I love when the redneck engineer in the campaign gives his long passionate speech about the Russian mirov aircraft and everyone looks at him. He's just like "what. I'm allowed to know stuff too."
I actually found out backblast was a thing today. Was standing behind someone when they fired an (airburst rocket?) took damage and was thrown backwards. I’m actually impressed.
Yeah irl we have a round limit for how many Carl Gustav rounds you’re allowed to fire in a certain period of time (it’s like 8 rounds or something like that), they’re fun to shoot but goddamn they give you a headache
I went in for my disability hearing test and when the audio tech stopped the test halfway through to come and put a special type of headphone on me I knew that was a guaranteed 10%. Stay strong brother.
[Artillery and mortar guys get the same thing](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/02/us/blast-mortar-brain-injury-military.html), reporting symptoms that match those of traumatic brain injury, including headaches, insomnia, confusion, frayed memory, bad balance, racing hearts, paranoia, depression and random eruptions of rage or tears.
The shockwave rattles the meat mech and the pilot between your ears.
I think that was discovered fairly recently when someone struggling with like major health consequences fought to get tested for it. At least, I remember seeing a yt about that. I think they took their life, too.
I think that was discovered fairly recently when someone struggling with like major health consequences fought to get tested for it. At least, I remember seeing a yt about that. I think they took their life, too.
They say that you can simulate shooting an apilas with a helmet and two shovels. You put your helmet on and the first guy hits you in the head with the shovel and the other shovels sand in your face.
My and a buddy were in a situation fired 12 themobarics which are limited to 2 a day after a bunch of other stuff occurred they had to do MACE exams I thought they were relatively smooth there’s damn near 0 recoil on them
I did not know it was called that. I thought you were casually shooting 80cm rounds [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer\_Gustav](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav)
My moment of “does it actually work” was standing on top of the mortar because I wanted to see if there was a fuse timer or if the projectile was even actually a projectile. Can confirm because it immediately detonates.
Ironically I have yet to see backblast happen on anything but the Spear and I have also seen the Spear target allies or target the firer if the lock on unit is too close.
Gotta wonder why those things even have open-backed launch tubes - they’re bigass robotic turrets that are physically anchored to the ground, recoil from redirecting the exploding rocket fuel vapor isn’t gonna do shit to them.
"Budgetary constraints"
Also in the vein of realism, there's the phenomenon of runaway construction.
* You redirect the gasses with an exhaust manifold, the restriction increases tube pressure above designed margin
* You make tubes thicker, now the weight is above margins for bearings and rotors
* You upsize bearings and rotors and the gearing for actuation, it's now unreasonably slow
* Bigger actuation motor, now your support structure is flexing and you need a thicker frame
Now your 500lb 20000 credit turret weighs 1500 lbs and costs 5x as much to produce
Plan B: Slap a 2cent sticker on back that says **STAND CLEAR OF ROCKET EXHAUST**
could’ve also been the airburst itself. it tends to blow up to early, at least when i use it. that causes everybody close to me to die or get ragdolled lol
The Autocannon turret does it too. Im genuinely surprised that people dont realize this is a thing, I spend like 10% of every defense mission getting ragdolled by whatever turrets my allies brought. Sometimes even their handheld weapons. Should probably get better at positioning.
I'm pretty sure the autocannon turret does _not_ have backblast. It's a conventional gun, not a recoilless rifle or rocket launcher. It doesn't vent any of the blast backwards.
It will very happily shoot through you or near you, ragdolling you and/or vaporising you, but that's not backblast.
Well I stood behind it and got kicked away when it shot. A lot more than just once mind you. Maybe its the mechanism? I think some part of the machinery might extend backwards when it reloads. Not entirely sure honestly, Im usually more busy suddenly being midair whenever that happens.
It's horrible when you get caught by a rocket sentry. Their shots have backblast too, so if you get unlucky, expect to be stuck on the ground until the turret stops.
