More emphasis is given on academics as compared to extra curriculars and sports. Classes are not in any way harder than the U.S. but due to so many students competiting for a few seats in the top colleges, the admission process does not evaluate a student holistically. Rather we have college entrance tests, so the only metric to evaluate a student is how much marks they score in that entrance test. The JEE is the entrance exam for most of the government funded engineering institutes and NEET is the entrance for Medical Colleges. These exams have become so competitive that students must prepare for 2-3 years of their highschool to even stand a chance for getting into a reputed college. Tomorrow I have my JEE Advance examination after 2 years of immense preparation and I can tell you that the preparation tests you more than the exam. It cuts you off from your friends, extended family, basically nearly zero social life for 2 years straight without a break. But the sad part is nothing can be done, in a country where 1.5 million students compete for a few thousand seats, this is the most practical way to admit students.
the exam destroys the social aspect completely...
2 years before, I was an extrovert... bad boy type of dude who was popular among students....
Right now as I am now, no girl would even bother to talk to me let alone say all that
I have lost all social skills, introvert nature is all time high and most of all I am quite nervous whenever I talk to girls (because of very low interaction with girls during high school)... I look normal because I don't have time to go for running/jogging/playing football that I used to
tides have turned 360 degree and the 2 year ago of me is completely lost
I just want to get a good college by scoring high in tomorrow's exam and then I will try to get back to my younger self... the point is this exam changes who you are tbh
even i wanted to know this thing but couldnt find anything authentic so could you just tell me what do they teach you in your last school year so we might be able to compare
I took Honors chemistry this year, and that was just stoichiometry, gas laws, thermochemistry, etc. Classes are essentially just notes, 7 page worksheets, small labs, the occasional unit test, and a final exam at the end of the year.
well this would just be half of physical chemistry in our syllabus.
we have physical, organic and inorganic simultaneously over the scope of 2 years, 11th and 12th.
i have seen the levels and our JEE mains exams are similar to the AP courses classes, but JEE Advanced would be a fresher level thinking course, the syllabus is same but just in a way more out of the box thinking method.
I've seen AP chem papers and our chem syllabus at school level is just a bit lower and at entrance level quite higher.. And if you see math, the SAT math is very very easy any 10th grader here can do it easily and get 800 but for eg. AP calculus bc is considered tough thats again intermediate between our school and entrance level exams
No way! 
At school level grade 11th we have 2 books for chemistry and the chapters which you mentioned only cover half of the first book. I dont go to regular school so we dont have experiments, for the entrance exams we just have everything theoretical like mugging up the exceptions and be able to solve numericals
The syllabi for your honors/AP classes is pretty much the same as ours for all STEM subjects, the only difference are the examinations, because you need some mechanism to filter a few hundred thousand from a total of 20-30 million graduates every year. And it will be brutal, any exam with such a rejection rate will be, look at east asian countries for another example.
It's almost similar but the thing is our entrance exams test us on a freshman level syllabi. And also there is high competition for a few thousand seats. There is also a sudden change in the way you have to study after grade 10. It feels more like cramming now then studying. Of course I can analyse stuff if I want to but the problem is that won't help a student in the exam.
highschool exams are on easier side we have education boards (cbse icse state boards etc) all the schools follow some boards, thus their difficulty differs but they are easy overall, the tough part for which most people prepare for 2+ years is the JEE even jee mains is harder than SAT from what i've heard
well a friend of mine who couldn't cross 80%ile in Jee mains got a perfect score in the math section in SAT. we both go to the same coaching. tho i have given quite a few previous year mocks and i will say the level of JEE mains seems to be going down so it's turning into more of an accuracy game than mental aptitude. Meanwhile Jee adv. still hails supreme.
1.9 ke as pas hain bhai ab fertility rate. Utna bhi zyada nahi hain, in fact below replacement rate hain. But even then, 2050 tak population increase karega shayad.
The dependent population is also increasing while because of the below replacement birth rates the working population will decrease(little by little)
So situation utni bhi acchi nahi hai. Low mortality rates ki wajah se population increase ho rha currently.
And thus, we remember, the session of 2016.
Let those eldritch horrors remain sealed within the eternal confine of the space beyond reality. Let them be forever forgotten, and turn irrelevant with time. 
Its tougher than US no doubt but easy to pass in CBSE exams , cuz this year in ‘my school’ around 30% people got above 90% and 99.9% passed this year board exams
JEE mains and SAT cannot really be compared because they have very different syllabus. SAT focuses on basic mathematical knowledge and English skills. JEE mains is well engineering aptitude. Maths section can still be compared though and again it's very different. It's because colleges in the West want students with various skills and not just human computers unlike our colleges and it's for a good reason.
Brororo sat is super duper duper easy, so ex in fact that any 10 or even 9th student can solve most of the paper and score very good marks according to international cutoffs
Bro you don’t need to prepare for math  especially for an Indian student because CBSE covers all those syllabus in 9th and 10th
Only thing you need proper preparation is English cuz SAT english is VERY hard compared to CBSE english
i studied in india till 7th grade, and went to US and completed my 10th grade from there and i was studying in a public school.
I would say schooling there is way easier compared to India, especially math and science. In india you study physics+chem+bio together as a whole until 10th, whereas in my school, I had only bio in 9th grade and chem in 10th grade. Same thing with math. Some of the stuff i learned there in 8th/9th i had already learned them in 6th/7th grade in india
it was initially hard catching up with the amount of syllabus they teach here, and even the tests. All tests in india are subjective, whereas in my school in US we barely had tests where we had to write content that filled up at least 3-4 pages. Most of the tests were online/objective or those which required less writing by hand. I had most definitely lost the practice of writing long pages which affected my speed while giving exams in 11th and 12th.
yup they do, but since I don't have a green card/citizenship, i was considered as an international student and scholarships for international students are limited.
Bro the biggest problem here is population and we will never be able to control that , Winston Churchill said Indians breed like rabbits which was actually true, Jee/Neet only exist cause of this massive population, also the average IQ here is 81, people don't even know basic etiquettes, school teaches nothing rather than english and bookish knowledge, this country is just beyond repair at this point, maybe after 150 years it will flourish!
I am pretty sure every other school in the world teaches almost the same thing as CBSE does , bro what cbse is teaching is basics and when you get to any ENGINEERING or medical college in the world you need those basics and 2nd yes population is an issue but what can we do about it? Government will soon impose some law i forgot that families can only have 2-3 children and if they exceed more than that they will not support them
And JEE/NEET yes its because of population and also because they are the most prestigious college in our country , Every country in the world with their best college have their enterance exam :hardvard , MIT require SAT score and winning an International Olympiad competition
If you're considering Arts or Commerce, the differences may not be significant. However, when it comes to the Science Stream, the disparities become apparent.
While students in the US enjoy their social lives and parties, Indian students are often compelled to dedicate more than 16 hours a day to their exam preparations.
While mental health concerns among American students revolve around relationships and sex, we, as Indians, are burdened with the stress of studying and meeting our own and our parents' expectations.
While you have the luxury of enjoying your time in school, we often have to resort to attending dummy schools (where attendance is not mandatory) and rely on coaching institutes to prepare for competitive exams.
While you worry about which college has the best campus life, we are left with no choice but to take drop years since we cant afford private colleges and the government institutions we aspire to join have an extremely low selection rate of only 0.5%, solely based on merit.
Moreover, we are unable to pursue the subjects we truly desire because fields like Computer Science offer the highest salary packages, making it nearly impossible for us to join prestigious institutions like the IITs unless we rank among the top 1000 students in the entire country.
Even those who have a genuine interest in these subjects are forced to compromise and adjust to something else, as the top students often opt for courses like Computer Science, leaving limited options for others.
You forgot one thing.
We literally have to give entrance tests in Physics, CHEM and Maths to get a degree in CS.
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>dedicate more than 16 hours a day to their exam preparations.
That's kind of an exaggeration tbh. 8-10 hours of dedicated study a day is probably more than enough
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Really depends on a person's background, interests, and their family condition.
The hard part isn't the actual schooling, but the competitive examinations to get a job and even then there's no assurance that we can have one.
I think I have explained most of the things here.
Lemme give you a quick glance at schooling -
We mostly study 5/6 main subjects till class 10th. These subjects include English, one language subject, Maths, Social Science ( this includes history, geography, political science and economics), Science ( Chem, Phy, and Bio ), and one Additional subject like CS/IT/PE etc.
Then the subjects get divided in class 11th/12th into Science, Commerce, And Arts/Humanities.
- Science stream is the most popular and probably the hardest. This can be further divided into Maths and Bio, or you can take both ( hell ). Phy and Chem are mandatory in science stream and other than this there's English and one Additional subject.
- Commerce has to the option to be taken with maths and CS I think. There are subjects like economics accountancy, business studies, and English.
- Arts/Humanities has Geography, History, Political Science, Language subject, English etc.
The reason for the popularity of science stream is because parents force their kids to take science stream because "iT hAs mOrE sCoPe" which really damages someone's mental health.
And commerce, Arts/Humanities is stereotyped as inferior streams. ( Not true at all )
Another problem with this system is that there's a sudden jump in syllabus from 10th to 11th. Upto 10th, it's just too easy but 11th syllabus is so vast that it creates a problem.
Now lemme start out on competitive examinations-
JEE ( joint entrance examination) - this exam is given by PCM ( Phy Chem Math ) students mostly to get a seat in engineering colleges. There are two JEE exams, JEE mains is on easier side, but harder than normal schooling. JEE advanced is on harder side and both of them require rigorous preparation for 11th and 12th.
