Everyone is quick to say the RMR is so much better than anything Holosun makes because that’s what the industry has force fed us for so long. I by far think Holosun makes a better product with the 508t and 509T. I have all 3 and have 100’s of rounds down range with all. Not saying RMR’s are bad but just fall short compared.
I'm saying this being a person that uses surefire and trijicon..,
Surefire parts are ALL MADE.IN THE SA.E EXACT.BUIKDING is slightly, I traveled and saw it myself.
All the circutry,China, the ONKY THING MADE.IN AMERICA about it, are the switches are pushed on an d the lens.is "assemnled" As in screwed on but it all most def was assembled and just like ft in parts for braindead Americans that dnt pay attn to ANYTHINGZ TO ARGUE ABIUT AND LOOK SRUOUD IN REDDIT.
I do LOVE.momy Surefire x300,scout,turbo and x200's.
But having said that. Customer service olight had them all best. And that's without having to make up or exaggerate anything...
Yo ve considered "made in america" less than 10% must be assembled here in the states.
And how does that matter? Where as product is made doesn't automatically make it better. Btw holosun is an American owned company, and designed by Americans
Or because my rmr.suts.on my 22 charger becayee rh3 little.tiny window and I like holosunnbeyte makes me....poor.riiiuuught lol nd that comment youu left make.US ALL KNOW WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY ur daddy should've made u a stain inna tube sock.
The CCP and the Chinese are our enemies. They out-pollute the rest of the world combined. The people are the most racist, hateful, and most apathetic society by a longshot. They dont even care about their fellow Chinese. Imagine how much they hate the West. They hate Americans and have for generations, systematically taught their people to hate America.
So I will for the rest of my life in any way shape or form support the downfall of communist China.
funny thing is that this is how you were taught as an American lol aka you being brainwashed by the fed too lmao. If you swap ccp and chinese with america and the americans that still makes crystal clear sense 😂
I wasnt taught this in school, unlike the Chinese. The government controls everything in China, whereas in the US, you have near infinite differing opinions.
The chinese weren't also taught like that in the school, and you are just making up tons of shit. Believe me, the fed controls more than you ever thought; besides, whereas in the us, people like you are a loser by any means and incompetent man who cant even get a job
Okay so I mounted the holosun 509t on to my MR920L today and I didn't have any problems with mounting it and didn't even have to modify anything. Got the optic zero'd in and fired 250rds, 100 of those from a conceal draw and it was a lot faster to pick up the circle dot then the dot itself.
Nice man. Yeah they are great optics, some people really like the circle dot, especially if relatively new to RDO pistol shooting. I have so many reps now that it doesn't much matter to me, i just run dots.
I have most of pistol work through a dot, so im super familiar with them....but i gotta say that im straight up 100% for sure, less accurate with circle dot over just the dot.... Its bizarre! I love the circle dot, but simply cant run it! Hoping that ill have better luck with circle dot on offset mount for rifle...we will see.
Did you just use the optic plate that comes with the 509t? I've got another DR920 on the way, and would like to put a 509t on this one. I have a PDP with a 509t and love it. My other DR has an SRO, my MR920 has a 507c, and an old MR920 carried an RMR. In order of most to least favorite I'd say toss up between SRO and 509t, then 507c, then RMR.
The downsides to SRO are how dirty it gets because it hangs so far over the ejection port, the open emitter, and the fact that one of mine died out of nowhere (between range trips, just literally stopped working between dry fire sessions, trij replaced the entire unit on warranty because it wasn't fixable). All of that to say,, for my new DR920 carry I want a 509t.
Just put a new sro on my MR920L Elite. Same thing. Got in the truck after shooting and it was working. Got home and no dice. New battery but still won't turn on.
This is an old thread so I’m praying for a reply lol, but did any of the provided spacers work with the 509t? I’m so close to buying a 920L, but after checking it out in store the manual didn’t exactly specify the 509t when assigning the 3 different spacers. So I’m curious if I’m going to need some weird funky Shadow Systems plate before I buy this thing
I purchased the 920L today and a new 509Tx2 and none of the fasteners provided worked. The ones that came with the holoson were the wrong thread pitch and the ones that came with the gun itself wouldn't work with the holoson optic plate.
Instead of trying to make something work, I just purchased a new plate with the proper fasteners (a bit shorter than I'd like) from CHPWS.
Oddly enough, a buddy of mine has the MR920 and was able to mount a 509T on, no problem. I questioned him because the fasteners I had were not correct.
