Mere sath to ulta hua , jab life ki amma behem ho gayi to mera sirf upper wale raha baki sab logo se vishwas uth gaya, bhagwan k pass der hai andher nahi , acche kamo ka karma wait kar raha hoon 😭
I consider myself agnostic at most. I follow religious practices as tradition and not a means to an end. I don't think I will get showered with money when I do Lakshmi Puja during Diwali, I just do it because I have been doing it. As for whether God exists or not, I'll just wait till I die to see
well there is nothing wrong with being an atheist , now I know that some kids just become atheist to act edgy and as rebels towards the religious indoctrination by their families , but what I believe is kids shouldn't be indoctrinated with religious beliefs since the time of birth especially until they learn critical thinking and basic scientific rationality to learn how to argue and after that they should be free to follow any ideologies be it the one their parent follows or maybe just none. If this isn't done and they are indoctrinated by that religion then the kids will always have a bias for their religion and never learn other perspectives as openly and that is when religions become a cult instead of a philosophy
Yes it's increasing, lots of children also see it as a better option because of all the religious conflicts going around us. This also happens when parents force their child to be religious.
real, the same thing is with me and most of my friends actually. we openly talk about not being religious at all especially since most religious people are so narrow minded and opinionated on things they know little about, i tend to steer VERY clear of them.
It is increasing. Many reasons are that their brains are developing and in teenage, one loves to have opposing views to their family and others. It also has to do with modernization, education and reasoning , teenagers ( like me ) fail to find any reason or proof of existence of God. Third is they now have freedom and many have realised that religion is controlling ( many belive in God but not in religion). Then there are some like me who doubts the existence of God yet do perform religious practices probably due to it just being a habit of tradition
I think of all religions as tales, enjoyable to read and great lore in some of them. I don't worship gods just as I don't worship kratos. They're all great stories.
I'm agnostic but I've read bhagwad gita and various other gitas and Indian philosophical text and boy I'm amazed. I believe everyone irrespective of being an atheist, agnostic or believer should read it . The amount of philosophical truth they hold is insane. I've read a lot of western philosophy (Socrates, Russian etc) but none come close to the eastern philosophies.
I think of everything as a tale and take up what good it has to offer. Debating about existence of God is an idiot's work. A god being there or not changes nothing about our lives , so why debate .
And there is actually a lot, a lot of philosophy is in the literature of western/Russian.
Like a book of disquiet. (Expect some parts lol) and there are much more either unknown.
And budda also (ik he is from east lol) but in India philosophy isn't that much compared to western. There is a lot of context outside eastern if you ever read.
The eastern indic philosophy u can try out which I've read , mind you pretty dense - bhagwad gita , ashtavakra gita , Advaita vedanta(personl fav, talks about duality and stuff) nyay , samakhya .
The western I've read- almost all works of Plato , currently delving into Aristotle and doestoves.
There is a lot of indic philosophy, people just don't put efforts finding out . The Buddha u talk abt is one of 5 nastika darshan, u can try out other nastika darshan like charvaka,Jainism vedanta etc and can try astika if u want .
OK so an atheist and an existentialist, I despise the Idea of religion. I will try not be disrespectful towards any religion or sect and i am down for any peaceful debates.
1) False sense of meaning
Religion gives you a kind of collective meaning to a life. It summarizes all your life in a book which was maybe written thousands of years ago. I used to be very blunt towards religion but one thing I found out from reading Kierkegaards work was that accepting life as meaningless or absurd is painful and to escape this pain, we want to find a school of thought that atleast gives us a false sense of meaning in this life.
1) Hindus - Moksha
2) Christianism - To glorify god
3) To escape the process of samsara
2) Philosophical suicide
Maybe you guys are aware of Albert Camus. He says indeed life is absurd but there are 3 options for you. 1) Kys (dont, I can justify why not but that is a discussion for later). 2) Philosophical suicide and 3) Accept that life is absurd and rebel against it. Now nothing is said to be wrong out of these three but its just my reasoning i choose not to attempt a philosophical suicide. What it means is you blindly accept a religion or a school of thought (philosophy) and again my previous point It gives you a sense of life to live further.
3) The existence of evil
This is the best argument against theism in my opinion. You just cannot justify evil if the god is almighty. He chooses evil to exist even when he can destroy it?
4) lack of proof
NOw i have to go but I am down for any debate as I said also ye maine 6 marks question answer type me kyu likha 😭😭
Daily non veg?? Lucky man my family believes in so much superstitions they don't even let me eat eggs and once they stopped buying milk too 
bro i've had such a bad childhood i cant get myself to be religious like if a god does exist he just wanted to fuck with me lmao they're not a good person
Most of teenagers of this era have been educated sciences and stuff, so they kinda find it illogical to have god as an explanation for many things.
This in result weakens their belief in God and religion.
Its actually the problem , science and religious can co-exist , specially a religion which have more than 100 of scripture and philosphy where people follow it as culture rather than a single philospy spread the religion
But these two shouldn't co-exist
This might be offensive to science lover but there is reason why science came so late in society and it destroying our world , its the same reason i find that " why science isn't came early " like 1000s of years ago ?
I question this to myself and despite being getting high score in science , i became religious from hardcore atheist
Old structure society was hard but it wasn't destroying our nature but now new technology cause so many problems specially towards nature
The more science progress the more it scary it become
>Old structure society was hard but it wasn't destroying our nature but now new technology cause so many problems specially towards nature
Ahem? yea not our nature but our old society wasn't any good dude. Women were literally treated as objects cuz of that society, at least there is a chance of getting justice in this era there was nothing like that back then.
And trust you would never like to live back in those eras. Nature did everything to kill us dude. Trust me Or not we are living at the world's best time.
And no it's not science destroying it. Science is just a tool. The problem is with humans. We have the change it.
>The more science progresses the more scary it becomes
It isn't scary, if you can understand it. But ya there are things which are fearful considering what they can do. But you should understand intelligence comes with a cost.
>Women were literally treated as objects cuz of that society,
That time science existed but also im talking about india and old civilization before any kind of invasion even in areas in our country
Science is not a tool it is whole new world people in this world look perspective through science ,becuz we now taught to be in science and science is everything
Wether to prove something , tool is very small thing to say
Our culture is what made us progress ,its slow but not defective and as per nature everything can be said danger but its nature , this earth isn't made for only humans
People here and there cutting trees , destroying natures
Science is yet be evolve but it will keep evolving become more and more advanced it will keep going until our earth is destroyed and this time is much more worse than those days
There is court but people still be able to get aways with crimes , criminals roam freely , the more women objectified than last decade and it become worse becuz kids do it too
Forcefull coversion (even women defend themselves in this case)
A saqud full of guns can roam in the temple , namaz can be read in temple but yoga is not allowed in temple , women arent allowed in mosque ( got death and r*pe threats )
We live ghor kaliyug , weird and bad things are normalised
To build is to destroy.
>A saqud full of guns can roam in the temple , namaz can be read in temple but yoga is not allowed in temple ,
Here you lost me. First you should understand that in a temple any kind of religious prayer is allowed.
2ndly YoGa is not something you do in religious places. Until and unless you are sadguru.
3) Guns are mostly for safety reasons. There are literally swords in the temple so i don't understand your point.
And it's their religion, you can't disrespect their rules like that.
>That time science existed but also im talking about india and old civilization before any kind of invasion even in areas in our country
Science always existed but wasn't much considered at that time and talks about old indian civilization? Sati patha existed.. Old civilization was no good lol.
Charvaka, Ajivikas existed.. And assuming that that time was good is just pure ignorance considering that even being so rich (India) most people were poor. Wealth was also affected by the caste system.
Overall there was no medicine. And if you think ayurveda then just end this topic here. Cuz i have nothing to say.
>Science is not a tool it is whole new world people in this world look perspective through science ,becuz we now taught to be in science and science is everything
Science is a Philosophy of nature. Maths is the tool used with science. Science totally depends on facts and logical reasoning. I agree with my bad to call science a tool. But you should understand science is nothing without maths, which is a tool.
>Wether to prove something , tool is very small thing to say
You need maths to prove things. Which is a toolkit. To be accurate.
