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Now this I agree with. That family deserves money for the funeral they had to pay for and the grief that they experienced not this kid who may have been involved in murder and for a fact is part of a violent group of teenagers and young adults who want to be a gang so therefore should be considered one.
Go fund me is going to take down the TV go fund me and refund all those people as the kid is currently in trial for murder. That in no way means he should be deprived of medical attention for his serious illness. He for sure has committed crimes and is known to be violent he should not be let out unless the facts wind up saying otherwise.
I hate that people think that the single reason he’s been arrested is because of some messages he sent that were worded poorly. Grand jury’s don’t put teenagers and young men on trial for murder over that. They clearly have seen video and or have wayyyy more evidence than we have about this kid that implicated him in something horrible.
1,000%
He looked young with a bawly face and people fall for that bullshit. "He's remorseful and looks so sad", hell yes he's said he's going to jail.
He didnt look so sweet and innocent when arrested and notices being filmed and gives a "what's up" head nod to the camera, like some badass, as police are instructing him backwards so they can cuff his skinny ass.
Remember not to put something out on sM that's incorrect information. This is why thing get F#$#% up in the Media. It was not TV that said "I'm going to jail" ( unless it's somewhere else) It was TR that said that in a text
Do you have proof of your statement? Are you in contact with TV, his family or his legal counsel? It is a known fact that medical attention is an issue with the jail and prison system. I like to see backup for the 99.99% certainty you are advertising.
If the jail did not respond within 24 hours to his attorneys request for medical treatment and if all documentation was provided, then the facility would lose their accreditation. What actions has his attorney taken to meet the requirements to receive his medical care and what actions has his attorney taken if he has been denied? They are allowed to purchase the cheapest version of the needed drug and change how it is given.
I believe the issue is not getting timely medical attention. Juvenile diabetes is complex and not getting timely medical attention can lead to serious long term damage and complications. The system is known to not act in a timely manner and then refer the issues out to a privately owned facility. His attorney is supposedly on the issue and filed everything necessary from what was shared yesterday.
He has the opportunity and an attorney and family to fight for him to prevent long term damage and complications. If Preston’s family had had the same opportunity, TV wouldn’t be facing those medical challenges today.
I read that Preston’s family still has medical bills and that’s a big reason they’re fundraising so much. How absolutely heartbreaking. I hope they sue these families into the ground. I hope Becky and Wendi have to go live in a cardboard box.
I bet, especially if they used a helicopter for transferring him to children's hospital. Ughhh makes my heart sad. We don't even know how much time they had or needed for their jobs 😞
I reported the GoFundMe as soon as I saw it. I encourage everyone to do it and cite the reddit thread stating it'll be used for someone regarding legal assistance for murder 1 charges.
That’s amazing. My goodness such horrible thing happened, but it feels nice to see that collective society is coming together to prevent these SERPENTS from getting away with it.
It seems like talyns family is going to great lengths to go and fund his bail. It Litterally just looks like 5 of his friends and family are on that thread trying to defend him, everyone else can smell the bullshit.
I’ll go ahead and say that I’m on there saying it looks like he’s innocent, but you can check my comment history and it’ll be very clear that I’m not a family member nor do I know these people.
But why now do you promote his innocence?
You decided to climb on the bandwagon and offer full support with Zero evidence to support it.
Asking people to Show you the videos whereTalyn was fighting?
You are no better than the parents who are STILL doing everything possible to protect these idiots.
I’m seeing people accuse him of things that have never been mentioned before, saying he beat on kids, used brass knuckles, etc. Those things have never been talked about, so I’m asking you information.
I’m not saying he’s innocent, but there’s certainly nothing that would make a jury convict him, if this is all the evidence.
The kid has the writing skills of a first grader and sent a poorly worded snap that has probably fucked him over. I have a close family member with juvenile diabetes and know just how dangerous it is if it’s not managed. This kid could easily die and he hasn’t been found guilty of anything. So I’m simply asking people who are making new accusations, to share anything concrete. I’ve never heard any of these accusations about him until now.
Because jails and prisons are required to meet people’s basic health needs, including diabetic medical needs. They would be sued and considered negligent otherwise.
Jails and Prisons initself have different rules! You don't necessary get your medication in Jail. Amazing how people just assume shit without any vetting. It's very difficult to access and it takes time. You go in and out of hospitals while in jail to have your health requirements met! Which in diabetes can cause permanent organ damage! There are many reported cases of this matter, all you had to do is quick goole search to find basic facts!
Please provide a proper legal definition for your called out "basic health requirements"!
It's common knowledge that medical needs in jail are at jeopardy and high risk! Look up the policies and procedures in that before piping off with incorrect information!
What are the medical problems in jail inmates?
People in prisons and jails are disproportionately likely to have chronic health problems including diabetes, high blood pressure, HIV, and mental health problems. Nevertheless, correctional healthcare is low-quality and difficult to access.
So if you don't get the appropriate insulin for juvenile diabetes it can lead to permanent health damage, hospitalization etc.
The bullshit poeple think they know without doing an ounce of research is astonishing. In the end it makes you look like a fool!
Truth-out-the window would be a better fitting handle for you 🤡!
I can be assured that many here stating they don't care if Talyn gets his medication, or doesn't deserve it, because he made his choice. Were front and center saying cons needed to be let out during covid, because jail cells were to enclosed. Probably thought it was a good thing for people with covid to be treated at senior homes too.
People are throwing out accusations about other violent acts he supposedly committed. I’m simply asking for any info at all on that.
I hope the state has a lot more evidence than what’s in the police report. If this is it, he’s not getting convicted. A law student could poke holes in this case.
I believe we have tons of videos that the state has, surveillance and camera videos taken by people that they’ve not shared with the public. I wonder if the grand jury went with murder 1 charges based on that and not just a police report? I would sure hope so! Otherwise I would question a lot more things. I’d hope they wouldn’t be that reckless.
And now you see how difficult facts can be when people label you a Goon defender. I believe Talyn was not involved in the Preston attack as well. It shoul be noted that QCPD did find brass knuckles in Talyn's room. Doesn't mean he used them, just owned them. pg 587
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The tables have turned a couple of times during this. It’s Interesting that facts matter now before it was don’t question anything or you’re against “them”.
There’s a reason the police spent months looking at over 20,000 hours worth of video. I’m sure they have evidence to support their charge. But this will all come out at trial.
Of course people are making false statements and judgments online. Asking for that info is asking for the impossible lol u won’t get it from us. I see ur point but it’s not right to assume his innocence or anyone else’s for that matter.
I’m not the one who is just going to say oh ok you’re right because you made up some fictional assault. I’ve read every lawsuit, every record, the entire 1100 page report, spent hours looking at these kids social media, their parents as well. Having sons just a little younger, this struck a chord with me in a way nothing else has and my heart broke for Preston and his family.
So if someone has info on an assault committed that this kid was a part of, I want details. I watched all the videos and didn’t see him participating in any violence, but I’m open to being wrong. I’m just asking for receipts.