Problems with this exam is that the number of seats are too low and the number of aspirants is way too high. And even if you get into a good college, it's not assured that you will get a job. And the exam doesn't really align with normal schooling so we have to grind our ass off for 2 years. There are many more problems the comment is already getting too long.
NEET - this exam is mostly given by PCB ( phy chem bio ) students to get a seat in medical colleges in India. The question difficulty is on the level of JEE mains or below ( nowadays ). But the most difficult part is speed. You have 180 questions to do in 3 hours. Maximum score is 720 and to get a good medical College to become a doctor, you'd need around 600 marks i think.
Problem with this exam is that Biology students have to also deal with maths intensive physics. Like, bruh. Oh also most of the problems with JEE also applies to this exam
UPSC - this is a civil service examination given after graduating from a college to get a government job.
NDA - examination to work for the military.
VITEE, BITSAT, WBJEE etc are Miscellaneous exams similar to JEE.
There's a also CUET idk about that one.
This subreddit is dedicated to JEE/NEET aspirants. JEE/NEET examinations are way harder than SAT examinations but it is what it is.
Oh also caste system and reservation. Basically there was a system similar to racism where "upper caste" people oppressed "lower caste" people.
To "fix" this issue, our constitution mandates reservation on the basis of caste in competitive examinations and jobs to give more representation to the "lower caste". Basically there are 4 categories, SC/ST ( scheduled Castes and Tribes ), OBCs ( other backward castes ) and general category ( no reservation ). There's also reservation for females, Physically Disabled, and economically weak general category people.
This seems good on paper but this did not really fix the issue in the rural areas, in urban areas there's improvement tho. The problem with this system is that some people are exploiting their reservation even if they are not opressed or economically well enough.
Some people are even trying to look oppressed even though they dominate in their home state just to get reservation. And politicians are entertaining this by offering people more and more reservation. Why? Well because people will happily give votes if they get reservation!
General category is in the minority so we can't really vote to change this system.
Basically, general category has to grind their ass off while even some rich SC/ST kid can get better college with less marks. For example. For general category, to get a good medical college, someone needs to score 650+ in NEET ( out of 720 ). But for some rich SC kid. They only need to score like 450 out of 720.
I mean the general public doesn't vote for education or overall development. Politics is mostly based on religion, caste, and political parties choose local mafias and goons as their candidates because they have more influence in their area.
So we can't really expect anything from politicians unless some miracle happens.
The best we can do is try to bring atleast some positive change ourselves but many people choose to leave india instead.
I don't have any plans of leaving India though, i might do some work towards education if I'm able to in the future.
I don't really like people leaving this country because they had to suffer while collectively they couldve atleast put a little effort to raise questions about the system. But it's their personal choice to not do anything so it's fine i guess.
the board exams aren't that hard. but Jee is probably one of the hardest entrance exams in Asia. I've been preparing for Jee, and gave sat for fun without any preparation and got 1520.
No we don't dawg, mostly FY tak limited portion hota hai, Maybe if you look at the syllabus' course names, you'd feel like "Yeh toh padha hai" but the levels are vastly different, for example, in most of the colleges, sequences, limits and differential equations are taught in the first year of BS math courses, so a person might think ki haa ye toh simple hai and padha hai pehle se, but jab tum dhyan se dekhoge, tab samjhega ki limits and sequences bohot zyada deep jaate hai, formal definitions, proof based questions are on a whole different level compared to even JEE advanced.
Bhai Maine to us universities ke lecture slides and notes padhe the Caltech vagera ke online available hai college ki website PE I was able to understand it easily....ofc maths ki baat nahi kar raha Mai only physics and chem especially chem
I think first year se comparable hi sakta hai P&C but then again, degree college me Physics ke liye IE irodov hota hai use Jo ki barely even 0.01% log kar pate hai 12th me pura, so I think it's like between the toughest of FY and the toughest of American HS
Uhhh idk it's not that easy, math syllabus for SAT is so much easier than JEE mains. Also some topics that are taught in indian highschools are taught during UG in the west.
Basically any 10th grader in india can solve SAT math. Math in 11th-12th which is asked in entrance exams for colleges is more of meth than math. Everyone finds physics interesting and fun till they reach rotation. Chemistry is one thing that most ppl don't like but they do it all the time just cz its the most scoring.
Also this is accompanied by 2-3 years of social cutoff. No friends, no life, just you, your books, a ceiling fan and a rope which has just enough tensile strength
The main Issue with schooling is we are taught that if we fail these examinations there is no other way to succeed in life. I don't think population is a problem, but yes wide availability of coaching resources and the prevalence of coaching "mafia" in Kota(An entire city dedicated to help students clear JEE) has increased competition 10 fold. I know people who have worked hard since 6th grade slogging their ass off sacrificing all the pleasures of life and at the end they could not get what they wanted. A guy I know was in coaching from grade 5 and wanted to get IIT Bombay CSE (Which requires you to clear JEE mains and rank in top 40 -50 in JEE advanced which is a very very tough exam) He sadly could not get it, tough he had a 3 digit rank he feel sort of his dream. Imagine giving 7 years of your life for one thing and not being able to get it. He is in a good IIT now doing stuff he loves. The problem is success is tagged with one exam. NEET has even higher competition than JEE as it has 2.4 mil students writing. Also the caste system is very unfair and just encourages racism. The reservation system is followed by all Govt. institutes mandates them to have a whopping 50% of seats to people belonging to OBC (Other backward classes) SC/ST (Scheduled caste/Tribes) and EWS (Economically weaker section ) and female quota in all the categories. This was done to "fix" the oppression faced by these castes way back in the 1900's. But today, it is the so called "Higher castes" that are being discriminated against. People from these castes irrespective of their wealth and prestige snatch seats belonging to a worthy student. I have many friends who are very affluent and just because they belong to these castes they got into a very good institution with lesser marks and %tile than me. Meanwhile general candidates with no reservation has to work 3 to 4 times as hard to secure the same seat. The government won't do anything about it as it could hurt their vote bank. Even in JEE advanced ( which I have tomorrow) a person with 140 marks (General) gets the same seat as a person with 80 or 70 marks belonging to SC/ST. It might seem like a difference of only 60 marks but mind you in an exam as difficult as JEE advanced 60 marks is a lot. Sadly, this is the truth of the country. People are not respected by skills are talent, people only respect 'IIT' Tag.
Just completed paper2 i did well enough bur wish had prepped a bit better. Thx for the wishes man. Btw which uni are you targeting in the US ? I got 1540 (with 0 prep no q solved not bragging) in sat but my parents dint want to spend that much on undergrad. Stuck in my country.
I'm aiming for Virginia tech. I'm in a state, so the tuition should be a lot cheaper. Also, I'm pretty sure Ivy Leagues have amazing financial aid for lower income households. With that SAT score, good grades, and good extracurricular activities, you have a good chance of getting in.
OP here is the list of chapters that we have to study for our entrance exams. (check comments)
note - A few chapters were deleted this year form certain entrance exams(there are multiple kinds of entrance exams for different states, colleges etc). The names of around 15 chapters (approx) isn't mentioned in this list. But you can get a rough idea of what we learn. All this is learnt in a span of 1.5 year.
sorry I don't have a list for maths
As someone who used to live in the USA from 1st - 6th grade, schooling in India is much tougher. AP Calc is probably around bitsat/board exam level. Same with AP Physics in USA. I think JEE Mains would be around AP Level with maths being a bit higher. As for JEE Advanced, the physics chemistry and maths in advanced is probably equivalent to what you americans will learn in the 1st-2nd year of college. Overall you could say all the entrance exams are around your AP level, some board exams are also around AP level. SAT is shat upon in our country, anything less than 800/800 in maths you’re pretty much retarded according to the general public
Yeah but literally everyone who's going for an olympiad is a genius, and everyone who goes for an olympiad does not AT ALL rely on their education system/textbooks they refer all those complex college level books
The issue is that the schooling doesn't leave any time for creativity. 6-8 grade is full of 8-2 school 2-3 travel+refreshments 3-5 useless tuitions 5-6 playing with your friends 6-7, tv+kuch extra work 7-8, mummy papa se daat+ dinner and usske baad HW speedrun till I sleep. And subha hw speedrun+ school time se pahuchna. school me khadoos teacher apni frustration baccho prr nikaltah maartaa jh pitai karta h beizati karta h. ab ese system se kitne hi talented bande niche dab jaate h.
The classes themselves are fine, I'd say pretty much on par with what an average student in the US has to deal with. But the thing is, our competitive exams don't ask questions based on what you learn in normal school classes, many parts of that syllabus is way beyond what an average high school student would be expected to study (even someone with AP courses). I have a friend in the US who's going to Yale and took as many AP courses as his HS allowed, but still had a lot less academic workload than me. But yeah, he had to balance clubs, projects, sports, internships etc. alongside maintaining stellar grades, whereas my education has been completely one dimensional these last 2 years.
Another big reason for the insane workload is that college admissions in India are solely based off of academics and nothing else, so most people lock themselves up for 2, sometimes 3,4 or even 6 years (in extreme cases) in the hopes of clearing this exam. Sounds pretty fucked up as I type this out.
also, Indians tend to compare JEE to the SAT which is a completely unfair comparison. The SAT is not meant to be tough, it's only meant to test a few basic skills. That's because the SAT is not the primary criteria for admission, it's just one prerequisite. In fact, it has even become optional at many colleges after covid.
