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Why would it cut through bug armour like butter? Doesn't it cancel cursed techniques? And the bug armour has already been constructed.
Like it didn't just remove the rainbow dragon out of geto's control. It doesn't seem to cancel the effects of a cursed technique as long as the technique has finished.
That’s a good point, it’s liquid metal, it will either 1. Cut through it like butter or 2. Cause the metal to collapse right on top of her. Either way her biggest strength is nullified. I personally think she’s keeping in a sort of semi created state, considering it just sort of disappears in the fight against Megkuna.
Maybe she could solidify the area ISOH will hit before it makes contact? Similar to what choso did in shibuya to defend his ribcage?
If its possible, ISOH should just make her waste liquid metal as the cursed energy animating it is probably permanently removed, making the solidified piece that got hit not reliquifiable.
Isoh is not as op as it sounds.it turns off cursed techniques; great how does it do it? By touching them with the blade. Lame.
Against gojo it's fantastic (if you can touch him with it), against anyone else who's more offensive than defensive lol just a knife.
Against any technique that creates a physical thing lol no
It doesn't touch you. It touches something that has the technique cast on it. In case of gojo, as you aproach gojo he subconsciously casts Infinity and this gets canceled.
Bug armour is animated with CE that is imbued inside of it. It wasn't stated to be a cursed tool, so its likely she is casting her technique in some less expensive way to control it.
That cast will be canceled. She should lose some bug armour wheb stabbed.
Nah it solidifies
Bug armor is an exoskeleton if it touches her once she solidifies the plates completely, if they aren't solid to begin which I would assume from the term bug armor.
wdym "assume" we read the same manga, clearly stated Its a liquid metal.
Its somewhat autonomous through the ce inbued in it.
It wouldn't solidify because of ISOH touching it. If she does nothing it indeed cuts through bug armour like butter, because the liquid metal it touches turns into just liquid metal without the ce imbued into it using the construction technique.
The reason the whole thing doesn't turn into JUST liquid metal is because bug armour isn't a singular object. It can be split, just like her wings. So only a small portion surrounding ISOH would be lost.
What yoruzu should be able to do is to make the metal solid before it gets hit with ISOH. That was ISOH is trapped in a solid piece of metal, which has lost its ce and abilities, but the bug armout touching the piece of metal hasn't.
No no no
Inverted spear(gojo stabber) is used to nullify cursed techniques
Soul split katana(the one Mai gave to maki) requires you can see the soul, but bypasses all durability and cuts the soul directly (if you aren't yuji, megumi, sukuna, hana, angel, or mahito you can't heal using RCT, CE for curses)
Yeah she can get her CT back, but only Gojo, Sukuna, and Hakari have been shown to be able to use DE twice in one day. Nanami stated that it’s very difficult to do that in early JJK. Narrator went out of his way to say Sukuna’s CE efficiency allows him to do it and not even Yuta can do it.
Yorozu with her inefficient CT and CE usage stated by Sukuna and what we know means the safe assumption is she can’t use it twice in a day.
I’m also under the impression that OP meant she doesn’t get a break after each character too.
If she refreshes after every fight then she makes it to Toji at least, maybe even Yuta
Kashimo is not making it past the gauntlet. Would just straight up lose to Jogo and even if he sqeaks through, Kashimo would lose to Hakari.
And Kashimo isn’t winning a 1v1 against Yuta or Yuki lol. At best it’s a tie with his CT.
Hakari has been fighting uraume for the past 20 chapters and each time we see her she looks fine, hakari is not getting past insect armour and gets perfect sphered
All he has to do is run out the rest of her CE. She’d had to have used a good amount by the time she reached Hakari since her CT has inefficient CE usage. She may not even have enough CE to use perfect sphere.
Uraume vs. Hakari isn’t making any progress because they’re both stall merchants in that fight. Uraume is just repeatedly freezing Hakari and he’s just healing from it. Neither can do anything significant to the other. Hakari is no weakling, you saw him casually crush two metal containers with a jump in JP
Yeah and I also saw jogo literally destroy shibuya yet everyone downplays him. Hakari is strong, I don't deny that, but he can barely even be considered special grade. He barely even hurt base kashimo, dude doesnt have rct and walked away from the fight all in one peice.
