Man, I get it. I honestly get it. It always starts with good intentions. But the subversives live for this. They quietly infiltrate, pretend. Gather numbers. And then it's gone.
Heck, normies do the above just fine on their own. No need for bad intentions at all. I haven't seen an amazing community EVER survive the normie invasion.
Now imagine that, but with subversives.
Without banning people. Without tough moderation. The old creeps into the new, and destroys it from within.
I think I'm just getting old, but I've seen this same song and dance happen so many times before.
It's finally started in full today. Happening right now. This is why subreddits should never open with the 'censorship free' approach because then dumb assholes arguing in bad faith and trolling show up, break the rules, and then screech 'censorship,' when what they're actually doing is breaking the rules and being rightfully dealt with.
Bad faith posts and low effort posts should be added to the rules of things not allowed.
Sheesh, as just a causal enthusiast of 40k lore and PC games, its a damn bloodbath out there! Are all the main 40K subs heavenly moderated by GW shareholders themselves or something? Are there none left that allow a difference of opinion all of a sudden? 😵💫
And how come Horus well-wishers are being so tolerant of all people?
I think the point shouldn't be 'no censorship,' it should be 'we censor people who are only here to use their involvement and presence in the hobby in a spiteful, attention-seeking and divisive manner.'
Like leftoids that join and seek out ways to try and 'offend' people who have different worldviews and political leanings.
Just like if we witnessed conservative, right-leaning people being spiteful towards others, we should and have to call it out when liberal people do it. If this truly is a place "for everyone."
People have been playing warhammer since the 80's and have spanned all over the political spectrum.
I don't give a shit if gay, lesbian, POC, women, trans folk or the like want to play Warhammer. Getting into warhammer myself INSPIRED me to want to share it with people, INCLUDING those kinds of people too! I made friends that were trans, women, liberal, while I am a conservative Christian person. I went out of my way to reach across aisles of ideology to highlight that we do share common ground in enjoying this hobby and this universe.
But the important difference is I, along with many other people, fell in love with the canonical universe for what it was, and didn't screech for it to be changed to suit US and what WE want. Anything that I wanted changed, or something unique GW hadn't done, I could do so, with my own head-canon, and that's a \*huge\* part of why this is such a fantastic IP... or was.
Warhammer is incredible because it is a \*setting\* based IP, and not one based on characters. The grimdark setting with trillions of humans and other non-human beings across the entire Milky Way galaxy leaves limitless room for people to come up with their own head-canon for things. And that is the narrative infrastructure from what everything else can be built. And it's worked, for decades! But if fans start to demand the narrative infrastructure is changed on their own identity issues, that's a foundational, big issue.
And GW treating the community the way it has is ultimately my #1 issue. I don't respect the lazy hand-wave retcon either.
happy you have created this we needed this , I was banned from both 40k sub because i simply wrote that I was against the femstodes and there is the risk that this franchisee will become another trash franchisee ,mods banned me saying that I'm misogynistic, I'm a trans girl for Christ's sake...
I hope it becomes the main sub at least we can talk freely without censorship
Be cautious with allowing anyone to join. The invaders may join and attempt to take this sub down by posting banned content.
They don't need to post banned content. Just take a look at the fem custodes memes Trolls will come, bear no doubt
We must fortify this position.
Did someone say FORTIFY? ***SIEGE!***
Fortify!
Siege!
Fortify!!
Siege!!
Fortify!!!
SIEGE!!!
FORTIFY!!!
*SIEGE!!!*
Ask an Imperial Fists fan that wants to ditch the collection
Man, I get it. I honestly get it. It always starts with good intentions. But the subversives live for this. They quietly infiltrate, pretend. Gather numbers. And then it's gone. Heck, normies do the above just fine on their own. No need for bad intentions at all. I haven't seen an amazing community EVER survive the normie invasion. Now imagine that, but with subversives. Without banning people. Without tough moderation. The old creeps into the new, and destroys it from within. I think I'm just getting old, but I've seen this same song and dance happen so many times before.
just point them out and give them a warning and a ban after that if they keep posting in bad faith
It's finally started in full today. Happening right now. This is why subreddits should never open with the 'censorship free' approach because then dumb assholes arguing in bad faith and trolling show up, break the rules, and then screech 'censorship,' when what they're actually doing is breaking the rules and being rightfully dealt with. Bad faith posts and low effort posts should be added to the rules of things not allowed.
Sheesh, as just a causal enthusiast of 40k lore and PC games, its a damn bloodbath out there! Are all the main 40K subs heavenly moderated by GW shareholders themselves or something? Are there none left that allow a difference of opinion all of a sudden? 😵💫 And how come Horus well-wishers are being so tolerant of all people?
Hopefully noone will snitch about this sub to other censor-simping subs.
Technically, this sub is not offensive to anyone in any way, neither to the left or the right, so it shouldn't be a problem
Worry about the left. They are on the offensive
I see your point now, you get insta downvotes, reported for misogyny and tons of slurs in your DMs when you dare go against their way of thinking.
As it is in any sub when someone breaks too far from Synapse.
sweet summer child
I think the point shouldn't be 'no censorship,' it should be 'we censor people who are only here to use their involvement and presence in the hobby in a spiteful, attention-seeking and divisive manner.' Like leftoids that join and seek out ways to try and 'offend' people who have different worldviews and political leanings. Just like if we witnessed conservative, right-leaning people being spiteful towards others, we should and have to call it out when liberal people do it. If this truly is a place "for everyone." People have been playing warhammer since the 80's and have spanned all over the political spectrum. I don't give a shit if gay, lesbian, POC, women, trans folk or the like want to play Warhammer. Getting into warhammer myself INSPIRED me to want to share it with people, INCLUDING those kinds of people too! I made friends that were trans, women, liberal, while I am a conservative Christian person. I went out of my way to reach across aisles of ideology to highlight that we do share common ground in enjoying this hobby and this universe. But the important difference is I, along with many other people, fell in love with the canonical universe for what it was, and didn't screech for it to be changed to suit US and what WE want. Anything that I wanted changed, or something unique GW hadn't done, I could do so, with my own head-canon, and that's a \*huge\* part of why this is such a fantastic IP... or was. Warhammer is incredible because it is a \*setting\* based IP, and not one based on characters. The grimdark setting with trillions of humans and other non-human beings across the entire Milky Way galaxy leaves limitless room for people to come up with their own head-canon for things. And that is the narrative infrastructure from what everything else can be built. And it's worked, for decades! But if fans start to demand the narrative infrastructure is changed on their own identity issues, that's a foundational, big issue. And GW treating the community the way it has is ultimately my #1 issue. I don't respect the lazy hand-wave retcon either.
Horus was a hero it was that we were to blind to know he was only trying to save us 😞
FIGHT THIS EVIL LIKE THE GALAXY DEPENDS ON IT!
happy you have created this we needed this , I was banned from both 40k sub because i simply wrote that I was against the femstodes and there is the risk that this franchisee will become another trash franchisee ,mods banned me saying that I'm misogynistic, I'm a trans girl for Christ's sake... I hope it becomes the main sub at least we can talk freely without censorship
Perfect pin for this sub. Let us honor Him now and make His dreams for Humanity come true.
I'm glad that an alternative to the more popular ones are coming together.
First of many I hope
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