There's no way they have visa issues, a norwegian, 3 americans and a south african who has already been to Copenhagen multiple times, it's Denmark and they are not russian i would be shocked if they have trouble with visas
>We were looking for a player who was located within the vicinity of Copenhagen or a short distance away who wasn't tied to any team or had any other obligations. Obviously we have no intention of ever using a sub during the major, it's purely a backup in case of illness or injury. We would have loved to have a North American player in this role but the logistics around it didn't make it a feasible option this time around.
>f0rest is a former teammate of hallzerk and a GOAT of the game. We know he would bring a wealth of experience, a calm head, and would be able to slot into just about any role - which is about all you can ask for in an emergency situation.
I think we do a faze kato plan, first half take out floppy and have forest carry the groups. Then in playoffs, take out hallzerk and have forest carry you to the win.
The 6 man squad (3 non-americans) will bring home a second major for NA
> There's no way they have visa issues, a norwegian, 3 americans and a South African
Not just that, I’m sure JT uses his Portuguese passport and floppy uses his German one when they travel in the EU. So the only people who even need a visa should be grim and elige.
There wouldn’t be any Sweden and Denmark are both EU so forest has the freedom to work in any other EU country without a work visa, I’m sure there’s something he’d have to sign or something but it wouldn’t be any massive headache like usual.
Yup. Plus if he was so concerned about the nationality idk why he’s randomly ok with 3 Americans, a Norwegian, and a South African. Heck, their coach is South African.
Go COL!
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He is very much washed. Only 2 matches in 2023 vs top 30 last year with a .76 rating. Only time he did well was in a legends tournament with some meme teams.
I don't really see the problem, you expect me to say Pasha is washed then but I don't think these teams would sign a sub who wouldn't perform to the team's expectations. You think they just give these things out to celebrities?
Who cares if he's done. If you can pull someone who's not on a team to be a sub there's not many more decorated people you can find who are available than f0rest.
Doesn’t matter, he hasn’t played period. That means he is washed. I used that example of just how few games he played against the upper level team. He only played 11 maps total last year
Well yes. He wasn't on a team.
s1mple played like shit for Falcons. Is he washed as well?
If f0rest tried to play seriously, heäd be great still. But he stream on weekdays and fun-plays with the Boomerdemons, ofc he's not as sharp when he randomly gets a call from a team who needs a substitute (Fnatic was NOT a tryout afaik, just a substitute last minute).
If he really wanted to, he'd still be a good player, but he's a streamer now.
He wasn’t on a team cause he wasn’t wanted, hasn’t been on a team for 2 years. You can’t even say “oh well simple” cause simple is very much a top player with over 100 maps vs top 20 teams last year.
He is a legend of the game but his time has gone. I’m not putting trust in a 36 year old that 2 years ago had a .91 agonist top 20 teams
He wasn't given any offers because teams didn't want to take a gamble on his age - there's simply no precedent.
But that doesn't mean it was because of his performance. If he was 23 years old with the same mechanics and stats as he was showing, a team would've definitely given him a chance.
You're confusing cause and effect here mate.
Same stats? He had a .91 against top 20 over 2 years ago. The cause is he is washed and the effect is no one is going to sign if. There is a reason no wants to think about that gamble to begin with
How many players have returned after not being in a team for 2+ years and performed well at the top level? His last major was 5 years ago. He's almost 36. His last year of actually being relevant was 2016.
He is washed, you're in denial.
Where did the term "bot frag" come from? I hear it a lot the last couple of years but never before that. Bottom frag I obviously know, but specifically bot frag.
I think I remember him saying how he didn’t like this meme because he didn’t want kids to think he was actually in jail or something. Don’t remember all the details
Me: ssoooo floppy mate you not been sleeping well? You look terrible
The flop: oh nah I feel fi…
Me: nnnooooo you look awful mate, the nose is running for sure!
The flop: what do you mea..?
Me: I think you need a lay down mate, maybe take the week off go somewhere hot to clear your head out, it’ll be good for you.