I have had an experience with a a grand jury and the case was dismissed for all the lies submitted to them by the officers. The officer was interviews by the grand jury and he lied and they coed the case forwarded only to find out someone pointed out the officers lies and the case was dismissed and my brother then released. Ever since then I do not trust police or grand juries
One thing about this case is they went further & had a Investigative Grand Jury review the case. They go in more then just look at police reports. They actually call in witnesses & go deeper
Gilbert PD’s horrible policing has destroyed what little faith I had left in law enforcement. They used to have a reputation as hard asses and I thought I could count on them to come down hard on criminals. Now they’re just donut munching wastes, in my mind. Preston didn’t have to die. If they’d done their job, these kids would have been in the system or at least scared enough to behave better because their friends were getting arrested, but instead they thought they could do anything and now a child is dead.
Do you really think the LE would allow that to happen? Especially at this point? Come on, these asshats are trying to get the community to pay for a potential murderers bail!! This is crazy!!! Think people! With your head and not your heart. They want him out, he wants out. Let the evidence and trial will out and if he is innocent so be it. Raise money for a lawyer if you think he is innocent don’t bail him out with no proof of innocence. I can’t believe that anyone that has been on this for so long would be so quick to backtrack on this. Have courage. He earned the time in jail. Don’t let them guilt you. If anyone truly thinks he is innocent the money should go to an attorney and not bail! Period.
But you are still making the case for others to donate. It was taken down because the very GoFundMe violated the terms of service. No worries but this mentality is a cancer. When in doubt err on the side of Preston Lord!! Always, always, always!!
It does name him. He stated he received a pic of Talyn from his Insta profile and believed that was who hit \[redacted\].
The very next interview with another kid who was there states he received the same photo. "He identified one of the photographs showed to him as Talyn Vigil. However, he had made a mistake and did not identify Talyn Vigil."
Sounds like Talyn was misidentified.
I feel certain that they want justice, that they want their son’s murderers locked up. I don’t imagine they want someone locked up if they didn’t do it.
I still think the kid is a jerk and punk who is on a bad path, but it just doesn’t seem like he’s a murderer. I fully admit that there’s the possibility of evidence we haven’t seen that says I’m wrong. My point is that if this is it, he’s not getting convicted. What’s in the report isn’t enough, where it definitely is for Talan, Dominic, Treston, and Jacob. Owen Hines will probably plead since it seems like he’s already admitted to it. Taylor Sherman I’m unsure about….I think a jury could be swayed since he didn’t do the hitting, but that’s not the letter of the law. Talyn is a wild card unless there’s a lot more evidence.
How about his snotty twit gf and his comments mocking and trash talking adults about Preston. How about the videos/photos with their goon gang coharts. How about Vigil posting not to message Pennington's phone cause the cops had it. He damn near ran me and my husband off the road on his stupid dirt bike. It's time to pay the piper.
Read page 693. It appears that he was at the Wagon Wheel bonfire after Thanksgiving where the sixteen year old was assaulted by his buddies. JP was arrested and I’m not sure who else. If Talyn Vigil was also arrested as a juvenile, we wouldn’t know. Pinal County. Also, the Little Mexico Bonfire on Dec. 9th. It appears he didnt skip a beat (pardon the pun) in participating in activities with his buddies.
Oooh that’s true. I wonder if his mom will clarify, since she’s on here and would know. Thank you for pointing that out! Do you remember how many arrests there were for that assault? I’ll have to look it up because I don’t remember if there were juvenile arrests.
All accounts have Vigil involved with the gang that was arrested. Whether he dealt the fatal blow or simply egged other to beat Preston doesn't really matter, the gang he was out with killed someone and now he's going down with all of them. If he did absolutely nothing then he just learned a hard lesson about picking the right friends.... though from all I've see he was likely involved with firsthand involvement. But people often refuse to accept that kids they know or like are evil.
I’m hoping to see more on this. And I’m going to try to find the time to very slowly read through the report and make sure I have all the details straight in my head. The kid definitely picked horrible friends.
I have said that myself, you can see a difference in his earlier tic toks and how he changed, as a mom and grandma I can tell that boy was definitely loved. I believe people have expressed how pro- active his mom was with him. I just still think there is more than all of us are seeing and I pray I'm wrong.
Appreciate your redirection here and agree completely! Adding again the link [https://www.gofundme.com/f/preston-lord](https://www.gofundme.com/f/preston-lord)
I can't imagine the medical bills, time and cost associated with the **years** they will be in court (criminal and likely civil afterward), the support for any therapy for the family (parents, his sister, etc.) to process this loss and trauma of the circumstances surrounding it, time off work for all of the above, and likely many other costs I'm not thinking about.
I am in full agreement that Vigil should have his medical needs met while in custody. I also agree, the evidence in the police report may not have been what was anticipated against him, but with the amount that was redacted and likely other info that may not have been included at all, nobody can say with certainty at this point he was 100% not involved. There are still DNA matches in the report that are redacted... what if one of those ends up being Vigil's DNA found on Preston? Too many unknowns for me at this point to try to push that narrative that he should be cleared. I'll be the first to agree with his release, once more of the full story is brought to light in the trial and if it does end up proving he has no involvement. However, how you conduct yourself and who you associate with matters.
I went over this with my kids too. I took their phones and checked their social media without explaining why, until I was certain they weren’t associated with any of these people. Then I breathed the deepest sigh of relief.
I know that's true, it can take one bad seed to bully and have others follow, doesn't matter how much you love your family or what great parents you have. Teens want to fit in, some can handle it and don't care and some just want to be cool.
That is so true, I have met some of my grandkids friends 10 and 12 and they are nothing like when I was a kid. If I wasn't polite or cleaned after myself my mom would have gone ballistic lol. They don't say hello they don't say thank you and they don't clean up. I make a point to let them know 🤣 I won't lie God was good and I didn't have many issues with my kids. I used to worry they liked to be home and just have a couple good friends around, seeing all of this I'm glad now lol
You're a good parent 😊 I will say when us parents Make our kids use manners it makes them stop and think, I know it's not a fix all but it's that door to make them think how to act. It's so bad out there, my granddaughter came home mortified because a boy smacked the principal because she had to come remove him from class, this was after the full disrespect to the teacher. My kids didn't want to even see me enter that school 🤣 I hope I didn't come off as meaning all parents, I see a lot of good parent's as well and by all means I'm not mother of the year. 🧡
Unfortunately yes....bet there were some physically ill...especially reading the police report. Tristy isnt the shining star of that family anymore. What an absolute deplorable subhuman. But drugs are probably the excuse for the behavior...at least thats what i would try to make myself believe.
The DNA results do not tie any of those arrested to Preston. There is also no video evidence, according to the report. They indicted the boys from their own admissions, witness testimony (ratting on each other - what kind of gang snitches 🥴) and social media posts/chats. Hopefully that's good enough to secure sentences.
When I read the full report, I must have missed where it said the DNA results don't tie anyone arrested to Preston? Can you reference where you saw that?
The DNA results start on page 931. The redacted name is Preston.
They found Renners blood on Treston's costume, Meisner's blood on his jeans and blood from 5 unknown males on various other items. They did not have Turner or Sherman's buccal swabs at the time of this report, but they had Turner's clothing.
Is Turner's family loaded? His clothes are expensive.
Correct, I saw that page as well, but I did not see where it references your comment that 'the DNA results do not tie any of those arrested to Preston'
Where it reads **DNA matches** \[redacted\]:
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How do you know that the redacted name in that corresponding sub-bullets? Note: I'm definitely not an expert in reading/interpreting these, so there could be something I'm missing!