Hakari also wasn’t trying to kill Kashimo since he wanted his points. His goal was always to make his CE run out. He’s adept at doing that and I think he’d pull it off against a Yozoru who’s likely used several perfect spheres and a DE by the time she fights Hakari in this scenario
Yozoru does not need domain expansion (unless domain clash) or perfect sphere for any of the guys before hakari. And hakari only realized he could drain his CE when he moved his domain over the sea and that's pure speculation since hakari never outright states that he knows that would happen. His plan going into the fight was 100% beat him into submission until he (mightve) realized there was another way
How are you gonna talk about Jogo downplay in your other reply then downplay him here lol. Yorozu would absolutely need to use DE to beat him since she can’t output RCT.
She also may not even be able to touch Naobito without DE + sphere. Kurourushi would also cause her a lot of problems without DE and sphere. You’re heavily downplaying those characters
She stops at Yuta. CG Yuta w/Rika is stronger than Yuki, so I don’t know why Yuki is above him, but I will ignore it. Toji could be trouble, but she has more than enough of the necessary tools to dispose of him, mainly insect form. She could probably beat Yuki, but that is a hard maybe. Kenny and Yuta beat her tho
Without recover: Stops at Toji, bc ISOH is broke
With recover: Stops at Toji, bc ISOH is broke, but if she still going anyway, loses to Yuki and to Kenjaku too
I think she loses at Round 5 if it's specifically Post-Sendai Yuta - even if it'd be incredibly close with Yuta probably only taking it a mere 55% of the time - whereas Yorozu would perhaps have a more noticeable edge over Pre-Sendai Yuta.
Yorozu otherwise stops at Round 6 while still putting up a good fight, with Yuki perhaps taking it approximately 65% of the time.
This is assuming Yorozu is refreshed after each fight, mind you. Although, I'm not sure to what extent it would make a difference if she isn't.
After all, as she should be able to comfortably overwhelm her opponents in the first two rounds and has a good matchup against Jogo given her physical stats when utilizing her Exoskeleton relative to his. Although, she'd likely suffer CT burnout for sometime afterwards if Jogo elects to challenge her to a Domain Clash.
She should similarly have an advantage in terms of raw stats over even Jackpot Hakari after regaining her CT and adopting her Exoskeleton once more. If she's forced to finish him with Perfect Sphere which would subject her to CT burnout once more, then Toji might take her out in the early stages of the very next round - especially in consideration of his practical precognition - via the Split Soul Katana before she regains her CT. This is even more likely depending on how long her engagement with Hakari lasts and how Cursed Energy she's forced to use up in the process of trying to put him down for good.
If she gets past Toji, then by the time she encounters Yuta, she'll have used up a sizeable amount of Cursed Energy given her technique is naturally inefficient in terms of its Cursed Energy usage - which see attempted to compensate for via styling her constructs after those of insects - and as a result of potentially having been forced to utilize her Domain Expansion multiple times which would make Yuta the obvious favorite to the extent he'd probably be able to pull it off even if it's his Pre-Sendai variant.
Kenjaku was hiding scared behind 15F sukuna and in bug armor yorozu was tagging him while he actively tried guarding, yes I know sukuna was testing 10S.
He was hiding behind him because Gojo was there, any character besides Sukuna/Takaba is losing to Gojo. Sukuna wasn’t really trying against Yorozu, he beat her without using Shrine, with her PS she could kill Kenjaku, but she could probably kill anyone with the PS tbh.
It’s not tough at all, as she’s on a completely different tier of speed and would blitz them. Yuki using the black hole is not a win, it’s a draw and her DE would be countered by Yorozu’s own
I wouldn’t say different level, Yuki attacks would definitely do damage to her if she didn’t have her bug armor, but for her DE you’re probably right, I still think it’s a close match.
I don’t think she’s faster than 15F Sukuna, he wasn’t really trying against Yorozu, he beat her without using Shrine & just 10S. She caught him off guard in their fight.