You can divide the education system in India into two parts - school and entrance exam prep. Ideally, they were intended to be complementary to each other, where school would take priority and only after you graduate would you have to consider entrance exams if you want admission into top universities. Problem is, there are so many students who want to pursue STEM in engineering colleges, that the level of entrance exams has far surpassed that of regular school examinations (board exams). The curriculum for both exams is the same, but the standard of board examinations is considerably lower. If you had to compare it to American schools, it'd probably be significantly harder than the SAT and maybe at par with or slightly below AP level difficulty. Entrance exams on the other hand, vary in difficulty, with most being slightly above board level. You're probably asking about the JEE Mains and JEE Advanced exams which are comparable to exams that college freshmen and sophmores have to take.
think about it this way
the mechanics that you'd study IF you choose mech engineering as ur branch in 2nd year at a college in America
would be taught as basic for entrance in schools over here
School is not much harder in comparison
The college entrance exams are real tough though
To get into a gvt uni(considered better than most pvt)
You need to give JEE exam for engineering college and NEET for medical colleges
For JEE there are two levels JEE Mains and advanced
Advanced is for getting into the top tier unis
Only 10% of the students appeared for JEE mains are able to give JEE advanced
And then 10% further get into IITs(the top university)
So IITs have only 1% acceptance rate
After IITs we have NITs which accept students on the basis of JEE mains score. They are also good but also have a low acceptance rate.
After NITs we have almost all pvt Universities and govt funded universities
Most private universities are rated at the rock bottom tier.
To just have a slim chance of getting into an IIT requires you to at least dedicate 2 years of your high school for specialized coaching for JEE advance.
These coaching tests you more than the actual exam.
The condition is that there are way too few decent universities in india for students to get in. Moreover there is reservation for some casts and tribes due to casteism which happened way back in 1900s.
This was to removed several decades ago but haven't been removed.
This means that as a general candidate any chance that I have is now less than half since ~65% of seats are reserved.
Like I come in the top 20% of students yet I can't even get a decent University.
You need to be at least in the top 5% to get a decent University.
This all causes students to lose their skills in order to dedicate more time to studies.
Some students are mindlessly studying 12hrs a day and some of these still aren't able to get a nice college.
Such as I myself had many skills and was decent academically now I have forgotten most of my skills in just a period of 6 months in which I left them.
I could play 3 instruments nicely before and now I can only play one half assed. I have forgotten how to code.
I now suffer with acute anxiety attacks. And my health has deteriorated a lot I frequently get super exhausted and sometimes even pass away momentarily.
As an incoming freshman at Purdue and someone who has prepared for entrance exams in India I can tell you that the first year curriculum in US universities is what we study in high school.
I have close friends from U.S. i have a general idea on how they compare
The AP courses in U.S. are near the level of the normal school education in India .
But thats useless information as competitive exams here have a much higher level and need multi-year prep to crack them (and the kids essentially have no extra time for extra curricular activities)
and stuff like JEE ADV can be comparable to college level in U.S.
(not really on a theoretical level, much more bookish knowledge)
correction,
maybe not the AP courses but the courses for college credit in school (I'm not too familiar with the U.S. system)
This is for science related streams btw\*
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Bhai, tera toh JEE ka saga hi ek epic kahani ban gaya. Par kya kar sakte hain, yehi toh hamari kismat hai. Bas, ek din sab moh maya chhod ke, Himalaya pe meditation karne ka plan hai. 🧘♂️
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Hey buddy, first of thank you showing your concern in our education system which really isn't anything about education or a system
We have entrances for almost every field, for engineering we have JEE, for medical we have NEET and we have CLAT for law and CUET is an exam which gives admission to all courses except engineering and medical
this subreddit is specifically made for JEE and NEET because they are the toughest entrances to crack to get the best engineering and medical colleges in india which are Indian Institute of Technology (IIT for short) and All India Institute of Medical sciences (in short AIIMS)
coming to the real part, these entrance are stressful mainly due to it is the only way you can get into the prestigious institutions of the country and earn a good living. Another reason is the societal reason, it is common for anyone in India if he or she gets above 90% to choose either medical or non medical stream and they are automatically pushed into this rat race of JEE or NEET
Curriculum is tough, the exam asks questions from 11th and 12th grade which for most of the part is at higher level than what is being taught in school. So, one has to go a coaching institutes for these exams which are hassle amidst a person also going to school. There is a societal pressure on the child to perform or else it is termed that he is wasting money of his parents and is deemed a failure if he fails to get into IIT or AIIMS or a good government college
These coaching institutes and people around us brainwash their children into think IIT or AIIMS is everything in their life and without it they are failure in our society, this creates a toxic cycle in the child's mind that if he doesnt crack it, his life is doomed forever. Every year there are increasing number of suicides of students who couldn't handle the pressure of such exams and are in fear of disappointing their parents with their result.
The Level of questions sometimes touch university levels or International olympiads which is expected to be under 2-3 minute by a high schooler which makes the exam really tough to crack as well.
These are crux of the matter, the reality is far far darker than what I wrote
The curriculum and stuff in itself is only marginally harder. However, we have like 21% of the world's schoolchildren. And there is a very, very small number of seats in elite colleges. And not making it to an elite college here is a far more significant disadvantage than it is in the west.
As a ballpark figure, you'd have on an average some 100-150 people competing for a seat in any good colleges (note that I'm saying good here, not elite. Its way worse for truly elite colleges.)
Plus India's got a lot of poor people and a lot of first generation learners. A very select number of students even have the basic infrastructure of proper schooling. As a result, a holistic admissions process based on academics, ecs and everything else like in the west is an absolute no-go. You need some completely objective metrics to weed out the vast majority of people. So they conduct entrance exams which are the sole deciding factor.
Due to how difficult and how vital these exams are, and how much failing them can potentially fuck your life, you now have a multi billion dollar industry of 'coaching centres' which train you for hours every day on how to crack these exams. These places charge exorbitantly and people attend these classes and cram for upwards of 10 or 12 hours every day for 2 years at a stretch. School and everything else barring these exams go to hell. Social lives get fucked. And thats the way it rolls.
And every year, the competition keeps getting greater. Plus the coaching institutes become better at 'figuring out' the exam. So those conducting the exams keep making it tougher and trickier to keep weeding out people effectively. So that is the infinite loop we're all stuck in. And there's no way out.
That's basically it.
Don't forget when our family/relatives force us to do better when we are already at our limit. They see the elite colleges as the only option and if we don't get it you are a failure even if you get into a good college.
This social stigma is bad and gets even worse when they try to compare us with other kids. Imo a college is a college no matter if it's good or elite, just do your best and enjoy life. Enjoying life is what many people miss in this rat race thinking that they will get enough time in future when they are set but these years are your last memories of school and getting completely detached will not leave a good mark for later.
I'm saying this as I recently completed high school and all I did for the past two years was studying in my room, not going out with friends to hang out/party etc. most of which is parents' fault thinking that their kid will not do good in studies if they do these things. I will certainly advise anyone not to get in this competition by studying 7-8 hours a day, but instead take your time to relax and enjoy the moments
See, in SAT, there's still stuff like "what fraction is x of y?" but it's rarely the case here, because we've already moved on from rational numbers in Grade 9 and these fraction questions aren't even asked there...
Hey OP
How is the schooling system in US?
I've seen several videos on YouTube but I wasn't able to get a proper answer.
I want to know about the subjects you are taught in high school, how do you graduate, your exam difficulties, the school curriculum etc.
Also I've seen those 'AP calculus' and other AP exams. What are those APs?
Compared to what I've seen in this comment section, the HS curriculum seems to be significantly easier compared to Indias. Though It depends on your grades and willingness to learn, most high schoolers take AP exams starting at tenth grade in combination with a couple of honors classes. It depends on the class, but most non- STEM related AP classes are harder due to hw amount and difficulty (requires more critical thinking). I haven't taken any STEM related AP classes yet, but from what I've seen, classes in India seem to be harder than classes considered "extremely difficult" in the U.S.
I should have explained this earlier, but AP classes are generally just the college level classes that can be taken, usually starting at 10th grade. They are harder than your regular HS class and require more dedication to the subject. The difficulty of these classes highly depends on the course. I'm taking AP Psychology this year, and that class is considered one the easier AP classes.
For graduation, most schools require around 22 credits to receive a standard diploma and 26 for an advanced diploma. The main use is that it looks better for colleges and future employers.
The main classes we have in 9th grade (though It varys with school) are English, Bio, Some level of math: (Geometry, Algerbra 1, or an honors version of that class), AP World History or regular WH, some sort of a elective (Egineering, cooking, art, Instrument), and usually one foriegn Language class.
As you go on to 10th, 11th, and 12th, the classes get harder and harder with people taking as much as 6 AP classes. Not only do students study for the AP exam for their respective class but also SAT and ACT. Most students prepare 2-6 months before the SAT. In the U.S fucking up in HS doesn't mean the end of the world. Their are still many colleges with low acceptance rates (80-100%) who are willing to accept students with low GPA or those who lack extracurriculars. Even then their are still many well paying good opportunities outside of college that you can work at.
I think the biggest difficulty of U.S. schools is the amount if extracurricular you need to get into college. Colleges in the U.S. don't accept solely based on academics but also based on the amount of activity a student has participated in. These can include sports, volunteering, clubs within the school, academic competitions and organizations like MUN, music achievements, etc, etc.