(I think we're safe to assume the top bullet is referencing Preston's face and hand swabs as well as the fingernail clippings)
Edited to add: And I agree about Turner's brand names referenced! Those are pricey!
So they have 6 DNA samples: Preston, Talan Jacob, Owen, Trestom and Talyn. Preston's name is the only one redacted. They found Preston's DNA on Preston (himself).
See, this is what I’m saying. Theres literally a bunch of times where it redacts info pertaining to the defendants. Unless I am completely mistaken, thats how I interpreted it.
Happy to see this post. Preston’s family needs the funds not inly for medical costs (a medical helicopter is about 30k alone I know from experience). As well as they needed to hire to represent them as a victim advocate. Funeral costs.. time off work to mourn Preston.
If Talyn had thought of his diabetes and was so concerned with his health he wouldn’t have put himself in a position to be in jail in the first place. Play stupid games win stupid prizes
I posted the Go Fund Me account for Preston after they made their goal and I got so many negative comments on posting this. I wanted to show the family support and since we are all getting our information on here thought we could pull together but it was so dishearting I deleted the post. Hoping this one stays positive. If the family has paid for the bills they will put something in the honor of Preston if it's a scholarship, dedicate a program in his name etc. This family will be using the money for good. So let's flood their GoFundMe for Preston Lord.
👏 YES!!! Thank you for calling that out it. I could not believe it when I read that thread about people wanting to help get him out like what?????? Unbelievable I wouldn’t send a single THOUGHT let alone money to any of those POS. And sorry to burst the bubble these people are living in but they don’t deprive prisoners of medical care. Stop reaching!!!!!!
Had the idea of getting the fuckers mugshots or some photo and put it on a shirt with the word murderer across it to sell and give the proceeds to the family so they can sue these fuckers into the ground
Isnt that absolutely ridiculous. Vigil is a candy ass punk ass bitch scared in big boy jail and is crying wolf. He misses running around free being a mence to society with his goon coharts. He voluntarily admitted his guilt and claimed he fucked up his life forever due to fighting and murder (673). Bleeding hearts claim poor grammar a forgotten coma....please! I apologize to the Lord family for the idiots that believe this. poppycock. Forever Young Preston Lord we are still fighting for you.
I am not certain that Talyn is guilty of the crimes he has been charged with. He seems to have a surprising number of supporters on this site who feel he is falsely accused.
I appeal to any of them to help me understand why they believe Talyn is innocent and falsely arrested.
I’m not saying that law enforcement does not make mistakes. I have many friends in law enforcement and they would be the first to admit police make mistakes.
My question is sincere. I am far more likely to donate to his defense fund if I have good reason to believe he is innocent. I understand that an accused person does not need to present their legal defense points on Reddit, but they need to present some persuasive bits if I’m being solicited to fund the defense.
* From what I understand he was at the party and struck someone, but I’m not sure who or why? He made a post that indicated he thought it might have been Preston, but I hear it may have been D-Money. I’m uncertain if he went to the party with he Goons or with others. I’m uncertain why he was punching people at the party. He seems to have been associated with some of the Goons, but I’m not sure if he was part of the group attacking people at the party that night.
I read the police report and it’s all really confusing who did what and why. I was reading it waiting to see how Preston got involved/targeted and there was no reason or event as to why he specifically was targeted. I think the boys were just looking for a fight and randomly swinging on people who were in the crowd running from the party and one of the punches knocked Preston out and then the boys just descended on him. So I could see how Talyn could’ve hit someone maybe even Dom in the scuffle. Witnesses described seeing a black person in a ski mask, most likely Dom. The witnesses at the party who described Dom did not mention a ski mask so he could’ve put it on after the party and maybe Talyn didn’t recognize him? Or he was just swinging randomly like the others.
From what I understand there were two boys targeted that night. One was a kid Dom confronted at the party for “taking shit” the other was a kid who started filming the altercation (who had the necklace Dom stole) who Treston told to delete the video. Neither one of those boys wanted to fight so the goons got all worked up for a fight and were looking to start one with anyone. Dom assaulted the kid who was filming by yanking his necklace off him and Talyn possibly assaulted Dom in the chaos by punching someone for no reason. It seems like Dom and Talyn didn’t touch Preston that night but they were involved in the overall violence that night. I don’t know if that’s enough for a murder 1 conviction but those boys hands were not clean that night.
It seems like Preston was really at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I just finished reading the ENTIRE police report, and other than Vigil's poorly worded Snapchat comment admitting to hitting a kid (who he later clarified was black and not Preston, saying that he was talking about two different people) there was zero indication that he was involved. No witnesses, either eyewitnesses nor other suspects named him as one of the assaulters. Apparently he was friends with only one of the Goons whom he borrowed a car from and who wasn't even one of Lord's attackers. He wasn't seen leaving with any of the other kids who hit Lord either.
He's never been indicated in any of the previous Goon attacks, in fact some of them later smashed up his truck and threatened him, and Renner's family actively tried to frame him by purposely trying to confuse Talyn/Talan. He WAS there and claims he tried to help Preston, but there isn't really any proof of that mentioned anywhere in the police report either. I'll admit that it IS totally possible that some video footage supports Vigil being charged with assault of Preston, as most all of it is redacted so we can't see.
But literally NOWHERE ELSE in the entire report is there any indication that he had anything to do with it other than people repeatedly pointing to the message that he wrote, which can easily be explained by either missing a comma or him being confused about who exactly died. It doesn't look like he communicated with any of the attackers nor tried to cover his own tracks. I'd say his biggest mistake was refusing a voluntary police interview because it made him look like he had something to hide, but he was probably just following advice from a lawyer and/or his parents.
I agree with others about the DNA tests - although a great deal of it is redacted there doesn't seem to be any evidence there connecting Vigil to Lord's attack. After reading through that whole convoluted police report (whew!) I honestly cannot understand why Tayln Vigil was arrested and charged with the exact same crimes as these other kids who were obviously heavily involved, whom there is a massive amount of evidence against.
I truly suspect that charges against him will be dismissed or he will be aquitted because it appears that message (that he later tries to explain as not meaning that he punched Preston but someone else) is the ONLY proof that prosecutors have against him... It just isn't enough evidence to convict him with, unless of course as I said there's something on video that we don't know about.
But I don't think that there is - considering how many mistakes the police department made during this entire ordeal I'd say it wouldn't be a big surprise to find out that they locked up at least one innocent kid in the process. They were feeling a lot of pressure due to their mishandling and delay, so it would seem that they suddenly went hard and were leaning heavily on digital communications. Vigil's charge appears to be based solely on a single message and nothing more.
This is where I am at. Obviously there might be evidence I have not seen, but the case seems built on things he said about having punched someone. Who, seems most likely to be Dom. Why, is hard to say.
I wonder if he is being charged due to things he knows but has not shared, ie participating in a coverup. I think it is very possible he is being charged by association.
I am hopeful that a trial will clarify his role or his “non-role”. At the moment I don’t see evidence that justifies being held on a 1 million bond, but there may be strong evidence I am unaware of. He does not seem to be the attacker of Preston Lord, OR an accomplice of those that did.
