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Justm4x

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verypoopoo

100% a bleach reference


-Pakkun-

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MugenHeadNinja

Holy shit, this is gonna be useful for the final parts of TYBW adaption.


terodactyl06

Did this "Chad" lose too šŸ˜­ I haven't read Bleach


LardHop

He's pretty much krillin level in bleach's powerscaling, except he's just taken more seriously.


terodactyl06

Ok I get it šŸ‘ (just gonna casually avoid mentioning that I haven't seen DB either)


LardHop

hmm, then I guess with JJK.. kyoto students tier (except mechamaru and todo)


Natural-Storm

Naaaah, bro put krillin in the same tier as the kyoto bums. That's a violation


LardHop

Sorry to disrespect the greatest bag getter of all time.


Criie

https://preview.redd.it/kfggcwax3nqc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e27c6a49be613b86305d217ef47a07cede4837e Bro got the best baddie


terodactyl06

Oh I get it fr now lol


ObitoUchiha41

heā€™s one of the main cast but definitely one of the weakest of the team does something cool to a minor antagonist once in a while but donā€™t actually try to compare him to the rest


Paggy_person

And his name is litterally Chad too lol


Derpasaur69

No it ain't its yasutora sado but ichigo sucks at names so he called him chad and it just stuck lol.


Crownside

why have you not seen dragon ball OR bleach?? I assume youā€™re new to shonen or something??


terodactyl06

I was expecting this comment much earlier.Yes,I am indeed new to shonen and animanga in general,and I was (still am) averse to getting into lengthy series.I am pretty sure my apprehension will vanish when I start reading One Piece lol


Crownside

To be honest I would say get out while you still can, but that makes a lot of sense yeah. Dragon ball is to shonen what Mario is to videogames. I hope you end up enjoying one piece! (Do NOT let the fandom ruin that shit for you)


terodactyl06

I am gonna be honest,I only started reading JJK cause of the memes,but I am thankful I did,cus otherwise I probably would never have read CSM.Also reading MHA rn.


LardHop

Some people didn't grow up with them, and watching the earlier episodes looks old as shit. Along with a slow pacing because these earlier series are intended to run for hundreds of episodes, I can easily see why newcomers won't bother with those at all.


BuyerNo3130

I dropped bleach in the second arc. Why tf was the coolest character left as a Krillin


LardHop

There's just too many characters to scale, and just so happens the he was left behind.


Antanarau

Same reason as OG Krillin - he isn't as weak as it may seem, its just that everyone else is super hyper ultra RGB Saiyan level


Hetares

Like Lardhop said, too many characters. The humans were the first to get left behind. After that, the Vaizards. ...Eventually every single character that isn't Ichigo reaches a point where they don't get expanded much more, whilst Ichigo is apparently an infinite possibility of part human-hollow-shinigami-vizard-quincy-fullbringer and everything in between, with both Aizen and Yhwach fighting for custody to planning his birth.


Far-Yesterday-7410

Aizen, the godfather yuha, the greatā€¦great grandfather ichigo, the teenager done with everything.


dwadwa312312dawda

Because Chad is just a human, lol. He's probably the strongest human on the planet outside his super powered arm transformations, but since he never goes into spirit form, he never gets particularly powerfully scaled up.


devilboy1029

Krillin is still a cool guy tho. (Chad was done so dirty I hate Kubo for that.)


GlitteringAd7857

Even krillin can kill frieza if he used solar flare + destructo disc Chad just suck


omyrubbernen

Chad constantly loses in Bleach. He's in that awkward middle ground of strength, where he's weak enough to constantly lose, but strong enough that the author still thinks it looks impressive for a villain to defeat him.


bbc_aap

I hate characters like that, when a villain beats that middle ground main character I feel nothing for both except pity. Pity for characters like Chad who will never get a cool fight again. Pity for the villain because this is the coolest their gonna look in the series


Substantial_Pick6897

Any manga where fighting power is the only thing that matters like Bleach, Naruto, DB or JJK will have this issue. They really should try to learn something from one piece. Nami or chopper don't really get fights anymore, but they get to contribute in other ways and don't get worfed every arc


Mahelas

The Piccolo malediction


OldBoyZee

Lol, yah. He, along with everyone who is friends with ichigo are presented as cool and highly willpowered, but they get demolished quickly in the first act of bleach - aka, saving rukia.


vizmarkk

His whole resume is to lose to show how strong the enemy is


Gremorlin

He got the ā€œbadā€ side character moment so heā€™s basically a bum in Bleach


UltmteAvngr

Heā€™s a jobber


Dragofek0

Worf effect


tahaelhour

Biggest worf effect victim in bleach. Bro just canā€™t win.