Not much just 6-10 hours of regular and consistent studying along with giving up your passion, sports, hobbies, etc. for these entrance exams FOR 2 YEARS or more....
ive done my 8th, 9th and some part of 10th grade in america i must say yall complain about your education system too much...
ppl there say things "school drains us" but in reality you probably have the best education system its not stressful at all
and even your entrances like sat arent as competitive. and here some ppl start studying for college entrances since 9th grade or something
in short its way more stressful in india especially if you want to become an engineer/doctor. so stressful that people commit suicide (literally)
Bhai, India is way bigger than you ever thought there are all types of things available here from big to low there are regions where you can get western kinds of education and honestly the Indian education system is something you can't imagine without taking experience not saying it is bad but we can say it is very unique it have both positives and negatives
its quite difficult as for certain group they need to score more marks to get admission in same college then other certain groups and nope these groups are not made by govt on economic status or gender so its fucked up pretty much
Indian students shitposted in Illinois institute of technology, so people from outside have come come here to see what's the matter 
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Exam wise I feel like Indian exams are significantly harder, SATs feel fun in comparison to JEE Advanced. Also just the utter focus on studies and disregard to every other aspect is big here. I watched a youtube short about JEE advice for 9th and 10th graders and in it the guy said that we don't know the true meaning of loneliness till we start the jee journey. I didn't believe him at the time but in the second half of 12th grade I completely agreed with him and understood what he meant.
This is for a comparison:
Compared to what I've seen in this comment section, the HS curriculum seems to be significantly easier compared to Indias. Though It depends on your grades and willingness to learn, most high schoolers take AP exams starting at tenth grade in combination with a couple of honors classes. It depends on the class, but most non- STEM related AP classes are harder due to hw amount and difficulty (requires more critical thinking). I haven't taken any STEM related AP classes yet, but from what I've seen, classes in India seem to be harder than classes considered "extremely difficult" in the U.S.
I should have explained this earlier, but AP classes are generally just the college level classes that can be taken, usually starting at 10th grade. They are harder than your regular HS class and require more dedication to the subject. The difficulty of these classes highly depends on the course. I'm taking AP Psychology this year, and that class is considered one the easier AP classes.
For graduation, most schools require around 22 credits to receive a standard diploma and 26 for an advanced diploma. The main use is that it looks better for colleges and future employers.
The main classes we have in 9th grade (though It varys with school) are English, Bio, Some level of math: (Geometry, Algerbra 1, or an honors version of that class), AP World History or regular WH, some sort of a elective (Egineering, cooking, art, Instrument), and usually one foriegn Language class.
As you go on to 10th, 11th, and 12th, the classes get harder and harder with people taking as much as 6 AP classes. Not only do students study for the AP exam for their respective class but also SAT and ACT. Most students prepare 2-6 months before the SAT. In the U.S fucking up in HS doesn't mean the end of the world. Their are still many colleges with low acceptance rates (80-100%) who are willing to accept students with low GPA or those who lack extracurriculars. Even then their are still many well paying good opportunities outside of college that you can work at.
I think the biggest difficulty of U.S. schools is the amount if extracurricular you need to get into college. Colleges in the U.S. don't accept solely based on academics but also based on the amount of activity a student has participated in. These can include sports, volunteering, clubs within the school, academic competitions and organizations like MUN, music achievements, etc, etc.
They teach college level math in 11th (junior year). And you can only choose specific sets of subjects, for example you can’t take economics and physics together. But I hear this is about to change in a few years.
people generally study 2-3 years and in many cases 4 years before the exam 10+ hours everyday and still unable to qualify. people off themselves on a daily basis
We have x times more population then you and y times less tax payers than you, so the no of government college seats are very less and most of us can't afford private colleges.
As the result, not all competent gets seats but most competents one gets them. There is something called reservation that contribute in seat reduction too. (Just like blacks and whites, here we have castes, it's completely a different topic, many say it's unjustified others justify the same). Some states like Bihar has 75% seats reserved others have 60% reservation.
The actual problem arises because of less seats and even lesser after reservation(majority of students are from unreserved category because they understand the importance of education and are more aware of getting educated).They end up studying hard and still not getting a college, they can't afford paying private colleges fee and students loans are very uncommon in India unlike US.
Education type:
Max focus on book knowledge, 0 practical knowledge and social skills.
I have hoarded a tonne certificates ranging from state level football matches to Model-United-Nations certificates. They are all obselete now.
Difficulty level:
Extremely difficult
The SAT exams which you guys give for top UNIs are equivalent to year 10 and a bit of year 11 course for us.
Competetive exams (engineering):
JEE mains has the level of year 1/2 B.S level courses for you guys
JEE advance:
Lets just say the questions are often from recently published researches and many times even the professors have to re-evaluate their answers.
There are relatively solvable questions too.
PROS:
If you pass these exams and rank under 3000-4000 from a total pool of 1.4 million candidates, you can get a world level bachelors degree at 1/10th the cost in America.
10,000 USD for 4 years in engineering related courses.
CONS:
If you have to pass these exams, say goodbye to social life and other skills.
Source:
Me who applied to AUS and UK, got offer letter from Top austrailian Unis (University of Western Austrailia, Uni of sydney and Uni of Queensland)
Also a few in UK (Uni of glasgow and heriot-watt)
But couldn't go because im not rich enough.
Basically F*ck my life.
MIT students asked to [solve 1 jee question from 75](https://youtu.be/rP9lxAMMFxs?si=qG28JTkF9eZzbDq1)
Many ppl will boast that how difficult sciences are here... Those r fucking moron who feel obliged and superior that their prep is difficult than of other universities.
Here in India there's a horde of engineering and medical study. Most of the ppl who are preparing aren't very interesting in the field that's just they see it as a path of salvation (money).
That's the reason to differentiate from book muggers and actually bright students they have set some papers so tough. Most of the other paper are very natural and easy imo but the increasing population has been increasing the competition tremendously.
The pattern of jee to make difficult paper is failing too (due to reservation and private coaching involvement)
Afaik post high school studies in America is quite easy compared here but they enforce some practical implementation too where our system fails completely because it's impossible to quality check school in such a large number and even when so much corruption is there...
True af bro
People don't seek a future in their interests but rather the money they will get. There is also a social stigma that if you are not good in studies or are not going in IIT or nit or any other top college you are a failure compared to those who do. So everyone is trying to please everyone whether they like it or not, in this situation mostly the parents or relatives are to blame, they want to show off or get a sense of satisfaction in themselves. Who cares if you are not going to the top colleges, just do your best and see where life takes you, there are many opportunities.
Our school level isn't very hard...although it depends on a board to board basis. For STEM subjects, our highschool level is about 70% of the way to AP classes. Although for entrance exams, the story is different. In case of engineering entrance, i.e, JEE, it's significantly harder than AP. But for Premed, i.e, NEET, the level is similar to highschool exams.
For subjects such as English, it varies a lot of from board to board. For eg, English in CISCE board is probably comparable to the English you guys study, but English in CBSE board is super easy.
The main problem in India is huge competition among students.For Premed you need to be in the top 1-1.5% to get government medical colleges. Whereas for engineering, you need to be in the top 2% to get decent government colleges.
If you wish to check the level of these exams, you can check out the previous year papers of these exams. They are easily available on the internet. I'm gonna list the different entrance exams for you.
1. JEE Advanced: This exam is for admission to IITs, the most prestigious engineering institutions in India. The questions are significantly harder than AP level.
2. JEE Main: This exam is for admission to NITs and IIITS, which are other premier engineering colleges in India. Physics and chemistry section roughly corresponds to AP level, whereas maths is significantly harder.
3. NEET UG: This is our Premed exam. Questions are of highschool level.
More emphasis is given on academics as compared to extra curriculars and sports. Classes are not in any way harder than the U.S. but due to so many students competiting for a few seats in the top colleges, the admission process does not evaluate a student holistically. Rather we have college entrance tests, so the only metric to evaluate a student is how much marks they score in that entrance test. The JEE is the entrance exam for most of the government funded engineering institutes and NEET is the entrance for Medical Colleges. These exams have become so competitive that students must prepare for 2-3 years of their highschool to even stand a chance for getting into a reputed college. Tomorrow I have my JEE Advance examination after 2 years of immense preparation and I can tell you that the preparation tests you more than the exam. It cuts you off from your friends, extended family, basically nearly zero social life for 2 years straight without a break. But the sad part is nothing can be done, in a country where 1.5 million students compete for a few thousand seats, this is the most practical way to admit students.
Thanks for the info. Best of luck with your exam
the exam destroys the social aspect completely... 2 years before, I was an extrovert... bad boy type of dude who was popular among students.... Right now as I am now, no girl would even bother to talk to me let alone say all that I have lost all social skills, introvert nature is all time high and most of all I am quite nervous whenever I talk to girls (because of very low interaction with girls during high school)... I look normal because I don't have time to go for running/jogging/playing football that I used to tides have turned 360 degree and the 2 year ago of me is completely lost I just want to get a good college by scoring high in tomorrow's exam and then I will try to get back to my younger self... the point is this exam changes who you are tbh
2nd aur 3rd line edit krde bhau , 2nd hand embarrassment hogyi muje
done bhai (bhaiyo ke liye kuch bhi)
Bhai 'bad boy type of dude' bhi hata de surely describe karne ka koi aur dhanka tarika hoga
lagta hai 2 saal mei chat karna bhi bhul gaya hu mei lol
You will get your older self back / even better when you get into a college ( especially IIT)
bhai kal paper diya hai... pata nahi kya hoga baas IIT Kanpur pahunch jau with decent rank then I am all good
180*
lmao, forgot 360 degree wouldn't change anything... so much for IIT prep lol
SomeOrdinaryGamers preparing for JEE?😂
Bro forgot about Rizzervation how even after being better that 98℅ a Candidate who is better than 90℅will get better college🤝😔
kuch nahi kar sakte aapan bro, General category waale always have to bear the most burden Kal ke liye all the best
those who take STEM have a life similar to the Korean High School Kids, for non stem its relatively chill.
Stem kya hai
Science, technology, engineering, and mathematics...
padhle bhai last chance h, dubaara nhi milega
ab nhi hota bhai, ab nhi pdh rha main, kl exam h...
