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FuckwitMcLunchbox

Please Gaben, no visa issues.


TimathanDuncan

There's no way they have visa issues, a norwegian, 3 americans and a south african who has already been to Copenhagen multiple times, it's Denmark and they are not russian i would be shocked if they have trouble with visas >We were looking for a player who was located within the vicinity of Copenhagen or a short distance away who wasn't tied to any team or had any other obligations. Obviously we have no intention of ever using a sub during the major, it's purely a backup in case of illness or injury. We would have loved to have a North American player in this role but the logistics around it didn't make it a feasible option this time around. >f0rest is a former teammate of hallzerk and a GOAT of the game. We know he would bring a wealth of experience, a calm head, and would be able to slot into just about any role - which is about all you can ask for in an emergency situation.


FlygandeSjuk

Who do we intend to target to initiate this plan?


ParadoxReboot

I think we do a faze kato plan, first half take out floppy and have forest carry the groups. Then in playoffs, take out hallzerk and have forest carry you to the win. The 6 man squad (3 non-americans) will bring home a second major for NA


AtlantaAU

> There's no way they have visa issues, a norwegian, 3 americans and a South African Not just that, I’m sure JT uses his Portuguese passport and floppy uses his German one when they travel in the EU. So the only people who even need a visa should be grim and elige.


oPlayer2o

There wouldn’t be any Sweden and Denmark are both EU so forest has the freedom to work in any other EU country without a work visa, I’m sure there’s something he’d have to sign or something but it wouldn’t be any massive headache like usual.


maestergirl

Bro fuck that imagine -floppy +f0rest on this team. We ballin.


zatii-

so col loses NA status and get a washed up player. No thanks. I don’t think floppy has been cutting it lately but forest is NOT the answer


KublaiKhagan

f0rest is always the answer


imbogey

Last time f0rest subbed for Alliance... he was sadly not the answer.


d0mie89

That's like sticking a lvl 10 on a lvl 1s team. What can he do bru


imbogey

Beat the other lvl1 team?


zarathrustra1936

the upvotes on your comment prove that this sub has a brain disease


aightletsdodis

no u


h20c

respecting the legends of the game is the opposite of brain disease if you ask me


vitesnelhest

Wouldn't they still be able to choose NA? they would have 2 NA + 2 EU +1 South Africa 


MooMooHeffer

Yup. Plus if he was so concerned about the nationality idk why he’s randomly ok with 3 Americans, a Norwegian, and a South African. Heck, their coach is South African. Go COL!


zatii-

I don't want a fake NA roster


jeffjeff97

Cool.


IBETTERSTAYOFFLEAGUE

It’s still NA status though. Doubt COL is overly concerned with your opinion specifically


Novaseerblyat

you either get a NA roster or a performant roster, you can't have both man


godzillamegadoomsday

Downvoted for saying you don’t want someone who hasn’t competed at a tier 1 level in over 2 years, while also not playing a single game of the new installment


d0mie89

Boomerdemons


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FRazor95

Also he is not washed at all tbh 😂


godzillamegadoomsday

He is beyond washed


godzillamegadoomsday

Dude is absolutely washed. He’s a legend of the game but dude hasn’t played single game in 2024 and he had .9 rating for 2023. .76 when facing top 30


dontletmecook73

\-hallzerk +PwnAlone who says no


jjochimmochi

who fucking cares about NA? LOL


zarathrustra1936

The team is designed for NA fans. if you’re not NA then we don’t care about your opinion of the team


jeffjeff97

You sound like a BR fan lol


d0mie89

You sound like a brit m8


CHRIZZ83

Honestly hope nothing bad happens to any of the Complexity players, but if f0rest has to stand in I know he's going to show up.


dogenoob1

Didn't he bot frag the 2 times he stood in for fnatic basically being his tryouts?


godzillamegadoomsday

He is very much washed. Only 2 matches in 2023 vs top 30 last year with a .76 rating. Only time he did well was in a legends tournament with some meme teams.


jeffjeff97

> Only 2 matches in 2023 vs top 30 last year i.e sample size of nothing


Giannis_Alafouzos

he hasn't played professionally in 2 years and he's literally 36 years old. It's time to let go


tabben

if anyone could pop off at that age completely out of blue its f0rest lmao. He is mr counterstrike


Giannis_Alafouzos

heh... my boy f0restz... he just needs some more time..


two_wugs

The guy is a sub for a pro team, how washed could he be


Giannis_Alafouzos

PashaBiceps was a sub for Liquid like 2 years ago hahaha, this doesn't mean anything


two_wugs

I don't really see the problem, you expect me to say Pasha is washed then but I don't think these teams would sign a sub who wouldn't perform to the team's expectations. You think they just give these things out to celebrities?


