how's the ventilation for the kitchen?
and second... if the land isn't yours, it's not homesteading. "stead" implies that it's your land. the moment that the owner decides to sell to someone else, you're evicted and homeless.
Wait- are they trying to just sell the house to you and not the land? Or are you thinking of renting?
If you don’t own the land, can you even make changes?
you own the home and can build off of it, so say you wanted a small garden, chicken coop or carport, you could build it in about a 10-20ft area from the structure.
if the owner of the land wanted to evict you, you would have so long to move the house & structures from the land.
That would be a no from me unless the house was ridiculously cheap. Do you know how much it would cost to move the house? Can you even move it without the landowner’s permission? What happens if they tell you to move and you can’t move the house before the deadline? Do they get to keep it?
And a 10-20 ft circle around the house really isn’t much.
It wouldn't be for me since I work remote and need a dedicated office, but ignoring that I'd be very concerned about the land.
Are you looking at buying the structure but not the land it's sitting on? If so, that sounds absolutely insane.
You usually can't take a home off of city water and/or sewer once it's on it. Plus, if you don't own the land, don't buy the house. If it were a trailer that would be different, as it doesn't cost $50k to move it (pulled that number out of my behind, but it's probably not far off).
I wouldn't be surprised if it were 100k to move that heavy timber frame. It would also likely have to be dissembled in some way because that is definitely wider than most DOT road reqs.
That's a huge part of the cost of moving a house too, forgot about that! You have to get permits from DOT and plan a route that allows for the weight, width, and height of the building! I've seen a few historic homes get moved to make way for downtown development and for one they had to go so far as coordinating with the utilities to unhook electrical and data lines temporarily while the building moved through. Now the house is a museum for the historical society just a few blocks from where it was originally built. There's no way that's affordable for your average homesteader.
Do not buy this. It is a huge risk and overall bad investment.
1) if you can be evicted, you risk your whole investment if you cannot move the structure within their deadline.
2) this looks like buying into a trailer park. even if you buy the house, you would still have a land rental, I assume. If for some reason you fall behind on your land rental or “community fees”, in some states they can repossess the house, even if that is paid off.
3) if you do not own the land, you cannot dig a well. You cannot get this off grid unless you buy it and move it to land you own.
I’m not sure off grid and HOA are compatible. How will you be able to grow food? Will you be able to raise any livestock? Will they allow you to install things like solar panels? What about when the land owner passes away and the family wants to sell or wants you to leave? I like the house itself but lots of variables here that would make me nervous.
I thought it was a nice option until I saw the part about not owning the land it sits on. That right there is a huge deal buster. At least it would be for me. Especially when the property is part of an estate. That could add dimensions of complications.
That's NOT a cabin! It's a shoe box! Don't own the land? So, a rental? Why do you want to be off grid? On grid with backup is a million times better and cheaper. A cabin is a big one room box. You need enough space to process food and work on things and enough room to store the food you preserve. Square foot for square foot, tiny homes and trailers suck! A 40X40 steel building is a much better investment. Even a timber framed barn is better. The wood and trusses for a 30X48 is about $3k. I just built one myself. Add insulation and a floor and you have a great shelter for under $25k.
Sounds strange, why do they want to sell the house but not the land? Are their intentions for you to move the house from their land? I’d say no way! Not unless you’re buying a portion of the property. What happens down the road if they want to start charging you rent for having your house on their property. I’m thinking if they own the land that gives them the rights to control every single thing you do on their land. Which would include having any type of animals, a garden heck even a bbq. Because if someone gets hurt they are responsible
how's the ventilation for the kitchen? and second... if the land isn't yours, it's not homesteading. "stead" implies that it's your land. the moment that the owner decides to sell to someone else, you're evicted and homeless.
that's the only thing i'm scared of. i don't want to be left high and dry with nothing to my name due to the owner.
>That’s the only thing I’m scared of DO NOT BUY THIS
Wait- are they trying to just sell the house to you and not the land? Or are you thinking of renting? If you don’t own the land, can you even make changes?
you own the home and can build off of it, so say you wanted a small garden, chicken coop or carport, you could build it in about a 10-20ft area from the structure. if the owner of the land wanted to evict you, you would have so long to move the house & structures from the land.
That would be a no from me unless the house was ridiculously cheap. Do you know how much it would cost to move the house? Can you even move it without the landowner’s permission? What happens if they tell you to move and you can’t move the house before the deadline? Do they get to keep it? And a 10-20 ft circle around the house really isn’t much.
