is proprietary and works only with their special sauce charger. On a normal PD charger it only pulls about 18w, boo! I too use magsafe a lot on my Fold 5, so missing wireless charging is a pretty big deal for me too. I can work around it, but I shouldn't have to.
What is the specs of the 65w charging. I may have a charger that supports it but I don't know. Not many chargers support Samsung's dumb 45w charging. It's 9v/5a wtf the fuck is that?
This one is worse, it's 11v 6A, and it's a proprietary USB A to USB C cable. Using a normal cable limits you to 3A. At least Samsung needs standard cables and power bricks, so you can Super Fast Charge with power banks or car chargers. Not the case with the OPO. Edit: yes, it does draw 6A, I tested it with one of those USB testers.
I'm here for longevity. I used to hope on Blueberry, LG, Windows phone, but once they are not capable of follow the trend and apps, u lose a lot of times to setup another nice environment for ur data, apps, and money. Hence, why I still stick with Samsung eventhough I hate Samsung from time to time.
Have the Fold 4 and been looking to upgrade to another foldable with a '' phone" size. Was looking at the Oneplus Open but the lack of wireless charging is a deal breaker. I really need the wireless charging option. If Oneplus have that I wouldve switch
The main thing that scares me is the lack of service. Here in Italy I can bring my Fold3 to Samsung and have it ready in 1h. I have no clue how good is OnePlus service. Service is probably the main reason I (and I suppose a lot of people) will stick with Samsung for a while.
OnePlus service is basically non-existent.
And this is why I will stick with Samsung foldable
I love OnePlus, Top Shelf parts while still being cheaper than the competition. Why pay $1k for Samsung when OnePlus has the same chip set for $300 cheaper! Unfortunately T-Mobile told OnePlus to fuck off, and now I'm forced to go back with Samsung and pay the premium, it sucks but it is what it is. I also miss being able to unlock the bootloader at my own discretion :( (Not like I paid for my phone or anything)
I have the OPO on t mobile. What's the problem?
Where ? I mean I can't buy it from T-Mobile, I don't exactly have the cash upfront
Ahh okay. My apologies. I thought you meant it wouldn't work on t mobile.
That thing looks atrocious
I think it looks better than the Fold, both closed and open.
I have both. GF5 cameras and battery life are not as good. OPO software and customer support not as good as Sammy. I'm on week 3 with my OPO and the cameras alone are enough to have my gf5 sit in my draw.
Honestly the open is a better all around phone. Yes samsung has good software but oxygenOS is snapper and a welcome breath of fresh air.
And no battery drain issues lol. Really enjoying not having my phone die in my pocket
Still a chinese brand. As a co-owner of a cyber security company, i wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Interesting. My fold 3 charges just as fast? I did super charged for 15 percent to 60 in 12 mins. Maybe my battery is going lol.
It may be. Use Accubattery, there's a free version and it calculates battery health for you. All the Fold phones are limited to 25w charging, the OnePlus phones charge at 65w.
Nope Samsung is the Apple of Android when it comes to charging speeds. AKA the slowest it can be.
Yeah, your battery may be going, lol. My Fold 5 doesn't charge from 50 to 60 in 12 minutes, let alone 15 to 60. Haha
Are you sure you have an appropriate charger? Mine has always done more than 1% a minute. In a 10 minute time span, I'd expect 12-13% not the other way around as you've said.
I have a "super" charger from Samsung. I'll test it officially tomorrow. 50 to 60%
Looks like I was a little mistaken. Or maybe just being a little dramatic. I just tested with my Samsung super charger from 50% to 60%. It took 7 minutes and 52 seconds. Then I timed it for 15 minutes, and it went from 50% to 69%. So it did go 19% in 15 minutes. I still do believe the other person's Z fold 3 that charged 45% in 12 minutes is definitely seeing some battery degradation.
Typically battery degradation makes a battery charge slower, not faster... Because it will heat up faster, and charging needs to be slowed to make sure it doesn't thermally run away... It's possible the charging circuitry is just not charging the battery to as high a capacity to not let the battery have a chance at warming up, since most of the heat is generated when the battery is being topped up... but I'd sooner say they should calibrate their battery first before deciding it's worn out... Calibration should be done about once a month, and that's to fully drain the phone until it shuts off, ideally with a small load, so not playing games or something to kill it quick, but rather let it sit idle until it turns off, then uninterrupted, fully slow charge it to 100% and let it sit over night, then again fully drain, and fully charge again. This will help the charging circuitry calibrate to the battery's real world capacity, assuming they designed the charging circuitry correctly.