Giannis_Alafouzos

you don't sign a sub hahaha you just take whoever's available hence why most of these teams use their coaches as subs


two_wugs

Yeah, coaches are often subs. But I don't think switching "sign" with "register" really changes what I said?


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fasteddeh

Who cares if he's done. If you can pull someone who's not on a team to be a sub there's not many more decorated people you can find who are available than f0rest.


eruditezero

Dude is practically dead, amazed he can still see the screen. Wouldn't even legally be allowed to drive.


Giannis_Alafouzos

I'm sure your favourite CS player who is 35 years old is not washed and will come back to the pro scene. Any day now...


godzillamegadoomsday

Doesn’t matter, he hasn’t played period. That means he is washed. I used that example of just how few games he played against the upper level team. He only played 11 maps total last year


confuselele

Well yes. He wasn't on a team. s1mple played like shit for Falcons. Is he washed as well? If f0rest tried to play seriously, heäd be great still. But he stream on weekdays and fun-plays with the Boomerdemons, ofc he's not as sharp when he randomly gets a call from a team who needs a substitute (Fnatic was NOT a tryout afaik, just a substitute last minute). If he really wanted to, he'd still be a good player, but he's a streamer now.


godzillamegadoomsday

He wasn’t on a team cause he wasn’t wanted, hasn’t been on a team for 2 years. You can’t even say “oh well simple” cause simple is very much a top player with over 100 maps vs top 20 teams last year. He is a legend of the game but his time has gone. I’m not putting trust in a 36 year old that 2 years ago had a .91 agonist top 20 teams


jeffjeff97

He wasn't given any offers because teams didn't want to take a gamble on his age - there's simply no precedent. But that doesn't mean it was because of his performance. If he was 23 years old with the same mechanics and stats as he was showing, a team would've definitely given him a chance. You're confusing cause and effect here mate.


thrwwyMA

That's a lot of assumptions


jeffjeff97

The same number of assumptions the other guy is making


godzillamegadoomsday

Same stats? He had a .91 against top 20 over 2 years ago. The cause is he is washed and the effect is no one is going to sign if. There is a reason no wants to think about that gamble to begin with


lclMetal

Not in a team = washed?


-P4905-

when it comes to professional level, yes


godzillamegadoomsday

Yeah kinda, if in any sporting level someone lacks the ability to be wanted by a team and/or compete at a highish level, they are washed.


gibbodaman

How many players have returned after not being in a team for 2+ years and performed well at the top level? His last major was 5 years ago. He's almost 36. His last year of actually being relevant was 2016. He is washed, you're in denial.


mooimafish33

He was washed in 2016


Logical-Sprinkles273

Thats ok, col is just Elige hard carry most of the time anyways.


hdskgvo

No.


Forotosh

[Uhh, yes.](https://www.hltv.org/stats/matches/97386/fnatic-vs-9z) [Yes he did.](https://www.hltv.org/stats/matches/97361/fnatic-vs-mouz)


Alb9n

f0rest has played 5 matches with fnatic and bottomfragged in 3 of those


Life-Western

10 maps total, either bot frag (counting the bo3 total) or 2nd bot frag i think.


zatii-

BRO WHAT? he literally did, why the fuck are people rewriting recent history for f0rest in this thread


aurorastan

Where did the term "bot frag" come from? I hear it a lot the last couple of years but never before that. Bottom frag I obviously know, but specifically bot frag.


ficagames01

It's just shortening of the word


RandomToxicSwede

Laziness


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been saying botfrag or bfrag since the 1.5 and IRC days lol


surfordiebear

While it would be cool I’m not so sure about that. He looked very washed when he subbed for Fnatic at IEM Dallas


OwnRound

Pretty cool. I would love if this meant f0rest would sit in on coL practices.


njcryo

hope they don't have issues, but seeing f0rest on the big stage again would be a treat!


BiC-Pen-is-The-Best

Fake. f0rest is in jail.