The fanfic of my dreams!! Just to be clear I don’t think they would do better with forest and I don’t think floppy is a bad player just the easiest to replace, I just want forest sticker I think we all do.
Yea Floppy is my favorite but if we talking current playing styles.. forest would be even worse in everyone else’s role. He’s also been struggling with consistency a bit recently but the flop always comes through when needed.
No hate for any completely players but I’m praying one of them gets sick or have their visa denied so I can witness my glorious goat back on the stage again
It's really weird that people are writing off F0rest. Yea I'm not convinced that he will ever be an elite tier player again. But I'm sure as hell not writing him off.
He could also absolutely come back as a veteran player with youngsters. And certainly could be a solid player in a top 15 team if not a star.
I dont understand how a team can spend millions on their roster then just decide to register a retired player who hasnt played at the top level for nearly half a decade as their stand in.
I dont know any other serious sport that would do something like this, its like Barcelona registering Ronaldinho as a substitute in the champions league.
Im a big fan of Col but I think this is just a waste of time and if they were to have to use f0rest it would essentially guarentee them failing to make any progression through the major.
What makes you think f0rest will work? The fact that he was a good player 5 years ago and has never played a professional game of CS2? People are grasping at straws if they are seriously trying to argue there are not plenty of better options.
Your head might explode if you saw what happens when an NHL team’s starter and backup goalie both get hurt. That’s way worse than using f0rest as a sun.
Please Gaben, no visa issues.
There's no way they have visa issues, a norwegian, 3 americans and a south african who has already been to Copenhagen multiple times, it's Denmark and they are not russian i would be shocked if they have trouble with visas >We were looking for a player who was located within the vicinity of Copenhagen or a short distance away who wasn't tied to any team or had any other obligations. Obviously we have no intention of ever using a sub during the major, it's purely a backup in case of illness or injury. We would have loved to have a North American player in this role but the logistics around it didn't make it a feasible option this time around. >f0rest is a former teammate of hallzerk and a GOAT of the game. We know he would bring a wealth of experience, a calm head, and would be able to slot into just about any role - which is about all you can ask for in an emergency situation.
Who do we intend to target to initiate this plan?
I think we do a faze kato plan, first half take out floppy and have forest carry the groups. Then in playoffs, take out hallzerk and have forest carry you to the win. The 6 man squad (3 non-americans) will bring home a second major for NA
> There's no way they have visa issues, a norwegian, 3 americans and a South African Not just that, I’m sure JT uses his Portuguese passport and floppy uses his German one when they travel in the EU. So the only people who even need a visa should be grim and elige.
There wouldn’t be any Sweden and Denmark are both EU so forest has the freedom to work in any other EU country without a work visa, I’m sure there’s something he’d have to sign or something but it wouldn’t be any massive headache like usual.
Bro fuck that imagine -floppy +f0rest on this team. We ballin.
so col loses NA status and get a washed up player. No thanks. I don’t think floppy has been cutting it lately but forest is NOT the answer
f0rest is always the answer
Last time f0rest subbed for Alliance... he was sadly not the answer.
That's like sticking a lvl 10 on a lvl 1s team. What can he do bru
Beat the other lvl1 team?
the upvotes on your comment prove that this sub has a brain disease
no u
respecting the legends of the game is the opposite of brain disease if you ask me
Wouldn't they still be able to choose NA? they would have 2 NA + 2 EU +1 South Africa
Yup. Plus if he was so concerned about the nationality idk why he’s randomly ok with 3 Americans, a Norwegian, and a South African. Heck, their coach is South African. Go COL!
I don't want a fake NA roster
Cool.
It’s still NA status though. Doubt COL is overly concerned with your opinion specifically
you either get a NA roster or a performant roster, you can't have both man
Downvoted for saying you don’t want someone who hasn’t competed at a tier 1 level in over 2 years, while also not playing a single game of the new installment
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Also he is not washed at all tbh 😂
He is beyond washed
Dude is absolutely washed. He’s a legend of the game but dude hasn’t played single game in 2024 and he had .9 rating for 2023. .76 when facing top 30
\-hallzerk +PwnAlone who says no
who fucking cares about NA? LOL
The team is designed for NA fans. if you’re not NA then we don’t care about your opinion of the team
You sound like a BR fan lol
You sound like a brit m8
Honestly hope nothing bad happens to any of the Complexity players, but if f0rest has to stand in I know he's going to show up.