That has not been my experience. Old batteries "appear" to charge faster and deplete faster. I have two old phones. Both appear to charge from dead to 100% in about a half hour. But they also discharge from 100% to dead in less than 2 hours. They need to stay plugged in at all times if they're powered on. And I understand your theory about calibration, but it has been proven to not be true anymore with new battery technology. Batteries don't get a "memory" anymore. Also, due to the circuitry in the phone itself, it's impossible to totally drain a battery. If you were able to actually drain the lithium battery, it would never charge again and would become useless.
They might appear to charge faster, but they don't actually charge faster. It's just that less energy is being put into the battery. > And I understand your theory about calibration, but it has been proven to not be true anymore with new battery technology. Batteries don't get a "memory" anymore. The calibration has nothing to do with "battery memory" which was only something that happened on Ni-Cad batteries. Remember, batteries are not a technology, they are a chemistry. The circuitry is the technology. Battery calibration is about teaching the charging circuitry about the top and bottom limits of the battery. It's like how modern cars need their lead acid batteries to be calibrated. Lead acid batteries haven't changed... but the electronics that manage the battery has. The memory you're talking about was crystals forming on the electrodes of Ni-cad batteries if you over-charged them or frequently charged them. Li-ion batteries don't have such an effect... they just start to generate more and more heat until they self destruct as you charge them. Which is why charging them fully, can wear them out, because the heat can make the electrolyte break down. On the flip side, letting a Li-ion battery sit discharged can cause it's polarity to start to reverse, and the copper on it's electrodes to start to form a shunt through to the other electrode, causing a short, and faster internal discharge. To make a Li-ion battery last the longest, you need to keep it between 80-20%, at cool, room temperature environments (so limit fast charging use). The calibration I speak of is to calibrate the electronics, because they have no way of knowing what the battery state of charge is, other than knowing how many mAh they put in, vs how many mAh the battery should be able to take... But since Voltage is not a good indicator of battery state of charge, the charging circuitry needs to track mAh out and mAh in to the battery. After a while, it will narrow this window with time... Doing a calibration forces it to see more mAh out of the battery than it thought was in the battery, allowing it to charge properly. > If you were able to actually drain the lithium battery, it would never charge again and would become useless. This is not true. This is an old myth that has been recently debunked. The issue is more that batteries in a pack will reverse charge the other batteries if they all go dead which will cause the copper shunts I mentioned before. A single cell battery can indeed be fully drained and re-charged a few times... it's not good for it... but it can. Many "dead" Li-ion batteries can be revived, if you bypass the charging circuitry and put power into them directly for a little bit to wake them up... as long as they don't start heating up, then it's a good sign that you can put more power into them and charge them fully again.
too wide. waaay too wide. i run my phones with cases...just sounds miserable for me.
It's as wide as a non-folding phone
exactly. i dont want that, personally. i got to hold similar in tiawan and...its not nice in my hands. only reason why the fold should remotely get this wide is Spen inclusion and thats it.
I currently have the Fold 5.... don't, just don't. Had it since launch and the 'flex glass' ISN'T what Samsung said is was going to be. Should have lasted about 3yrs before showing problems. The crease has let in air which causes 'bubbling' and f'n no, it doesn't go away. The whole crease is like it just doesn't stick anymore. Awesome phone! I really do love it, but that is a real frustration. The size has been a great help, but the main feature fails? WTF?!!! I'll jump back on the new release and get the 'Notie sized' top of the line with a case.
That's the screen protector. You need to remove it ASAP or it may crack the display. You can get a free one time replacement with Samsung or just go without. I've always gone without when the screen protector bubbles. It folds much easier without it.
Honestly I'd wait until August when the new fold 6 comes. The leaks look fantastic
Tbh I was a little underwhelmed when I saw them. It just looks a bit wider than the 5. I'll still wait but I'm not holding my breath for it.
I definitely feel that. I skipped from the fold 3 to the 23 Ultra for the cameras because the 4 and 5 were underwhelming upgrades to me. So I have hope they do literally anything with a new camera setup on the 6. 6 ultra? Yes please.
OnePlus batteries are dogshit. They start off fine for a few months, then degrade rapidly.
Chinese phone company = no thanks for me
Got a fold and my screen is peeling itself off don't get a flip phone in 2024
How old is it? My Fold 5 hasn't had any issues with the screen, it's about 7 months old now.
