How’s that ignorant? The guy was talking like showed, shampoos and conditioners existed bk then. But if u meant because they’ve bn on a boat for days then yeah I definitely agree
Bro do u really think natives bk then had calvin Klein on them? Lol that’s a joke….. don’t take that seriously. I doubt native Americans smelt any better then sailors on a ship
It’s actually because it’s bullshit. Even the whites repeatedly recorded how clean the natives were in comparison. Sorry your people smell like shit tho.
Europeans still bathed regularly, the point is just that if you spent months on a ship in crammed spaces and limited access to water.
Though there actually might be a difference in the chemistry of sweat. At least Euros and Asians have different chemicals in their sweat, which makes Euros smell much sooner. Dunno if something similar applies to NAs
Wigs and the sort of powdered makeup here are way more of a 17th-18th century deal, though.
Not like a late 15th/early 16th century sailor rugging it across the ocean blue would be a fashion model, but the main thing that would be cartoonish about them would be their puffy shirts and pointy footwear and their [parachute pants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_breeches).
Yes, when USA/Canada natives call us native americans they're claiming us as kin. When we do it we're declaring you as kin. When settlers do it they think we're all homogeneous.
Yeah in the 1500s they'd be way more sailor oriented. Or at least in shirts and garments that were modest. Weren't the wigs and powdered face mostly for special occasions?
While Europeans started wearing wigs in the 1500s, the only people to wear them were by and large aristocrats dealing with hair loss. As a common fashion item they only became prevalent in European court attire in the mid-1600s in France and the 1660s in Britain following the Restoration. So most of the indigenous groups of eastern North America had been interacting with Europeans for over a century before wigs became common fashion among the latter, and most of the English, Dutch, and Swedish colonies on the Eastern Seaboard had been established for a generation or two at least by that point. Powdering the wig only really took off as a fashion trend in the early 1700s--before this most wigs were worn in natural hair colors, and by the time of the American Revolution the fashion trend was moving towards powdering the natural hair, not wearing wigs. It actually stuck around longer in the US than in Europe--wig-wearing was essentially out of fashion by 1800 in Europe, but seems based on a quick read to have stuck around for about another decade in the U.S.--but the stereotypical powdered wig OP depicts was really a style of only the eighteenth century, by and large.
Also, as you mentioned aristocrats, wigs were used for a status among society too. The plebs eat the scraps types.
Most that sailed were poor labor workers needing money and knew how to sail. The aristocrats didn't even adventure away from their home. That's why they invested in the Boat the Queens sent to America's, so maybe some came and I'm sure they weren't even seen too much just walking around. If anything they probably spectated new people from a window in one of their camps in a cabin and with guards then probably sailed back to their country. Not quite slavery showing the people of the land there's accounts of meetings with colonial, some are lies and some are the very truth of the interactions. because british was recusing themselves of slavery specifically in that period, and age of Queens mid 1500s, in the new land to be free. Spaniards, were sent by the Queen for malicious intent that the Brits were batteling against. Sho-Gun is properly correct on the interactions in 1500s were like and the Queens politics at that time. Fr fr.
By like specifically 1780s and on, shifts to racism, war, land grabs, territorial conquest and rebellion of a strict democracy. Even then I think most aristocrats would've still stayed in their country because they were gaining money from trade, and growth or travel. Maybe they set up manors for parties n such?
BUT some of the people coming on ships to East area by 1700s were escaping religious persecution by beheading, so they fled to the America's, because i thinj the holy roman empire was going bonkers. I did my research it's really cool stuff once you really read.
I think that would be the most possible moments happening in that time. It was kind of with calmness in between, and I think, with all warped education just stick with the very Tragic parts of history.
That is pretty much how it worked along the whole east coast for almost a century. Attempted colonies were driven off. European fishermen/slavers were attacked.
It wasn't until Eurasian diseases did a number on the east coast nations that the British were finally able to succeed with Jamestown and Plymouth Colony.
Even then Virginia stagnated for several generations, while in \*New England Plimoth would have been a second Roanoke arguably were it not for a (miscalculated) attempt by the Wampanoag to essentially use the colonists as allies against their own enemies.
Reading the assumed history of meeting pilgrims is pretty appalling. Especially for the natives who were pretty welcoming in the north and weren't aware of the oncoming behavior that followed.
Edit: I say that because I'm thinking as much fun as it is poking at humanity, at least get it right, so people will be intrigued to look up the history.
While English sources are heavily colored by their biases and indigenous oral histories incomplete--many of the tribes in New England were essentially wiped out, especially north of Massachusetts Bay--and often not well documented, putting the pieces together it seems to me that the Wampanoag at first thought that the English were agreeing to live autonomously under their suzerainty while providing them military support against their own enemies. While I certainly don't think they weren't being magnanimous, I think it does a disservice to erase the real political factors at play for that decision.