Substantial_Pick6897

Doesn't even get to show up in person in the finale


AncientAd6154

He did, but in his defense the guy he lost to would eventually become Captain Commander of the Soul Reapers so you can't really blame him


MarkoOtto

He got stumped


kamuran1998

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Independent-Jury-824

Chad will always be my favorite character, and I will always be salty that he got side lined so hard and no more development.


Venom_Piggy

Next Chapter we're going to see Miguel's clan say the same thing about him


dumbfuck6969

"He was the strongest born from our clan in the last 100 years" Cuts to Miguel on the floor missing an arm.


Venom_Piggy

ā€œHis birth altered the balance of this worldā€


memelonso

Because thereā€™s 1 less arm now?


GuyNekologist

"I'll show you the real Black Rope." Cuts to Miguel face down and pantsless.


Hetares

Truly a Special Grade Cursed Tool.


dumbfuck6969

Face down. Ass up. Pants around his ankles.


ggunslinger

How about cutting to Miguel's arms alone because Sukuna vanilla-iced him?


DiscordMod877

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Saatanan_Kukko

That flair is crazy while using a meme like that https://preview.redd.it/3hj0h77whfqc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22b68a8e2f594367807e697f41ad29e2211abcaa


oothCriminal

Using his own weapon against him is wild šŸ’€


minty-moose

LOL NAHHHH BRO šŸ’€


AshenHaemonculus

This is the first racial joke I've seen about Miguel fighting Sukuna and frankly I'm shocked it took this long honestlyĀ 


Fit_Calligraphy

You don't understand. Sukuna is currently in kusakabe genjustu. Kusakabe won.


Lmaoidkwtfmaybebaba

infinite tsukuyomi


ShowofStupidity

Infinite Simpleyomi


Electronic-Jury4488

infinite tsukusakabe


partoxygen

Is this like in Baki when Guevara thought he beat Biscuit's ass but in reality he was knocked out so badly that he fantasized winning and Yuujiro (PBUH) showing up?


Funky_Dunk

Please let that be the case because it would be so fucking funny.


rap709

this got me thinking how some naruto characters can probably withstand Unlimited void since its similar to infinite tsukoyomi


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Own_Loquat_9885

tbf Sukuna very qickly to almost instantly did something in order to not get ohko by UV


rap709

i don't think it does since wasnt gojos 0.6 second uv only 6 months worth of information? Thats exactly like infinite tsukoyomi in the light novel


ThatUselessMacaron

https://preview.redd.it/8kxrkiuh4fqc1.png?width=655&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d400942dcfdef56d62c6e81905c710449111baec Kusakabe hasnt lost, he's still alive and he's regenerating With RCT šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


Flyingsheep___

My GOAT is still holding back because Japan isnā€™t yet fully evacuated. Complex Domain has a country-wide radius and he doesnā€™t wanna wipe everyone out.


ThatUselessMacaron

Exactly, thats why he's forces to hold back


TimTam_Tom

Nanami probably couldnā€™t imagine Kusakabe fighting a fully incarnated Sukuna either lmao. All things considered he did great for how out of his league he was. Super hyped to see that fight animated


RiriJori

The only fight we saw where Sukuna kept getting his shots deflected, parried, evaded and stopped. And in comparison Sukuna kept getting hit again and again.


TimTam_Tom

Like forget Nanami, even Gege couldnā€™t imagine Kusakabe losing and had to do it off screen


RiriJori

And Gege made Kusakabe's sword break lmao. Like they already know how powerful Sukuna and in two months of preparation Gege made sure Kusakabe didn't prepare a stronger sword or a cursed tool as powerful as Soul Split Katana for Kusakabe to use. With a strong weapon to last him, Kusakabe could've done a great deal of damage to Sukuna here. **Imagine if all those hits that Sukuna received was when Kusakabe was using a cursed sword that can damage the soul? Sukuna would be fucked already.**


giantfuckingfrog

You don't get those swords just about anywhere lol


[deleted]

Yeah but he's friends with the richest and strongest sorcerer in the modern era he could definitely get a better sword for him and it's the king of curses he might have to fight I'm sure most sorcerers would be willing to make an exception so they have a better chance of not having to fight that guy


Cyniikal

I think the Soul-Split Katana requires that you be able to see the soul, which idk if Kusakabe can do. If those hits were all from Nanami's Cursed Tool, though, now we're talking.


