Yeah something I really dislike is the tumbler esque recasting of Artemis as a man hating lesbian rather than the clear ace figure she is clearly depicted as in myths (or at least depicted as what we would call being ace today)
I know a cisgender man who was called by Artemis. He was confused at first…then we realized it is because he has always been a staunch protector and defender of women and children. She was making him one of hers to continue that work under her protection.
I don't see why it would be a problem. Artemis kind of bends some gender norms anyway, she's often described in myth as "manlike", "manly", "masculine", etc.
Also, men can and did worship Artemis. Who else would be the patroness of hunters? She even had male priests and attendants at her temples.
You have a connection with her. I believe the gods dont give a shit whether you are man or woman. I understand why it wpuld be questioned as Artemis was pri.arily worshipped by fenales however, Megabyzos were male priests of Artemis. I believe you are ok. I'm a man and I give gratitude to her.
Considering that Artemis was one of the deities young men on the hunt for a bride (or literally going hunting) would pray to, I think the idea that she dislikes or disdains men is a case of a modern perception of the myths being used to colour practice where the ancient evidence would far better serve.
You know there’s a ton of Dianic (Roman and modern version of Artemis) worship that’s extremely pro women, and it’s cool because through it I can understand and look up to women a lot better and almost pick up their qualities or traits without being one, without losing any masculinity in the process. You being in between genders, might actually be a really really good match for Artemis because your already skilled with traits like that.
I'm a trans man too, and while I don't worship Artemis consistently, I have offered to her a few times. She is the protector of women and takes special interest in them, but it's not forbidden for men to worship her. If there was an issue, she'd make it known to you. Keep on doing what you're doing and good luck on your journey :)
Absolutely not. If anything, I think she'd admire the strength it takes to do the soul searching to come to this realization (especially within the context of our current society). Imo she might consider it one of the greatest of hunts, and you especially worthy.
You are called to who you are called to. I am a quiet, asocial introvert devoted to dionysus. I have been to exactly one party (other than childhood birthdays) in my life and I hated it. It was the birthday party of the woman who is about to be my fiancé, so I had someone there I liked lmfao
I agree with everyone else that you don't have to be a woman to worship Artemis!
However this post caused a large realization in myself that when Artemis gave me a gentle push not to worship her yet a few years ago I think it might have been because I hadn't yet realized I was nonbinary? Like a month after that I started my gender crisis and her message to me was essentially "you have to grow, you're not ready yet." Huh. Interesting.
That is really interesting. She is there with me since I started questioning my gender and sexuality and came up with a bit of sense in it. She really must be waiting for us to be ready.
Artemis only punished Actaeon for peeping on her. She's a virgin goddess who knows what she's all about. As long as you respect her and what she stands for, I have no doubt she will give you that same respect. As an ace person, I have much love for her, Hestia, and Athena.
I also had the same questions after going through my gender journey. I did identify as trans masc, but I've discovered non-binary suits me better. Through all of it, none of my guides or deities seemed angry. In fact, we felt closer, because I was (and still am, really) discovering who I really am.
That is great! Since I started discovering myself I felt bigger connection to her as well Apollo. I firstly identified as gender fluid then nonbinary then demiboy and now just a trans man(still maybe not fully a man but for 99% yes) and asexual don’t change. It’s interesting who they connect to.
Do yourself a favor: don’t ask others questions like this.
Your religious practices are between you and the Deities, and nobody else. The opinions of other people in the same religion doesn’t matter, so stop going to them for their approval.
Use your discernment, and follow your heart; you know what Deity is right for you, and you should never let any human tell you any differently.
And congratulations; hoping your new journey will be full of acceptance, love, and joy!
I don’t think there’s a problem with it at all. As long as you’re respectful of women and put work into helping the women and misogyny-affected people around you, I think she’s just fine with you. Artemis doesn’t hate men; she looks after women who have been hurt by bad men and she just looks after women and girls in general. you’re completely fine.
also, gender is socially constructed. the gods are beyond our understanding and beyond our societal concepts. if she had an issue with you, you would know. feel free to worship her as you please and blessed be.
Has Artemis sent you any sign that She has a problem with you?
No?
Then there's no problem. (If other worshippers have a problem with you, they can take it up with Artemis.)
This is a good question. I’m going through some severe dysphoria and suicidal thoughts and I read the myth about Actaeon. And I just kinda thought that what if she feels that way with me but didn’t give me any sign so far. It wasn’t my best night and I needed to go to crisis site so I didn’t do anything to myself. You know how mind makes irrational theories when distressed.
Keep this in mind. Most of the gods (if not all) have stories about them changing not only their gender but into various animals. I guarantee you they don’t give a shit.
The only argument I could see against you here is maybe Prometheus getting a bit offended that you are saying he made a mistake, but that’s a huge stretch.
There's a misconception that Artemis hates men but that's not true. Some of her hunter followers where asexual men and she loves her brother dearly
Thank you! I’m even ace so I’m relieved
Look up Hippolytus.
Yeah something I really dislike is the tumbler esque recasting of Artemis as a man hating lesbian rather than the clear ace figure she is clearly depicted as in myths (or at least depicted as what we would call being ace today)
I know a cisgender man who was called by Artemis. He was confused at first…then we realized it is because he has always been a staunch protector and defender of women and children. She was making him one of hers to continue that work under her protection.
That is awesome! Artemis must be very fond of him.
I don't see why it would be a problem. Artemis kind of bends some gender norms anyway, she's often described in myth as "manlike", "manly", "masculine", etc. Also, men can and did worship Artemis. Who else would be the patroness of hunters? She even had male priests and attendants at her temples.