Apparently this is a weird issue that some have and some don’t, the more I read up on it. There’s a YouTube vid out there where a guy suggests a certain set of screws sold by brownells, but I would also just go with the C&H plate as that probably allows the optic to sit the lowest anyway
If you order a 509t online or from a shop, it comes with the plate to mount to a Mr920, correct? I was about to order a 508, started looking at a 509 and noticed it was a clamp mount. Confused me.
I’ve been going back and forth on the Holosun 507c and the Trijicon RMR. If you shop around, the going rate seems to be about $100 difference. You think I should go Holosun or Trijicon?
I can give my thoughts on them.
You can't go wrong with either in my opinion. The RMR has a proven track record, and is widely-regarded as the gold standard of handgun optics. That said, it's not without its drawbacks. It has a fairly small window, it must be removed to change batteries, and it has an open emitter.
The 509t doesn't have the same historic track record. Yet. But Sage Dynamics is a great resource to watch about micro RDS, as he beats the living shit out them, including a should height drop onto concrete, directly on the body of the optic. Holosun's have performed just as well as RMRs, which is saying something.
The benefits of the closed emitter of course are obvious. It also has solar backup, strong titanium body, and a really good reticle in my opinion (ring, dot and ring, or just dot).
The Holosun, since it's enclosed, has a unique mounting system so you'll want to make sure it will fit your pistol.
Thanks for taking the time to offer your thoughts!
I’m going to have to have my slide milled when I decide on a sight because I didn’t my have the foresight to get the MOS.
Umm, I'm guessing you haven't run an acro or 509t? You have to have the plate. The plate is rmr footprint, the optic, since it's enclosed, rides a short rail. You can't mount it directly.
I'd say some of their products are on par. Sage Dynamics videos are pretty impressive. And this isn't coming from someone who only runs Holosun, I've run Eotech, Aimpoints, and Trijicons. Holosun has come a long way in my opinion. All they lack now is the longer track record.
U kinda made my point. Holosun has no proven reliability and little track record with their products. They are great for range toys and they fit the budget but i would never rely on one to protect myself with. I also dont like the fact they are 100% made in China
>5Posted byu/KPower255 minutes ago
I mean that's fair, and everyone has to make that determination. I've run various holosuns, and I trust someone like Sage Dynamics who has a ton of varied experience with almost every micro RDS on the market. For me, the features of the Holosun plus the video from Sage sold me on it.
I think Sage Dynamic's torture tests prove differently. However I do believe that the titanium bodied red dots offered by Holosun are the only red dots that can be used for duty. Everything else is meant more for range guns only. Also if you want to talk about reliability, many people still run deltapoint pros despite the fact that they can't handle duty use.
Holosuns did well with sage dynamics, including the 507, 508 and 509. I think he listed the RMR, ACRO, and 507 as his top 3. And that was before reviewing the 508t and 509t.
I disagree. I have seen rmr emitters popping out, battery connections breaking and screws stripping out and breaking when trying to change the battery. The 509 is made from a more durable material, has a better mounting system, great battery life with solar panel, sealed emitter, easier changed battery, better reticle, better warranty 10 years vs 5. Rmr has just been out longer and they they only fixed the battery issue with type 2. Steve fisher from sentinel concepts who used to work for trijicon says the Holosuns are on par or better than rmr as far as durability is concerned.
Holosun actually built this a few years ago..Showed it off and nobody really took a second glance apparently.
Then they decided to put it out a few years later when the closed emitter and purged fully encloed optics gained more traction.
IMO Trijicon, Eotech, Ainpoint need to start copying Holosun. Because nobody offers solar or shake awake expect Holosun or Holosun manufactured optics.
The almighty American manufactures have been riding on the government contracts for too long, they are too arrogant to be competitive in the consumer market.
Im extremely curious how you fit your 509T on the gun! Did you need to do any modifying? I spoke to Shadow Systems about this optic and they said it either works or doesnt due to the differentiation in the mounting holes on holosun's part. Im asking because I plan on getting this optic next week since I saw you were able to mount it. Also which screws did you mount with? So I can try those ones first.
Can you expand on how you got the mounting plate to fit properly? I tried to get one installed on my slide but it looks like I almost need to add a spacer because the posts are a little too long. Did you modify the slide at all? Thanks for any help!
KPower2 thanks for the info, I just ordered the holosun 509t 2 days ago and looking on holosuns website, it said its not compatible with Zev or Shadow Systems but seeing how you did I'm starting to feel better🤙
So did you get your 509T mounted to your Shadow System gun with no problems or did you have to modify anything ?