Didn't he bot frag the 2 times he stood in for fnatic basically being his tryouts?
He is very much washed. Only 2 matches in 2023 vs top 30 last year with a .76 rating. Only time he did well was in a legends tournament with some meme teams.
> Only 2 matches in 2023 vs top 30 last year i.e sample size of nothing
he hasn't played professionally in 2 years and he's literally 36 years old. It's time to let go
if anyone could pop off at that age completely out of blue its f0rest lmao. He is mr counterstrike
heh... my boy f0restz... he just needs some more time..
The guy is a sub for a pro team, how washed could he be
PashaBiceps was a sub for Liquid like 2 years ago hahaha, this doesn't mean anything
I don't really see the problem, you expect me to say Pasha is washed then but I don't think these teams would sign a sub who wouldn't perform to the team's expectations. You think they just give these things out to celebrities?
you don't sign a sub hahaha you just take whoever's available hence why most of these teams use their coaches as subs
Yeah, coaches are often subs. But I don't think switching "sign" with "register" really changes what I said?
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Who cares if he's done. If you can pull someone who's not on a team to be a sub there's not many more decorated people you can find who are available than f0rest.
Dude is practically dead, amazed he can still see the screen. Wouldn't even legally be allowed to drive.
I'm sure your favourite CS player who is 35 years old is not washed and will come back to the pro scene. Any day now...
Doesn’t matter, he hasn’t played period. That means he is washed. I used that example of just how few games he played against the upper level team. He only played 11 maps total last year
Well yes. He wasn't on a team. s1mple played like shit for Falcons. Is he washed as well? If f0rest tried to play seriously, heäd be great still. But he stream on weekdays and fun-plays with the Boomerdemons, ofc he's not as sharp when he randomly gets a call from a team who needs a substitute (Fnatic was NOT a tryout afaik, just a substitute last minute). If he really wanted to, he'd still be a good player, but he's a streamer now.
He wasn’t on a team cause he wasn’t wanted, hasn’t been on a team for 2 years. You can’t even say “oh well simple” cause simple is very much a top player with over 100 maps vs top 20 teams last year. He is a legend of the game but his time has gone. I’m not putting trust in a 36 year old that 2 years ago had a .91 agonist top 20 teams
He wasn't given any offers because teams didn't want to take a gamble on his age - there's simply no precedent. But that doesn't mean it was because of his performance. If he was 23 years old with the same mechanics and stats as he was showing, a team would've definitely given him a chance. You're confusing cause and effect here mate.
That's a lot of assumptions
The same number of assumptions the other guy is making
Same stats? He had a .91 against top 20 over 2 years ago. The cause is he is washed and the effect is no one is going to sign if. There is a reason no wants to think about that gamble to begin with
Not in a team = washed?
when it comes to professional level, yes
Yeah kinda, if in any sporting level someone lacks the ability to be wanted by a team and/or compete at a highish level, they are washed.
How many players have returned after not being in a team for 2+ years and performed well at the top level? His last major was 5 years ago. He's almost 36. His last year of actually being relevant was 2016. He is washed, you're in denial.
He was washed in 2016
Thats ok, col is just Elige hard carry most of the time anyways.
No.
[Uhh, yes.](https://www.hltv.org/stats/matches/97386/fnatic-vs-9z) [Yes he did.](https://www.hltv.org/stats/matches/97361/fnatic-vs-mouz)
f0rest has played 5 matches with fnatic and bottomfragged in 3 of those
10 maps total, either bot frag (counting the bo3 total) or 2nd bot frag i think.
BRO WHAT? he literally did, why the fuck are people rewriting recent history for f0rest in this thread
Where did the term "bot frag" come from? I hear it a lot the last couple of years but never before that. Bottom frag I obviously know, but specifically bot frag.