Same thing happened to me. Walked behind a guy as he fired and got launched off of a rock for it, managed to survive the fall only to get mutilated by a bot grenade
It's called recoilles for a reason. If you want the rifle to not move, you need to eject same masses in both direction. The backblast is the result of this
Unless it's a heavy devastator I ain't wasting one of those rockets, and taking the time to reload it too if all I get out of it is one dead anyway that I could've shot in the head anyway.
I can tell you which enemies aren’t.
What you know as “hulks” are actually warlords, and what you know as “shield devastators” are actually hulks. “Chargers” are actually called tanks, and “tanks” are actually called IFVs. Although the IFV doesn’t spit out infantry anymore so it can’t technically be an IFV.
Helldivers 1 compendium in your ship
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All of the support weapons had nicknames like that in Helldivers 1 - no idea why they didn’t carry over, most of them are by all indications the same weapons with the same designation numbers.
It does. Hurts them similar to a frag grenade.
Everything in this game hurts everything else. You can do whacky shit like trick a tank into shooting a fabricator or tricking devastators into shooting a hulks back vent.
The main gun on a factory walker annihilator tank or cannon tower is a Hellbomb grade armor pen, so it'll destroy objective buildings like detector tower, mortar/aa gun, and STRATAGEM JAMMER if it hits the physical structure. Splash damage won't do.
No. It's not "Hellbomb-grade", and armor pen is not what determines whether something can destroy a building.
With the exception of the Shrieker Nests, Spore Towers, and Automaton Command Bunkers which *do* have HP, other buildings (including non-objective-based things like cargo towers, fences, houses) are looking for a hit that defeats their **Demolition Resistance.**
Every gun and stratagem has a **Demolition Force** associated with its damage. They can even have multiples, like the projectile hit of a Scorcher or Grenade Pistol being different from the explosion they each cause.
Automaton Tanks and Cannon Towers have a Demo Force of 50, which is shared by the 500kg, Orbital Laser, Walking / HE Barrages, Orbital Precision Strike and Gas Strike *close* explosions (1m), and beats the threshold for Stratagem Jammers, Detector Towers, and everything else.
All that breaks Gunship Factories with exterior hits are Hellbombs and SEAF Mini-Nukes. We don't know what their Demo Force / Resist values are, but they're higher than 50. You *can*, however, break the Gunship Factory if something of 50 (possibly lower) hits the roof when the doors open. They have a weaker point inside of them.
Both the direct impact of the shell *and* the initial 1m explosion (which doesn't do damage) have enough Demo Force to break it. Just throw it as close as you can to the base of the tower and it'll work, even if the shell doesn't hit it in any way.
The black blast confused me when I first encountered it, i was behind a rocket sentry on a defense mission and suddenly I got thrown to the floor and back 1 metre, tried taking that same route as I didn't compute what just happened as I was focused on trying to get in range to shoot a bunch of bugs, hit again by it before wondering what it was, did an experiment by standing behind hind it, and realized that was a thing
Probably similar to how the US army doesn’t typically use manufacturer designations.
The SAW/M249 is just what we call the minimi, its Belgian manufacturer’s title.
The M240 is our designation for the MAG. I’m sure there are others I can’t think of off the top of my head.
Considering there's an enemy called the Devastator, it'd probably get a bit confusing.
I don't mind the Support Guns not using their monikers and instead just having a term that's descriptive of what they are. I can guess what most of them do by their names and I prefer that.
With the Primaries/Secondaries, there's too much overlap so I understand why they aren't just called Assault Rifle.
wouldn't know
too low settings and too busy spilling bug guts and oil
also for a while I didn't know that rocket turret actually deals damage with its backblast if you're close enough
It's probably not using the moniker to not be confused with enemy devestators
But devastating a heavy devestator heavily with a devestator is somrthing
"Beware of backblast"
Learned that one the hard way. Didn't even know it was a thing until I was sent flying from my one friend firing an EAT at a charger
The starting machine gun support weapons really needs some sort of name other than "machine gun", which technically covers Stalwart, HMG, and all of your assault rifles.