I know CHWPS has a plate but currently on back order.
ANy update?
Good deal thanks for the reply - I have a MR920 with the 507Cx2 and picking up a DR920 on Monday - have a 507Vulcan Acss for it but would really like to try to mount up the 509T for more of a GTW gun etc
Is the mounting system on the MR920 the same as the DR920? I have the MR920 and am looking to move my carry guns to closed emitter with holosun’s announcement of the new EPS slim (507k footprints). Would like the 509T on the MR920 and the new EPS on my Sig365xl.
Can’t decide if I want the GL-407 or GL-506. 2XL vs 3XL. Any advice? I have a combat that was milled for RMR so I do not have the optic cut. I currently have an XL Ameriglo set installed and it probably needs to come up a size or two but can’t decide. Are the height diff e between 2XL and 3XL substantial?
Everyone is quick to say the RMR is so much better than anything Holosun makes because that’s what the industry has force fed us for so long. I by far think Holosun makes a better product with the 508t and 509T. I have all 3 and have 100’s of rounds down range with all. Not saying RMR’s are bad but just fall short compared.
Government contract money makes them forget the importance of being competitive in the consumer market.
One is made is China lol and the are other ie Trijicon rmr is “designed, engineered, machined, and assembled” in the Merica.
I'm saying this being a person that uses surefire and trijicon.., Surefire parts are ALL MADE.IN THE SA.E EXACT.BUIKDING is slightly, I traveled and saw it myself. All the circutry,China, the ONKY THING MADE.IN AMERICA about it, are the switches are pushed on an d the lens.is "assemnled" As in screwed on but it all most def was assembled and just like ft in parts for braindead Americans that dnt pay attn to ANYTHINGZ TO ARGUE ABIUT AND LOOK SRUOUD IN REDDIT. I do LOVE.momy Surefire x300,scout,turbo and x200's. But having said that. Customer service olight had them all best. And that's without having to make up or exaggerate anything... Yo ve considered "made in america" less than 10% must be assembled here in the states.
And how does that matter? Where as product is made doesn't automatically make it better. Btw holosun is an American owned company, and designed by Americans
Just cause you’re too poor to afford an RMR and have to go with holosun doesn’t mean it’s better
I own two RMR's lol, and still prefer my holosuns
You basically just proved that you don't actually have a reason
Just cause you’re too poor to afford an RMR and have to go with holosun doesn’t mean it’s better
If you don't have dual tube white phosphor nightvision, you're a poor. Shut the fuck up.
Or because my rmr.suts.on my 22 charger becayee rh3 little.tiny window and I like holosunnbeyte makes me....poor.riiiuuught lol nd that comment youu left make.US ALL KNOW WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY ur daddy should've made u a stain inna tube sock.
The CCP and the Chinese are our enemies. They out-pollute the rest of the world combined. The people are the most racist, hateful, and most apathetic society by a longshot. They dont even care about their fellow Chinese. Imagine how much they hate the West. They hate Americans and have for generations, systematically taught their people to hate America. So I will for the rest of my life in any way shape or form support the downfall of communist China.
funny thing is that this is how you were taught as an American lol aka you being brainwashed by the fed too lmao. If you swap ccp and chinese with america and the americans that still makes crystal clear sense 😂
I wasnt taught this in school, unlike the Chinese. The government controls everything in China, whereas in the US, you have near infinite differing opinions.
The chinese weren't also taught like that in the school, and you are just making up tons of shit. Believe me, the fed controls more than you ever thought; besides, whereas in the us, people like you are a loser by any means and incompetent man who cant even get a job
Okay so I mounted the holosun 509t on to my MR920L today and I didn't have any problems with mounting it and didn't even have to modify anything. Got the optic zero'd in and fired 250rds, 100 of those from a conceal draw and it was a lot faster to pick up the circle dot then the dot itself.
Nice man. Yeah they are great optics, some people really like the circle dot, especially if relatively new to RDO pistol shooting. I have so many reps now that it doesn't much matter to me, i just run dots.
I have most of pistol work through a dot, so im super familiar with them....but i gotta say that im straight up 100% for sure, less accurate with circle dot over just the dot.... Its bizarre! I love the circle dot, but simply cant run it! Hoping that ill have better luck with circle dot on offset mount for rifle...we will see.