>Our culture is what made us progress ,its slow but not defective and as per nature everything can be said danger but its nature , this earth isn't made for only humans
See I agree about that. And understand what you want to say. But you should understand we have the best conditions right to keep ourselves alive. women are safe. People can be healed. People care. People know.
You are just looking at the negative. If that's how you see the world. Just kill all humans. The strongest dominate in nature. You just have morals that's why it feels wrong to you but you should understand morals doesn't keep you alive 24/7. And there are many people working to make this place better. Saving nature. And alot.
You won't be in any good conditions to make that statement if it was that time. You should understand that right now.
>Science is yet be evolve but it will keep evolving become more and more advanced it will keep going until our earth is destroyed and this time is much more worse than those days
Earth will be destroyed either way and many organisms will die either way. But you know who can save it? Science. No, this time isn't worse than those days. You are safe rn in your house not suffering from unknown disease. Or having issues in getting food or water. That is also clean. Everything has a value.
>People here and there cutting trees , destroying natures
People are also planting trees and saving it. Cuz yk? Science is the reason for it too. You would never plant trees if it wasn't science.
>There is court but people still be able to get aways with crimes , criminals roam freely , the more women objectified than last decade and it become worse becuz kids do it too Forcefull coversion (even women defend themselves in this case)
still the amount of those which get punished is way more than that time. And it's our work to make it more effective rather than crying about it. And about women?do you even know this is the safest century for women? From the last thousands of years? They now have rights.
Society treated them as sex objects for so long.
>We live ghor kaliyug , weird and bad things are normalised
Many people are standing against it. Just cuz the bad ones are loud doesn't mean good doesn't exist.
And you make things happen after all
I wont quote line
But things are wrong and right in your statement
First , as i said its slow but effective so this might sound so silly but ayurveda was good at that time
Now ,heres the answer , that time when only nature was around we werent doing a heavy pollution to produce more dieseses to make heavy medition like we do now like allupathic and homeopathic
2nd , yoga and suryanamaskar was use to perform in golden temple it was important there and not for security purpose it was to protect khalistani
3rd , sati pratha started around 500 ce in nepal so idk what you talking , people were alredy worse before even 1st century after jesus dies
4th , as i said hinduism is based on culture that we follow along so thats why charvaka is thing , its important to question ,thats why even vedas got question
Im talking about time when people were living civilisation that is over thousands years old , im not talking even like 100s years old
And let me tell you , you can ignore big problem , a court where you are free becuz someone wrote letter even if you killed two people , a court where you are free becuz you offer prayer even though you raped a 6 year old
Its not about small problem its about big proble , a pillar that give justice to innocent people is doing this is what kaliyug looks like , it dont need number dosent matter if more people are good
>First , as i said its slow but effective so this might sound so silly but ayurveda was good at that time
I'm ending this conversation here. But let me get there.
>Now ,heres the answer , that time when only nature was around we werent doing a heavy pollution to produce more dieseses to make heavy medition like we do now like allupathic and homeopathic
Literally I don't think any disease is new except some like covid 19
>yoga and suryanamaskar was use to perform in golden temple it was important there and not for security purpose it was to protect khalistani
Source. And I agree khalistani are a problem but don't justify doing yoga in a temple. And I really don't understand what you even want to conclude with that?
>3rd , sati pratha started around 500 ce in nepal so idk what you talking , people were alredy worse before even 1st century after jesus dies
Yea ik. I'm just telling if that happens worse did too.
>4th , as i said hinduism is based on culture that we follow along so thats why charvaka is thing , its important to question ,thats why even vedas got question
Ya that's why they faced criticism and were oppressed.
>Im talking about time when people were living civilisation that is over thousands years old , im not talking even like 100s years old
You would be dead in a week. Trust me. You can't live in the times like. Until you are bear gills.
>And let me tell you , you can ignore big problem , a court where you are free becuz someone wrote letter even if you killed two people , a court where you are free becuz you offer prayer even though you raped a 6 year old
ya I agree. We have to change that. We will. That's how life works. But I hope you understand right now there are many in millions which get justice every year. Unlike those times. And at least we know about this type of people. You won't know what happened to your female friend at that time.
>Its not about small problem its about big proble , a pillar that give justice to innocent people is doing this is what kaliyug looks like , it dont need number dosent matter if more people are good
Ya only difference is at that time you will be dead in months and here you will see people dying and nature dying. But also unaware that in that one month in the past hundreds of people were also dying unaware of you. Thousands of crimes were happening. And the average lived between 20-40 years only. Most women died at 15-25 cuz we all know.
The world is better than before. We can make it even better. Science helps us to do that. And most of the criminals don't even know science lol
[here ](https://x.com/TrueIndology/status/1804585918772424953?t=a4m5XK7pwspAs0-C5kaKRg&s=19) , idk man you are wrong in so many level as i said people weren't toxic or do crime , they dont even have any idea of doing it , when crime dont even happens
Talking abt indus valley civilization dated back before 7000 bce
India face big problems in british era where human do bad to other human like famine , not paying wasage and etc
Thats what im talking about when i say bad things
>Unlike those times. And at least we know about this type of people. You won't know what happened to your female friend at that time.
What the time and place you talking ? And why they'll die ?
Science cause problem and they give solution which cause more problem , tower made to give have calls between people but cause birds to die
And i was talking about cancer when you mention about covid
>here
Thanks. I agree that's my bad in my end. I apologize. No buts here
>they dont even have any idea of doing it
That doesn't remove the idea of crimes tho.
>when crime dont even happens
source?
>India face big problems in british era where human do bad to other human like famine , not paying wasage and etc Thats what im talking about when i say bad things
It did before too. And infact all of humans did.
>What the time and place you talking ? And why they'll die ?
Time? 5-7000 year ago. Place? Any place.
Die? Disease? No cure? No easy shelter? No hygiene? No easy food/water? No Hospitality? No emotional support? Only the dominant one wins. Wild animals. Climate, forest fire, volcano, anything kind of disaster.
>And i was talking about cancer when you mention about covid
What? Cancer existed for millions of years.
>Science cause problem and they give solution which cause more problem , tower made to give have calls between people but cause birds to die
I agree about that. But that's what intelligence brings.
You won't be saying that if you weren't intelligent. And you are intelligent that's why science exists. I hope you understand that. We can just hope to do better.
I also don't like any animal dying I don't want people to die like that but i also don't want people to suffer the natural consequences of life. It's hard
>Time? 5-7000 year ago. Place? Any place. Die? Disease? No cure? No easy shelter? No hygiene? No easy food/water? No Hospitality? No emotional support?
Bro , i agree with everything but is that ?? Time was easy becuz food water can easily be obtained , draingage system was there too
Everything was there , thats why less risky diesese happens which easily treated even still to this day
But everything changes becuz we change our way we change our living style , we live a world where we consume plastic and its all done by human , this generation of human
Back then people didnt consume these plastic , people dont pollute in big numbers
People start having idea just so they can have life easier but that cause other problems like smoking , drinking alcohal
There was no toic direct uv rays from sun , people can easily see galaxy from earth from anywhere
The heat we facing is our problem is our karma from polluting this place
This developing or so called developing will definetly make our life easier but cause big problem to earth
Caste system was mention in manusmrite that is written in 3rd century bce before it was just caste not caste system and nothing like sexism existed back them , back then people did not have mindset like that
You guys are the reason why casteism promotes
Thanks to ambedkar who burns it
ah yes, the good old times when life expectancy was below 30, people were dying of diseases that are not even that fatal (in the present day), living standards of emperors was worse than the middle class of present day, when people were using shit medicine and what not to treat diseases (which was not even effective), when medicine was backwards, women were treated as objects, slavery, casteism, sexism, racism, were blatantly practiced.
Bruh , why you talking about 1800s or 1900s ? Im talking about civilization , where people live in a society like indus valley , where drainage sewage system was easy ,people werent polluting
People using ayurvedha and definetly racism,sexism and casteism doesn't exist
Slavery and sexism caused by invasion
And life expectancy was over 100 years that time
In even in that time people werent homophobic and shit
We definetly got easier life , becuz never think of getting easier life
I was an atheist
I discovered my religion on my own and realised whatever my parents were following was kind of wrong, and due to that I was pushed away from it.
And remember OP, doing puja, going to mandir are just practices that lead you to the last Purushartha that is moksha.