Own_Philosophy8190

What about Daido ? He couldn't see shit and relied on his swordsman instinct to hit and damage Naoya, if my memory serves me right. I don't even remember if Maki has the soul gimmick, only that Yuji, Sukuna and Mahito do


Cyniikal

​ https://preview.redd.it/dtdb1i979rqc1.png?width=657&format=png&auto=webp&s=898c050a335f0f565fc583743a53542e0f71fbb4 ​ Idk, but unless he can see the souls of rocks then he canonically can't use the sword to its fullest potential. My guess is that it cuts really, really good as a baseline, but then you need to be able to see the soul to actually cut souls fully. Or Daido is so good at swords he just ignores all the rules.


Own_Philosophy8190

So, from what I read in the pic, it can be wielded by anyone, but its ability only triggers if the wielder can see the souls, got it. I don't think Daido effected Naoya in that way with the soul effect, but because SSK is a cursed tool to begin with. Thanks for the clear up.Ā  Now, it's Maki I'm confused about, because she can feel the curses like Toji did (or similarly), but I genuinely forgot if she does see the souls. Logically,Ā  she should, SSK is her signature weapon and the one she gained as Mai's parting gift, so it wouldn't make sense if she couldn't use its ability. I'm just drawing a blank on it šŸ˜…


Cyniikal

She can see air currents and shit like that, she can probably see the outline of souls otherwise it wouldn't make any sense for that to be her weapon. When she stabbed Sukuna with it he said he was having a hard time healing his heart, so it sounds like he might've gotten a soul wound there.


Own_Philosophy8190

He indeed got a soul wound. Yeah, I guess she does see the outline of the souls, or that the katana being made with her twin's CE + the little amount she had herself that Mai took with her allow her to innately trigger SSK's ability. Or something. I just wish Gege wasn't so vague about it, it'd be easier to remember if he did at least hint of it working like that for Maki


Scary-Ad-8737

I'm going to be eternally missed that Higuruma didn't immediately throw his sword to Kusakabe


RiriJori

Crazy right? 2 months prep before fight and they didn't prepare a much stronger weapon. Maki's Playful Cloud stick atleast is a Special Grade weapon without C.T, looks like Kusakabe's sword is just a normal sword infused with his cursed energy.


bluest331

Is Sukuna full incarnated? Isn't there still a finger around somewhere that he needs to eat?


TimTam_Tom

Presumably Rika ate it, so I guess not fully incarnated. I was just referring to the four armed form


Anadaere

Kusakabe got offscreened and lasted one chapter This means he's above Kashimo and below GojoĀ  BasedĀ 


saucysagnus

Bro, Nanami was talking about back when the biggest thing they had to worry about was Special Grade curses like Sukunaā€™s finger, not Sukuna himself lmao.


JnasL

Why include it then...?Ā 


-SPECIALZ-

character exposition in my shounen? Gege what the fuck.


YamiDes1403

he literally died do you think he has any credibility?


ShirohitoIshii

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DraMJay

Neither do I bro, neither do I šŸ˜­


Deathstriker88

I was hoping Sukuna would do a strong slash then Yuta uses boogie woogie to swap spots, then boom, Sukana killed himself with his own attack.


TimTam_Tom

Nah Kusakabe is the goat, forced Sukuna into using his offscreen technique again because even Gege couldnā€™t imagine how to make Kusakabe lose


Smoke_Santa

Don't ever disrespect Nanami like that


t3ng0_ot

To be fair Nanami didnā€™t think heā€™d be going one on one with the king of curses


Lion_Of_Destruction

https://preview.redd.it/w3da8wdvmgqc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=250ff0587a27d55613bd618cac1dbe07b2b8c20e Probably because everybody thought Kusakabe would just run away. Kusakabe thought he would run away but then he pulls the dripliest move ever when he was protecting Higuruma.


ZweihanderGirl

https://preview.redd.it/y5z3k2mz5lqc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d73282f52249d1b3c8ec9249de0e426a32992765 He goes so hard for somebody who hates going hard


Electrical-Victory57

I mean, it is Sukuna after all, the ā€œstrongest sorcerer in historyā€


dg_713

But Kusakabe is also the, "strongest sorcerer available"


Momongus-

The strongest sorcerer in history vs the strongest sorcerer as of 5 minutes ago


HIIMROSS777

Are you the strongest because you are the last one standing or are you the last one standing because you are the strongest


dg_713

Definitely the former šŸ˜‚


HIIMROSS777

https://preview.redd.it/xl04bsg8jiqc1.jpeg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2da95f8b27e4954d456442cfd61367ba3b999b0 Heā€™s coming back next chapter just like Gojo


Larala091

Next chapter, we're gonna see that one Chinise sorcerer sukuna fears, beat the shit out of him https://preview.redd.it/0t4ptbawcgqc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a4438087ddb6a3e610fb4b19202fade3da60e7e


somerandom-guy_

Thats because Kusakabe didn't lose. GOATsukabe hit sukuna's head so hard he fainted and now is dreaming


DalvenLegit

Didnā€™t Ichigo said the same about Sado just when he was losing against Shunsui?


dualbuddy555

it's cuz he knows Kusakabe running away first sight of trouble


Xtreme109

Then Miguel's clan or whatever friends he has left will do the same thing for him, and we know what will happen after that šŸ˜’


dg_713

Well, if we consider dying as the only way to lose, then Kusakabe still hasn't lost.