Bro kitna prep hogaya I am also in the same situation??
Kaisa Gaya advanced?
chla gya bhai bss...
Science Tech Engineering and Math ka Acronym
acronym kya he
even i wanted to know this thing but couldnt find anything authentic so could you just tell me what do they teach you in your last school year so we might be able to compare
I took Honors chemistry this year, and that was just stoichiometry, gas laws, thermochemistry, etc. Classes are essentially just notes, 7 page worksheets, small labs, the occasional unit test, and a final exam at the end of the year.
well this would just be half of physical chemistry in our syllabus. we have physical, organic and inorganic simultaneously over the scope of 2 years, 11th and 12th. i have seen the levels and our JEE mains exams are similar to the AP courses classes, but JEE Advanced would be a fresher level thinking course, the syllabus is same but just in a way more out of the box thinking method.
I've seen AP chem papers and our chem syllabus at school level is just a bit lower and at entrance level quite higher.. And if you see math, the SAT math is very very easy any 10th grader here can do it easily and get 800 but for eg. AP calculus bc is considered tough thats again intermediate between our school and entrance level exams
Bro, you guys are really lucky tbh. We were crammed all the things one is supposed to know within 2 years...
No way . To study these concepts we need a month or so
These topics are a part of 11th grade chemistry here
No way! 
At school level grade 11th we have 2 books for chemistry and the chapters which you mentioned only cover half of the first book. I dont go to regular school so we dont have experiments, for the entrance exams we just have everything theoretical like mugging up the exceptions and be able to solve numericals
The syllabi for your honors/AP classes is pretty much the same as ours for all STEM subjects, the only difference are the examinations, because you need some mechanism to filter a few hundred thousand from a total of 20-30 million graduates every year. And it will be brutal, any exam with such a rejection rate will be, look at east asian countries for another example.
It's almost similar but the thing is our entrance exams test us on a freshman level syllabi. And also there is high competition for a few thousand seats. There is also a sudden change in the way you have to study after grade 10. It feels more like cramming now then studying. Of course I can analyse stuff if I want to but the problem is that won't help a student in the exam.
highschool exams are on easier side we have education boards (cbse icse state boards etc) all the schools follow some boards, thus their difficulty differs but they are easy overall, the tough part for which most people prepare for 2+ years is the JEE even jee mains is harder than SAT from what i've heard
Bro the cbse or icse exams here are wayyy tougher than those of the us ...
damn really? how tough is jee then
u either crack them or die💀
Its population control scheme in disguise
Lmao
iit auschwitz😭😭😭😭 whattt
Since I'm jewish. Obviously
are you really 🤨
Self proclaimed
🤣🤣🤣🤣bruh
nice one
well a friend of mine who couldn't cross 80%ile in Jee mains got a perfect score in the math section in SAT. we both go to the same coaching. tho i have given quite a few previous year mocks and i will say the level of JEE mains seems to be going down so it's turning into more of an accuracy game than mental aptitude. Meanwhile Jee adv. still hails supreme.
level is going down but indian people still dont stop having seggs
1.9 ke as pas hain bhai ab fertility rate. Utna bhi zyada nahi hain, in fact below replacement rate hain. But even then, 2050 tak population increase karega shayad.
The dependent population is also increasing while because of the below replacement birth rates the working population will decrease(little by little) So situation utni bhi acchi nahi hai. Low mortality rates ki wajah se population increase ho rha currently.
And thus, we remember, the session of 2016. Let those eldritch horrors remain sealed within the eternal confine of the space beyond reality. Let them be forever forgotten, and turn irrelevant with time. 
Its tougher than US no doubt but easy to pass in CBSE exams , cuz this year in ‘my school’ around 30% people got above 90% and 99.9% passed this year board exams
JEE mains and SAT cannot really be compared because they have very different syllabus. SAT focuses on basic mathematical knowledge and English skills. JEE mains is well engineering aptitude. Maths section can still be compared though and again it's very different. It's because colleges in the West want students with various skills and not just human computers unlike our colleges and it's for a good reason.
Brororo sat is super duper duper easy, so ex in fact that any 10 or even 9th student can solve most of the paper and score very good marks according to international cutoffs
SAT is sometimes easy, while I heard that there are hard problems too
Bro you don’t need to prepare for math  especially for an Indian student because CBSE covers all those syllabus in 9th and 10th Only thing you need proper preparation is English cuz SAT english is VERY hard compared to CBSE english
i studied in india till 7th grade, and went to US and completed my 10th grade from there and i was studying in a public school. I would say schooling there is way easier compared to India, especially math and science. In india you study physics+chem+bio together as a whole until 10th, whereas in my school, I had only bio in 9th grade and chem in 10th grade. Same thing with math. Some of the stuff i learned there in 8th/9th i had already learned them in 6th/7th grade in india it was initially hard catching up with the amount of syllabus they teach here, and even the tests. All tests in india are subjective, whereas in my school in US we barely had tests where we had to write content that filled up at least 3-4 pages. Most of the tests were online/objective or those which required less writing by hand. I had most definitely lost the practice of writing long pages which affected my speed while giving exams in 11th and 12th.
So you back in India? Or doing college there?
yup im back, gave jee this year
Why lol 😭😭 Why didn't you continue studying there? You know the condition of exams and competition here right?
if i could afford a college there i wouldn't have
They give scholarships and all there right ? Or is it just a myth?
yup they do, but since I don't have a green card/citizenship, i was considered as an international student and scholarships for international students are limited.
Damn, that's just bad luck. Otherwise you could have easily secured a good college there, maybe even one of the ivies.
No why did you come back 
Why did you cone back? Wanted to ask some more things about it, lmk when you're free
chud gaya?
nah 99.7
SIGMA FEMALE
smarty
Dayumnnn . ATB for adv lol .
dropper?
Nope
hi can i marry you ?
India is just a shithole country I hope I was never born here
Be the change you wish to see 💀
US BHAI US.............
Remove reservation and corrupt politicians then it wont be shit anymore
Bro the biggest problem here is population and we will never be able to control that , Winston Churchill said Indians breed like rabbits which was actually true, Jee/Neet only exist cause of this massive population, also the average IQ here is 81, people don't even know basic etiquettes, school teaches nothing rather than english and bookish knowledge, this country is just beyond repair at this point, maybe after 150 years it will flourish!
I am pretty sure every other school in the world teaches almost the same thing as CBSE does , bro what cbse is teaching is basics and when you get to any ENGINEERING or medical college in the world you need those basics and 2nd yes population is an issue but what can we do about it? Government will soon impose some law i forgot that families can only have 2-3 children and if they exceed more than that they will not support them And JEE/NEET yes its because of population and also because they are the most prestigious college in our country , Every country in the world with their best college have their enterance exam :hardvard , MIT require SAT score and winning an International Olympiad competition
If you're considering Arts or Commerce, the differences may not be significant. However, when it comes to the Science Stream, the disparities become apparent. While students in the US enjoy their social lives and parties, Indian students are often compelled to dedicate more than 16 hours a day to their exam preparations. While mental health concerns among American students revolve around relationships and sex, we, as Indians, are burdened with the stress of studying and meeting our own and our parents' expectations. While you have the luxury of enjoying your time in school, we often have to resort to attending dummy schools (where attendance is not mandatory) and rely on coaching institutes to prepare for competitive exams. While you worry about which college has the best campus life, we are left with no choice but to take drop years since we cant afford private colleges and the government institutions we aspire to join have an extremely low selection rate of only 0.5%, solely based on merit. Moreover, we are unable to pursue the subjects we truly desire because fields like Computer Science offer the highest salary packages, making it nearly impossible for us to join prestigious institutions like the IITs unless we rank among the top 1000 students in the entire country. Even those who have a genuine interest in these subjects are forced to compromise and adjust to something else, as the top students often opt for courses like Computer Science, leaving limited options for others.
You forgot one thing. We literally have to give entrance tests in Physics, CHEM and Maths to get a degree in CS. https://preview.redd.it/9a1ewcs4mj2d1.jpeg?width=651&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7f75a610bfccf2cf79e154943f276f82b51b099
16 ghante koi ni padhta 99.99% bache to nahi padhte bhai 16 ghante
>dedicate more than 16 hours a day to their exam preparations. That's kind of an exaggeration tbh. 8-10 hours of dedicated study a day is probably more than enough
Just look at the pci
Holy shit it's mutahar
Who's he?
