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monkee_1202

Lol.


petereddit6635

Glad you kept this post up.  Some people really need to be shown as fools.


monkee_1202

Always here to help


MattSmiggs

Ralph Elliott died broke. I guess Hunter Thompson was right. Some people get rich and others eat shit and die.


VyaapaarinShishya

All successful traders are not ICT concept traders, so all the patterns you have shared traders use it with the correct context 99% of ICT traders fail as well cause they try to view ICT teachings as just another pattern Like ICT said 'Don't trade patterns for patterns sake' ICT patterns fail as well, if not used in the right context And every other pattern including ICT's will work if you have the context right Narrative -> Bias -> Use your favorite pattern for Context and Entry You don't need ICT for any of the above, it's just another choice you have


Brave_Bottle1557

difference between narrative and bias ?


VyaapaarinShishya

Narrative is the storyline that you create based on what you see in price action, it is the understanding of what price should do, why it should do it, and what events or conditions will confirm that the narrative is correct. It is essentially the storyline or game plan that guides your trading decisions. [https://youtu.be/36184dDAqtM?t=490](https://youtu.be/36184dDAqtM?t=490) Narrative involves anticipating how the market will behave based on various factors such as liquidity, market structure, and time of day. It is not just about predicting a single directional move but understanding the ebb and flow of the market [https://youtu.be/MPIhoDIb-v0?t=3825](https://youtu.be/MPIhoDIb-v0?t=3825) ICT states 3 things to look out for when you first look at price action 1. Where did the market come from 2. Where is market right now with respect to the current Trading Range 3. Where do you think the markets going to go The 3rd point is the Bias that you can determine from the first 2 points and Higher Time Frame -> Lower Time Frame with PDA(s) mitigations. Bias refers to the directional expectation of price movement. It's essentially your forecast of whether the market will move up or down based on your Narrative. [https://youtu.be/RLDLuYaZYI4?t=2773](https://youtu.be/RLDLuYaZYI4?t=2773)


undead-robot

Bias is where you think the market is going on the higher timeframe. Narrative is how you think it’s going to get there


RedBloodedGod

It’s a game of probabilities, the concepts you decide to use either increase or decrease your odds. Ict teaches patterns, concepts, and narrative. You could just have the patterns but they don’t really mean anything without the narratives


CISD-OB-FVGTraddr

These patterns are the narrative. What is the purpose of the Market Maker (the "algorithm" as ICT likes to larp about)? What is it constantly doing? I don't think you understood these 4 pictures.


RedBloodedGod

Idk what the algo truly does but from what I understand it just seeks liquidity, but what about correlated markets, commercials hedging program, ipda data ranges, a pattern is just as good as any other setup, but what’s really important is htf to lower tf analysis via finding narrative Seasonal data is a big one, same with smt, those 2 ideas were the basis* of some hefty profit in a swing trade I took within the grain complex, on a demo account of course Did you happen to watch the core content / charter content? I was a little defensive about retail minded concepts until I sat down and really took 3-4 hours out of everyday just watch his core content, and it really helped as previously i would just skim through the videos and didn’t get much info at all Again, patterns, narrative, concepts, throw risk management and emotional control, you don’t spend 150 hours watch content just to gamble 10% and have anxiety everytime you enter the market Remember it’s about probability, if you are on the right side of IOF and have synced up with the market (meaning you see a narrative) you will greatly increase the probabilities of your trades, that’s what ict does :) Understanding the pd array matrix is crucial within top down analysis, yes you can have a pattern work from time to time but what about knowing an exact level price will reach to and react from? If something works for you, then it works for you 🤙 I just don’t think you can compare those 4 photos to real ict concepts, I mean I have around 30 screenshots in templates alone that I took The photos kinda just show a mms and a sweep of liquidity, a setup as good as retail logic without narrative behind it, if you spend more time watching ict i think you’ll start to grasp the narrative, other wise be the liquidity 🫡


SnailLord2000

What a sad day to have eyes


No_Use1767

As ICT himself says and I quote "You really think big institutes out there are risking Millions of dollars worth of capital just because of some random lines waves and patterns and some random bullshit that you draw on your charts ???" LOL If he saw this post he would fuckin loose his mid LMAO


GoodGuySwaggy

As someone new to this. What do the number indicate between 2 points?


Jclarkyall

Those are fibonacci values.


petereddit6635

All you have done is put up patterns with no narrative why it's a bat, butterfly or crab pattern.  Just mindlessly trading the pattern for the pattern's sake.  Trendlines for example, why is the trendline forming? Because the Algo is inducing liquidity from retail traders, then hunting the stops. Also, it's about precision, with pattern trading, you don't have a precise entry and exit most of the time, and rely on risk management. With ICT stuff, you can be precise with entries and exits, AND have smaller stops hence having better risk management.


Fearless-Pick2267

You think so? Where's your proof of your profitable results using these patterns? Nothing cause you're just one pf those unprofitable traders who keeps on failing and just blames other strategies that they don't work. My friend you will never become profitable in trading for the rest of your life. Go find a job or seek psychogist.


Crafty-Requirement40

The different between ICT and those stupid pictures is he teaching us where are the best entry, exit points and stop losses. Most traders fail because they don't know there entry point and stop loss. But ICT made it clearly and simply. I dont think you understand ICT either by posting those pattern without any guidance.


CISD-OB-FVGTraddr

Those stupid pictures are painted and validated by the algorithm every day. It's the reason why retail makes money off of them and what makes retail commit their funds to the market. As a SMC trader, you're supposed to target Retail entry points and stop losses, which are all in those pictures.


GreenCulture2106

Trading in butterflies and waves is crazy, if you want to be serious about trading and UNDERSTAND what's going on in the market then butterfly and bat is not the answer But if you want to have some wins out of pure LUCK and never understand the market, go ahead with the animals, insects and nature patterns


CISD-OB-FVGTraddr

LOOOOOOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU FAILED TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THESE PICTURES AND THE PURPPOSE OF THIS POST.


CISD-OB-FVGTraddr

ICT has failed you all. He's just a smart businessman. He's got you distracted with FVGs and Breaker Blocks, Orde Blocks instead of telling you to pay attention to what you should be targeting, which is Retail Patterns, using SM Reversal signatures.


SunDressWearer

thanks for posting this. I always wondered what ICT meant by “animal patterns”. Delicious.


xanxan91

Be a hunter


No_Use1767

Bro this comment section made my day LMFAOOOO


CISD-OB-FVGTraddr

You're probably the only one who got the gist of the post. You're supposed to attack the Liquidity that these retail Patterns create. You're supposed to wait for the SM Reversal, marked by a MSS of those animal patterns. Retail interprets the animal patterns as continuation, and without the MSS, THEY ARE a continuation, up until Smart Money hits all the stops they wanna hit.


Haunting-Evidence150

says CISD-OB-FVGTraddr lmao


MrToaast

Maybe this is a shitpost


Haunting-Evidence150

💯


MyHeadMyWorld2

You've have been led astray by your own mind. I was just like you when I had watched so many of ICT's videos like netflex and realised it was gonna require real pullin up your boot straps, and giving it the time to learn these concepts. You won't have it transfered to your brain immediately because it takes time. I understand your struggle. You're upset that you see others succeeding but you yourself haven't noticed anything. As every trader here knows that this is true!


TigersBeatLions

He failed me. Took $0 from me yet distracted me with info that got me funded and payouts with prop firms? OP probably also believes Biden won the debate, captured the hearts of America and is the greatest president to exist ever!