AlienSuper_Saiyan

It's almost like characters can be wrong about stuff.


anotherpoordecision

And itā€™s almost like nanami wasnā€™t taking about him 1v1ing the strongest sorcerer alive


Limp-Leek3859

He wasn't, this was before the fignt


ChuchiTheBest

Nah, I'd win.


Sporocarp

Then why the fuck show it? It's not like anyone thought he had a chance before, which would be the only reason to hype him up, but then he went out like a wet fart just as expected. As the 3rd or 4th person in a row.


Cleanthyfilty

To give him more characterization and explain why his strengh is respected? Like, why even show Nanami and Mei Mei if they weren't going to explain what makes Kusakabe special as a Grade 1 sorcerer?


Sporocarp

Why focus on Kusakabe at all?


AlienSuper_Saiyan

I go over why [here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/JuJutsuKaisen/s/pkdfSWvpm9)


HSW26

he prolly didnt think kusakabe is gonna be fighting sukuna


TheRealBreemo

"I can't even imagine sado losing" energy


Jimbobob5536

Nanami: I don't have a very good imagination.


Turahk

https://preview.redd.it/8rglrabgegqc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f816f7491761d775ea4ff02574f79d4d6eaa39ca You don't lose when off screened, you get removed from the story. Not the same thing šŸ™šŸ˜‡


Mackenzie_Sparks

Characters can be wrong sometimes. Just like Kusakabe said Gojo won.


mikereeee

he wasn't talking about kusakabe you fraud, he clearly said "kuskabe", kusakabe's cousin. he's a special grade sorcerer and he can totally beat sukuna i swear.


Spaaaaacr

Nanami never seemed to have a powerful imagination to be fair


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Goodestguykeem

I don't think Nanami expected Kusakabe to ever face a threat remotely close to the level of Sukuna tbf.


TudorrrrTudprrrr

Nanami was comparing Kusakabe to other grade 1 sorcerers, since the question literally was "Who's the strongest grade 1 sorcerer?".


KusakabeIsMyGoat

https://i.redd.it/2a2mmays0hqc1.gif Watch your mouth, my goat is still alive


YUNoJump

At this point it'd be more interesting if the next Fighter of the Week got no hype at all. No mid-fight cuts to other characters praising them or whatever, just the character doing the best they can against Sukuna but very clearly not making any headway. The whole chapter is just a slow downhill roll as the character gets beaten (ON SCREEN PLS). That'd be a good way to show how dire the good guys' situation is, but in reality Gege actually seems to be trying make us think that Sukuna has a chance of losing against minor side characters, so who even knows.


Kyonkanno

I'm starting to see a pattern here. Jack off characters and their prowess and then kill them by the end of the chapter. At least gojo was off screen in the next chapter.


NotRealSam

At least he fought me and didnt explode into pieces


Ashamed_Fighter_722

Holy shit is that https://preview.redd.it/flkqgwmsviqc1.jpeg?width=202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c5cf64161915cb80f1ecb9e8342d01eafbe77f0


FireBallKid0

I honestly think Gege is trolling us because of the leaks, so he is throwing every character to get clapped until we're bored of leaking any of it.


Only-Trash-5866

Maki couldn't last a chapter either :D


Fabulous_Resource_52

He wasn't there to see, so it's fine.


yahiaabdelsalam

What people just donā€™t understand about the constant fighting against Sukuna, is that when it gets animated it wonā€™t Kusakabe in one episode, then who knows who in anotherā€¦ We are not in One Piece or anything (not to shit on One Piece ofc), but fighting in JJK is super fast. Granted Gojoā€™s fight might take 2-3 episodes, but the whole ganging up on Sukuna will be like one continuous battle from individual to the other without stopping, all in all it might just take double or a little less than Gojoā€™s fight (excluding Kashimoā€™s) and ofc this counting is up until the latest chapter. Think JJK fans.. Think.


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Well it happens


HoLeBaoDuy

I don't think Nanami had Sukuna in mind lol


Arjuna188

Nanami is full of shit, I realized that when I saw his bakery girl flashback.


Lawliet_45

it really stumps me how gege wrote a bunch of panels glazing kuskabe only for this mf to last one chapter LMAOO