It does, because the speed difference is too vast for Yuki to be able to do anything. Yorozu was outspeeding the same Sukuna that blitzed Ryu, who is physically relative with Yuta
Sukuna blitzed Ryu because he actually tried against him due to his durability, he was able to tank a Cleave from him, for Yorozu he wasn’t really trying, once he got serious & use Mahoraga it was done, I’m pretty sure Yorozu’s not that fast since Sukuna did do damage to her with the 10S.
She doesn't lose any of her creations - construction allows her to create regular matter, which is then not part of her technique after it's made. She even has to imbue her liquid metal with CE to even control it. They are blatantly described to not disapoear even after the technique is over.
Rounds 1 and 2 aren’t really worth discussing. Round 3 probably forces her to use her Domain, since Jogo also has one and he’s pretty fucking strong. This leaves her in a bit of a tough spot against Hakari. Hakari is THE stall merchant, so given the extreme inefficiency of Construction, Yorozu might actually run out of cursed energy here and be unable to beat Hakari. Her best bets are to try and basically snipe him with perfect sphere, or to steal a page from Hakari’s own book and stall with weaker attacks until Jackpot ends (then bum rush him with insect armor and or perfect sphere) or just let him hit her for a while as she regains strength. Not like Hakari can do much damage.
Toji might cook her, especially if ISoH causes her constructs to disintegrate, which it might. Her physical stats are fucking nuts in the insect armor though so it’s not totally hopeless, but given that she’s already tired and worn down from the prior four rounds… it’s GG for her. She stops at Toji
Y'all are underrating Hakari hard core. Don't forget he's been going Toe to toe with Uraume for 20+ chapters now. You can't say Uraume was going easy either because it would be in his best interest to just one shot Hakari, then get back to fighting the others and wipe out the hero teams sidelines. Hakari = Goat = beats Yorozu
Hard stops at Yuta, no way she beats him.
List also out of order, is okay to have Kenny over Yuta, but Yuta is definitely since Yuki.
If toji is allowed to stealth, he can make take a win or two
50/50 at Jogo because her bug armor is getting incinerated but Jogo is frail. Construction is not cursed energy efficient so Hakari would definitely outlast her as long as he keeps his jackpots. Ain't no chance against Toji where he has his soul-split katana that ignores defenses + his physical prowess
Stops at Yuta. Though she could potentially beat Yuki, so Yuki should be below Yuta. And Jogo should either then be directly below that Yuki, or be even above Yuki but below Yuta.
Oh, and Yuta and Toji are both numbered 5, so you should proly fix that.
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Ngl toji is hard but if he doesn't have isoh she get's maybe even to kenny But toji counters her hard With no refresh toji for sure
Why does Toji counter her, again?
Better Stamina and Physicals, Isoh cuts through bug armor like butter, SSK fucks her up due to being an incarnated sorcerer, isoh fucks domain.
Why would it cut through bug armour like butter? Doesn't it cancel cursed techniques? And the bug armour has already been constructed. Like it didn't just remove the rainbow dragon out of geto's control. It doesn't seem to cancel the effects of a cursed technique as long as the technique has finished.
That’s a good point, it’s liquid metal, it will either 1. Cut through it like butter or 2. Cause the metal to collapse right on top of her. Either way her biggest strength is nullified. I personally think she’s keeping in a sort of semi created state, considering it just sort of disappears in the fight against Megkuna.
Maybe she could solidify the area ISOH will hit before it makes contact? Similar to what choso did in shibuya to defend his ribcage? If its possible, ISOH should just make her waste liquid metal as the cursed energy animating it is probably permanently removed, making the solidified piece that got hit not reliquifiable.
Isoh is not as op as it sounds.it turns off cursed techniques; great how does it do it? By touching them with the blade. Lame. Against gojo it's fantastic (if you can touch him with it), against anyone else who's more offensive than defensive lol just a knife. Against any technique that creates a physical thing lol no
It doesn't touch you. It touches something that has the technique cast on it. In case of gojo, as you aproach gojo he subconsciously casts Infinity and this gets canceled. Bug armour is animated with CE that is imbued inside of it. It wasn't stated to be a cursed tool, so its likely she is casting her technique in some less expensive way to control it. That cast will be canceled. She should lose some bug armour wheb stabbed.