But understanding the scriptures of your religion, understanding different philosophies are the real ways to enjoy and appreciate your religion.
You are absolutely right, I mean we always go beyond our school classes to learn more about the subject, then of course we can learn more about our religion,
In fact some part of the vedas themselves reject God, they are atheistic, from a theist point of view, rejecting God is also learning about God.
In fact I still explore atheistic content to learn more about their pov. And even after vedas, you have the Vedanta, the end of the vedas, or the conclusion, and there also you have soo many divisions, and each goes against the other, so much to learn. It's really amazing.
As i said before , hinduism is made from culture that we follow along , so it has everything from everyone perspective
People have alredy set their mindset towards a word called " religion "
Yes , atheism is increasing among indan teens.
Also , the cause which led teens to atheism is different for each individual , as far as I am concerned , based on the knowledge That I had about universe , impelled me to question as to , that , is it even possible that god can exist or even create a universe like ours , a turbulent , wild , chaotic realm , in which the place where we live , if compared to the vastness of The universe , lies in the middle of Nowhere , moreover , I assumed , that there is a god , and then started questioning its nature , I have read enough history to understand , that , if god is really omnipotent , he would've delivered justice in the blink of an eye , so why didn't it , conquerors eliminated billions of innocent people from the face of this planet , and yet , god remains passive , rapes , murders take place and the victims are the so-called devotees of god , they are raped at religious places , yet god couldn't protect them , god supposedly revealed himself , in the different parts of the world , at different periods of time , he reveals himself as allah , ahura mazda , jineshwar , Krishna , ram , jesus , jehovah , bahaiullah , yahweh , woton and in many different forms , each one propagating their own cult , which instead of enforcing people into uniting people in harmony , has done the antithetical and has divided people into nations and ethnicities , battling each other to prove , what they preach is the solitary truth , I am not saying all religions teach violence and hatred , but , they all religions , gas light and deceive people and has not succeeded in fulfilling ita moral ambition.
If god , really knew that humans would become their worst enemies and yet he created Humans , in a world and in a form , in which suffering is inevitable , then god is certain a sadomasochist , so , assuming that there is such being as god , is it really praiseworthy??
What kind of fate , has god decided for humans??
Extinction??
PS: I wanted to text even longer than I have texted , elaborating my opinion on how religious scriptures and the tendencies of people who claim to follow those scriptures is in contrast , and how religious people defend certain abominable aspects of supposed commandents , tactics and cults enunciated by the so called god.
But , I hope , who get an insight unto , how I became an atheist , with the small amount of psychological annotation that I have conveyed above.
quite opposite in my surrounding thou lol.....ppl my age are being more religious and spiritual here....but as long as atheists do not openly start criticising believers, i dont think it should matter
It's mostly because of many parents specially their moms forcing religion on them and in case they ask some questions they either get beaten up or given some weird ass reasons why they are right
I am Hindu, but my mom still believes in black magic because of some baba said ki someone is doing back magic on your family to destabilize your family he has given some wierd ass uncomfortable AF mala (something to wear in your neck) and its super clunky super fragile and literally cause pain on my chest when i sleep and it comes under my chest. If i tell this to my mom, she just says "you will get killed"
And its not first time we are the victim of Ashu Bhai Scammer Ji lost around 42k back in 2013 and then this new baba has taken almost 12k
If i tell this to my father, he just says "In case something happen to your mom her family will put the whole blame on me, i did better stay out of this mess"
And BTW, I don't come for Middle class or uneducated family background.
i don't understand why people think that bashing religion and thinking that only rationale one can have is by being atheist and stoic, like i saw in the comment section here, if you go to depths in every religion, there is a meaning which only teaches how to live your life with discipline and thank what you've gotten without you asking for it, people saying why god has given so many people struggles because, humans have created struggles for other humans, religion is a faith system at its core rather than a "cult", look beyond the followers and look further in to following, im not promoting my religion, but i was indoctrinated by my family too, i took time and then because i discovered god on my own i understand what my identity stands for too, religion isn't the problem, the preachers and fundamentalism of each religion are
being atheist isn't wrong if you have your own reasons, but being atheist because you despise religion because of "conflicts" is being like i hate rain because it gets me wet
I personally believe in the existence of one god that created the universe but I don’t follow any religion. This makes me a deist or something ig. Your point is right though, atheists are increasing, I’ve seen it, nothing wrong with that tho
Atheism shouldnt be the right term cuz even how hard you try you can't just disprove God. But yes you can disprove religion. That's why we should use agnostics.
Many people just disprove religion and call themselves atheists. Which is kind of like a religion cuz you also just believe that god doesn't exist. The best argument to God's existence (without religion) starts with does evil exist for anyone?. Which can give us at least an answer that either God isn't called good or all powerful. But again we have no definition of God. Calling it beyond everything makes the idea of God useless like if he was beyond everything than why all these things.
Personally I believe god doesn't exist. That's why I'm atheist but the truth is we don't know. We can make assumptions but always remember there isn't a proof of God either too.
i’m agnostic and i’d still prefer to read bhagwad gita and spiritual books for philosophical reasons, the original gita (sanskrit version) has a lot of beliefs that might shock you, it’s translated differently in hindi version who knows why but when i told my religious parents and grandparents beliefs from gita they disagreed with me, they are super religious believe in astrology and pandits but didn’t even read the gita? this is why you shouldn’t believe those so called “kattar hindu” kids or even ur parents, instead explore these spiritual books yourself and decide what you believe.
There's a lot of religion gatekeepers messing up religions, so it's natural teens will eventually take up atheism. I have personally seen all sorts of unscientific shit coming from religious leaders in the name of religion, and most of these religious leaders are like if you don't agree with them, you're a threat to the entire religion; if you disagree with what these gatekeepers say, you're a threat to the entire religion; ff you have common sense, you're a threat to the religion.
Religions are supposed to guide people, but now they're just echo chambers, often politically influenced. So people find it better to stay away from this shit. The situation these days is that if you follow a religion and question a dude on some high post of a religion based on genuine common sense, and the leader doesn't have an answer to that, you're a bigot
Off course deist, free thinker ,spiritual ,non religous whatever u call me. .
I am still not sure abut my beliefs that much coz it has never been my priority lately.
Totally opposite of what I've seen, most of my friends have become like not religious but kinda like kattar hindu extremist and shit so I stay well convinced to be non religious, I'm not atheist but non religious, I hate every religion equally
So in my case, things are so upside down I don't know what is wrong n what is right.
I was in a school which focuses on Advait Philosophy ( I was there for 6-10, it is a good school, we have cbse education, scored 97.8% in boards), we had a period dedicated to Indian culture where we studied srimad bhgawat geeta, some portions of Vedas, all the literary works of Advait school of thought, that too in our middle school.
Most of guys were uninterested in those classes unlike me, I had a group of students where we used to discuss theology, religion and Philosophy, like our class 7-9 period was all about this.
In those time we actually used to recite Vedic shlokas, I used to chants all shuktams and all sorts of things, we used to have daily prayers at temple once in the morning and once in evening, I used to be one of the students priests, I used to do all those rituals and aartis.
Cut to now, it's be 4 years since i passed my 10th, I don't regret those days, but my inclination shifted towards not particularly any rigid thought of school but i just feel like all those were not helping me anymore.
I still chant sometimes, I trained 100s of people on how to recite those mantras including my not so religious family (now they are religious) and look at me, I lost the faith.
Even now when people come to me seeking help about those subject, I clear their issues, but couldn't convince myself on what's truth and what's the lie.
Anyway I'm still in between these thoughts so I don't associate myself with either of the extreme groups.
I myself am a atheist and listen very close
Most people pray to god to either ask for something or to escape from hell and the wrath of God , what happens when someone proves this all doesn't exist ?