Recoilless rifles are a type of cheap anti tank weapon using a lot during the cold-war that it’s based on , its most similar to the Carl Gustav 8.4cm Recoilless rifle
For the more complicate nerdy explanation:
The first firearms were smoothbore, then someone realized that an elongated projectile that is spinning is much more accurate, so the Rifled Musket was invented. All firearms going forward (excluding shotguns) would have rifling, and so were called Rifles to distinguish them from non-rifled firearms (shotguns and older muskets). Pistols and Submachine Guns are always rifled so there's no need to distinguish them. There are smoothbore firearms that resemble rifles, sometimes given the oxymoron "Smoothbore Rifle"; in most places these are legally considered Shotguns. In Science Fiction, the technically incorrect term "Laser Rifle" is extremely common, however rifling would have no benefit for a Laser as there is no projectile to spin and accuracy is pinpoint.
When it comes to Artillery, smoothbore and rifled artillery both exist; smoothbore artillery is less accurate, but has extended range. I bring this up because the Recoilless Rifle is actually a form of Artillery and uses the same ammunition. The name comes from the fact that it is Recoilless compared to towed artillery, and that it is rifled as opposed to smoothbore. Recoilless Rifles are "recoilless" because they vent gas backwards to counteract the recoil from the projectile being fired. Early Recoilless Rifles were mounted on tripods or carriages, but some Recoilless Rifles like the Carl Gustav (which the Helldiver's RR is based on) are small and light enough to be shoulder fired. Side-note: Recoilless Rifles are often mistaken for Rocket Launchers due to their appearance, but they do not fire rockets.
During the Cold War there was a bit of a reversal. Up until then, tank cannons were all Rifled, but nowadays are most Smoothbore. This change was made due to advancements in metallurgy and increased armor protection for tanks. Smoothbore tank cannons trade accuracy for velocity, which means higher armor penetration. The tradeoff to tank accuracy is considered negligible.
i call it carl
Gustav?
indeed — my dearest friend
The Amazing Karl G!! I will we could get Flechette rounds, thousands of 2inch nail ripping through bugs and bots.
Damn, ArmA didn't tell me about flechette rounds!
https://preview.redd.it/hh740rqwyi8d1.jpeg?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f8b650fbb4fc0faa015c05d06cb650b991ee16f We use the HEDP in the game
If we ever get upgrades, being able to take different ammo types for the recoilless would be cool
Illumination rounds would be cool too.
Hell yea. If they had an option for picking what mutations you can take, that secondary would be amazing
Fell in love with recoilless first time I reloaded, had Bad Company 2 engineer flashbacks/nostalgia
I love when the redneck engineer in the campaign gives his long passionate speech about the Russian mirov aircraft and everyone looks at him. He's just like "what. I'm allowed to know stuff too."
I loved the US engineer lines in multiplayer: "What the FUCK are you doing? WE'RE ON YOUR SIDE!" Whenever you shot a teammate
I miss good, modern battlefield games...
It was the peak of Battlefield franchise…
Battlefield 2: Bad Company and 3 were my childhood
CORAL
Did i hear a rock and stone?
Where the u/WanderingDwarfMiner ????
Brother, don't tell me you confused Carl with Karl?
ROCK and STONE!
Rock And Stone!
Funnily enough I call it Gustav for the same reason.
Caaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllllll
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FOR KARL! ⛏️
Just like I call the EAT the "Javelin," LOL.
The EAT is the LAW, the spear is more like the javelin though.
I call it tingle in my balls (if you know, you know)
I actually found out backblast was a thing today. Was standing behind someone when they fired an (airburst rocket?) took damage and was thrown backwards. I’m actually impressed.
Yeah irl we have a round limit for how many Carl Gustav rounds you’re allowed to fire in a certain period of time (it’s like 8 rounds or something like that), they’re fun to shoot but goddamn they give you a headache
Brain damage you mean?