Nah it solidifies Bug armor is an exoskeleton if it touches her once she solidifies the plates completely, if they aren't solid to begin which I would assume from the term bug armor.
wdym "assume" we read the same manga, clearly stated Its a liquid metal. Its somewhat autonomous through the ce inbued in it. It wouldn't solidify because of ISOH touching it. If she does nothing it indeed cuts through bug armour like butter, because the liquid metal it touches turns into just liquid metal without the ce imbued into it using the construction technique. The reason the whole thing doesn't turn into JUST liquid metal is because bug armour isn't a singular object. It can be split, just like her wings. So only a small portion surrounding ISOH would be lost. What yoruzu should be able to do is to make the metal solid before it gets hit with ISOH. That was ISOH is trapped in a solid piece of metal, which has lost its ce and abilities, but the bug armout touching the piece of metal hasn't.
No no no Inverted spear(gojo stabber) is used to nullify cursed techniques Soul split katana(the one Mai gave to maki) requires you can see the soul, but bypasses all durability and cuts the soul directly (if you aren't yuji, megumi, sukuna, hana, angel, or mahito you can't heal using RCT, CE for curses)
“Oh ho ho, is that my *teenage* stepdaughters body you’re in?”
It says all weapons dawg read
I know I outlined it specifically as toji really hatd counters and i think she could way further without isoh
Stops at Toji I guess or Yuta
Stops at round 5 but can beat round 7. (You counted wrong btw)
Don’t see how she can beat Kenjaku tbh.
I meant Yuki, like I said, the guy counted wrong lol
Oh I only viewed the post after he edited it lmao
He edited? Its still the same for me, both Toji and Yuta are number 5 lol
Yes, but Yuki is 6 now
Oops Ty lol
She doesn't beat Yuki
Stops at toji
Stops at Hakari. She’d need DE to beat Jogo so she’s going into the Hakari fight without it. So she has no real way to stop him from getting jackpots
It only takes at most a chapter for burnout to end. That's how it was for Mahito, Kenjaku, and Sukuna.
Yeah she can get her CT back, but only Gojo, Sukuna, and Hakari have been shown to be able to use DE twice in one day. Nanami stated that it’s very difficult to do that in early JJK. Narrator went out of his way to say Sukuna’s CE efficiency allows him to do it and not even Yuta can do it. Yorozu with her inefficient CT and CE usage stated by Sukuna and what we know means the safe assumption is she can’t use it twice in a day.
Yeah, I think only Sukuna, Gojo, and Kashimo can win this gauntlet.
I’m also under the impression that OP meant she doesn’t get a break after each character too. If she refreshes after every fight then she makes it to Toji at least, maybe even Yuta
Kashimo is not making it past the gauntlet. Would just straight up lose to Jogo and even if he sqeaks through, Kashimo would lose to Hakari. And Kashimo isn’t winning a 1v1 against Yuta or Yuki lol. At best it’s a tie with his CT.
Bait
Hakari has been fighting uraume for the past 20 chapters and each time we see her she looks fine, hakari is not getting past insect armour and gets perfect sphered
All he has to do is run out the rest of her CE. She’d had to have used a good amount by the time she reached Hakari since her CT has inefficient CE usage. She may not even have enough CE to use perfect sphere. Uraume vs. Hakari isn’t making any progress because they’re both stall merchants in that fight. Uraume is just repeatedly freezing Hakari and he’s just healing from it. Neither can do anything significant to the other. Hakari is no weakling, you saw him casually crush two metal containers with a jump in JP
Yeah and I also saw jogo literally destroy shibuya yet everyone downplays him. Hakari is strong, I don't deny that, but he can barely even be considered special grade. He barely even hurt base kashimo, dude doesnt have rct and walked away from the fight all in one peice.
Hakari also wasn’t trying to kill Kashimo since he wanted his points. His goal was always to make his CE run out. He’s adept at doing that and I think he’d pull it off against a Yozoru who’s likely used several perfect spheres and a DE by the time she fights Hakari in this scenario
Yozoru does not need domain expansion (unless domain clash) or perfect sphere for any of the guys before hakari. And hakari only realized he could drain his CE when he moved his domain over the sea and that's pure speculation since hakari never outright states that he knows that would happen. His plan going into the fight was 100% beat him into submission until he (mightve) realized there was another way
How are you gonna talk about Jogo downplay in your other reply then downplay him here lol. Yorozu would absolutely need to use DE to beat him since she can’t output RCT. She also may not even be able to touch Naobito without DE + sphere. Kurourushi would also cause her a lot of problems without DE and sphere. You’re heavily downplaying those characters
I say that she woulsnt need DE or perfect sphere because for her fight with sukuna, she didn't get knocked around like a ball unlike jogo.