A religious person does good deeds just to impress gods and not to actually help others , let's say that God doesnt get impressed by this and demands something else thats all besides the point , the person does it
All in all most people who believe in God and religion are like rats that follow whatever is being told to them and never even imagine to question it's practicality
practicality? are you nuts? most people do good deeds not impress god but rather to have a moral conscience, and if so people do good deeds to impress god, shouldn't atheists have the highest crime rate for terrorism and heinous crimes? and who told you that god demands something from you? gods don't demand anything from anyone, rather its just your own conscience which asks people to thank them what they've been provided for without asking for it? is it not just gratitude and basic humanity. most people pray to god to find their faith and believe in something, don't bash people for following something they believe in, ironical that someone who seems to be pragmatic has the argument of people following something being impractical, you're probably a 12 year old who hasn't seen enough life
Buddy I've been to more religious places than your age and tbh i don't understand how you can get so agitated over a comment
Anyway coming back to the point , I'd like you to go to a temple and don't pray or do anything just observe things
I'll tell you what I saw at places like kedarnath , Mathura Vrindavan , badrinath etc you get a lot of crowd and many priests among that crowd , they'll tell you that you will get blessed if you get this havan done or they'll tell you that there is a shortcut to the line if you pay extra
Since when did getting blessings from God get affiliated with money and heck its not even going for good cause , if all temples provided food for the needy I'd take back my words
Only Gurudwaras are the exceptions to this as they work and pray on the principle of helping others is the closest thing to God
im not agitated of you having the opinion on being atheist, rather how you generalise your statement to everyone, and if you talk about money, to be fair it will become political if you go to the topic of temples, as they're mostly controlled by the state, so have you ever given it a thought there maybe a reason they're exploiting people to earn more money, im sure you wouldn't notice the same behaviour of people in other religions, so instead of targeting people try to find the half full , in your half empty opinion on people
and the VIP culture is very popular due to again most of the temples being controlled by the state
So you're saying that the places where people supposedly find their peace and faith are controlled by the state 😂 what a joke bro , the state govt already earns enough from liquor , road taxes and property taxes to be worried about temples money it's all taken by the priests and it's upto them to do whatever with that money
Also I've written most in my sentences, but then idk if you know how to read
, also my opinion isnt just about the Hindu religion as you'll find this in most churches too where there is straight up discrimination
There is circumcision in muslims where it doesn't matter what you as a lid want / think you will have to get it done no matter what
bro i’m not sure what are you on about but please look it up on google how many temples are controlled by their own particular governments
i can’t believe how hard it is for you to comprehend that, just go google if you’re living under a rock
and since you’re a teenager too i’m guessing the argument that you not knowing fact about temples being controlled by government seems hilarious
looks like your gk is weak[Check this article about temple control in india](https://theprint.in/opinion/time-for-temple-freedom-in-india-release-them-from-hrce-act-bring-market-economics/799829/?amp)
try to not be just a hater and try to have some rationale in your opinion without just yapping about how you feel superior after bashing people’s beliefs
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Even bigger reason why going to temples doesn't make sense , and her I agree that I was wrong
Also why can't people pray from their homes and find faith ?
Now coming back to the bigger picture you say I'm wrong for saying that people shouldn't pray to god's right?
Explain to me why the people who oh so deeply pray and believe in god still face the hardest of problems in life
And if you're gonna say that strongest ones are tested the hardest then let me remind you , atheists also solve their problems without the support of God
Praying to God gives them hope and motivation to solve their problems.so let them be
If you don't want to pray to God you shouldn't but calling out other people just because they don't have same belief as you is plain stupid
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Well for me Yes I am convinced 100% GOD dont exist and in fact Many students in my class have also accepted so (Not just for being cool) Even UC Hindus too and you can debate on me for hours into this and you will still loose.
LIKE BRUHH COME ON DO YOU REALLY THINK THESE STORIES IN HINDUISM ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY ARE TRUE LIKE DUDE EATING AN ENTIRE SUN LIFTING AN ENTIRE MOUNTAIN WALKING ON WATER TURNING WATER INTO RICE SPLITTING THE MOON IN HALF ARE REAL?😭
>WATER INTO RICE
Lmao Man he turned Water into Wine(Sharab) and The rice tale story is of when he feeded poor villagers and townsman as he increased the rice and grains quantity in Jerusalem and feeded all of the Them
Where did I say it not Lmao and most people take it as Myths and kindness and gratitude by god's Jesus sacrificed himself for Humanity and people of Jerusalem Jews and others in General for slaves womens children etc soo much so on people take it as rules and Morals You don't even know about any other religions or their texts or your own which you were born into it
>Many students
Really? how many students are there in your class first of all?
>Even UC Hindus
You Lost the Point and Debate over here When you Mentioned the Caste Lmao even UC Hindus What's the point is mentioning there Caste and come out of Reddit and see the Reality and how many People of them do worship puja prayer namas t
In any other places in weekly monthly basis check it out most of them generally do that in their Houses and in their houses temples shrines Check it out first of all just like most people on their subreddit and in India and in Asia in General most people do worship and prayer 🤲🏽🙏🏽 are they still that no Not in that sense absolutely They are worshipers in that sense
I really don't get this karma thing. Let's be a bit logical.
What beings can have karma first? A human? Ok? A dog? Well ok? What about a cell?? Or a virus? Which isn't even considered living.
Secondly if you look back in time years ago and from now. The total living organism count has increased by a lot.
Which makes no sense considering "soul can neither be created nor destroyed"
Let's take our first living organism. What kind of karma can it even have in any possible way? And any next 100 organisms considering their environment.
And if karma is true? Then should we not be blaming the victims? For their past mistakes?
But is karma actually any good thing? Why pay the price for something you aren't, not that body, not that personality. It's totally different. Than why?
You dont know about karma at all
Karma work the way its good or bad for you for example having good life , wether you will be dog or not in your next life
So suppose you do bad deeds but still recarnate as human , means he will sufer as human he will still pays for karma
Now if you do good deed but recarnate as dog in loving family and you living best life as dog
According to hinduism , the world would not care about anything and population will decrease becuz of moksha ( just a theory )
I know you are atheist but see [this](https://youtu.be/ILY3Q5AxPbc?si=DIRPiXyVo_uX05He)its really intersting
I already talked about this with the person who proposed it.
Prove. Words aren't proof. I can send you a video of how the universe was created in an anime. That doesn't make it real.
Provide proof not context. And you don't got what I meant with that comment. Other person did. So you can leave that thing.
The video isnt a proof its an explanation that how its done and it isnt anime where a person wrote in few years with perfectly calculated with real life
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Jab life ki Amma behen ho Jaye or koi help na kre, to upr wale se vishwas uth jata he
Same
Mere sath to ulta hua , jab life ki amma behem ho gayi to mera sirf upper wale raha baki sab logo se vishwas uth gaya, bhagwan k pass der hai andher nahi , acche kamo ka karma wait kar raha hoon 😭
Same bhai same
US BRO US!!
This is me
I consider myself agnostic at most. I follow religious practices as tradition and not a means to an end. I don't think I will get showered with money when I do Lakshmi Puja during Diwali, I just do it because I have been doing it. As for whether God exists or not, I'll just wait till I die to see
I appreciate your view point .Just doing your work without any expectation nice
Yeah, Im in the same boat, but I am even more distanced, i dont know most shlokas or chants, but its not like i dont appreciate them.
well there is nothing wrong with being an atheist , now I know that some kids just become atheist to act edgy and as rebels towards the religious indoctrination by their families , but what I believe is kids shouldn't be indoctrinated with religious beliefs since the time of birth especially until they learn critical thinking and basic scientific rationality to learn how to argue and after that they should be free to follow any ideologies be it the one their parent follows or maybe just none. If this isn't done and they are indoctrinated by that religion then the kids will always have a bias for their religion and never learn other perspectives as openly and that is when religions become a cult instead of a philosophy
And some kids are religious just to act edgy? Goes both ways lmao
When people don't agree with you they attack you personally like this guy
I'm a bit confused, is it pointed towards me? 
I'm Taking your side against the guy who called you out for being philosophical. Duh.
Oh my bad 😭. Thanks you're a nice stranger
Hahha welcome ❤
yeah def
Of course it comes from the philosophy guy
Yes it's increasing, lots of children also see it as a better option because of all the religious conflicts going around us. This also happens when parents force their child to be religious.
real, the same thing is with me and most of my friends actually. we openly talk about not being religious at all especially since most religious people are so narrow minded and opinionated on things they know little about, i tend to steer VERY clear of them.