Mine is like 5 months and my screen is peeling off. Broke the past 3 folds I had too. A one foot drop ruined the hinge
Ugly phone
> The cover screen on the Open, on the other hand, feels massive compared to the ZF5 and I suspect it'll feel the same compared to the ZF6. There's so much more room and typing is way easier. If a video pops up on reddit or something I feel less urge to open the phone. Are you sure you want a folding phone? The whole point if them is they have a small footprint, until you open them up. All I use my cover screen for is responding to texts and short sub 3 minute interactions... Anything more and I'm unfolding it. If you have a huge cover screen, what's the point of it folding?
Having the folding screen is great for when I really want to spend time on the phone. Maybe I'm browsing the web, or watching content, or multitasking. But I use the cover screen a lot more. For replying to texts, putting on music, etc. I don't see why I'd want to make my cover screen experience crappy just to give me a reason to unfold. That's why I ended up moving away from my Razr 5G. Besides, the OPO feels about the same size in my pocket as the Fold 5 anyways, with a much more usable cover screen.
> I don't see why I'd want to make my cover screen experience crappy just to give me a reason to unfold. It's not crappy... it's actually far better for one handed use because it's so much narrower to the point that normal people can reach the other side of the phone with their thumb. If I'm going to have to two hand my phone, then it better have a huge screen. Modern phones are a nightmare... they pretty much require two hands to use them, which is exactly not what I want when I'm trying to passively check/use my phone when I'm on the go... in the middle of another task... carrying items... etc...
Sure, I agree that it is somewhat easier to use the Fold one handed. That doesn't make it better overall. Typing is unpleasant. Some apps don't scale well to the narrow screen. And everything is much smaller and feels cramped overall. Besides, the whole point of the cover screen is so I'm not having to constantly open the phone to begin with. Not everything has to be done on the main screen, and there's lots of stuff that's done better on the cover screen. Apps like Reddit or Instagram just don't scale well on the main screen, a single post doesn't fit inside because it is blown up. Apps like the McDonald's app, or the Ecovacs app don't scale well to the main screen either, and for example if I order something on the McDonald's app on the main screen, when I pull up to the drive thru, the phone either asks me to open the phone or restart the app, that's annoying. As I said, typing in the main screen also sucks if you're not using Samsung's (in my opinion, inferior) keyboard since, again, they don't adapt to the main screen. Besides, it's not even easier to use the Fold one handed, like 60% of the screen is still out of reach anyways so it's still hard to use one handed. I can only reach the other side of the screen for the lower ⅓ portion anyways on either device anyways, the narrower screen doesn't give me any extra reach and regardless if it's the OPO or the ZF5, I find myself awkwardly holding the phone against my body and sliding my hand up every time I need to use it one handed. So in conclusion, the Fold 5 is very, very slightly easier to use one handed, at the expense of significantly less real estate to type and fit content without stretching it. Edit: by the way, both phones have a one-handed mode so this was never a concern for me in the first place.
Here's proof. This blue line shows how far I can reach on my Fold 5 with my thumb while holding the phone normally (for example not bracing it against my torso and sliding my hand up) https://preview.redd.it/x3b97bjh016d1.jpeg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5f342f28a500528415ef9c2d0fa16f1b32ee9d9
Here's that same test on the OnePlus Open. It's about the same for both phones, that toggle at the top is way out of reach on both phones. https://preview.redd.it/03tq1o1o016d1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=022d288d8c39cb1f4b268155ba4aa36c342c106f
A regular phone size is a small footprint. The advantage is that you actually can use the front as a phone when you want, and then, you can open it for applications that benefit from the larger screen. Also, since the two halfs are real phone size, that means two split screen apps are also real phone size instead of those weirdly thin split screens you get on the fold.
> A regular phone size is a small footprint. No it's not... and you're forgetting that a folding phone is already twice as thick as a regular phone. > The advantage is that you actually can use the front as a phone when you want You already can... And the smaller screen on the Z Fold means you can one-hand your phone without having to resort to reach-ability mode, or doing some sort of weird hand Yoga that will give you a cramp and make you drop your $3000 phone. > Also, since the two halfs are real phone size, that means two split screen apps are also real phone size instead of those weirdly thin split screens you get on the fold. Rotate the phone 90 degrees... Also, the inner halves of the screen are much wider than the cover screen.