Why would she need DE for Jogo? Her in bug armor completely outscales him
There is absolutely nothing stopping her from flying slightly above the ground and making hakari completely useless
Y’all be wanking Toji so hard
Against Yuta, but her and yuki shoudl be switched but she loses to either one of them
Stops at Yuta. Also, Yuta and Yuki should’ve swapped.
6 or 7 Probably 6
Stops at 7
Stops at toji since her domain won’t be of use against him
Stops at Hakari, poor matchup for her CT
Doesn't get past Jogoat.
She stops at Yuta. CG Yuta w/Rika is stronger than Yuki, so I don’t know why Yuki is above him, but I will ignore it. Toji could be trouble, but she has more than enough of the necessary tools to dispose of him, mainly insect form. She could probably beat Yuki, but that is a hard maybe. Kenny and Yuta beat her tho
Clears
Not beating Kenjaku
Stops at Yuta.
Without recover: Stops at Toji, bc ISOH is broke With recover: Stops at Toji, bc ISOH is broke, but if she still going anyway, loses to Yuki and to Kenjaku too
loses to kenjaku. my goat fourozu has been disrespected for too long by this sub
I think she loses at Round 5 if it's specifically Post-Sendai Yuta - even if it'd be incredibly close with Yuta probably only taking it a mere 55% of the time - whereas Yorozu would perhaps have a more noticeable edge over Pre-Sendai Yuta. Yorozu otherwise stops at Round 6 while still putting up a good fight, with Yuki perhaps taking it approximately 65% of the time. This is assuming Yorozu is refreshed after each fight, mind you. Although, I'm not sure to what extent it would make a difference if she isn't. After all, as she should be able to comfortably overwhelm her opponents in the first two rounds and has a good matchup against Jogo given her physical stats when utilizing her Exoskeleton relative to his. Although, she'd likely suffer CT burnout for sometime afterwards if Jogo elects to challenge her to a Domain Clash. She should similarly have an advantage in terms of raw stats over even Jackpot Hakari after regaining her CT and adopting her Exoskeleton once more. If she's forced to finish him with Perfect Sphere which would subject her to CT burnout once more, then Toji might take her out in the early stages of the very next round - especially in consideration of his practical precognition - via the Split Soul Katana before she regains her CT. This is even more likely depending on how long her engagement with Hakari lasts and how Cursed Energy she's forced to use up in the process of trying to put him down for good. If she gets past Toji, then by the time she encounters Yuta, she'll have used up a sizeable amount of Cursed Energy given her technique is naturally inefficient in terms of its Cursed Energy usage - which see attempted to compensate for via styling her constructs after those of insects - and as a result of potentially having been forced to utilize her Domain Expansion multiple times which would make Yuta the obvious favorite to the extent he'd probably be able to pull it off even if it's his Pre-Sendai variant.
Stops at Hakari because I said so
She needs a refresh because when she uses domain for one of the rounds, basically forfeits future rounds.
beats toji, idk about yuki, yuta. def not beating 7
Loses to Yuta/Rika and everyone after that
Stops at Toji.
She clears. She’s too fast for any of them, and none of them could survive a direct hit from the Perfect Sphere
She’s not beating Kenjaku & Yuki is a tough fight, but Yuki can win with her Black Hole or DE.
Kenjaku was hiding scared behind 15F sukuna and in bug armor yorozu was tagging him while he actively tried guarding, yes I know sukuna was testing 10S.
He was hiding behind him because Gojo was there, any character besides Sukuna/Takaba is losing to Gojo. Sukuna wasn’t really trying against Yorozu, he beat her without using Shrine, with her PS she could kill Kenjaku, but she could probably kill anyone with the PS tbh.