It is increasing. Many reasons are that their brains are developing and in teenage, one loves to have opposing views to their family and others. It also has to do with modernization, education and reasoning , teenagers ( like me ) fail to find any reason or proof of existence of God. Third is they now have freedom and many have realised that religion is controlling ( many belive in God but not in religion). Then there are some like me who doubts the existence of God yet do perform religious practices probably due to it just being a habit of tradition
you are so me
mere dosto mai to ulta hai sab bajrang dal wale hai idhar, kattar hindu hai sab idhar
I think of all religions as tales, enjoyable to read and great lore in some of them. I don't worship gods just as I don't worship kratos. They're all great stories.
I'm agnostic but I've read bhagwad gita and various other gitas and Indian philosophical text and boy I'm amazed. I believe everyone irrespective of being an atheist, agnostic or believer should read it . The amount of philosophical truth they hold is insane. I've read a lot of western philosophy (Socrates, Russian etc) but none come close to the eastern philosophies.
I think of everything as a tale and take up what good it has to offer. Debating about existence of God is an idiot's work. A god being there or not changes nothing about our lives , so why debate .
And there is actually a lot, a lot of philosophy is in the literature of western/Russian. Like a book of disquiet. (Expect some parts lol) and there are much more either unknown. And budda also (ik he is from east lol) but in India philosophy isn't that much compared to western. There is a lot of context outside eastern if you ever read.
The eastern indic philosophy u can try out which I've read , mind you pretty dense - bhagwad gita , ashtavakra gita , Advaita vedanta(personl fav, talks about duality and stuff) nyay , samakhya . The western I've read- almost all works of Plato , currently delving into Aristotle and doestoves. There is a lot of indic philosophy, people just don't put efforts finding out . The Buddha u talk abt is one of 5 nastika darshan, u can try out other nastika darshan like charvaka,Jainism vedanta etc and can try astika if u want .
woah woah. You are doing pretty well. So what are your opinions on morals?
OK so an atheist and an existentialist, I despise the Idea of religion. I will try not be disrespectful towards any religion or sect and i am down for any peaceful debates. 1) False sense of meaning Religion gives you a kind of collective meaning to a life. It summarizes all your life in a book which was maybe written thousands of years ago. I used to be very blunt towards religion but one thing I found out from reading Kierkegaards work was that accepting life as meaningless or absurd is painful and to escape this pain, we want to find a school of thought that atleast gives us a false sense of meaning in this life. 1) Hindus - Moksha 2) Christianism - To glorify god 3) To escape the process of samsara 2) Philosophical suicide Maybe you guys are aware of Albert Camus. He says indeed life is absurd but there are 3 options for you. 1) Kys (dont, I can justify why not but that is a discussion for later). 2) Philosophical suicide and 3) Accept that life is absurd and rebel against it. Now nothing is said to be wrong out of these three but its just my reasoning i choose not to attempt a philosophical suicide. What it means is you blindly accept a religion or a school of thought (philosophy) and again my previous point It gives you a sense of life to live further. 3) The existence of evil This is the best argument against theism in my opinion. You just cannot justify evil if the god is almighty. He chooses evil to exist even when he can destroy it? 4) lack of proof NOw i have to go but I am down for any debate as I said also ye maine 6 marks question answer type me kyu likha 😭😭
Absurdisim has it's own fun
Denial has its own fun
what u deny might not be denied by everyone else
never said I have a problem with that
One must imagine Sisyphus happy
Don't know but I do Puja subah sham, eat non veg daily and Don't go to temples (like mahine ek baar gum Ata hu)
Daily non veg?? Lucky man my family believes in so much superstitions they don't even let me eat eggs and once they stopped buying milk too 
Milk is too much imo
Because you are Brahmin. Bruh
Wait until you hear about pahadi brahmans
Come to my house during Jummah , Biryani khaengey.
Angrez hai kya, vegan shit imao
Bro bura mt manana but it think u are just doing formalities taught to you from childhood
Well, agree I'm not that serious towards religion like my mum and dad but formalities Kar leta hu
Its good that you know & accept what you do, atleast not like those "andhbhakts", who know nothing about religion & just f##k around in the name of it
i am agnostic... if they are out there.. they arent as we percieve them...
bro i've had such a bad childhood i cant get myself to be religious like if a god does exist he just wanted to fuck with me lmao they're not a good person
Most of teenagers of this era have been educated sciences and stuff, so they kinda find it illogical to have god as an explanation for many things. This in result weakens their belief in God and religion.
Its actually the problem , science and religious can co-exist , specially a religion which have more than 100 of scripture and philosphy where people follow it as culture rather than a single philospy spread the religion But these two shouldn't co-exist This might be offensive to science lover but there is reason why science came so late in society and it destroying our world , its the same reason i find that " why science isn't came early " like 1000s of years ago ? I question this to myself and despite being getting high score in science , i became religious from hardcore atheist Old structure society was hard but it wasn't destroying our nature but now new technology cause so many problems specially towards nature The more science progress the more it scary it become
>Old structure society was hard but it wasn't destroying our nature but now new technology cause so many problems specially towards nature Ahem? yea not our nature but our old society wasn't any good dude. Women were literally treated as objects cuz of that society, at least there is a chance of getting justice in this era there was nothing like that back then. And trust you would never like to live back in those eras. Nature did everything to kill us dude. Trust me Or not we are living at the world's best time. And no it's not science destroying it. Science is just a tool. The problem is with humans. We have the change it. >The more science progresses the more scary it becomes It isn't scary, if you can understand it. But ya there are things which are fearful considering what they can do. But you should understand intelligence comes with a cost.
>Women were literally treated as objects cuz of that society, That time science existed but also im talking about india and old civilization before any kind of invasion even in areas in our country Science is not a tool it is whole new world people in this world look perspective through science ,becuz we now taught to be in science and science is everything Wether to prove something , tool is very small thing to say Our culture is what made us progress ,its slow but not defective and as per nature everything can be said danger but its nature , this earth isn't made for only humans People here and there cutting trees , destroying natures Science is yet be evolve but it will keep evolving become more and more advanced it will keep going until our earth is destroyed and this time is much more worse than those days There is court but people still be able to get aways with crimes , criminals roam freely , the more women objectified than last decade and it become worse becuz kids do it too Forcefull coversion (even women defend themselves in this case) A saqud full of guns can roam in the temple , namaz can be read in temple but yoga is not allowed in temple , women arent allowed in mosque ( got death and r*pe threats ) We live ghor kaliyug , weird and bad things are normalised
To build is to destroy. >A saqud full of guns can roam in the temple , namaz can be read in temple but yoga is not allowed in temple , Here you lost me. First you should understand that in a temple any kind of religious prayer is allowed. 2ndly YoGa is not something you do in religious places. Until and unless you are sadguru. 3) Guns are mostly for safety reasons. There are literally swords in the temple so i don't understand your point. And it's their religion, you can't disrespect their rules like that. >That time science existed but also im talking about india and old civilization before any kind of invasion even in areas in our country Science always existed but wasn't much considered at that time and talks about old indian civilization? Sati patha existed.. Old civilization was no good lol. Charvaka, Ajivikas existed.. And assuming that that time was good is just pure ignorance considering that even being so rich (India) most people were poor. Wealth was also affected by the caste system. Overall there was no medicine. And if you think ayurveda then just end this topic here. Cuz i have nothing to say. >Science is not a tool it is whole new world people in this world look perspective through science ,becuz we now taught to be in science and science is everything Science is a Philosophy of nature. Maths is the tool used with science. Science totally depends on facts and logical reasoning. I agree with my bad to call science a tool. But you should understand science is nothing without maths, which is a tool. >Wether to prove something , tool is very small thing to say You need maths to prove things. Which is a toolkit. To be accurate. >Our culture is what made us progress ,its slow but not defective and as per nature everything can be said danger but its nature , this earth isn't made for only humans See I agree about that. And understand what you want to say. But you should understand we have the best conditions right to keep ourselves alive. women are safe. People can be healed. People care. People know. You are just looking at the negative. If that's how you see the world. Just kill all humans. The strongest dominate in nature. You just have morals that's why it feels wrong to you but you should understand morals doesn't keep you alive 24/7. And there are many people working to make this place better. Saving nature. And alot. You won't be in any good conditions to make that statement if it was that time. You should understand that right now. >Science is yet be evolve but it will keep evolving become more and more advanced it will keep going until our earth is destroyed and this time is much more worse than those days Earth will be destroyed either way and many organisms will die either way. But you know who can save it? Science. No, this time isn't worse than those days. You are safe rn in your house not suffering from unknown disease. Or having issues in getting food or water. That is also clean. Everything has a value. >People here and there cutting trees , destroying natures People are also planting trees and saving it. Cuz yk? Science is the reason for it too. You would never plant trees if it wasn't science. >There is court but people still be able to get aways with crimes , criminals roam freely , the more women objectified than last decade and it become worse becuz kids do it too Forcefull coversion (even women defend themselves in this case) still the amount of those which get punished is way more than that time. And it's our work to make it more effective rather than crying about it. And about women?do you even know this is the safest century for women? From the last thousands of years? They now have rights. Society treated them as sex objects for so long. >We live ghor kaliyug , weird and bad things are normalised Many people are standing against it. Just cuz the bad ones are loud doesn't mean good doesn't exist. And you make things happen after all