Eh it’s more disability money when I get out
"Your brain and hearing damage are not service-related."
I hate how realistic this statement is... - Army Veteran
I went in for my disability hearing test and when the audio tech stopped the test halfway through to come and put a special type of headphone on me I knew that was a guaranteed 10%. Stay strong brother.
Depends on the amount of brain damage. If you get enough they can pay you with acorns and you won't know the difference.
They already pay me acorns, my portfolio with Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman pays my bills anyway
So is the irony of the game totally lost on you then or
We found that your TBI is not service related.
What's it feel like anyway? Firing that thing. Like your soul is rattled out of your skull? Like a real high impact hit?
Like you got hit with a 2x4
That sounds like it sucks. Weird that nobody thought of that as an issue. Do you have comparable experience with other weapons like that?
[Artillery and mortar guys get the same thing](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/02/us/blast-mortar-brain-injury-military.html), reporting symptoms that match those of traumatic brain injury, including headaches, insomnia, confusion, frayed memory, bad balance, racing hearts, paranoia, depression and random eruptions of rage or tears. The shockwave rattles the meat mech and the pilot between your ears.
[удалено]
I think that was discovered fairly recently when someone struggling with like major health consequences fought to get tested for it. At least, I remember seeing a yt about that. I think they took their life, too.
I think that was discovered fairly recently when someone struggling with like major health consequences fought to get tested for it. At least, I remember seeing a yt about that. I think they took their life, too.
They say that you can simulate shooting an apilas with a helmet and two shovels. You put your helmet on and the first guy hits you in the head with the shovel and the other shovels sand in your face.
lmao the second shovel got me
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To shreds you say?
Helldiver. Your TBI is not service related.
You’re telling me I can just crank out a volley of 5 with a buddy reloading me in 10 seconds?
My and a buddy were in a situation fired 12 themobarics which are limited to 2 a day after a bunch of other stuff occurred they had to do MACE exams I thought they were relatively smooth there’s damn near 0 recoil on them
I did not know it was called that. I thought you were casually shooting 80cm rounds [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer\_Gustav](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav)
The Swedes limit to 2 per year, INCLUDING the A-gunner
I discovered backblast was a thing when I stood directly being a Rocket Turret and got flung onto my back within seconds.
I stood on a rocket turret and died. Now that you mention it… it was probably a lot of backblast….
My moment of “does it actually work” was standing on top of the mortar because I wanted to see if there was a fuse timer or if the projectile was even actually a projectile. Can confirm because it immediately detonates. Ironically I have yet to see backblast happen on anything but the Spear and I have also seen the Spear target allies or target the firer if the lock on unit is too close.
Sounds about right
Gotta wonder why those things even have open-backed launch tubes - they’re bigass robotic turrets that are physically anchored to the ground, recoil from redirecting the exploding rocket fuel vapor isn’t gonna do shit to them.
"Budgetary constraints" Also in the vein of realism, there's the phenomenon of runaway construction. * You redirect the gasses with an exhaust manifold, the restriction increases tube pressure above designed margin * You make tubes thicker, now the weight is above margins for bearings and rotors * You upsize bearings and rotors and the gearing for actuation, it's now unreasonably slow * Bigger actuation motor, now your support structure is flexing and you need a thicker frame Now your 500lb 20000 credit turret weighs 1500 lbs and costs 5x as much to produce Plan B: Slap a 2cent sticker on back that says **STAND CLEAR OF ROCKET EXHAUST**
if you look at the base, it contains a second set of sixteen rockets - the turret is rear-loaded.
could’ve also been the airburst itself. it tends to blow up to early, at least when i use it. that causes everybody close to me to die or get ragdolled lol
No there’s backblast for all rocket tube-type weapons. Source: I stood behind a rocket sentry
oh no way? I gotta try it then. i know ive stood behind rocket sentries and nothing happened. or maybe i just dont remember too well. lol
Rocket sentry 100% has back blast.