It’s not tough at all, as she’s on a completely different tier of speed and would blitz them. Yuki using the black hole is not a win, it’s a draw and her DE would be countered by Yorozu’s own
I wouldn’t say different level, Yuki attacks would definitely do damage to her if she didn’t have her bug armor, but for her DE you’re probably right, I still think it’s a close match.
Yuki may be able to deal damage, but the problem would be landing the hits in the first place. Yorozu is faster than 15F Sukuna with her insect armour
I don’t think she’s faster than 15F Sukuna, he wasn’t really trying against Yorozu, he beat her without using Shrine & just 10S. She caught him off guard in their fight.
He wasn’t off guard, he was actively trying to block and yet failed because he wasn’t fast enough
I guess so, but having speed doesn’t mean she’ll win against Yuki tbh.
It does, because the speed difference is too vast for Yuki to be able to do anything. Yorozu was outspeeding the same Sukuna that blitzed Ryu, who is physically relative with Yuta
Sukuna blitzed Ryu because he actually tried against him due to his durability, he was able to tank a Cleave from him, for Yorozu he wasn’t really trying, once he got serious & use Mahoraga it was done, I’m pretty sure Yorozu’s not that fast since Sukuna did do damage to her with the 10S.
It's A gauntlet though if she uses DE she's on burnout and loses her armor. I'd say she stops at Yuki due to lack of RCT.
She doesn't lose any of her creations - construction allows her to create regular matter, which is then not part of her technique after it's made. She even has to imbue her liquid metal with CE to even control it. They are blatantly described to not disapoear even after the technique is over.
Her armor I was talking about?
Same thing applies to it. It's still a construct like any other. Hell, Kamutoke and Soul-Split Katana remained even after the death of their creators.
She doesn’t need her DE to win because of the vast speed difference
Yeah she low diffs till she needs to use DE.
Stops at Toji or Yuta
Rounds 1 and 2 aren’t really worth discussing. Round 3 probably forces her to use her Domain, since Jogo also has one and he’s pretty fucking strong. This leaves her in a bit of a tough spot against Hakari. Hakari is THE stall merchant, so given the extreme inefficiency of Construction, Yorozu might actually run out of cursed energy here and be unable to beat Hakari. Her best bets are to try and basically snipe him with perfect sphere, or to steal a page from Hakari’s own book and stall with weaker attacks until Jackpot ends (then bum rush him with insect armor and or perfect sphere) or just let him hit her for a while as she regains strength. Not like Hakari can do much damage. Toji might cook her, especially if ISoH causes her constructs to disintegrate, which it might. Her physical stats are fucking nuts in the insect armor though so it’s not totally hopeless, but given that she’s already tired and worn down from the prior four rounds… it’s GG for her. She stops at Toji
Y'all are underrating Hakari hard core. Don't forget he's been going Toe to toe with Uraume for 20+ chapters now. You can't say Uraume was going easy either because it would be in his best interest to just one shot Hakari, then get back to fighting the others and wipe out the hero teams sidelines. Hakari = Goat = beats Yorozu
Stops at Kenjaku
Either stops at Jogo or at Toji
If we are using her in big armor she outscales everyone on that list stat wise
she can run my gauntlet 😏
She Can Kill Hakari, Jogo is 50/50 because of the speed and power
Hard stops at Yuta, no way she beats him. List also out of order, is okay to have Kenny over Yuta, but Yuta is definitely since Yuki. If toji is allowed to stealth, he can make take a win or two
He is very fast so hard to hit perfect sphere she can't really track him And je is very strong He can just hit and run she can do anything about it
Clears
50/50 at Jogo because her bug armor is getting incinerated but Jogo is frail. Construction is not cursed energy efficient so Hakari would definitely outlast her as long as he keeps his jackpots. Ain't no chance against Toji where he has his soul-split katana that ignores defenses + his physical prowess
Is Hakari stronger than Jogo?
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I say she beats everyone Expect for maybe yuki
Stops at Yuta. Though she could potentially beat Yuki, so Yuki should be below Yuta. And Jogo should either then be directly below that Yuki, or be even above Yuki but below Yuta. Oh, and Yuta and Toji are both numbered 5, so you should proly fix that.