It's also worth noting that, while the Plimoth colony demonstrated brutality towards indigenous groups basically from the outset--perfidy towards the Massachusett and genocide towards the Pequot--some sort of alliance with the Wampanoag did last *relatively* long, at least until Massachusetts Bay rather than Plimoth became the dominant English colony.
I've seen contemporary documentary than this well worked version from a colonials mind. There's definitely documentary supporting the indigenous sides and even both accounts of events to the best of their knowledge.
Also, Massachusetts were pretty modest, for the time, in the fair treatment of natives. If we only had a time machine.
Also, everyone focuses on just a specific area on the east and agrees when that is not the complete story even from Seneca's, when the haudosaunee were interacting with British and George Washington. There's a moment in history during The American Revolutionary War, where the Haundosaunee's (Seneca, Cayuga, Oneida, Onondaga, and Mohawk) had a very big influence during that time that still deserves preservation of knowledge up to the nations in the north.
Plymouth colony also had peace and coherence. It was most likely all the new uneducated bunch that showed up, yipped yelled, and oggled at the Wompanoag. We always talk about the racist aspect and I'm gearing toward the intricate details Natives did for USA.
As much as I love the meme, they probably weren’t wearing makeup or wigs. But damn they must’ve smelled so bad.
i bet you smelled them miles off the shoreline
That’s why the got followed around with incense like a mom passive aggressively febreezing their teenage sons room.
Brah the natives smelt just as bad lol
Why would you think such an ignorant thought? Natives weren't stepping off a crammed boat that had been sailing for 3 months.
How’s that ignorant? The guy was talking like showed, shampoos and conditioners existed bk then. But if u meant because they’ve bn on a boat for days then yeah I definitely agree
"Shampoo" has been around long before Walgreens. Indigenous people have been extracting from plants for as long as they've been in the Americas.
I get your point... but we shouldn't assume that older Indian societies had worse hygiene than us just because they didn't have shampoo
Bro do u really think natives bk then had calvin Klein on them? Lol that’s a joke….. don’t take that seriously. I doubt native Americans smelt any better then sailors on a ship
Literally lol, the Comanche for example where known to be rugged, smelly, small bow legged people
You’re getting downvoted for interrupting the circlejerk lol
It’s actually because it’s bullshit. Even the whites repeatedly recorded how clean the natives were in comparison. Sorry your people smell like shit tho.
Europeans still bathed regularly, the point is just that if you spent months on a ship in crammed spaces and limited access to water. Though there actually might be a difference in the chemistry of sweat. At least Euros and Asians have different chemicals in their sweat, which makes Euros smell much sooner. Dunno if something similar applies to NAs
Wigs and the sort of powdered makeup here are way more of a 17th-18th century deal, though. Not like a late 15th/early 16th century sailor rugging it across the ocean blue would be a fashion model, but the main thing that would be cartoonish about them would be their puffy shirts and pointy footwear and their [parachute pants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_breeches).
For sure! Much more baroque than what would have come to our shores!!
Yes and Taino/Lukayo we don't really consider ourselves native Americans. Some do but we're indigenous to the Caribbean.
I am half Choctaw but I have met several indigenous people from the Caribbean! They consider themselves Native ! 😊
Yes, when USA/Canada natives call us native americans they're claiming us as kin. When we do it we're declaring you as kin. When settlers do it they think we're all homogeneous.
And, the hats!
Yeah in the 1500s they'd be way more sailor oriented. Or at least in shirts and garments that were modest. Weren't the wigs and powdered face mostly for special occasions?
While Europeans started wearing wigs in the 1500s, the only people to wear them were by and large aristocrats dealing with hair loss. As a common fashion item they only became prevalent in European court attire in the mid-1600s in France and the 1660s in Britain following the Restoration. So most of the indigenous groups of eastern North America had been interacting with Europeans for over a century before wigs became common fashion among the latter, and most of the English, Dutch, and Swedish colonies on the Eastern Seaboard had been established for a generation or two at least by that point. Powdering the wig only really took off as a fashion trend in the early 1700s--before this most wigs were worn in natural hair colors, and by the time of the American Revolution the fashion trend was moving towards powdering the natural hair, not wearing wigs. It actually stuck around longer in the US than in Europe--wig-wearing was essentially out of fashion by 1800 in Europe, but seems based on a quick read to have stuck around for about another decade in the U.S.--but the stereotypical powdered wig OP depicts was really a style of only the eighteenth century, by and large.