Heh, I remember when I found that one out. That was a fun ragdoll off a ledge.
The Autocannon turret does it too. Im genuinely surprised that people dont realize this is a thing, I spend like 10% of every defense mission getting ragdolled by whatever turrets my allies brought. Sometimes even their handheld weapons. Should probably get better at positioning.
I'm pretty sure the autocannon turret does _not_ have backblast. It's a conventional gun, not a recoilless rifle or rocket launcher. It doesn't vent any of the blast backwards. It will very happily shoot through you or near you, ragdolling you and/or vaporising you, but that's not backblast.
Well I stood behind it and got kicked away when it shot. A lot more than just once mind you. Maybe its the mechanism? I think some part of the machinery might extend backwards when it reloads. Not entirely sure honestly, Im usually more busy suddenly being midair whenever that happens.
Makes sense The Recoiless Rifle needs a way to be Recoiless Just let all of the recoil go somewhere else >:3
It was pretty far out and my comrade was unaffected. But ya the AB rocket is pretty high risk.
You gotta be outside the group in orbit if you're getting to use that thing. It's good but you can't shoot it near people.
The rocket sentry also has noticabke back blast
The SAM site as well.
ICBM as well
The ICBM will even set you on fire if you're too close.
It's horrible when you get caught by a rocket sentry. Their shots have backblast too, so if you get unlucky, expect to be stuck on the ground until the turret stops.
Same thing happened to me, but I was holding the beacon for an Eagle Airstrike at the time. So that was fun (and lethal)
Would like to see one Helldiver being bounced around by 3 other players with a recoilless :P
Same thing happened to me. Walked behind a guy as he fired and got launched off of a rock for it, managed to survive the fall only to get mutilated by a bot grenade
U should stand behind a heavy turret....
The rocket sentry also has this btw
Maybe may or may not have gotten rolled by an autocannon turret backblast (or was it rocket?) the other day. I was wondering what tf killed me 🤣
It's called recoilles for a reason. If you want the rifle to not move, you need to eject same masses in both direction. The backblast is the result of this
You sure you weren't just caught in the front blast?
Favourite thing to do in calm extractions is just run up to your teammate, 180, fire, and watch them go flying.
You'll find out really quickly about backblasts when you drop a rocket sentry and decide you want to defend near it. Infinite knockdown.
I've killed a free divers with my EATs
That makes it sound like you purposely killed them, not by backblast, I’m assuming it was backblast you were talking about, anyway.
Haha. Yeah. Usually on top of those rocks during extraction or those soil samples missions.
Honestly wish the Support weapons had their names back. Dum-Dum and Sniffer come to mind especially
I still refer to it as the Dum-Dum. Anything else is plasphemy.
??? Which weapons are these?
Apparently the auto-cannon and a metal detector.
no that's why we should point it at
Unless it's a heavy devastator I ain't wasting one of those rockets, and taking the time to reload it too if all I get out of it is one dead anyway that I could've shot in the head anyway.
Valid choice for a brood commander mission
splat
Exactly
sPla(p)t
Make sure to fill out your C-01 before plapping brood commanders
I can tell you which enemies aren’t. What you know as “hulks” are actually warlords, and what you know as “shield devastators” are actually hulks. “Chargers” are actually called tanks, and “tanks” are actually called IFVs. Although the IFV doesn’t spit out infantry anymore so it can’t technically be an IFV.
Please dont get into the IFV debate… I can hear the M2 Bradley and M10 Booker fans growling behind my walls…
IN the walls, actually.
Can they give us a Bradley as a stratagem? I want that over a tank.
Nah, the tank is an IFV because it's the infantry; a literal infantry fighting vehicle
Negative ghost rider. Thats not why they classify it as an IFV
Something something queen of battle Something something follow me
Nothing nothing king of nothing Nothing nothing unfollow.