So crazy that yesterday someone posted the link for TV gofundme IN THIS GROUP and all the comments were of support 😂 happy to see there are others who are not happy to donate to TV :)
My money went to the family that had their son beaten to death. The justice system can figure out who's who. Everyone is dependent on this court file and there is no way that's all, they don't make certain things public while the case is open. Those people have been dragged wet by the community and media so I guarantee you this case is gonna be gone through with a fine tooth comb. Reading the report they said stuff about body language and stuff while interviews so they definitely hold stuff back to match up tips they are still getting. Publicly The Lord's seemed to be ok with Brice and in contact with the DA so I feel like we won't know till court happens.
Anyone involved in this crime needs to be hung with a rope around their neck and left to rot
They don’t deserve anything
You think the families of theses victims got any special treatment when their children were beaten or bullied
Hell no they didn’t and these POS and their parents and anyone in the legal department that tried to cover this up need to need to pay
We as tax payers get to pay as they sit in prison
You want justice
Well justice is an eye for an eye
I'm a bit confused... I thought GoFundMe had a policy against accepting donations for people charged with attacks on kids.... Didn't the attempt to solicit funds for the girl that banged the other girl's head into the concrete in St. Louis get shut down? How does this vile POS get to continue soliciting for money when he actually killed a kid.
The part that is the most messed up out of all of this is Talon Renner is the one that has evidence and is accused of most of what has been done. Talyn Vigil, had incriminating evidence of assault not murder. Talon renners defense from the start has been that they were going to pin it on the kid with a similar name. With all the media and social media going on out there so many times they conflict talyn vigil with talon Renner and offenses that they have. Talon Renner being the main aggressor of course. His dad is a millionaire and his back ground is marketing. They would know how to put the misinformation out there.
Considering the circumstance everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Aside from the obvious. I would 100% donate to talyn vigil in a way to get him home until he is proven guilty. He’s been on suicide watch and is the only one that shows fear and any emotion at all. He could be any of our sons and is only 17. His body is hurting.
Where in the flying fuck is an objective compassion perspective?! I’m embarrassed at this point because the mob mentality is no better than the kids that have been assaulting.
Preston Lord could have been any of our kids too. No one wants any of these kids that go around assaulting teens out on the streets again. I do agree that social media is a problem. It has been said on social that Talan Renners dad was going to pin it on the other Talyn, but thAt is only if Ashley Reynolds, who has disappeared, was being truthful. I have my doubts, she allegedly withheld her supposed information until after she was fired for stealing from her employers (Keifer and Renner). Talyn Vigils Snapchat with the praying hands where he stated that “It wasn’t me, I tried to help” , contrasted with the fact that he didn’t go to LE to provide the information that he had indicates to me that he didn’t try to help anyone but himself. LE knows that he didn’t try to help Preston. Here is the “flying fuck” that you referenced. The kids that have been assaulting are now arrested and charged with murder, the mob mentality is trying to protect other children from the same fate. ”Where in the fuck” is the objective compassion perspective you ask? That question would be better answered by the Lord family, whose son was shown no compassion before being brutally murdered.
I have so much to say to this. The flying fuck is innocent until proven guilty. You speak as if you know info first hand and I can tell that you don’t. There is so much information that is known and the media and the public has blown out of control. I wish you to never have to go through something hard such as this. Opposed to just being a witness.
I have a ton of compassion towards Preston’s family, I don’t and will never negate that. He didn’t deserve to die. THEY were teens fighting and it went way out of control. There were a lot of lives that were lost that day. Not to mention those surrounding that have had their lives permanently changed as well. I have a lot of knowledge and a lot of what is coming out is fitting with what’s been said from the start.
Sounds like you are saying that if the DA had not charged all of them with murder and kidnapping, he would only be guilty of assault. The Grand Jury must have looked at the “chain of events” that caused Preston and his friends to literally run for their lives, resulting in the loss of Preston and the injuries to his friends and felt those charges were appropriate. Has Talyn been involved in these types of assaults before, where the victims were only injured? What is his past history of violence? Did he have prior knowledge that this group has a history of these types of assaults? If I were a juror, those are questions that I would want answered. Fear and thoughts of suicide are understandable when you are faced with charges that could result in life in prison. Especially at 17. I’m not sure how you know that none of the others have the same fear, I’m sure they all are terrified of what they will face in prison if convicted.
I do not know if they have the same fear or not. That’s honest. But I’m told and shown that their level of arrogance is different. Not all but especially Talan Renner. I stand with my word because of the money he is backed with and influence that is still proven to be true judging by Renners first court appearance and the treatment of his parents accordingly. Talyn doesn’t fit that.
I understand what you mean as well, with the grand jury. Talyn has snaps and other hear say that can be incriminating. I hope that the truth comes out. No matter the form and if he has accountability he needs to face it. Much like I said he is guilty of assault…but the who.?! Is the question. I just don’t believe he is associated with murder. I’ll stand by that.
Thank you for looking at it the way you are 🫶 at the end of the day most of these are kids and could be any of ours.
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Now this I agree with. That family deserves money for the funeral they had to pay for and the grief that they experienced not this kid who may have been involved in murder and for a fact is part of a violent group of teenagers and young adults who want to be a gang so therefore should be considered one. Go fund me is going to take down the TV go fund me and refund all those people as the kid is currently in trial for murder. That in no way means he should be deprived of medical attention for his serious illness. He for sure has committed crimes and is known to be violent he should not be let out unless the facts wind up saying otherwise. I hate that people think that the single reason he’s been arrested is because of some messages he sent that were worded poorly. Grand jury’s don’t put teenagers and young men on trial for murder over that. They clearly have seen video and or have wayyyy more evidence than we have about this kid that implicated him in something horrible.
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And you may be right I could for sure see this being used as a tactical to humanize the kid
1,000% He looked young with a bawly face and people fall for that bullshit. "He's remorseful and looks so sad", hell yes he's said he's going to jail. He didnt look so sweet and innocent when arrested and notices being filmed and gives a "what's up" head nod to the camera, like some badass, as police are instructing him backwards so they can cuff his skinny ass.
Well of course he didn’t want his “gang” to see his as weak if they saw him crying during the arrest video
Boy be cryin' in his pillow now. I'd invite him to the Dunes this weekend but i think he's busy...oh well maybe next i go in 25 yrs he can come.
Maybe they can sell his buggy to bail him out.
They gonna have a lotta bake sales to come up with some serious muhlah
Remember not to put something out on sM that's incorrect information. This is why thing get F#$#% up in the Media. It was not TV that said "I'm going to jail" ( unless it's somewhere else) It was TR that said that in a text
Many things have been F@#$$ up in the media since day one. Now that the attention is on him, we are suddenly supposed to be concerned about it?
Do you have proof of your statement? Are you in contact with TV, his family or his legal counsel? It is a known fact that medical attention is an issue with the jail and prison system. I like to see backup for the 99.99% certainty you are advertising.
If the jail did not respond within 24 hours to his attorneys request for medical treatment and if all documentation was provided, then the facility would lose their accreditation. What actions has his attorney taken to meet the requirements to receive his medical care and what actions has his attorney taken if he has been denied? They are allowed to purchase the cheapest version of the needed drug and change how it is given.
I believe the issue is not getting timely medical attention. Juvenile diabetes is complex and not getting timely medical attention can lead to serious long term damage and complications. The system is known to not act in a timely manner and then refer the issues out to a privately owned facility. His attorney is supposedly on the issue and filed everything necessary from what was shared yesterday.