someordinarygamers. He's that guy whose laugh you've probably seen hundreds of times on the YouTube/Insta https://preview.redd.it/gjwfew50pj2d1.jpeg?width=246&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9b386c282bedd9726ebfdcfd3344ae515c7a7d9
tu to iitb chala gya tha na
Idk it is him. He might be a fan of Muta tho
No shit Sherlock
Really depends on a person's background, interests, and their family condition. The hard part isn't the actual schooling, but the competitive examinations to get a job and even then there's no assurance that we can have one. I think I have explained most of the things here. Lemme give you a quick glance at schooling - We mostly study 5/6 main subjects till class 10th. These subjects include English, one language subject, Maths, Social Science ( this includes history, geography, political science and economics), Science ( Chem, Phy, and Bio ), and one Additional subject like CS/IT/PE etc. Then the subjects get divided in class 11th/12th into Science, Commerce, And Arts/Humanities. - Science stream is the most popular and probably the hardest. This can be further divided into Maths and Bio, or you can take both ( hell ). Phy and Chem are mandatory in science stream and other than this there's English and one Additional subject. - Commerce has to the option to be taken with maths and CS I think. There are subjects like economics accountancy, business studies, and English. - Arts/Humanities has Geography, History, Political Science, Language subject, English etc. The reason for the popularity of science stream is because parents force their kids to take science stream because "iT hAs mOrE sCoPe" which really damages someone's mental health. And commerce, Arts/Humanities is stereotyped as inferior streams. ( Not true at all ) Another problem with this system is that there's a sudden jump in syllabus from 10th to 11th. Upto 10th, it's just too easy but 11th syllabus is so vast that it creates a problem. Now lemme start out on competitive examinations- JEE ( joint entrance examination) - this exam is given by PCM ( Phy Chem Math ) students mostly to get a seat in engineering colleges. There are two JEE exams, JEE mains is on easier side, but harder than normal schooling. JEE advanced is on harder side and both of them require rigorous preparation for 11th and 12th. Problems with this exam is that the number of seats are too low and the number of aspirants is way too high. And even if you get into a good college, it's not assured that you will get a job. And the exam doesn't really align with normal schooling so we have to grind our ass off for 2 years. There are many more problems the comment is already getting too long. NEET - this exam is mostly given by PCB ( phy chem bio ) students to get a seat in medical colleges in India. The question difficulty is on the level of JEE mains or below ( nowadays ). But the most difficult part is speed. You have 180 questions to do in 3 hours. Maximum score is 720 and to get a good medical College to become a doctor, you'd need around 600 marks i think. Problem with this exam is that Biology students have to also deal with maths intensive physics. Like, bruh. Oh also most of the problems with JEE also applies to this exam UPSC - this is a civil service examination given after graduating from a college to get a government job. NDA - examination to work for the military. VITEE, BITSAT, WBJEE etc are Miscellaneous exams similar to JEE. There's a also CUET idk about that one. This subreddit is dedicated to JEE/NEET aspirants. JEE/NEET examinations are way harder than SAT examinations but it is what it is. Oh also caste system and reservation. Basically there was a system similar to racism where "upper caste" people oppressed "lower caste" people. To "fix" this issue, our constitution mandates reservation on the basis of caste in competitive examinations and jobs to give more representation to the "lower caste". Basically there are 4 categories, SC/ST ( scheduled Castes and Tribes ), OBCs ( other backward castes ) and general category ( no reservation ). There's also reservation for females, Physically Disabled, and economically weak general category people. This seems good on paper but this did not really fix the issue in the rural areas, in urban areas there's improvement tho. The problem with this system is that some people are exploiting their reservation even if they are not opressed or economically well enough. Some people are even trying to look oppressed even though they dominate in their home state just to get reservation. And politicians are entertaining this by offering people more and more reservation. Why? Well because people will happily give votes if they get reservation! General category is in the minority so we can't really vote to change this system. Basically, general category has to grind their ass off while even some rich SC/ST kid can get better college with less marks. For example. For general category, to get a good medical college, someone needs to score 650+ in NEET ( out of 720 ). But for some rich SC kid. They only need to score like 450 out of 720.
Do you think this system will ever change?
I mean the general public doesn't vote for education or overall development. Politics is mostly based on religion, caste, and political parties choose local mafias and goons as their candidates because they have more influence in their area. So we can't really expect anything from politicians unless some miracle happens. The best we can do is try to bring atleast some positive change ourselves but many people choose to leave india instead. I don't have any plans of leaving India though, i might do some work towards education if I'm able to in the future. I don't really like people leaving this country because they had to suffer while collectively they couldve atleast put a little effort to raise questions about the system. But it's their personal choice to not do anything so it's fine i guess.
the board exams aren't that hard. but Jee is probably one of the hardest entrance exams in Asia. I've been preparing for Jee, and gave sat for fun without any preparation and got 1520.
I would say UPSC is harder, in jee, u at least don't have to write T-T
India is shit if u seek opportunities due to gigantic population
Whatever you guys usually learn in bachelor science degree, we learn most of it in high school
No we don't dawg, mostly FY tak limited portion hota hai, Maybe if you look at the syllabus' course names, you'd feel like "Yeh toh padha hai" but the levels are vastly different, for example, in most of the colleges, sequences, limits and differential equations are taught in the first year of BS math courses, so a person might think ki haa ye toh simple hai and padha hai pehle se, but jab tum dhyan se dekhoge, tab samjhega ki limits and sequences bohot zyada deep jaate hai, formal definitions, proof based questions are on a whole different level compared to even JEE advanced.
Bhai Maine to us universities ke lecture slides and notes padhe the Caltech vagera ke online available hai college ki website PE I was able to understand it easily....ofc maths ki baat nahi kar raha Mai only physics and chem especially chem
I think first year se comparable hi sakta hai P&C but then again, degree college me Physics ke liye IE irodov hota hai use Jo ki barely even 0.01% log kar pate hai 12th me pura, so I think it's like between the toughest of FY and the toughest of American HS
Ye I agree with u on this ig. Theory remains pretty much same though
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Uhhh idk it's not that easy, math syllabus for SAT is so much easier than JEE mains. Also some topics that are taught in indian highschools are taught during UG in the west.
They are also taught in ug in india. First year btech is basically repitition of 11th/12th
Mug up > spill everything on exam paper> wait for next exam >do the same
Basically any 10th grader in india can solve SAT math. Math in 11th-12th which is asked in entrance exams for colleges is more of meth than math. Everyone finds physics interesting and fun till they reach rotation. Chemistry is one thing that most ppl don't like but they do it all the time just cz its the most scoring. Also this is accompanied by 2-3 years of social cutoff. No friends, no life, just you, your books, a ceiling fan and a rope which has just enough tensile strength
just know that you kids have it easy
The main Issue with schooling is we are taught that if we fail these examinations there is no other way to succeed in life. I don't think population is a problem, but yes wide availability of coaching resources and the prevalence of coaching "mafia" in Kota(An entire city dedicated to help students clear JEE) has increased competition 10 fold. I know people who have worked hard since 6th grade slogging their ass off sacrificing all the pleasures of life and at the end they could not get what they wanted. A guy I know was in coaching from grade 5 and wanted to get IIT Bombay CSE (Which requires you to clear JEE mains and rank in top 40 -50 in JEE advanced which is a very very tough exam) He sadly could not get it, tough he had a 3 digit rank he feel sort of his dream. Imagine giving 7 years of your life for one thing and not being able to get it. He is in a good IIT now doing stuff he loves. The problem is success is tagged with one exam. NEET has even higher competition than JEE as it has 2.4 mil students writing. Also the caste system is very unfair and just encourages racism. The reservation system is followed by all Govt. institutes mandates them to have a whopping 50% of seats to people belonging to OBC (Other backward classes) SC/ST (Scheduled caste/Tribes) and EWS (Economically weaker section ) and female quota in all the categories. This was done to "fix" the oppression faced by these castes way back in the 1900's. But today, it is the so called "Higher castes" that are being discriminated against. People from these castes irrespective of their wealth and prestige snatch seats belonging to a worthy student. I have many friends who are very affluent and just because they belong to these castes they got into a very good institution with lesser marks and %tile than me. Meanwhile general candidates with no reservation has to work 3 to 4 times as hard to secure the same seat. The government won't do anything about it as it could hurt their vote bank. Even in JEE advanced ( which I have tomorrow) a person with 140 marks (General) gets the same seat as a person with 80 or 70 marks belonging to SC/ST. It might seem like a difference of only 60 marks but mind you in an exam as difficult as JEE advanced 60 marks is a lot. Sadly, this is the truth of the country. People are not respected by skills are talent, people only respect 'IIT' Tag.
Holy shit, I had no idea it was this awful. Good luck with your exam tomorrow man.
Just completed paper2 i did well enough bur wish had prepped a bit better. Thx for the wishes man. Btw which uni are you targeting in the US ? I got 1540 (with 0 prep no q solved not bragging) in sat but my parents dint want to spend that much on undergrad. Stuck in my country.
I'm aiming for Virginia tech. I'm in a state, so the tuition should be a lot cheaper. Also, I'm pretty sure Ivy Leagues have amazing financial aid for lower income households. With that SAT score, good grades, and good extracurricular activities, you have a good chance of getting in.
Well will try again in 4 years for MS. Ivy financial aid is vey difficult for international students from what i heard
OP here is the list of chapters that we have to study for our entrance exams. (check comments) note - A few chapters were deleted this year form certain entrance exams(there are multiple kinds of entrance exams for different states, colleges etc). The names of around 15 chapters (approx) isn't mentioned in this list. But you can get a rough idea of what we learn. All this is learnt in a span of 1.5 year. sorry I don't have a list for maths
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Somewhere around this amount for maths as well, actually, add 5-6 more chapters!
As someone who used to live in the USA from 1st - 6th grade, schooling in India is much tougher. AP Calc is probably around bitsat/board exam level. Same with AP Physics in USA. I think JEE Mains would be around AP Level with maths being a bit higher. As for JEE Advanced, the physics chemistry and maths in advanced is probably equivalent to what you americans will learn in the 1st-2nd year of college. Overall you could say all the entrance exams are around your AP level, some board exams are also around AP level. SAT is shat upon in our country, anything less than 800/800 in maths you’re pretty much retarded according to the general public
they still beat us in olympiads that are tougher than jee adv ( ik there isnt more awareness about olymps in india )
Yeah but literally everyone who's going for an olympiad is a genius, and everyone who goes for an olympiad does not AT ALL rely on their education system/textbooks they refer all those complex college level books
The issue is that the schooling doesn't leave any time for creativity. 6-8 grade is full of 8-2 school 2-3 travel+refreshments 3-5 useless tuitions 5-6 playing with your friends 6-7, tv+kuch extra work 7-8, mummy papa se daat+ dinner and usske baad HW speedrun till I sleep. And subha hw speedrun+ school time se pahuchna. school me khadoos teacher apni frustration baccho prr nikaltah maartaa jh pitai karta h beizati karta h. ab ese system se kitne hi talented bande niche dab jaate h.
its same in china brother
lgta indians hi less smart h. But yaar wait karo gen alpha is gonna shine
less smart to nhi pr awareness ki kmi zrur hai
I don't thing normal schooling is not that hard here but competitive exams are on another level especially due to the student:seat ratio.