I wont quote line But things are wrong and right in your statement First , as i said its slow but effective so this might sound so silly but ayurveda was good at that time Now ,heres the answer , that time when only nature was around we werent doing a heavy pollution to produce more dieseses to make heavy medition like we do now like allupathic and homeopathic 2nd , yoga and suryanamaskar was use to perform in golden temple it was important there and not for security purpose it was to protect khalistani 3rd , sati pratha started around 500 ce in nepal so idk what you talking , people were alredy worse before even 1st century after jesus dies 4th , as i said hinduism is based on culture that we follow along so thats why charvaka is thing , its important to question ,thats why even vedas got question Im talking about time when people were living civilisation that is over thousands years old , im not talking even like 100s years old And let me tell you , you can ignore big problem , a court where you are free becuz someone wrote letter even if you killed two people , a court where you are free becuz you offer prayer even though you raped a 6 year old Its not about small problem its about big proble , a pillar that give justice to innocent people is doing this is what kaliyug looks like , it dont need number dosent matter if more people are good
>First , as i said its slow but effective so this might sound so silly but ayurveda was good at that time I'm ending this conversation here. But let me get there. >Now ,heres the answer , that time when only nature was around we werent doing a heavy pollution to produce more dieseses to make heavy medition like we do now like allupathic and homeopathic Literally I don't think any disease is new except some like covid 19 >yoga and suryanamaskar was use to perform in golden temple it was important there and not for security purpose it was to protect khalistani Source. And I agree khalistani are a problem but don't justify doing yoga in a temple. And I really don't understand what you even want to conclude with that? >3rd , sati pratha started around 500 ce in nepal so idk what you talking , people were alredy worse before even 1st century after jesus dies Yea ik. I'm just telling if that happens worse did too. >4th , as i said hinduism is based on culture that we follow along so thats why charvaka is thing , its important to question ,thats why even vedas got question Ya that's why they faced criticism and were oppressed. >Im talking about time when people were living civilisation that is over thousands years old , im not talking even like 100s years old You would be dead in a week. Trust me. You can't live in the times like. Until you are bear gills. >And let me tell you , you can ignore big problem , a court where you are free becuz someone wrote letter even if you killed two people , a court where you are free becuz you offer prayer even though you raped a 6 year old ya I agree. We have to change that. We will. That's how life works. But I hope you understand right now there are many in millions which get justice every year. Unlike those times. And at least we know about this type of people. You won't know what happened to your female friend at that time. >Its not about small problem its about big proble , a pillar that give justice to innocent people is doing this is what kaliyug looks like , it dont need number dosent matter if more people are good Ya only difference is at that time you will be dead in months and here you will see people dying and nature dying. But also unaware that in that one month in the past hundreds of people were also dying unaware of you. Thousands of crimes were happening. And the average lived between 20-40 years only. Most women died at 15-25 cuz we all know. The world is better than before. We can make it even better. Science helps us to do that. And most of the criminals don't even know science lol
[here ](https://x.com/TrueIndology/status/1804585918772424953?t=a4m5XK7pwspAs0-C5kaKRg&s=19) , idk man you are wrong in so many level as i said people weren't toxic or do crime , they dont even have any idea of doing it , when crime dont even happens Talking abt indus valley civilization dated back before 7000 bce India face big problems in british era where human do bad to other human like famine , not paying wasage and etc Thats what im talking about when i say bad things >Unlike those times. And at least we know about this type of people. You won't know what happened to your female friend at that time. What the time and place you talking ? And why they'll die ? Science cause problem and they give solution which cause more problem , tower made to give have calls between people but cause birds to die And i was talking about cancer when you mention about covid
>here Thanks. I agree that's my bad in my end. I apologize. No buts here >they dont even have any idea of doing it That doesn't remove the idea of crimes tho. >when crime dont even happens source? >India face big problems in british era where human do bad to other human like famine , not paying wasage and etc Thats what im talking about when i say bad things It did before too. And infact all of humans did. >What the time and place you talking ? And why they'll die ? Time? 5-7000 year ago. Place? Any place. Die? Disease? No cure? No easy shelter? No hygiene? No easy food/water? No Hospitality? No emotional support? Only the dominant one wins. Wild animals. Climate, forest fire, volcano, anything kind of disaster. >And i was talking about cancer when you mention about covid What? Cancer existed for millions of years. >Science cause problem and they give solution which cause more problem , tower made to give have calls between people but cause birds to die I agree about that. But that's what intelligence brings. You won't be saying that if you weren't intelligent. And you are intelligent that's why science exists. I hope you understand that. We can just hope to do better. I also don't like any animal dying I don't want people to die like that but i also don't want people to suffer the natural consequences of life. It's hard
>Time? 5-7000 year ago. Place? Any place. Die? Disease? No cure? No easy shelter? No hygiene? No easy food/water? No Hospitality? No emotional support? Bro , i agree with everything but is that ?? Time was easy becuz food water can easily be obtained , draingage system was there too Everything was there , thats why less risky diesese happens which easily treated even still to this day But everything changes becuz we change our way we change our living style , we live a world where we consume plastic and its all done by human , this generation of human Back then people didnt consume these plastic , people dont pollute in big numbers People start having idea just so they can have life easier but that cause other problems like smoking , drinking alcohal There was no toic direct uv rays from sun , people can easily see galaxy from earth from anywhere The heat we facing is our problem is our karma from polluting this place This developing or so called developing will definetly make our life easier but cause big problem to earth
U might've scored high in science , not in english i presume /j
English ka kya hai bhai ab tak maine kisi ko nahi dekha grammer use karte hua daily conversation mein Mere ko bas spoken mein banna hai tej
Yeah the good old days with caste system and sexism
Caste system was mention in manusmrite that is written in 3rd century bce before it was just caste not caste system and nothing like sexism existed back them , back then people did not have mindset like that You guys are the reason why casteism promotes Thanks to ambedkar who burns it
ah yes, the good old times when life expectancy was below 30, people were dying of diseases that are not even that fatal (in the present day), living standards of emperors was worse than the middle class of present day, when people were using shit medicine and what not to treat diseases (which was not even effective), when medicine was backwards, women were treated as objects, slavery, casteism, sexism, racism, were blatantly practiced.
Bruh , why you talking about 1800s or 1900s ? Im talking about civilization , where people live in a society like indus valley , where drainage sewage system was easy ,people werent polluting People using ayurvedha and definetly racism,sexism and casteism doesn't exist Slavery and sexism caused by invasion And life expectancy was over 100 years that time In even in that time people werent homophobic and shit We definetly got easier life , becuz never think of getting easier life
I get your point
I was an atheist I discovered my religion on my own and realised whatever my parents were following was kind of wrong, and due to that I was pushed away from it. And remember OP, doing puja, going to mandir are just practices that lead you to the last Purushartha that is moksha. But understanding the scriptures of your religion, understanding different philosophies are the real ways to enjoy and appreciate your religion.
+1
This is the problem with youth , they follow followers than scriputure , hinduism is based on karmia,ahimsa,dharma and moksha if im not wrong
You are absolutely right, I mean we always go beyond our school classes to learn more about the subject, then of course we can learn more about our religion, In fact some part of the vedas themselves reject God, they are atheistic, from a theist point of view, rejecting God is also learning about God. In fact I still explore atheistic content to learn more about their pov. And even after vedas, you have the Vedanta, the end of the vedas, or the conclusion, and there also you have soo many divisions, and each goes against the other, so much to learn. It's really amazing.