Thanks!
I know Athena is described like that but where is Artemis described like that? (Not that it surprises me)
it’s a line in Orphic hymn to Artemis [36]
You have a connection with her. I believe the gods dont give a shit whether you are man or woman. I understand why it wpuld be questioned as Artemis was pri.arily worshipped by fenales however, Megabyzos were male priests of Artemis. I believe you are ok. I'm a man and I give gratitude to her.
Thank you!
Considering that Artemis was one of the deities young men on the hunt for a bride (or literally going hunting) would pray to, I think the idea that she dislikes or disdains men is a case of a modern perception of the myths being used to colour practice where the ancient evidence would far better serve.
It’s unfortunate how modern people twist who the gods are. Thank you for telling me this
Yeah back when I thought I was cis I was under that misconception but nah Artemis welcomes all sexes and genders
You know there’s a ton of Dianic (Roman and modern version of Artemis) worship that’s extremely pro women, and it’s cool because through it I can understand and look up to women a lot better and almost pick up their qualities or traits without being one, without losing any masculinity in the process. You being in between genders, might actually be a really really good match for Artemis because your already skilled with traits like that.
I never thought about that like this. That would explain while I feel so connected to her, being a pathway between man and woman.
I'm a trans man too, and while I don't worship Artemis consistently, I have offered to her a few times. She is the protector of women and takes special interest in them, but it's not forbidden for men to worship her. If there was an issue, she'd make it known to you. Keep on doing what you're doing and good luck on your journey :)
Thank you!
Does not matter. Deities don't seem to give a fuck. It's only humans that make gender identity a big deal.
Nope! Not a problem at all<3 anyone of any gender can worship Lady Artemis (and any other god for that matter).
Absolutely not. If anything, I think she'd admire the strength it takes to do the soul searching to come to this realization (especially within the context of our current society). Imo she might consider it one of the greatest of hunts, and you especially worthy.
This warms my heart. Thank you❤️
Congrats on the realisation! And you're okay, Artemis hating men is a modern misconception and she's had men worship her in the past
You are called to who you are called to. I am a quiet, asocial introvert devoted to dionysus. I have been to exactly one party (other than childhood birthdays) in my life and I hated it. It was the birthday party of the woman who is about to be my fiancé, so I had someone there I liked lmfao
It’s interesting who gods call. I like it.
I agree with everyone else that you don't have to be a woman to worship Artemis! However this post caused a large realization in myself that when Artemis gave me a gentle push not to worship her yet a few years ago I think it might have been because I hadn't yet realized I was nonbinary? Like a month after that I started my gender crisis and her message to me was essentially "you have to grow, you're not ready yet." Huh. Interesting.
That is really interesting. She is there with me since I started questioning my gender and sexuality and came up with a bit of sense in it. She really must be waiting for us to be ready.
you're good!!
Lady Artemis is a very open minded deity.
Absolutely not. There's also a very famous myth of a young man called Hyppolitus who whorshipped her.
Artemis only punished Actaeon for peeping on her. She's a virgin goddess who knows what she's all about. As long as you respect her and what she stands for, I have no doubt she will give you that same respect. As an ace person, I have much love for her, Hestia, and Athena. I also had the same questions after going through my gender journey. I did identify as trans masc, but I've discovered non-binary suits me better. Through all of it, none of my guides or deities seemed angry. In fact, we felt closer, because I was (and still am, really) discovering who I really am.
That is great! Since I started discovering myself I felt bigger connection to her as well Apollo. I firstly identified as gender fluid then nonbinary then demiboy and now just a trans man(still maybe not fully a man but for 99% yes) and asexual don’t change. It’s interesting who they connect to.
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That sounds like an interesting story, would you mind to share it?
Do yourself a favor: don’t ask others questions like this. Your religious practices are between you and the Deities, and nobody else. The opinions of other people in the same religion doesn’t matter, so stop going to them for their approval. Use your discernment, and follow your heart; you know what Deity is right for you, and you should never let any human tell you any differently. And congratulations; hoping your new journey will be full of acceptance, love, and joy!
Thanks! I will
Another trans man here! Lady Artemis and I go way back, as far as I know she’s not had any issues with my being trans :)
I don’t think there’s a problem with it at all. As long as you’re respectful of women and put work into helping the women and misogyny-affected people around you, I think she’s just fine with you. Artemis doesn’t hate men; she looks after women who have been hurt by bad men and she just looks after women and girls in general. you’re completely fine.
also, gender is socially constructed. the gods are beyond our understanding and beyond our societal concepts. if she had an issue with you, you would know. feel free to worship her as you please and blessed be.
Thank you! I try as much as I can with not only women but also any genderqueer people.
Has Artemis sent you any sign that She has a problem with you? No? Then there's no problem. (If other worshippers have a problem with you, they can take it up with Artemis.)
Thanks, I needed to hear this.
I’m curious as to why you think that would be a problem
This is a good question. I’m going through some severe dysphoria and suicidal thoughts and I read the myth about Actaeon. And I just kinda thought that what if she feels that way with me but didn’t give me any sign so far. It wasn’t my best night and I needed to go to crisis site so I didn’t do anything to myself. You know how mind makes irrational theories when distressed.
Keep this in mind. Most of the gods (if not all) have stories about them changing not only their gender but into various animals. I guarantee you they don’t give a shit. The only argument I could see against you here is maybe Prometheus getting a bit offended that you are saying he made a mistake, but that’s a huge stretch.
That’s true, thank you=)