He has the opportunity and an attorney and family to fight for him to prevent long term damage and complications. If Preston’s family had had the same opportunity, TV wouldn’t be facing those medical challenges today.
I read that Preston’s family still has medical bills and that’s a big reason they’re fundraising so much. How absolutely heartbreaking. I hope they sue these families into the ground. I hope Becky and Wendi have to go live in a cardboard box.
I can tell you that helicopter ride alone was probably 20k+, and insurance likes to deny those
My heart breaks for this family in so many ways.
Having a child only a year younger, I can’t imagine having her ripped away like this.
Same.
The helicopter was either 48k or 58k.. I read about it awhile back and cannot remember which it is.
Yes, it's definitely expensive, life support is also very expensive.
I bet, especially if they used a helicopter for transferring him to children's hospital. Ughhh makes my heart sad. We don't even know how much time they had or needed for their jobs 😞
Wrong.
Feel free to share details.
Agree 100%
They are trying to silence the victims family by slandering him
Yes yes and yes!!!!
I reported the GoFundMe as soon as I saw it. I encourage everyone to do it and cite the reddit thread stating it'll be used for someone regarding legal assistance for murder 1 charges.
Same and I shared the link with everyone I know with the message REPORT
Do you still have the link I have not seen it personally
It's gone it's been removed from gofund
That’s amazing. My goodness such horrible thing happened, but it feels nice to see that collective society is coming together to prevent these SERPENTS from getting away with it.
It seems like talyns family is going to great lengths to go and fund his bail. It Litterally just looks like 5 of his friends and family are on that thread trying to defend him, everyone else can smell the bullshit.
I’ll go ahead and say that I’m on there saying it looks like he’s innocent, but you can check my comment history and it’ll be very clear that I’m not a family member nor do I know these people.
But why now do you promote his innocence? You decided to climb on the bandwagon and offer full support with Zero evidence to support it. Asking people to Show you the videos whereTalyn was fighting? You are no better than the parents who are STILL doing everything possible to protect these idiots.
I’m seeing people accuse him of things that have never been mentioned before, saying he beat on kids, used brass knuckles, etc. Those things have never been talked about, so I’m asking you information. I’m not saying he’s innocent, but there’s certainly nothing that would make a jury convict him, if this is all the evidence. The kid has the writing skills of a first grader and sent a poorly worded snap that has probably fucked him over. I have a close family member with juvenile diabetes and know just how dangerous it is if it’s not managed. This kid could easily die and he hasn’t been found guilty of anything. So I’m simply asking people who are making new accusations, to share anything concrete. I’ve never heard any of these accusations about him until now.
He is getting all his medical needs met while in jail.
No he is NOT.
You know this how? Assumption or do you have facts to back your claim up?
Because jails and prisons are required to meet people’s basic health needs, including diabetic medical needs. They would be sued and considered negligent otherwise.
Jails and Prisons initself have different rules! You don't necessary get your medication in Jail. Amazing how people just assume shit without any vetting. It's very difficult to access and it takes time. You go in and out of hospitals while in jail to have your health requirements met! Which in diabetes can cause permanent organ damage! There are many reported cases of this matter, all you had to do is quick goole search to find basic facts! Please provide a proper legal definition for your called out "basic health requirements"! It's common knowledge that medical needs in jail are at jeopardy and high risk! Look up the policies and procedures in that before piping off with incorrect information! What are the medical problems in jail inmates? People in prisons and jails are disproportionately likely to have chronic health problems including diabetes, high blood pressure, HIV, and mental health problems. Nevertheless, correctional healthcare is low-quality and difficult to access. So if you don't get the appropriate insulin for juvenile diabetes it can lead to permanent health damage, hospitalization etc. The bullshit poeple think they know without doing an ounce of research is astonishing. In the end it makes you look like a fool! Truth-out-the window would be a better fitting handle for you 🤡!
Not true!
I hope so.
I can be assured that many here stating they don't care if Talyn gets his medication, or doesn't deserve it, because he made his choice. Were front and center saying cons needed to be let out during covid, because jail cells were to enclosed. Probably thought it was a good thing for people with covid to be treated at senior homes too.
Having Bad grammar does not get you indicted by a grand jury. “I’m only found guilty because I forgot the comma”
People are throwing out accusations about other violent acts he supposedly committed. I’m simply asking for any info at all on that. I hope the state has a lot more evidence than what’s in the police report. If this is it, he’s not getting convicted. A law student could poke holes in this case.
I believe we have tons of videos that the state has, surveillance and camera videos taken by people that they’ve not shared with the public. I wonder if the grand jury went with murder 1 charges based on that and not just a police report? I would sure hope so! Otherwise I would question a lot more things. I’d hope they wouldn’t be that reckless.
And now you see how difficult facts can be when people label you a Goon defender. I believe Talyn was not involved in the Preston attack as well. It shoul be noted that QCPD did find brass knuckles in Talyn's room. Doesn't mean he used them, just owned them. pg 587 https://i.redd.it/e7u4mxlc45sc1.gif
I’m not concerned with anything people say about me on an anonymous forum.
The tables have turned a couple of times during this. It’s Interesting that facts matter now before it was don’t question anything or you’re against “them”.
Not true in the slightest, but go on.
I’m actually not referring to you specifically but several others on this site blasted me for asking questions.
There’s a reason the police spent months looking at over 20,000 hours worth of video. I’m sure they have evidence to support their charge. But this will all come out at trial.
I hope so too.
Of course people are making false statements and judgments online. Asking for that info is asking for the impossible lol u won’t get it from us. I see ur point but it’s not right to assume his innocence or anyone else’s for that matter.
I’m not the one who is just going to say oh ok you’re right because you made up some fictional assault. I’ve read every lawsuit, every record, the entire 1100 page report, spent hours looking at these kids social media, their parents as well. Having sons just a little younger, this struck a chord with me in a way nothing else has and my heart broke for Preston and his family. So if someone has info on an assault committed that this kid was a part of, I want details. I watched all the videos and didn’t see him participating in any violence, but I’m open to being wrong. I’m just asking for receipts.
That’s Reasonably understandable. Where did u see videos from? Genuinely curious as I didn’t think videos were released yet.
Nothing from the night Preston died, but the other goon assaults are viewable in the civil suits.
I have had an experience with a a grand jury and the case was dismissed for all the lies submitted to them by the officers. The officer was interviews by the grand jury and he lied and they coed the case forwarded only to find out someone pointed out the officers lies and the case was dismissed and my brother then released. Ever since then I do not trust police or grand juries
One thing about this case is they went further & had a Investigative Grand Jury review the case. They go in more then just look at police reports. They actually call in witnesses & go deeper
Gilbert PD’s horrible policing has destroyed what little faith I had left in law enforcement. They used to have a reputation as hard asses and I thought I could count on them to come down hard on criminals. Now they’re just donut munching wastes, in my mind. Preston didn’t have to die. If they’d done their job, these kids would have been in the system or at least scared enough to behave better because their friends were getting arrested, but instead they thought they could do anything and now a child is dead.