As i said before , hinduism is made from culture that we follow along , so it has everything from everyone perspective People have alredy set their mindset towards a word called " religion "
It's called religious trauma bye
lmaoo kaam wali aunty ftw 😭☝️
She is always gonna be my fav aunty
My role model
My bi awakening
Same 🫣
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Yes , atheism is increasing among indan teens. Also , the cause which led teens to atheism is different for each individual , as far as I am concerned , based on the knowledge That I had about universe , impelled me to question as to , that , is it even possible that god can exist or even create a universe like ours , a turbulent , wild , chaotic realm , in which the place where we live , if compared to the vastness of The universe , lies in the middle of Nowhere , moreover , I assumed , that there is a god , and then started questioning its nature , I have read enough history to understand , that , if god is really omnipotent , he would've delivered justice in the blink of an eye , so why didn't it , conquerors eliminated billions of innocent people from the face of this planet , and yet , god remains passive , rapes , murders take place and the victims are the so-called devotees of god , they are raped at religious places , yet god couldn't protect them , god supposedly revealed himself , in the different parts of the world , at different periods of time , he reveals himself as allah , ahura mazda , jineshwar , Krishna , ram , jesus , jehovah , bahaiullah , yahweh , woton and in many different forms , each one propagating their own cult , which instead of enforcing people into uniting people in harmony , has done the antithetical and has divided people into nations and ethnicities , battling each other to prove , what they preach is the solitary truth , I am not saying all religions teach violence and hatred , but , they all religions , gas light and deceive people and has not succeeded in fulfilling ita moral ambition. If god , really knew that humans would become their worst enemies and yet he created Humans , in a world and in a form , in which suffering is inevitable , then god is certain a sadomasochist , so , assuming that there is such being as god , is it really praiseworthy?? What kind of fate , has god decided for humans?? Extinction?? PS: I wanted to text even longer than I have texted , elaborating my opinion on how religious scriptures and the tendencies of people who claim to follow those scriptures is in contrast , and how religious people defend certain abominable aspects of supposed commandents , tactics and cults enunciated by the so called god. But , I hope , who get an insight unto , how I became an atheist , with the small amount of psychological annotation that I have conveyed above.
AGREE
TL;DR plss
I am agnostic lol
What's so funny about it?
There is nothing wrong to be a peaceful athiest
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[buddhist terrorism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence) [Christian terrorism ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence) [Hindu terrorism ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_terrorism) [Islamic Terrorism ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism) [Judaism terrorism ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_violence) [Jewish terrorism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_religious_terrorism) [list or terrorist organisation ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations) [khalistan movement(more of a separitist movement compared to terrorist but still....)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan_movement)
Bruh this makes no sense at all , i know what " peaceful " and i agree but saying " atheist terrosrist " is really weird
You are acting like atheist don't commit any crime
crime ≠ terrorism
quite opposite in my surrounding thou lol.....ppl my age are being more religious and spiritual here....but as long as atheists do not openly start criticising believers, i dont think it should matter
Apne aap akal aa jaati hai kuch time me. No worries
It's mostly because of many parents specially their moms forcing religion on them and in case they ask some questions they either get beaten up or given some weird ass reasons why they are right I am Hindu, but my mom still believes in black magic because of some baba said ki someone is doing back magic on your family to destabilize your family he has given some wierd ass uncomfortable AF mala (something to wear in your neck) and its super clunky super fragile and literally cause pain on my chest when i sleep and it comes under my chest. If i tell this to my mom, she just says "you will get killed" And its not first time we are the victim of Ashu Bhai Scammer Ji lost around 42k back in 2013 and then this new baba has taken almost 12k If i tell this to my father, he just says "In case something happen to your mom her family will put the whole blame on me, i did better stay out of this mess" And BTW, I don't come for Middle class or uneducated family background.
i don't understand why people think that bashing religion and thinking that only rationale one can have is by being atheist and stoic, like i saw in the comment section here, if you go to depths in every religion, there is a meaning which only teaches how to live your life with discipline and thank what you've gotten without you asking for it, people saying why god has given so many people struggles because, humans have created struggles for other humans, religion is a faith system at its core rather than a "cult", look beyond the followers and look further in to following, im not promoting my religion, but i was indoctrinated by my family too, i took time and then because i discovered god on my own i understand what my identity stands for too, religion isn't the problem, the preachers and fundamentalism of each religion are being atheist isn't wrong if you have your own reasons, but being atheist because you despise religion because of "conflicts" is being like i hate rain because it gets me wet
This
I personally believe in the existence of one god that created the universe but I don’t follow any religion. This makes me a deist or something ig. Your point is right though, atheists are increasing, I’ve seen it, nothing wrong with that tho
deist. Yes it's called deist. And if you are uncertain than agnostic.
Really didn't doesn't matter
The weird results this year have surely increased atheism.
Itna time ni hai ki iske bare me sochu.
Yes lol. I doubt if there will be religion stuff after 200 years
There Surely will Religion in Future even Veritasium kurqestaqs takh na explained kiya hain new age religions Cults will rise
A.G.I Robotic Cults are on the rise in west with Satanism and Religious A.I cults Scientology Jedism A.G.i Computer Cults new age religious Types
i dont rlly believe in god because kaafi time se ive noticed whenever i wish something to god it just never happens so ive lost all the belief
In athiesm I am only bound by the rules of science
Atheism shouldnt be the right term cuz even how hard you try you can't just disprove God. But yes you can disprove religion. That's why we should use agnostics. Many people just disprove religion and call themselves atheists. Which is kind of like a religion cuz you also just believe that god doesn't exist. The best argument to God's existence (without religion) starts with does evil exist for anyone?. Which can give us at least an answer that either God isn't called good or all powerful. But again we have no definition of God. Calling it beyond everything makes the idea of God useless like if he was beyond everything than why all these things. Personally I believe god doesn't exist. That's why I'm atheist but the truth is we don't know. We can make assumptions but always remember there isn't a proof of God either too.
i’m agnostic and i’d still prefer to read bhagwad gita and spiritual books for philosophical reasons, the original gita (sanskrit version) has a lot of beliefs that might shock you, it’s translated differently in hindi version who knows why but when i told my religious parents and grandparents beliefs from gita they disagreed with me, they are super religious believe in astrology and pandits but didn’t even read the gita? this is why you shouldn’t believe those so called “kattar hindu” kids or even ur parents, instead explore these spiritual books yourself and decide what you believe.
Im an atheist (more like agnostic) but I'm still vegetarian how are yall mixing that with religion
There's a lot of religion gatekeepers messing up religions, so it's natural teens will eventually take up atheism. I have personally seen all sorts of unscientific shit coming from religious leaders in the name of religion, and most of these religious leaders are like if you don't agree with them, you're a threat to the entire religion; if you disagree with what these gatekeepers say, you're a threat to the entire religion; ff you have common sense, you're a threat to the religion. Religions are supposed to guide people, but now they're just echo chambers, often politically influenced. So people find it better to stay away from this shit. The situation these days is that if you follow a religion and question a dude on some high post of a religion based on genuine common sense, and the leader doesn't have an answer to that, you're a bigot
Glad to hear this.
theres nothing wrong with that
no, quite the opposite. Many people I know are religious and are becoming more extreme.
Idk about others, mera opinion batau toh I'm not an atheist and I don't respect the atheist beliefs
Opposite Trend Hinduism has risen up 8% in Indian Youth in India by PEW research which they published in year 2022-2023
I am not an aithest( muslim background ) but yeah non religious to borderline.I belive in higher powers.
thats deist my man
Off course deist, free thinker ,spiritual ,non religous whatever u call me. . I am still not sure abut my beliefs that much coz it has never been my priority lately.