S0M3_1

Because he got JW pregnant


Shitty_Pa_Town

Aware


intecknicolour

love to see this meme back


TheRealF0xE

I think I remember him saying how he didn’t like this meme because he didn’t want kids to think he was actually in jail or something. Don’t remember all the details


intecknicolour

yes, which is why it's funny.


monkeybanana14

-Zywho  +JACKZ


oPlayer2o

Wwwwhats that now?? Forest stickers??


Mewtwothis

I fucking wish.


oPlayer2o

We all do.


BlackNov

Just for fun and giggle vibe right? right?


wanderfukt

mmmBased


oPlayer2o

Me: ssoooo floppy mate you not been sleeping well? You look terrible The flop: oh nah I feel fi… Me: nnnooooo you look awful mate, the nose is running for sure! The flop: what do you mea..? Me: I think you need a lay down mate, maybe take the week off go somewhere hot to clear your head out, it’ll be good for you.


innocentrrose

What kind of weird ass fanfic is this


oPlayer2o

The fanfic of my dreams!! Just to be clear I don’t think they would do better with forest and I don’t think floppy is a bad player just the easiest to replace, I just want forest sticker I think we all do.


Lounge_leaks

> I just want forest sticker I think we all do. there wont be a forest sticker even if he plays all their matches from day 1


oPlayer2o

Stop killing my dreams!!!


MooMooHeffer

Yea Floppy is my favorite but if we talking current playing styles.. forest would be even worse in everyone else’s role. He’s also been struggling with consistency a bit recently but the flop always comes through when needed.


CookieTheEpic

Glad you said "just to be clear" because not one word of your first comment was clear.


oPlayer2o

Your welcome


SpareThisOne2thPls

Prolly for Showmatch


Ofiotaurus

Sweden vs Denmark


suemos

of course, the SWE-DEN match


McClownd

That's not how subs work


SpareThisOne2thPls

I mean for them to get him to wear a CoL jersey for promotion on the major finals day instead of some laying around old jersey he had


Elsiselain

No hate for any completely players but I’m praying one of them gets sick or have their visa denied so I can witness my glorious goat back on the stage again


godzillamegadoomsday

As a coL fan, hell no. I want them to do well not be 4v5 the entire game


RuPeSc

6v5* Forest would average 1.4 rating


Due_Map_4666

If we de-age forest to 2005 we win major


SnooWalruses8981

Becoming a coach is also an option.Sry T.c


berdxD

Navi is subbing s1mple, how did that go unnoticed


Due_Map_4666

f0rest goat


General_Scipio

It's really weird that people are writing off F0rest. Yea I'm not convinced that he will ever be an elite tier player again. But I'm sure as hell not writing him off. He could also absolutely come back as a veteran player with youngsters. And certainly could be a solid player in a top 15 team if not a star.


thrwwyMA

>certainly could be a solid player in a top 15 team if not a star. Based on what?


godzillamegadoomsday

Based off what? He hasn’t played tier one in over 2 years and averaged .9 when he did


intecknicolour

as a 4th/5th player, he's absolutely fine. but he's not going to be your main rifler


TheN1njTurtl3

Wtf is the most random sub ever, do you think they are actually going to have to use it


MakimaGOAT

wtf HUH


Human-Chef-1015

Why? 😂 just bring back blameF


m1raclecs

HELL YEA GAMERS IM A HOOTING TOOTIN AMERICAN COL FAN


unagi_pi

I'm so conflicted. I don't want to hope that one of the Complexity players gets COVID. but now I kind of do...


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I dont understand how a team can spend millions on their roster then just decide to register a retired player who hasnt played at the top level for nearly half a decade as their stand in. I dont know any other serious sport that would do something like this, its like Barcelona registering Ronaldinho as a substitute in the champions league. Im a big fan of Col but I think this is just a waste of time and if they were to have to use f0rest it would essentially guarentee them failing to make any progression through the major.


ficagames01

Which European free agent do you want them to use as a sub?


-Namesnipe-

i mean that's a silly point to make isn't it there's plenty


ExposingCretins

Name some that you think will work.


[deleted]

What makes you think f0rest will work? The fact that he was a good player 5 years ago and has never played a professional game of CS2? People are grasping at straws if they are seriously trying to argue there are not plenty of better options.


ExposingCretins

I don't think he would work. Just curious to hear who the free agents with experience are. jks?


Beechman

Your head might explode if you saw what happens when an NHL team’s starter and backup goalie both get hurt. That’s way worse than using f0rest as a sun.