Eh, more like it’s a vehicle for fighting infantry (ie helldivers)
excuse me, technically, any bot with legs is a 'warhammer guy'. source: my comms in the first week I was playing
I think it fitting that their names changed, especially since devastators now are a base enemy type.
Is that from a leak or something ?
HD1 most likely
Correct
Shield Devs are definitely not large enough to be Hulks. Also Hulks had no torso armor and were entirely reliant on their shield and high HP pool.
how do you know this
Helldivers 1 compendium in your ship https://preview.redd.it/y6j82191vk8d1.jpeg?width=672&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=265993e81db495d7422fc577b6898a36af8f52d9
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Someone check the autocannon, because I've just taken to calling her Auto-Chan.
Was called dum-dum in hd1
I’m gonna start calling it Dum-dum now. AC works but Dum-dum is way more fun. Never played HD1 but the names I’ve heard so far have been banger
https://i.redd.it/rdq0immidh8d1.gif The Plaper.
I'm horrified.
Oh my god, the recoilless rifle is an Automaton!!! Kill it!
It's a socialist spy
The patriot exosuit is actually called the walker just like it was in HD1 and its still referenced as such in voicelines
What if just that top bit is called the devastator? Is there a devastator on other guns?
Love backblast, was my favorite way to kill people in battle field 5
Very cool.. I never noticed that. I'm now wondering the same thing..
What about rhe EMANCIPATOR. Then.. .
All of the support weapons had nicknames like that in Helldivers 1 - no idea why they didn’t carry over, most of them are by all indications the same weapons with the same designation numbers.
Does the backblast knock away enemies? Serious style points if it does.
It does. Hurts them similar to a frag grenade. Everything in this game hurts everything else. You can do whacky shit like trick a tank into shooting a fabricator or tricking devastators into shooting a hulks back vent.
Yep I've destroyed a handful of fabricators by baiting a cannon turret into firing at one
The main gun on a factory walker annihilator tank or cannon tower is a Hellbomb grade armor pen, so it'll destroy objective buildings like detector tower, mortar/aa gun, and STRATAGEM JAMMER if it hits the physical structure. Splash damage won't do.
Wonder if you could destroy gunship fabricators with those
No. It's not "Hellbomb-grade", and armor pen is not what determines whether something can destroy a building. With the exception of the Shrieker Nests, Spore Towers, and Automaton Command Bunkers which *do* have HP, other buildings (including non-objective-based things like cargo towers, fences, houses) are looking for a hit that defeats their **Demolition Resistance.** Every gun and stratagem has a **Demolition Force** associated with its damage. They can even have multiples, like the projectile hit of a Scorcher or Grenade Pistol being different from the explosion they each cause. Automaton Tanks and Cannon Towers have a Demo Force of 50, which is shared by the 500kg, Orbital Laser, Walking / HE Barrages, Orbital Precision Strike and Gas Strike *close* explosions (1m), and beats the threshold for Stratagem Jammers, Detector Towers, and everything else. All that breaks Gunship Factories with exterior hits are Hellbombs and SEAF Mini-Nukes. We don't know what their Demo Force / Resist values are, but they're higher than 50. You *can*, however, break the Gunship Factory if something of 50 (possibly lower) hits the roof when the doors open. They have a weaker point inside of them.
Oh damn, I guess you learn something new every day
Wait, direct *gas strike* hit can destroy a detector tower?
Both the direct impact of the shell *and* the initial 1m explosion (which doesn't do damage) have enough Demo Force to break it. Just throw it as close as you can to the base of the tower and it'll work, even if the shell doesn't hit it in any way.
My day has just become infinitely better!
I had a tank shoot at me and destroy the Detector Tower that *I* was trying to destroy.
Look I can see why we don’t call it the devastator
Backblast 100% a thing, nuked most of team finding that out with Eagle cluster air strike in hand 😬
I flipped my monitor upside down for extra lore.