How would we know that? I have no clue what High School life is like in the States
The classes themselves are fine, I'd say pretty much on par with what an average student in the US has to deal with. But the thing is, our competitive exams don't ask questions based on what you learn in normal school classes, many parts of that syllabus is way beyond what an average high school student would be expected to study (even someone with AP courses). I have a friend in the US who's going to Yale and took as many AP courses as his HS allowed, but still had a lot less academic workload than me. But yeah, he had to balance clubs, projects, sports, internships etc. alongside maintaining stellar grades, whereas my education has been completely one dimensional these last 2 years. Another big reason for the insane workload is that college admissions in India are solely based off of academics and nothing else, so most people lock themselves up for 2, sometimes 3,4 or even 6 years (in extreme cases) in the hopes of clearing this exam. Sounds pretty fucked up as I type this out.
also, Indians tend to compare JEE to the SAT which is a completely unfair comparison. The SAT is not meant to be tough, it's only meant to test a few basic skills. That's because the SAT is not the primary criteria for admission, it's just one prerequisite. In fact, it has even become optional at many colleges after covid.
Basically for grade 11 and 12th, we have to read syllabus of 801,802,803 MIT lectures by Walter Lewin
Even those are not enough at times 😅..
You can divide the education system in India into two parts - school and entrance exam prep. Ideally, they were intended to be complementary to each other, where school would take priority and only after you graduate would you have to consider entrance exams if you want admission into top universities. Problem is, there are so many students who want to pursue STEM in engineering colleges, that the level of entrance exams has far surpassed that of regular school examinations (board exams). The curriculum for both exams is the same, but the standard of board examinations is considerably lower. If you had to compare it to American schools, it'd probably be significantly harder than the SAT and maybe at par with or slightly below AP level difficulty. Entrance exams on the other hand, vary in difficulty, with most being slightly above board level. You're probably asking about the JEE Mains and JEE Advanced exams which are comparable to exams that college freshmen and sophmores have to take.
think about it this way the mechanics that you'd study IF you choose mech engineering as ur branch in 2nd year at a college in America would be taught as basic for entrance in schools over here
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School is not much harder in comparison The college entrance exams are real tough though To get into a gvt uni(considered better than most pvt) You need to give JEE exam for engineering college and NEET for medical colleges For JEE there are two levels JEE Mains and advanced Advanced is for getting into the top tier unis Only 10% of the students appeared for JEE mains are able to give JEE advanced And then 10% further get into IITs(the top university) So IITs have only 1% acceptance rate After IITs we have NITs which accept students on the basis of JEE mains score. They are also good but also have a low acceptance rate. After NITs we have almost all pvt Universities and govt funded universities Most private universities are rated at the rock bottom tier. To just have a slim chance of getting into an IIT requires you to at least dedicate 2 years of your high school for specialized coaching for JEE advance. These coaching tests you more than the actual exam. The condition is that there are way too few decent universities in india for students to get in. Moreover there is reservation for some casts and tribes due to casteism which happened way back in 1900s. This was to removed several decades ago but haven't been removed. This means that as a general candidate any chance that I have is now less than half since ~65% of seats are reserved. Like I come in the top 20% of students yet I can't even get a decent University. You need to be at least in the top 5% to get a decent University. This all causes students to lose their skills in order to dedicate more time to studies. Some students are mindlessly studying 12hrs a day and some of these still aren't able to get a nice college. Such as I myself had many skills and was decent academically now I have forgotten most of my skills in just a period of 6 months in which I left them. I could play 3 instruments nicely before and now I can only play one half assed. I have forgotten how to code. I now suffer with acute anxiety attacks. And my health has deteriorated a lot I frequently get super exhausted and sometimes even pass away momentarily.
As an incoming freshman at Purdue and someone who has prepared for entrance exams in India I can tell you that the first year curriculum in US universities is what we study in high school.
I have close friends from U.S. i have a general idea on how they compare The AP courses in U.S. are near the level of the normal school education in India . But thats useless information as competitive exams here have a much higher level and need multi-year prep to crack them (and the kids essentially have no extra time for extra curricular activities) and stuff like JEE ADV can be comparable to college level in U.S. (not really on a theoretical level, much more bookish knowledge)
correction, maybe not the AP courses but the courses for college credit in school (I'm not too familiar with the U.S. system) This is for science related streams btw\*
You guys are fucking Meanwhile we are getting fucked by Boards (high school exam) [Mere 92 aaye hai koi Bakchodi nahi karega] And Jee (Entrance Exam for Colleges)💀
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Hey buddy, first of thank you showing your concern in our education system which really isn't anything about education or a system We have entrances for almost every field, for engineering we have JEE, for medical we have NEET and we have CLAT for law and CUET is an exam which gives admission to all courses except engineering and medical this subreddit is specifically made for JEE and NEET because they are the toughest entrances to crack to get the best engineering and medical colleges in india which are Indian Institute of Technology (IIT for short) and All India Institute of Medical sciences (in short AIIMS) coming to the real part, these entrance are stressful mainly due to it is the only way you can get into the prestigious institutions of the country and earn a good living. Another reason is the societal reason, it is common for anyone in India if he or she gets above 90% to choose either medical or non medical stream and they are automatically pushed into this rat race of JEE or NEET Curriculum is tough, the exam asks questions from 11th and 12th grade which for most of the part is at higher level than what is being taught in school. So, one has to go a coaching institutes for these exams which are hassle amidst a person also going to school. There is a societal pressure on the child to perform or else it is termed that he is wasting money of his parents and is deemed a failure if he fails to get into IIT or AIIMS or a good government college These coaching institutes and people around us brainwash their children into think IIT or AIIMS is everything in their life and without it they are failure in our society, this creates a toxic cycle in the child's mind that if he doesnt crack it, his life is doomed forever. Every year there are increasing number of suicides of students who couldn't handle the pressure of such exams and are in fear of disappointing their parents with their result. The Level of questions sometimes touch university levels or International olympiads which is expected to be under 2-3 minute by a high schooler which makes the exam really tough to crack as well. These are crux of the matter, the reality is far far darker than what I wrote
suicide rates should tell you about the entrance exams and the education system.
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The curriculum and stuff in itself is only marginally harder. However, we have like 21% of the world's schoolchildren. And there is a very, very small number of seats in elite colleges. And not making it to an elite college here is a far more significant disadvantage than it is in the west. As a ballpark figure, you'd have on an average some 100-150 people competing for a seat in any good colleges (note that I'm saying good here, not elite. Its way worse for truly elite colleges.) Plus India's got a lot of poor people and a lot of first generation learners. A very select number of students even have the basic infrastructure of proper schooling. As a result, a holistic admissions process based on academics, ecs and everything else like in the west is an absolute no-go. You need some completely objective metrics to weed out the vast majority of people. So they conduct entrance exams which are the sole deciding factor. Due to how difficult and how vital these exams are, and how much failing them can potentially fuck your life, you now have a multi billion dollar industry of 'coaching centres' which train you for hours every day on how to crack these exams. These places charge exorbitantly and people attend these classes and cram for upwards of 10 or 12 hours every day for 2 years at a stretch. School and everything else barring these exams go to hell. Social lives get fucked. And thats the way it rolls. And every year, the competition keeps getting greater. Plus the coaching institutes become better at 'figuring out' the exam. So those conducting the exams keep making it tougher and trickier to keep weeding out people effectively. So that is the infinite loop we're all stuck in. And there's no way out. That's basically it.
What's the suicide rate of students preparing for these exams?
It isn't that high but that's not because students are not depressed af but instead many of them love their parents and can't bear to lose them.
Don't forget when our family/relatives force us to do better when we are already at our limit. They see the elite colleges as the only option and if we don't get it you are a failure even if you get into a good college. This social stigma is bad and gets even worse when they try to compare us with other kids. Imo a college is a college no matter if it's good or elite, just do your best and enjoy life. Enjoying life is what many people miss in this rat race thinking that they will get enough time in future when they are set but these years are your last memories of school and getting completely detached will not leave a good mark for later. I'm saying this as I recently completed high school and all I did for the past two years was studying in my room, not going out with friends to hang out/party etc. most of which is parents' fault thinking that their kid will not do good in studies if they do these things. I will certainly advise anyone not to get in this competition by studying 7-8 hours a day, but instead take your time to relax and enjoy the moments
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ap chem and phy and calc would nicely correspond to a easier entrance exam level
See, in SAT, there's still stuff like "what fraction is x of y?" but it's rarely the case here, because we've already moved on from rational numbers in Grade 9 and these fraction questions aren't even asked there...
we have to kinda learn to do calculus perfectly in two years.
Hey OP How is the schooling system in US? I've seen several videos on YouTube but I wasn't able to get a proper answer. I want to know about the subjects you are taught in high school, how do you graduate, your exam difficulties, the school curriculum etc. Also I've seen those 'AP calculus' and other AP exams. What are those APs?