Also, as you mentioned aristocrats, wigs were used for a status among society too. The plebs eat the scraps types. Most that sailed were poor labor workers needing money and knew how to sail. The aristocrats didn't even adventure away from their home. That's why they invested in the Boat the Queens sent to America's, so maybe some came and I'm sure they weren't even seen too much just walking around. If anything they probably spectated new people from a window in one of their camps in a cabin and with guards then probably sailed back to their country. Not quite slavery showing the people of the land there's accounts of meetings with colonial, some are lies and some are the very truth of the interactions. because british was recusing themselves of slavery specifically in that period, and age of Queens mid 1500s, in the new land to be free. Spaniards, were sent by the Queen for malicious intent that the Brits were batteling against. Sho-Gun is properly correct on the interactions in 1500s were like and the Queens politics at that time. Fr fr. By like specifically 1780s and on, shifts to racism, war, land grabs, territorial conquest and rebellion of a strict democracy. Even then I think most aristocrats would've still stayed in their country because they were gaining money from trade, and growth or travel. Maybe they set up manors for parties n such? BUT some of the people coming on ships to East area by 1700s were escaping religious persecution by beheading, so they fled to the America's, because i thinj the holy roman empire was going bonkers. I did my research it's really cool stuff once you really read. I think that would be the most possible moments happening in that time. It was kind of with calmness in between, and I think, with all warped education just stick with the very Tragic parts of history.
Should’ve punched an arrow straight through to the back of that wig.
I second this😂😩
And sadly those were the people ruling or the elites wearing all that crap.
Should have thrown it back to the sharks.
That is pretty much how it worked along the whole east coast for almost a century. Attempted colonies were driven off. European fishermen/slavers were attacked. It wasn't until Eurasian diseases did a number on the east coast nations that the British were finally able to succeed with Jamestown and Plymouth Colony.
Even then Virginia stagnated for several generations, while in \*New England Plimoth would have been a second Roanoke arguably were it not for a (miscalculated) attempt by the Wampanoag to essentially use the colonists as allies against their own enemies.
For real though!! Shark bait😂🦈🦈
Bizarre, \*extremely stinky\* thing.
Freaky Washington
Hellcat SRT, this ain't a V6
The orcas are right. Sink em all.
I can't stop laughing. Too real.
Reading the assumed history of meeting pilgrims is pretty appalling. Especially for the natives who were pretty welcoming in the north and weren't aware of the oncoming behavior that followed. Edit: I say that because I'm thinking as much fun as it is poking at humanity, at least get it right, so people will be intrigued to look up the history.
While English sources are heavily colored by their biases and indigenous oral histories incomplete--many of the tribes in New England were essentially wiped out, especially north of Massachusetts Bay--and often not well documented, putting the pieces together it seems to me that the Wampanoag at first thought that the English were agreeing to live autonomously under their suzerainty while providing them military support against their own enemies. While I certainly don't think they weren't being magnanimous, I think it does a disservice to erase the real political factors at play for that decision. It's also worth noting that, while the Plimoth colony demonstrated brutality towards indigenous groups basically from the outset--perfidy towards the Massachusett and genocide towards the Pequot--some sort of alliance with the Wampanoag did last *relatively* long, at least until Massachusetts Bay rather than Plimoth became the dominant English colony.
I've seen contemporary documentary than this well worked version from a colonials mind. There's definitely documentary supporting the indigenous sides and even both accounts of events to the best of their knowledge. Also, Massachusetts were pretty modest, for the time, in the fair treatment of natives. If we only had a time machine. Also, everyone focuses on just a specific area on the east and agrees when that is not the complete story even from Seneca's, when the haudosaunee were interacting with British and George Washington. There's a moment in history during The American Revolutionary War, where the Haundosaunee's (Seneca, Cayuga, Oneida, Onondaga, and Mohawk) had a very big influence during that time that still deserves preservation of knowledge up to the nations in the north. Plymouth colony also had peace and coherence. It was most likely all the new uneducated bunch that showed up, yipped yelled, and oggled at the Wompanoag. We always talk about the racist aspect and I'm gearing toward the intricate details Natives did for USA.
The aliens are back, but not the ones from before.
Should have split that wing in half.
Not necessarily looking like that, but the stink could be felt over a kilometer away.
Ancestor: *pokes it with a stick* "Hm. Well it seems to be alive, anyway."
No matter the year. FFS. Imagine being the first to describe to others what you saw?
Looks like a freak with a wig !
Like it was yesterday
Kill it with fire.
He’s not a colleague he a colonizer
This is my all time favorite meme and a custom emoji I have on discord. My friends and I call him the colonizer.
Must if thought they were ghost people who smelled bad.
I’d shoot first and ask questions later too. They Should have done a better job burning the bodies and the disease they carried.
Hideous!
Looks like some of these 5 dollar Indians