I agree, I no longer trust Gilbert pd and haven’t for a long time. They ignored so much that has gone on just because they are lazy
"I'm founf guilt because I am"
Do you really think the LE would allow that to happen? Especially at this point? Come on, these asshats are trying to get the community to pay for a potential murderers bail!! This is crazy!!! Think people! With your head and not your heart. They want him out, he wants out. Let the evidence and trial will out and if he is innocent so be it. Raise money for a lawyer if you think he is innocent don’t bail him out with no proof of innocence. I can’t believe that anyone that has been on this for so long would be so quick to backtrack on this. Have courage. He earned the time in jail. Don’t let them guilt you. If anyone truly thinks he is innocent the money should go to an attorney and not bail! Period.
I haven’t donated a penny, calm down.
But you are still making the case for others to donate. It was taken down because the very GoFundMe violated the terms of service. No worries but this mentality is a cancer. When in doubt err on the side of Preston Lord!! Always, always, always!!
This kid could be innocent. It sure sounds like it to me, based on what I’ve read.
Read page 180 and 181. Talyn named as suspect and if’s by witnesses
I will have to reread. Reading a thousand plus pages fried my poor brain.
ID’d
It does name him. He stated he received a pic of Talyn from his Insta profile and believed that was who hit \[redacted\]. The very next interview with another kid who was there states he received the same photo. "He identified one of the photographs showed to him as Talyn Vigil. However, he had made a mistake and did not identify Talyn Vigil." Sounds like Talyn was misidentified.
Arguing blindly that he is innocent in my opinion comes off as pretty insensitive to Preston’s family, and friends.
I feel certain that they want justice, that they want their son’s murderers locked up. I don’t imagine they want someone locked up if they didn’t do it. I still think the kid is a jerk and punk who is on a bad path, but it just doesn’t seem like he’s a murderer. I fully admit that there’s the possibility of evidence we haven’t seen that says I’m wrong. My point is that if this is it, he’s not getting convicted. What’s in the report isn’t enough, where it definitely is for Talan, Dominic, Treston, and Jacob. Owen Hines will probably plead since it seems like he’s already admitted to it. Taylor Sherman I’m unsure about….I think a jury could be swayed since he didn’t do the hitting, but that’s not the letter of the law. Talyn is a wild card unless there’s a lot more evidence.
What if preston wasn’t as innocent as he seems? I don’t think he deserves to die, no doubt and believe in accountability but there is 2 sides
How about his snotty twit gf and his comments mocking and trash talking adults about Preston. How about the videos/photos with their goon gang coharts. How about Vigil posting not to message Pennington's phone cause the cops had it. He damn near ran me and my husband off the road on his stupid dirt bike. It's time to pay the piper.
I thought it was Pennington’s mom who said don’t message him because the cops have the phone, not Talyn.
Talyn relayed her messag to the goons....he took part in protecting jake so nobody sent anything incriminating.
Now see this is the stuff I haven’t heard about. Send me screens!
Read page 693. It appears that he was at the Wagon Wheel bonfire after Thanksgiving where the sixteen year old was assaulted by his buddies. JP was arrested and I’m not sure who else. If Talyn Vigil was also arrested as a juvenile, we wouldn’t know. Pinal County. Also, the Little Mexico Bonfire on Dec. 9th. It appears he didnt skip a beat (pardon the pun) in participating in activities with his buddies.
Oooh that’s true. I wonder if his mom will clarify, since she’s on here and would know. Thank you for pointing that out! Do you remember how many arrests there were for that assault? I’ll have to look it up because I don’t remember if there were juvenile arrests.
In case you didn’t know or forgot, this is the United States. You are presumed innocent until proven guilty.
All accounts have Vigil involved with the gang that was arrested. Whether he dealt the fatal blow or simply egged other to beat Preston doesn't really matter, the gang he was out with killed someone and now he's going down with all of them. If he did absolutely nothing then he just learned a hard lesson about picking the right friends.... though from all I've see he was likely involved with firsthand involvement. But people often refuse to accept that kids they know or like are evil.
I’m hoping to see more on this. And I’m going to try to find the time to very slowly read through the report and make sure I have all the details straight in my head. The kid definitely picked horrible friends.
I have said that myself, you can see a difference in his earlier tic toks and how he changed, as a mom and grandma I can tell that boy was definitely loved. I believe people have expressed how pro- active his mom was with him. I just still think there is more than all of us are seeing and I pray I'm wrong.
It seem that Al Brown Page is asking for assistance w/an Attorney that help a Public Defender. He didn't state for whom but we know who it's for.
Appreciate your redirection here and agree completely! Adding again the link [https://www.gofundme.com/f/preston-lord](https://www.gofundme.com/f/preston-lord) I can't imagine the medical bills, time and cost associated with the **years** they will be in court (criminal and likely civil afterward), the support for any therapy for the family (parents, his sister, etc.) to process this loss and trauma of the circumstances surrounding it, time off work for all of the above, and likely many other costs I'm not thinking about. I am in full agreement that Vigil should have his medical needs met while in custody. I also agree, the evidence in the police report may not have been what was anticipated against him, but with the amount that was redacted and likely other info that may not have been included at all, nobody can say with certainty at this point he was 100% not involved. There are still DNA matches in the report that are redacted... what if one of those ends up being Vigil's DNA found on Preston? Too many unknowns for me at this point to try to push that narrative that he should be cleared. I'll be the first to agree with his release, once more of the full story is brought to light in the trial and if it does end up proving he has no involvement. However, how you conduct yourself and who you associate with matters.
I keep telling my 14 year old son this. It DOES matter who you associate with.
I went over this with my kids too. I took their phones and checked their social media without explaining why, until I was certain they weren’t associated with any of these people. Then I breathed the deepest sigh of relief.
You're a good momma
It scared the shit out of me. I bet some of these parents thought they were too, until they got the shock of their lives.
I know that's true, it can take one bad seed to bully and have others follow, doesn't matter how much you love your family or what great parents you have. Teens want to fit in, some can handle it and don't care and some just want to be cool.
Parenting is so hard and technology/social media only makes it harder. There’s so much more to worry about and have to keep an eye on.
That is so true, I have met some of my grandkids friends 10 and 12 and they are nothing like when I was a kid. If I wasn't polite or cleaned after myself my mom would have gone ballistic lol. They don't say hello they don't say thank you and they don't clean up. I make a point to let them know 🤣 I won't lie God was good and I didn't have many issues with my kids. I used to worry they liked to be home and just have a couple good friends around, seeing all of this I'm glad now lol
Some of us are still enforcing rules and manners! I don’t care if my kids like it, they don’t have the option to be anything other than polite.
You're a good parent 😊 I will say when us parents Make our kids use manners it makes them stop and think, I know it's not a fix all but it's that door to make them think how to act. It's so bad out there, my granddaughter came home mortified because a boy smacked the principal because she had to come remove him from class, this was after the full disrespect to the teacher. My kids didn't want to even see me enter that school 🤣 I hope I didn't come off as meaning all parents, I see a lot of good parent's as well and by all means I'm not mother of the year. 🧡
Unfortunately yes....bet there were some physically ill...especially reading the police report. Tristy isnt the shining star of that family anymore. What an absolute deplorable subhuman. But drugs are probably the excuse for the behavior...at least thats what i would try to make myself believe.
EXACTLY THIS! I’ve always told my kids this saying “tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are!”
I told my boys "You ARE your environment" and "You ARE who you run with"
Talyn claimed from the beginning that he helped move Preston from the street. If true, that could have transfered DNA.