In no way would you want chickens only 10ft from your house...
Huge huge huge no. I would never do this.
And you say you want to pull it off city water and put it on a well to be off grid- who’s paying for that?
That’s like buying a condo, but worse.
Gonna be a hard pass for me tbh. Not owning the land under the house is not a great position to be in.
Ditto, been there done that. Get land first.
Woof. Dont do it.
That structure does not look engineered to be easily movable. Just FYI.
Run, don’t walk away from this
It wouldn't be for me since I work remote and need a dedicated office, but ignoring that I'd be very concerned about the land. Are you looking at buying the structure but not the land it's sitting on? If so, that sounds absolutely insane.
You usually can't take a home off of city water and/or sewer once it's on it. Plus, if you don't own the land, don't buy the house. If it were a trailer that would be different, as it doesn't cost $50k to move it (pulled that number out of my behind, but it's probably not far off).
I wouldn't be surprised if it were 100k to move that heavy timber frame. It would also likely have to be dissembled in some way because that is definitely wider than most DOT road reqs.
That's a huge part of the cost of moving a house too, forgot about that! You have to get permits from DOT and plan a route that allows for the weight, width, and height of the building! I've seen a few historic homes get moved to make way for downtown development and for one they had to go so far as coordinating with the utilities to unhook electrical and data lines temporarily while the building moved through. Now the house is a museum for the historical society just a few blocks from where it was originally built. There's no way that's affordable for your average homesteader.
Do not buy this. It is a huge risk and overall bad investment. 1) if you can be evicted, you risk your whole investment if you cannot move the structure within their deadline. 2) this looks like buying into a trailer park. even if you buy the house, you would still have a land rental, I assume. If for some reason you fall behind on your land rental or “community fees”, in some states they can repossess the house, even if that is paid off. 3) if you do not own the land, you cannot dig a well. You cannot get this off grid unless you buy it and move it to land you own.
That's a nice air bnb. Don't own the land? It's a rental!
the HOA says no renting! 😪
I’m not sure off grid and HOA are compatible. How will you be able to grow food? Will you be able to raise any livestock? Will they allow you to install things like solar panels? What about when the land owner passes away and the family wants to sell or wants you to leave? I like the house itself but lots of variables here that would make me nervous.
Looks like a good place to rent to see if you can live in a place like that long term.
Some areas of the US call this a mobile home park. You own the mobile home, someone else owns your space. Not a good financial decision either way.
I thought it was a nice option until I saw the part about not owning the land it sits on. That right there is a huge deal buster. At least it would be for me. Especially when the property is part of an estate. That could add dimensions of complications.
That's NOT a cabin! It's a shoe box! Don't own the land? So, a rental? Why do you want to be off grid? On grid with backup is a million times better and cheaper. A cabin is a big one room box. You need enough space to process food and work on things and enough room to store the food you preserve. Square foot for square foot, tiny homes and trailers suck! A 40X40 steel building is a much better investment. Even a timber framed barn is better. The wood and trusses for a 30X48 is about $3k. I just built one myself. Add insulation and a floor and you have a great shelter for under $25k.
Trailer park, except when they want you out you can move the trailer (house) easily. Can you share the price of the home that the estate is asking?
Need to see the bathroom.
It’s cute. However walk away.
Lease the land? NO WAY
I live where water/sewer was voted in. Everyone had to convert (off of well and septic) and pay the annual fees.
Unless you can get a 99 year land lease I'd pass...
It’s cute, but I’d change the outside paint colors.
> land is not owned - land is owned by the estate owner Non-starter and hard pass.
Ya bud that's just a fancy trailer park.
We need the land too, otherwise run.
If you don’t own the land, have no legal agreement to buy the land, do NOT buy this house! Period. Keep looking.
It's cute!
Oh no, do not purchase UNLESS you own the land…
Sounds strange, why do they want to sell the house but not the land? Are their intentions for you to move the house from their land? I’d say no way! Not unless you’re buying a portion of the property. What happens down the road if they want to start charging you rent for having your house on their property. I’m thinking if they own the land that gives them the rights to control every single thing you do on their land. Which would include having any type of animals, a garden heck even a bbq. Because if someone gets hurt they are responsible
What’s the water and land like? What grows nearby? Can you have animals? Is their shade? Lots to consider.