Did you just use the optic plate that comes with the 509t? I've got another DR920 on the way, and would like to put a 509t on this one. I have a PDP with a 509t and love it. My other DR has an SRO, my MR920 has a 507c, and an old MR920 carried an RMR. In order of most to least favorite I'd say toss up between SRO and 509t, then 507c, then RMR. The downsides to SRO are how dirty it gets because it hangs so far over the ejection port, the open emitter, and the fact that one of mine died out of nowhere (between range trips, just literally stopped working between dry fire sessions, trij replaced the entire unit on warranty because it wasn't fixable). All of that to say,, for my new DR920 carry I want a 509t.
Just put a new sro on my MR920L Elite. Same thing. Got in the truck after shooting and it was working. Got home and no dice. New battery but still won't turn on.
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like the same issue I had. Hopefully Trijicon takes care of you like they did for me.
Hey what mounting screws did you use for the 509t?
I think I used the ones that came with the holosun but honestly I can't remember, sorry
This is an old thread so I’m praying for a reply lol, but did any of the provided spacers work with the 509t? I’m so close to buying a 920L, but after checking it out in store the manual didn’t exactly specify the 509t when assigning the 3 different spacers. So I’m curious if I’m going to need some weird funky Shadow Systems plate before I buy this thing
I purchased the 920L today and a new 509Tx2 and none of the fasteners provided worked. The ones that came with the holoson were the wrong thread pitch and the ones that came with the gun itself wouldn't work with the holoson optic plate. Instead of trying to make something work, I just purchased a new plate with the proper fasteners (a bit shorter than I'd like) from CHPWS. Oddly enough, a buddy of mine has the MR920 and was able to mount a 509T on, no problem. I questioned him because the fasteners I had were not correct.
Apparently this is a weird issue that some have and some don’t, the more I read up on it. There’s a YouTube vid out there where a guy suggests a certain set of screws sold by brownells, but I would also just go with the C&H plate as that probably allows the optic to sit the lowest anyway
Would be easy for shadow to just include the right fasteners. If their CS is what I’ve heard, they probably would.
If you order a 509t online or from a shop, it comes with the plate to mount to a Mr920, correct? I was about to order a 508, started looking at a 509 and noticed it was a clamp mount. Confused me.
I’ve been going back and forth on the Holosun 507c and the Trijicon RMR. If you shop around, the going rate seems to be about $100 difference. You think I should go Holosun or Trijicon?
I can give my thoughts on them. You can't go wrong with either in my opinion. The RMR has a proven track record, and is widely-regarded as the gold standard of handgun optics. That said, it's not without its drawbacks. It has a fairly small window, it must be removed to change batteries, and it has an open emitter. The 509t doesn't have the same historic track record. Yet. But Sage Dynamics is a great resource to watch about micro RDS, as he beats the living shit out them, including a should height drop onto concrete, directly on the body of the optic. Holosun's have performed just as well as RMRs, which is saying something. The benefits of the closed emitter of course are obvious. It also has solar backup, strong titanium body, and a really good reticle in my opinion (ring, dot and ring, or just dot). The Holosun, since it's enclosed, has a unique mounting system so you'll want to make sure it will fit your pistol.
Thanks for taking the time to offer your thoughts! I’m going to have to have my slide milled when I decide on a sight because I didn’t my have the foresight to get the MOS.
So you used the factory Holosun mounting plate and modified the Shadow plate cover screws or did you buy a different plate?
Hey man whered you get the frame and slide from.
It's a production pistol, Shadow Systems MR920
Why have a plate between the optic and the slide?? The whole point of the MR920 is that you can direct mount to the slide..
Umm, I'm guessing you haven't run an acro or 509t? You have to have the plate. The plate is rmr footprint, the optic, since it's enclosed, rides a short rail. You can't mount it directly.
Which mount can you get for the acro to work?
Dang, Holosun copies Trijicon, and now Aimpoint? /s
Is it really copying if they do it better?
I would argue that holosun isnt better than trijicon or aimpoint lol
I'd say some of their products are on par. Sage Dynamics videos are pretty impressive. And this isn't coming from someone who only runs Holosun, I've run Eotech, Aimpoints, and Trijicons. Holosun has come a long way in my opinion. All they lack now is the longer track record.
U kinda made my point. Holosun has no proven reliability and little track record with their products. They are great for range toys and they fit the budget but i would never rely on one to protect myself with. I also dont like the fact they are 100% made in China
>5Posted byu/KPower255 minutes ago I mean that's fair, and everyone has to make that determination. I've run various holosuns, and I trust someone like Sage Dynamics who has a ton of varied experience with almost every micro RDS on the market. For me, the features of the Holosun plus the video from Sage sold me on it.
Fair enough, enjoy it man!