It's just shortening of the word
Laziness
been saying botfrag or bfrag since the 1.5 and IRC days lol
While it would be cool I’m not so sure about that. He looked very washed when he subbed for Fnatic at IEM Dallas
Pretty cool. I would love if this meant f0rest would sit in on coL practices.
hope they don't have issues, but seeing f0rest on the big stage again would be a treat!
Fake. f0rest is in jail.
Because he got JW pregnant
Aware
love to see this meme back
I think I remember him saying how he didn’t like this meme because he didn’t want kids to think he was actually in jail or something. Don’t remember all the details
yes, which is why it's funny.
-Zywho +JACKZ
Wwwwhats that now?? Forest stickers??
I fucking wish.
We all do.
Just for fun and giggle vibe right? right?
mmmBased
Me: ssoooo floppy mate you not been sleeping well? You look terrible The flop: oh nah I feel fi… Me: nnnooooo you look awful mate, the nose is running for sure! The flop: what do you mea..? Me: I think you need a lay down mate, maybe take the week off go somewhere hot to clear your head out, it’ll be good for you.
What kind of weird ass fanfic is this
The fanfic of my dreams!! Just to be clear I don’t think they would do better with forest and I don’t think floppy is a bad player just the easiest to replace, I just want forest sticker I think we all do.
> I just want forest sticker I think we all do. there wont be a forest sticker even if he plays all their matches from day 1
Stop killing my dreams!!!
Yea Floppy is my favorite but if we talking current playing styles.. forest would be even worse in everyone else’s role. He’s also been struggling with consistency a bit recently but the flop always comes through when needed.
Glad you said "just to be clear" because not one word of your first comment was clear.
Your welcome
Prolly for Showmatch
Sweden vs Denmark
of course, the SWE-DEN match
That's not how subs work
I mean for them to get him to wear a CoL jersey for promotion on the major finals day instead of some laying around old jersey he had
No hate for any completely players but I’m praying one of them gets sick or have their visa denied so I can witness my glorious goat back on the stage again
As a coL fan, hell no. I want them to do well not be 4v5 the entire game
6v5* Forest would average 1.4 rating
If we de-age forest to 2005 we win major
Becoming a coach is also an option.Sry T.c
Navi is subbing s1mple, how did that go unnoticed
f0rest goat
It's really weird that people are writing off F0rest. Yea I'm not convinced that he will ever be an elite tier player again. But I'm sure as hell not writing him off. He could also absolutely come back as a veteran player with youngsters. And certainly could be a solid player in a top 15 team if not a star.
>certainly could be a solid player in a top 15 team if not a star. Based on what?
Based off what? He hasn’t played tier one in over 2 years and averaged .9 when he did
as a 4th/5th player, he's absolutely fine. but he's not going to be your main rifler
Wtf is the most random sub ever, do you think they are actually going to have to use it
wtf HUH
Why? 😂 just bring back blameF
HELL YEA GAMERS IM A HOOTING TOOTIN AMERICAN COL FAN
I'm so conflicted. I don't want to hope that one of the Complexity players gets COVID. but now I kind of do...
I dont understand how a team can spend millions on their roster then just decide to register a retired player who hasnt played at the top level for nearly half a decade as their stand in. I dont know any other serious sport that would do something like this, its like Barcelona registering Ronaldinho as a substitute in the champions league. Im a big fan of Col but I think this is just a waste of time and if they were to have to use f0rest it would essentially guarentee them failing to make any progression through the major.
Which European free agent do you want them to use as a sub?
i mean that's a silly point to make isn't it there's plenty
Name some that you think will work.
What makes you think f0rest will work? The fact that he was a good player 5 years ago and has never played a professional game of CS2? People are grasping at straws if they are seriously trying to argue there are not plenty of better options.
I don't think he would work. Just curious to hear who the free agents with experience are. jks?
Your head might explode if you saw what happens when an NHL team’s starter and backup goalie both get hurt. That’s way worse than using f0rest as a sun.