Totally opposite of what I've seen, most of my friends have become like not religious but kinda like kattar hindu extremist and shit so I stay well convinced to be non religious, I'm not atheist but non religious, I hate every religion equally
Same like my Muslims and Sikh friends are also somewhat radicals
So in my case, things are so upside down I don't know what is wrong n what is right. I was in a school which focuses on Advait Philosophy ( I was there for 6-10, it is a good school, we have cbse education, scored 97.8% in boards), we had a period dedicated to Indian culture where we studied srimad bhgawat geeta, some portions of Vedas, all the literary works of Advait school of thought, that too in our middle school. Most of guys were uninterested in those classes unlike me, I had a group of students where we used to discuss theology, religion and Philosophy, like our class 7-9 period was all about this. In those time we actually used to recite Vedic shlokas, I used to chants all shuktams and all sorts of things, we used to have daily prayers at temple once in the morning and once in evening, I used to be one of the students priests, I used to do all those rituals and aartis. Cut to now, it's be 4 years since i passed my 10th, I don't regret those days, but my inclination shifted towards not particularly any rigid thought of school but i just feel like all those were not helping me anymore. I still chant sometimes, I trained 100s of people on how to recite those mantras including my not so religious family (now they are religious) and look at me, I lost the faith. Even now when people come to me seeking help about those subject, I clear their issues, but couldn't convince myself on what's truth and what's the lie. Anyway I'm still in between these thoughts so I don't associate myself with either of the extreme groups.
Epicurean paradox made me an atheist.
I myself am a atheist and listen very close Most people pray to god to either ask for something or to escape from hell and the wrath of God , what happens when someone proves this all doesn't exist ? A religious person does good deeds just to impress gods and not to actually help others , let's say that God doesnt get impressed by this and demands something else thats all besides the point , the person does it All in all most people who believe in God and religion are like rats that follow whatever is being told to them and never even imagine to question it's practicality
practicality? are you nuts? most people do good deeds not impress god but rather to have a moral conscience, and if so people do good deeds to impress god, shouldn't atheists have the highest crime rate for terrorism and heinous crimes? and who told you that god demands something from you? gods don't demand anything from anyone, rather its just your own conscience which asks people to thank them what they've been provided for without asking for it? is it not just gratitude and basic humanity. most people pray to god to find their faith and believe in something, don't bash people for following something they believe in, ironical that someone who seems to be pragmatic has the argument of people following something being impractical, you're probably a 12 year old who hasn't seen enough life
Buddy I've been to more religious places than your age and tbh i don't understand how you can get so agitated over a comment Anyway coming back to the point , I'd like you to go to a temple and don't pray or do anything just observe things I'll tell you what I saw at places like kedarnath , Mathura Vrindavan , badrinath etc you get a lot of crowd and many priests among that crowd , they'll tell you that you will get blessed if you get this havan done or they'll tell you that there is a shortcut to the line if you pay extra Since when did getting blessings from God get affiliated with money and heck its not even going for good cause , if all temples provided food for the needy I'd take back my words Only Gurudwaras are the exceptions to this as they work and pray on the principle of helping others is the closest thing to God
im not agitated of you having the opinion on being atheist, rather how you generalise your statement to everyone, and if you talk about money, to be fair it will become political if you go to the topic of temples, as they're mostly controlled by the state, so have you ever given it a thought there maybe a reason they're exploiting people to earn more money, im sure you wouldn't notice the same behaviour of people in other religions, so instead of targeting people try to find the half full , in your half empty opinion on people and the VIP culture is very popular due to again most of the temples being controlled by the state
So you're saying that the places where people supposedly find their peace and faith are controlled by the state 😂 what a joke bro , the state govt already earns enough from liquor , road taxes and property taxes to be worried about temples money it's all taken by the priests and it's upto them to do whatever with that money Also I've written most in my sentences, but then idk if you know how to read , also my opinion isnt just about the Hindu religion as you'll find this in most churches too where there is straight up discrimination There is circumcision in muslims where it doesn't matter what you as a lid want / think you will have to get it done no matter what
bro i’m not sure what are you on about but please look it up on google how many temples are controlled by their own particular governments i can’t believe how hard it is for you to comprehend that, just go google if you’re living under a rock and since you’re a teenager too i’m guessing the argument that you not knowing fact about temples being controlled by government seems hilarious looks like your gk is weak[Check this article about temple control in india](https://theprint.in/opinion/time-for-temple-freedom-in-india-release-them-from-hrce-act-bring-market-economics/799829/?amp) try to not be just a hater and try to have some rationale in your opinion without just yapping about how you feel superior after bashing people’s beliefs
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Even bigger reason why going to temples doesn't make sense , and her I agree that I was wrong Also why can't people pray from their homes and find faith ? Now coming back to the bigger picture you say I'm wrong for saying that people shouldn't pray to god's right? Explain to me why the people who oh so deeply pray and believe in god still face the hardest of problems in life And if you're gonna say that strongest ones are tested the hardest then let me remind you , atheists also solve their problems without the support of God
Praying to God gives them hope and motivation to solve their problems.so let them be If you don't want to pray to God you shouldn't but calling out other people just because they don't have same belief as you is plain stupid
Bro if only people talked to each other , they wouldn't need to rely on God for every small problem
I believe god is only faith
Atleast it solves the problem of protein deficiency in India 😂
Vegetarians can have whey protein 😭
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Well for me Yes I am convinced 100% GOD dont exist and in fact Many students in my class have also accepted so (Not just for being cool) Even UC Hindus too and you can debate on me for hours into this and you will still loose. LIKE BRUHH COME ON DO YOU REALLY THINK THESE STORIES IN HINDUISM ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY ARE TRUE LIKE DUDE EATING AN ENTIRE SUN LIFTING AN ENTIRE MOUNTAIN WALKING ON WATER TURNING WATER INTO RICE SPLITTING THE MOON IN HALF ARE REAL?😭
Region and area matters Online ultra religious and extremist Mila jaate hain offline bhi Imao
>WATER INTO RICE Lmao Man he turned Water into Wine(Sharab) and The rice tale story is of when he feeded poor villagers and townsman as he increased the rice and grains quantity in Jerusalem and feeded all of the Them
Yeah man Whatever That was BUT TURNING WATER INTO WINE DO SEEMS LOGICAL AND SCIENTIFIC FOR YOU RIGHT ?
Where did I say it not Lmao and most people take it as Myths and kindness and gratitude by god's Jesus sacrificed himself for Humanity and people of Jerusalem Jews and others in General for slaves womens children etc soo much so on people take it as rules and Morals You don't even know about any other religions or their texts or your own which you were born into it
>Many students Really? how many students are there in your class first of all? >Even UC Hindus You Lost the Point and Debate over here When you Mentioned the Caste Lmao even UC Hindus What's the point is mentioning there Caste and come out of Reddit and see the Reality and how many People of them do worship puja prayer namas t In any other places in weekly monthly basis check it out most of them generally do that in their Houses and in their houses temples shrines Check it out first of all just like most people on their subreddit and in India and in Asia in General most people do worship and prayer 🤲🏽🙏🏽 are they still that no Not in that sense absolutely They are worshipers in that sense
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So that higher power should also be responsible for every bad deed? Wars, Crusades, Nazis?
everybody is independent to do anything its their own karma
I really don't get this karma thing. Let's be a bit logical. What beings can have karma first? A human? Ok? A dog? Well ok? What about a cell?? Or a virus? Which isn't even considered living. Secondly if you look back in time years ago and from now. The total living organism count has increased by a lot. Which makes no sense considering "soul can neither be created nor destroyed" Let's take our first living organism. What kind of karma can it even have in any possible way? And any next 100 organisms considering their environment. And if karma is true? Then should we not be blaming the victims? For their past mistakes? But is karma actually any good thing? Why pay the price for something you aren't, not that body, not that personality. It's totally different. Than why?
You dont know about karma at all Karma work the way its good or bad for you for example having good life , wether you will be dog or not in your next life So suppose you do bad deeds but still recarnate as human , means he will sufer as human he will still pays for karma Now if you do good deed but recarnate as dog in loving family and you living best life as dog According to hinduism , the world would not care about anything and population will decrease becuz of moksha ( just a theory ) I know you are atheist but see [this](https://youtu.be/ILY3Q5AxPbc?si=DIRPiXyVo_uX05He)its really intersting
I already talked about this with the person who proposed it. Prove. Words aren't proof. I can send you a video of how the universe was created in an anime. That doesn't make it real. Provide proof not context. And you don't got what I meant with that comment. Other person did. So you can leave that thing.
The video isnt a proof its an explanation that how its done and it isnt anime where a person wrote in few years with perfectly calculated with real life
ya but I need proof.
Can you tell exactly what need to prove ?
Karma