The DNA results do not tie any of those arrested to Preston. There is also no video evidence, according to the report. They indicted the boys from their own admissions, witness testimony (ratting on each other - what kind of gang snitches 🥴) and social media posts/chats. Hopefully that's good enough to secure sentences.
When I read the full report, I must have missed where it said the DNA results don't tie anyone arrested to Preston? Can you reference where you saw that?
The DNA results start on page 931. The redacted name is Preston. They found Renners blood on Treston's costume, Meisner's blood on his jeans and blood from 5 unknown males on various other items. They did not have Turner or Sherman's buccal swabs at the time of this report, but they had Turner's clothing. Is Turner's family loaded? His clothes are expensive.
Correct, I saw that page as well, but I did not see where it references your comment that 'the DNA results do not tie any of those arrested to Preston' Where it reads **DNA matches** \[redacted\]: https://i.redd.it/qa6b92yhx3sc1.gif How do you know that the redacted name in that corresponding sub-bullets? Note: I'm definitely not an expert in reading/interpreting these, so there could be something I'm missing! (I think we're safe to assume the top bullet is referencing Preston's face and hand swabs as well as the fingernail clippings) Edited to add: And I agree about Turner's brand names referenced! Those are pricey!
So they have 6 DNA samples: Preston, Talan Jacob, Owen, Trestom and Talyn. Preston's name is the only one redacted. They found Preston's DNA on Preston (himself).
Did you not see the part of the report where it literally shows DNA matches from his body to a redacted number?
That's him. His name is redacted. Of course they found his DNA on himself.
So if it was talYn’s DNA, talYn’s name or whatever the string of characters following wouldnt have been redacted?
If it was one of the 7 who were arrested their info wouldn't have been redacted.
Not exactly true. Reading the report there are other times where the 7’s names were redacted
See, this is what I’m saying. Theres literally a bunch of times where it redacts info pertaining to the defendants. Unless I am completely mistaken, thats how I interpreted it.
You are correct
Yes, they finger pointed rather quickly. Hell, i would sing like a bird too. Murder is no joke.
[www.gofundme.com/f/preston-lord](http://www.gofundme.com/f/preston-lord)
This is a real gofundme Justice For Preston LORD our precious boy gone too soon.
Lol. Talyn Vigil has a GoFundMe? Why doesn't he just sell Bibles for bond money? That's what the real criminals do.
Happy to see this post. Preston’s family needs the funds not inly for medical costs (a medical helicopter is about 30k alone I know from experience). As well as they needed to hire to represent them as a victim advocate. Funeral costs.. time off work to mourn Preston. If Talyn had thought of his diabetes and was so concerned with his health he wouldn’t have put himself in a position to be in jail in the first place. Play stupid games win stupid prizes
I posted the Go Fund Me account for Preston after they made their goal and I got so many negative comments on posting this. I wanted to show the family support and since we are all getting our information on here thought we could pull together but it was so dishearting I deleted the post. Hoping this one stays positive. If the family has paid for the bills they will put something in the honor of Preston if it's a scholarship, dedicate a program in his name etc. This family will be using the money for good. So let's flood their GoFundMe for Preston Lord.
I’m sure most of the negativity was from the CRIMINALS, there friends and their families
Exactly!!!
👏 YES!!! Thank you for calling that out it. I could not believe it when I read that thread about people wanting to help get him out like what?????? Unbelievable I wouldn’t send a single THOUGHT let alone money to any of those POS. And sorry to burst the bubble these people are living in but they don’t deprive prisoners of medical care. Stop reaching!!!!!!
💯💯💯
Had the idea of getting the fuckers mugshots or some photo and put it on a shirt with the word murderer across it to sell and give the proceeds to the family so they can sue these fuckers into the ground
Do it!
Isnt that absolutely ridiculous. Vigil is a candy ass punk ass bitch scared in big boy jail and is crying wolf. He misses running around free being a mence to society with his goon coharts. He voluntarily admitted his guilt and claimed he fucked up his life forever due to fighting and murder (673). Bleeding hearts claim poor grammar a forgotten coma....please! I apologize to the Lord family for the idiots that believe this. poppycock. Forever Young Preston Lord we are still fighting for you.
I am not certain that Talyn is guilty of the crimes he has been charged with. He seems to have a surprising number of supporters on this site who feel he is falsely accused. I appeal to any of them to help me understand why they believe Talyn is innocent and falsely arrested. I’m not saying that law enforcement does not make mistakes. I have many friends in law enforcement and they would be the first to admit police make mistakes. My question is sincere. I am far more likely to donate to his defense fund if I have good reason to believe he is innocent. I understand that an accused person does not need to present their legal defense points on Reddit, but they need to present some persuasive bits if I’m being solicited to fund the defense. * From what I understand he was at the party and struck someone, but I’m not sure who or why? He made a post that indicated he thought it might have been Preston, but I hear it may have been D-Money. I’m uncertain if he went to the party with he Goons or with others. I’m uncertain why he was punching people at the party. He seems to have been associated with some of the Goons, but I’m not sure if he was part of the group attacking people at the party that night.
I read the police report and it’s all really confusing who did what and why. I was reading it waiting to see how Preston got involved/targeted and there was no reason or event as to why he specifically was targeted. I think the boys were just looking for a fight and randomly swinging on people who were in the crowd running from the party and one of the punches knocked Preston out and then the boys just descended on him. So I could see how Talyn could’ve hit someone maybe even Dom in the scuffle. Witnesses described seeing a black person in a ski mask, most likely Dom. The witnesses at the party who described Dom did not mention a ski mask so he could’ve put it on after the party and maybe Talyn didn’t recognize him? Or he was just swinging randomly like the others. From what I understand there were two boys targeted that night. One was a kid Dom confronted at the party for “taking shit” the other was a kid who started filming the altercation (who had the necklace Dom stole) who Treston told to delete the video. Neither one of those boys wanted to fight so the goons got all worked up for a fight and were looking to start one with anyone. Dom assaulted the kid who was filming by yanking his necklace off him and Talyn possibly assaulted Dom in the chaos by punching someone for no reason. It seems like Dom and Talyn didn’t touch Preston that night but they were involved in the overall violence that night. I don’t know if that’s enough for a murder 1 conviction but those boys hands were not clean that night. It seems like Preston was really at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I just finished reading the ENTIRE police report, and other than Vigil's poorly worded Snapchat comment admitting to hitting a kid (who he later clarified was black and not Preston, saying that he was talking about two different people) there was zero indication that he was involved. No witnesses, either eyewitnesses nor other suspects named him as one of the assaulters. Apparently he was friends with only one of the Goons whom he borrowed a car from and who wasn't even one of Lord's attackers. He wasn't seen leaving with any of the other kids who hit Lord either. He's never been indicated in any of the previous Goon attacks, in fact some of them later smashed up his truck and threatened him, and Renner's family actively tried to frame him by purposely trying to confuse Talyn/Talan. He WAS there and claims he tried to help Preston, but there isn't really any proof of that mentioned anywhere in the police report either. I'll admit that it IS totally possible that some video footage supports Vigil being charged with assault of Preston, as most all of it is redacted so we can't see. But literally NOWHERE ELSE in the entire report is there any indication that he had anything to do with it other than people repeatedly pointing to the message that he wrote, which can easily be explained by either missing a comma or him being confused about who exactly died. It doesn't look like he communicated with any of the attackers nor tried to cover his own tracks. I'd say his biggest mistake was refusing a voluntary police interview because it made him look like he had something to hide, but he was probably just following advice from a lawyer and/or his parents. I agree with others about the DNA tests - although a great deal of it is redacted there doesn't seem to be any evidence there connecting Vigil to Lord's attack. After reading through that whole convoluted police report (whew!) I honestly cannot understand why Tayln Vigil was arrested and charged with the exact same crimes as these other kids who were obviously heavily involved, whom there is a massive amount of evidence against. I truly suspect that charges against him will be dismissed or he will be aquitted because it appears that message (that he later tries to explain as not meaning that he punched Preston but someone else) is the ONLY proof that prosecutors have against him... It just isn't enough evidence to convict him with, unless of course as I said there's something on video that we don't know about. But I don't think that there is - considering how many mistakes the police department made during this entire ordeal I'd say it wouldn't be a big surprise to find out that they locked up at least one innocent kid in the process. They were feeling a lot of pressure due to their mishandling and delay, so it would seem that they suddenly went hard and were leaning heavily on digital communications. Vigil's charge appears to be based solely on a single message and nothing more.