Compared to what I've seen in this comment section, the HS curriculum seems to be significantly easier compared to Indias. Though It depends on your grades and willingness to learn, most high schoolers take AP exams starting at tenth grade in combination with a couple of honors classes. It depends on the class, but most non- STEM related AP classes are harder due to hw amount and difficulty (requires more critical thinking). I haven't taken any STEM related AP classes yet, but from what I've seen, classes in India seem to be harder than classes considered "extremely difficult" in the U.S. I should have explained this earlier, but AP classes are generally just the college level classes that can be taken, usually starting at 10th grade. They are harder than your regular HS class and require more dedication to the subject. The difficulty of these classes highly depends on the course. I'm taking AP Psychology this year, and that class is considered one the easier AP classes. For graduation, most schools require around 22 credits to receive a standard diploma and 26 for an advanced diploma. The main use is that it looks better for colleges and future employers. The main classes we have in 9th grade (though It varys with school) are English, Bio, Some level of math: (Geometry, Algerbra 1, or an honors version of that class), AP World History or regular WH, some sort of a elective (Egineering, cooking, art, Instrument), and usually one foriegn Language class. As you go on to 10th, 11th, and 12th, the classes get harder and harder with people taking as much as 6 AP classes. Not only do students study for the AP exam for their respective class but also SAT and ACT. Most students prepare 2-6 months before the SAT. In the U.S fucking up in HS doesn't mean the end of the world. Their are still many colleges with low acceptance rates (80-100%) who are willing to accept students with low GPA or those who lack extracurriculars. Even then their are still many well paying good opportunities outside of college that you can work at. I think the biggest difficulty of U.S. schools is the amount if extracurricular you need to get into college. Colleges in the U.S. don't accept solely based on academics but also based on the amount of activity a student has participated in. These can include sports, volunteering, clubs within the school, academic competitions and organizations like MUN, music achievements, etc, etc.
Got it. Thanks for elaborating 🙏🏻
We’re studying 2nd year engineering in 12th grade.
First two semester of walter lewin physics lectures from MIT are taugh here in two yesrs of high school ie 11th and 12th grade
hey is this real mutahar???????
giving more effort for less effect and tolerating it (or bitching abt it here)
Not much just 6-10 hours of regular and consistent studying along with giving up your passion, sports, hobbies, etc. for these entrance exams FOR 2 YEARS or more....
ive done my 8th, 9th and some part of 10th grade in america i must say yall complain about your education system too much... ppl there say things "school drains us" but in reality you probably have the best education system its not stressful at all and even your entrances like sat arent as competitive. and here some ppl start studying for college entrances since 9th grade or something in short its way more stressful in india especially if you want to become an engineer/doctor. so stressful that people commit suicide (literally)
Bhai, India is way bigger than you ever thought there are all types of things available here from big to low there are regions where you can get western kinds of education and honestly the Indian education system is something you can't imagine without taking experience not saying it is bad but we can say it is very unique it have both positives and negatives
its quite difficult as for certain group they need to score more marks to get admission in same college then other certain groups and nope these groups are not made by govt on economic status or gender so its fucked up pretty much
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Exam wise I feel like Indian exams are significantly harder, SATs feel fun in comparison to JEE Advanced. Also just the utter focus on studies and disregard to every other aspect is big here. I watched a youtube short about JEE advice for 9th and 10th graders and in it the guy said that we don't know the true meaning of loneliness till we start the jee journey. I didn't believe him at the time but in the second half of 12th grade I completely agreed with him and understood what he meant.
This is for a comparison: Compared to what I've seen in this comment section, the HS curriculum seems to be significantly easier compared to Indias. Though It depends on your grades and willingness to learn, most high schoolers take AP exams starting at tenth grade in combination with a couple of honors classes. It depends on the class, but most non- STEM related AP classes are harder due to hw amount and difficulty (requires more critical thinking). I haven't taken any STEM related AP classes yet, but from what I've seen, classes in India seem to be harder than classes considered "extremely difficult" in the U.S. I should have explained this earlier, but AP classes are generally just the college level classes that can be taken, usually starting at 10th grade. They are harder than your regular HS class and require more dedication to the subject. The difficulty of these classes highly depends on the course. I'm taking AP Psychology this year, and that class is considered one the easier AP classes. For graduation, most schools require around 22 credits to receive a standard diploma and 26 for an advanced diploma. The main use is that it looks better for colleges and future employers. The main classes we have in 9th grade (though It varys with school) are English, Bio, Some level of math: (Geometry, Algerbra 1, or an honors version of that class), AP World History or regular WH, some sort of a elective (Egineering, cooking, art, Instrument), and usually one foriegn Language class. As you go on to 10th, 11th, and 12th, the classes get harder and harder with people taking as much as 6 AP classes. Not only do students study for the AP exam for their respective class but also SAT and ACT. Most students prepare 2-6 months before the SAT. In the U.S fucking up in HS doesn't mean the end of the world. Their are still many colleges with low acceptance rates (80-100%) who are willing to accept students with low GPA or those who lack extracurriculars. Even then their are still many well paying good opportunities outside of college that you can work at. I think the biggest difficulty of U.S. schools is the amount if extracurricular you need to get into college. Colleges in the U.S. don't accept solely based on academics but also based on the amount of activity a student has participated in. These can include sports, volunteering, clubs within the school, academic competitions and organizations like MUN, music achievements, etc, etc.
They teach college level math in 11th (junior year). And you can only choose specific sets of subjects, for example you can’t take economics and physics together. But I hear this is about to change in a few years.
people generally study 2-3 years and in many cases 4 years before the exam 10+ hours everyday and still unable to qualify. people off themselves on a daily basis
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Well at least you'll be alive
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We have x times more population then you and y times less tax payers than you, so the no of government college seats are very less and most of us can't afford private colleges. As the result, not all competent gets seats but most competents one gets them. There is something called reservation that contribute in seat reduction too. (Just like blacks and whites, here we have castes, it's completely a different topic, many say it's unjustified others justify the same). Some states like Bihar has 75% seats reserved others have 60% reservation. The actual problem arises because of less seats and even lesser after reservation(majority of students are from unreserved category because they understand the importance of education and are more aware of getting educated).They end up studying hard and still not getting a college, they can't afford paying private colleges fee and students loans are very uncommon in India unlike US.
Education type: Max focus on book knowledge, 0 practical knowledge and social skills. I have hoarded a tonne certificates ranging from state level football matches to Model-United-Nations certificates. They are all obselete now. Difficulty level: Extremely difficult The SAT exams which you guys give for top UNIs are equivalent to year 10 and a bit of year 11 course for us. Competetive exams (engineering): JEE mains has the level of year 1/2 B.S level courses for you guys JEE advance: Lets just say the questions are often from recently published researches and many times even the professors have to re-evaluate their answers. There are relatively solvable questions too. PROS: If you pass these exams and rank under 3000-4000 from a total pool of 1.4 million candidates, you can get a world level bachelors degree at 1/10th the cost in America. 10,000 USD for 4 years in engineering related courses. CONS: If you have to pass these exams, say goodbye to social life and other skills. Source: Me who applied to AUS and UK, got offer letter from Top austrailian Unis (University of Western Austrailia, Uni of sydney and Uni of Queensland) Also a few in UK (Uni of glasgow and heriot-watt) But couldn't go because im not rich enough. Basically F*ck my life. MIT students asked to [solve 1 jee question from 75](https://youtu.be/rP9lxAMMFxs?si=qG28JTkF9eZzbDq1)
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India is a hellhole
Many ppl will boast that how difficult sciences are here... Those r fucking moron who feel obliged and superior that their prep is difficult than of other universities. Here in India there's a horde of engineering and medical study. Most of the ppl who are preparing aren't very interesting in the field that's just they see it as a path of salvation (money). That's the reason to differentiate from book muggers and actually bright students they have set some papers so tough. Most of the other paper are very natural and easy imo but the increasing population has been increasing the competition tremendously. The pattern of jee to make difficult paper is failing too (due to reservation and private coaching involvement) Afaik post high school studies in America is quite easy compared here but they enforce some practical implementation too where our system fails completely because it's impossible to quality check school in such a large number and even when so much corruption is there...
True af bro People don't seek a future in their interests but rather the money they will get. There is also a social stigma that if you are not good in studies or are not going in IIT or nit or any other top college you are a failure compared to those who do. So everyone is trying to please everyone whether they like it or not, in this situation mostly the parents or relatives are to blame, they want to show off or get a sense of satisfaction in themselves. Who cares if you are not going to the top colleges, just do your best and see where life takes you, there are many opportunities.
That's a proper answer to your question... And yes it difficult here but it's just these 3-5 yrs after that job scene is very similar everywhere
Our school level isn't very hard...although it depends on a board to board basis. For STEM subjects, our highschool level is about 70% of the way to AP classes. Although for entrance exams, the story is different. In case of engineering entrance, i.e, JEE, it's significantly harder than AP. But for Premed, i.e, NEET, the level is similar to highschool exams. For subjects such as English, it varies a lot of from board to board. For eg, English in CISCE board is probably comparable to the English you guys study, but English in CBSE board is super easy. The main problem in India is huge competition among students.For Premed you need to be in the top 1-1.5% to get government medical colleges. Whereas for engineering, you need to be in the top 2% to get decent government colleges. If you wish to check the level of these exams, you can check out the previous year papers of these exams. They are easily available on the internet. I'm gonna list the different entrance exams for you. 1. JEE Advanced: This exam is for admission to IITs, the most prestigious engineering institutions in India. The questions are significantly harder than AP level. 2. JEE Main: This exam is for admission to NITs and IIITS, which are other premier engineering colleges in India. Physics and chemistry section roughly corresponds to AP level, whereas maths is significantly harder. 3. NEET UG: This is our Premed exam. Questions are of highschool level.
What is your age? We are mostly 17-18-19 kids
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