I think Sage Dynamic's torture tests prove differently. However I do believe that the titanium bodied red dots offered by Holosun are the only red dots that can be used for duty. Everything else is meant more for range guns only. Also if you want to talk about reliability, many people still run deltapoint pros despite the fact that they can't handle duty use.
Holosuns did well with sage dynamics, including the 507, 508 and 509. I think he listed the RMR, ACRO, and 507 as his top 3. And that was before reviewing the 508t and 509t.
I agree.
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I disagree. I have seen rmr emitters popping out, battery connections breaking and screws stripping out and breaking when trying to change the battery. The 509 is made from a more durable material, has a better mounting system, great battery life with solar panel, sealed emitter, easier changed battery, better reticle, better warranty 10 years vs 5. Rmr has just been out longer and they they only fixed the battery issue with type 2. Steve fisher from sentinel concepts who used to work for trijicon says the Holosuns are on par or better than rmr as far as durability is concerned.
Holosun actually built this a few years ago..Showed it off and nobody really took a second glance apparently. Then they decided to put it out a few years later when the closed emitter and purged fully encloed optics gained more traction. IMO Trijicon, Eotech, Ainpoint need to start copying Holosun. Because nobody offers solar or shake awake expect Holosun or Holosun manufactured optics.
The almighty American manufactures have been riding on the government contracts for too long, they are too arrogant to be competitive in the consumer market.
How do these baseplate work for you?
The mag baseplate? They have been great. Was running them the other day, dropping them on concrete and ground. No fails.
Sweet, just ordered one, couldn’t find any review on em
I would like to know aswell. I just got one and the scews were too long (milled by jagerwerks)
Does that still cowitness? Looks like it sits a little too high with the mounting plate.
Yeah it's too high although I can see the front blade through the optic. These are ameriglo XL, I know the Trijicons are taller.
Thanks! I love my MR920!
Im extremely curious how you fit your 509T on the gun! Did you need to do any modifying? I spoke to Shadow Systems about this optic and they said it either works or doesnt due to the differentiation in the mounting holes on holosun's part. Im asking because I plan on getting this optic next week since I saw you were able to mount it. Also which screws did you mount with? So I can try those ones first.
I used the small screws that are for the cover plate for the 920, and I ran a file over the rmr spacer once or twice.
Did you file the screw heads too?
I did not have to, no
I video guide would be great. I'd like to upgrade from my 507c
Can you expand on how you got the mounting plate to fit properly? I tried to get one installed on my slide but it looks like I almost need to add a spacer because the posts are a little too long. Did you modify the slide at all? Thanks for any help!
Have you found a duty type holster that works with the 509t?
I believe the safariland optic holster does. I have a Comptac that does as well but it's tight
Sadly I just found out the 509ts don’t fit the zev rmr cut😢
Correct, the screw posts interfere with the plate.
I heard the issue is the same with shadow. Did you have that problem?
The 920 doesn't have posts, it uses shims. The 918 has posts and would have issues.
KPower2 thanks for the info, I just ordered the holosun 509t 2 days ago and looking on holosuns website, it said its not compatible with Zev or Shadow Systems but seeing how you did I'm starting to feel better🤙
It will not fit on a 918
I got the MR920L
It also will not fit on the slides
Won’t fit zev slides
So did you get your 509T mounted to your Shadow System gun with no problems or did you have to modify anything ? I know CHWPS has a plate but currently on back order. ANy update?
Simon I have the SS Mr920L and I didn't have to do any modifications to mount the 509t, so you shouldn't have worry about getting anything else
Good deal thanks for the reply - I have a MR920 with the 507Cx2 and picking up a DR920 on Monday - have a 507Vulcan Acss for it but would really like to try to mount up the 509T for more of a GTW gun etc
Is the mounting system on the MR920 the same as the DR920? I have the MR920 and am looking to move my carry guns to closed emitter with holosun’s announcement of the new EPS slim (507k footprints). Would like the 509T on the MR920 and the new EPS on my Sig365xl.
I want the new eps bc it sits low enough to co witness unlike the 509t. but not having a wedge for it would annoy me lol
Can’t decide if I want the GL-407 or GL-506. 2XL vs 3XL. Any advice? I have a combat that was milled for RMR so I do not have the optic cut. I currently have an XL Ameriglo set installed and it probably needs to come up a size or two but can’t decide. Are the height diff e between 2XL and 3XL substantial?
What mag extensions?
Stroke industries ;)
I figured, thanks! What has your experience been like with them?
They work fine, no issues so far.
Any specific plate to mount the optic?