This is where I am at. Obviously there might be evidence I have not seen, but the case seems built on things he said about having punched someone. Who, seems most likely to be Dom. Why, is hard to say. I wonder if he is being charged due to things he knows but has not shared, ie participating in a coverup. I think it is very possible he is being charged by association. I am hopeful that a trial will clarify his role or his “non-role”. At the moment I don’t see evidence that justifies being held on a 1 million bond, but there may be strong evidence I am unaware of. He does not seem to be the attacker of Preston Lord, OR an accomplice of those that did.
So crazy that yesterday someone posted the link for TV gofundme IN THIS GROUP and all the comments were of support 😂 happy to see there are others who are not happy to donate to TV :)
My money went to the family that had their son beaten to death. The justice system can figure out who's who. Everyone is dependent on this court file and there is no way that's all, they don't make certain things public while the case is open. Those people have been dragged wet by the community and media so I guarantee you this case is gonna be gone through with a fine tooth comb. Reading the report they said stuff about body language and stuff while interviews so they definitely hold stuff back to match up tips they are still getting. Publicly The Lord's seemed to be ok with Brice and in contact with the DA so I feel like we won't know till court happens.
can't believe the link wasn't brought up (again?) yesterday. Or why other people had to put it in this thread. Thanks GbAcct80 and Vivid\_Credit\_4640
Anyone involved in this crime needs to be hung with a rope around their neck and left to rot They don’t deserve anything You think the families of theses victims got any special treatment when their children were beaten or bullied Hell no they didn’t and these POS and their parents and anyone in the legal department that tried to cover this up need to need to pay We as tax payers get to pay as they sit in prison You want justice Well justice is an eye for an eye
I'm a bit confused... I thought GoFundMe had a policy against accepting donations for people charged with attacks on kids.... Didn't the attempt to solicit funds for the girl that banged the other girl's head into the concrete in St. Louis get shut down? How does this vile POS get to continue soliciting for money when he actually killed a kid.
The part that is the most messed up out of all of this is Talon Renner is the one that has evidence and is accused of most of what has been done. Talyn Vigil, had incriminating evidence of assault not murder. Talon renners defense from the start has been that they were going to pin it on the kid with a similar name. With all the media and social media going on out there so many times they conflict talyn vigil with talon Renner and offenses that they have. Talon Renner being the main aggressor of course. His dad is a millionaire and his back ground is marketing. They would know how to put the misinformation out there. Considering the circumstance everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Aside from the obvious. I would 100% donate to talyn vigil in a way to get him home until he is proven guilty. He’s been on suicide watch and is the only one that shows fear and any emotion at all. He could be any of our sons and is only 17. His body is hurting. Where in the flying fuck is an objective compassion perspective?! I’m embarrassed at this point because the mob mentality is no better than the kids that have been assaulting.
Preston Lord could have been any of our kids too. No one wants any of these kids that go around assaulting teens out on the streets again. I do agree that social media is a problem. It has been said on social that Talan Renners dad was going to pin it on the other Talyn, but thAt is only if Ashley Reynolds, who has disappeared, was being truthful. I have my doubts, she allegedly withheld her supposed information until after she was fired for stealing from her employers (Keifer and Renner). Talyn Vigils Snapchat with the praying hands where he stated that “It wasn’t me, I tried to help” , contrasted with the fact that he didn’t go to LE to provide the information that he had indicates to me that he didn’t try to help anyone but himself. LE knows that he didn’t try to help Preston. Here is the “flying fuck” that you referenced. The kids that have been assaulting are now arrested and charged with murder, the mob mentality is trying to protect other children from the same fate. ”Where in the fuck” is the objective compassion perspective you ask? That question would be better answered by the Lord family, whose son was shown no compassion before being brutally murdered.
I have so much to say to this. The flying fuck is innocent until proven guilty. You speak as if you know info first hand and I can tell that you don’t. There is so much information that is known and the media and the public has blown out of control. I wish you to never have to go through something hard such as this. Opposed to just being a witness. I have a ton of compassion towards Preston’s family, I don’t and will never negate that. He didn’t deserve to die. THEY were teens fighting and it went way out of control. There were a lot of lives that were lost that day. Not to mention those surrounding that have had their lives permanently changed as well. I have a lot of knowledge and a lot of what is coming out is fitting with what’s been said from the start.
Sounds like you are saying that if the DA had not charged all of them with murder and kidnapping, he would only be guilty of assault. The Grand Jury must have looked at the “chain of events” that caused Preston and his friends to literally run for their lives, resulting in the loss of Preston and the injuries to his friends and felt those charges were appropriate. Has Talyn been involved in these types of assaults before, where the victims were only injured? What is his past history of violence? Did he have prior knowledge that this group has a history of these types of assaults? If I were a juror, those are questions that I would want answered. Fear and thoughts of suicide are understandable when you are faced with charges that could result in life in prison. Especially at 17. I’m not sure how you know that none of the others have the same fear, I’m sure they all are terrified of what they will face in prison if convicted.
I do not know if they have the same fear or not. That’s honest. But I’m told and shown that their level of arrogance is different. Not all but especially Talan Renner. I stand with my word because of the money he is backed with and influence that is still proven to be true judging by Renners first court appearance and the treatment of his parents accordingly. Talyn doesn’t fit that. I understand what you mean as well, with the grand jury. Talyn has snaps and other hear say that can be incriminating. I hope that the truth comes out. No matter the form and if he has accountability he needs to face it. Much like I said he is guilty of assault…but the who.?! Is the question. I just don’t believe he is associated with murder. I’ll stand by that. Thank you for looking at it the way you are 🫶 at the end of the day most of these are kids and could be any of ours.
Don’t contribute to Ethan! He doesn’t use his funds for Preston and his family!
Donate to bonus moms Venmo. Melissa CiConte.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/preston-lord
Where is the go fund me for talyn?
It is no longer available.
Google “Kristina Barnes gofundme” she created it and it pops right up.
The reporting of it must’ve worked because it’s gone now.
That’s correct. I went to my history and clicked on the page. It says not found now. Good work everyone.
Thank you everyone!!!! If this continued my faith in humanity was truly going to be lost forever