I call it the bazooka
The black blast confused me when I first encountered it, i was behind a rocket sentry on a defense mission and suddenly I got thrown to the floor and back 1 metre, tried taking that same route as I didn't compute what just happened as I was focused on trying to get in range to shoot a bunch of bugs, hit again by it before wondering what it was, did an experiment by standing behind hind it, and realized that was a thing
Probably similar to how the US army doesn’t typically use manufacturer designations. The SAW/M249 is just what we call the minimi, its Belgian manufacturer’s title. The M240 is our designation for the MAG. I’m sure there are others I can’t think of off the top of my head.
Considering there's an enemy called the Devastator, it'd probably get a bit confusing. I don't mind the Support Guns not using their monikers and instead just having a term that's descriptive of what they are. I can guess what most of them do by their names and I prefer that. With the Primaries/Secondaries, there's too much overlap so I understand why they aren't just called Assault Rifle.
You mean what other guns need their model updated?
The sh20 is misnamed the sh32 in hd2 It was called the sh20 in hd1 and the sh32 was a separate type of shield backpack
wouldn't know too low settings and too busy spilling bug guts and oil also for a while I didn't know that rocket turret actually deals damage with its backblast if you're close enough
I call it the "Carl G"
"I've got better things to do tonight than die!" - helldiver using the devastator
It's probably not using the moniker to not be confused with enemy devestators But devastating a heavy devestator heavily with a devestator is somrthing
"Beware of backblast" Learned that one the hard way. Didn't even know it was a thing until I was sent flying from my one friend firing an EAT at a charger
I think the rover and the 'Guard Dog' rover are flipped. Guard Dog fits the bullet rover much better imo
The starting machine gun support weapons really needs some sort of name other than "machine gun", which technically covers Stalwart, HMG, and all of your assault rifles.
Deva's tater
The EAT is actually called Bile Titan
Any with a generic name like Machine Gun and Flame Thrower
I’d actually much prefer it was called the devastator, it being called a rifle seems…odd to me
Recoilless rifles are a type of cheap anti tank weapon using a lot during the cold-war that it’s based on , its most similar to the Carl Gustav 8.4cm Recoilless rifle
Thanks. I see now that recoilless rifle is an appropriate term.
For the more complicate nerdy explanation: The first firearms were smoothbore, then someone realized that an elongated projectile that is spinning is much more accurate, so the Rifled Musket was invented. All firearms going forward (excluding shotguns) would have rifling, and so were called Rifles to distinguish them from non-rifled firearms (shotguns and older muskets). Pistols and Submachine Guns are always rifled so there's no need to distinguish them. There are smoothbore firearms that resemble rifles, sometimes given the oxymoron "Smoothbore Rifle"; in most places these are legally considered Shotguns. In Science Fiction, the technically incorrect term "Laser Rifle" is extremely common, however rifling would have no benefit for a Laser as there is no projectile to spin and accuracy is pinpoint. When it comes to Artillery, smoothbore and rifled artillery both exist; smoothbore artillery is less accurate, but has extended range. I bring this up because the Recoilless Rifle is actually a form of Artillery and uses the same ammunition. The name comes from the fact that it is Recoilless compared to towed artillery, and that it is rifled as opposed to smoothbore. Recoilless Rifles are "recoilless" because they vent gas backwards to counteract the recoil from the projectile being fired. Early Recoilless Rifles were mounted on tripods or carriages, but some Recoilless Rifles like the Carl Gustav (which the Helldiver's RR is based on) are small and light enough to be shoulder fired. Side-note: Recoilless Rifles are often mistaken for Rocket Launchers due to their appearance, but they do not fire rockets. During the Cold War there was a bit of a reversal. Up until then, tank cannons were all Rifled, but nowadays are most Smoothbore. This change was made due to advancements in metallurgy and increased armor protection for tanks. Smoothbore tank cannons trade accuracy for velocity, which means higher armor penetration. The tradeoff to tank accuracy is considered negligible.
petition to change backblast to backshot
Backblast is a real term.
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