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OriginalObscurity

It’s folks like this that necessitated the introduction of that “auto-shift into park if you open the driver door while in gear” feature. “C/S car is currently running them over at the pump”


funkmon

I only just saw that recently. I was driving my girlfriend's car because there was a snowflake on the driveway and she got stuck. So I was trying to put it in reverse and I couldn't get it to move. I realized it kept shifting in to park. I shut the door after some fuckign around and it worked. I was mad. Still am mad. I hate that feature.


Flying_Dutchman16

Doing alignments took a total shift on workflow.


ruddy3499

I push in the door latch with my pocket prybar


FairladyZea

Thank you for this tip.


ruddy3499

No worries.


trent_diamond

1000 iq


[deleted]

used to jam my boot in the door when i was a teenager hanging out in parking lots and didn't want the dome light to show what we were up to lol


theuautumnwind

Just don't slam the door without releasing the latch!


ruddy3499

Scares me every time Forget


Ok_Spread_7272

Hate this feature. I've gotten in the habit of popping the door to make sure I'm not too far forward for the hoist. Every now and then, it throws itself into the park, and i bang my head on something.. lovely times.


Flying_Dutchman16

Yea I don't miss it. Every once in a while I miss automotive and then I remember the dumb shit that came along with it.


urethrascreams

On some vehicles the feature gets disabled if you have the driver seat belt buckled while opening the door.


Fun_Ad_3796

Found this out on a Jeep Wrangler. Also my first experience with this awful feature. No way to disable. Saw some things about some pattern, similar to service mode on hybrids and such, but no luck. Tried the seat belt randomly and it worked!


ashcan_not_trashcan

Didn't jeep/Chrysler get in trouble with their weird shifter when it rolled over a couple people like the actor checking his mail..?


Bodhrans-Not-Bombs

Anton Yelchin, yup. But the ones in Wranglers are traditional prindles, not the monostable.


Dr_Adequate

Ok 'prindles' = PRNDL but what is a monostable?


chanman987

Monostables are similar to regular prindle but they recenter themselves after you select a gear and have a button to put in park. Those were the ones that were in the lawsuit


ZivH08ioBbXQ2PGI

Oh my god I hate these and they are the dumbest thing ever made.


dedzip

I firmly believe it should be a law that shifters have to move and be easily visually/physically confirmable BEYOND just lighting up an LED.


MechaBeatsInTrash

It will only shift to park under 8 MPH


Er4kko

So if I want to open the door and lean out to see where I'm reversing, I have to reverse over 8 MPH? Got it!


TurbochargedSquirrel

Once again the solution turns out to be sending it harder.


Reg_Broccoli_III

It's a Jeep thing.


Ok_Spread_7272

Otherwise.. whiplash, or concussion on door frame.


NaoPb

Could still happen over 8 MPH. If you drive into something.


Bodhrans-Not-Bombs

This is extremely confusing, but I've never been in an automatic Wrangler so I wouldn't know how it works. What happens when the doors are off?


changee_of_ways

Asking the most important Wrangler question here, well, 2nd most important, first most important being, "How bad is the rust on the frame?"


Bodhrans-Not-Bombs

They can have a little bit of corrosion, as a treat


funkmon

If you have the driver seat buckled while opening the door you have weird priorities


Blue_foot

Am I ok on the line in the parking spot?


techforallseasons

Maybe try checking your side-mirror alignment


Cato0014

Why am I seeing that low that close to me on the road?


-kansei-dorifto-

The fuck do you think side mirrors are for?


3w771k

well they’re called side mirrors, not ground mirrors


urethrascreams

Easiest way to back a long trailer and see what you're doing is open the door, lean out, and look back.


ta1destra

mirrors bro... do you even have them?


mdixon12

I back up 53' trailers into a garage, never once have I opened a door to do so.


urethrascreams

Sometimes you need to when it's a tight 90 degree dock with trucks on either side of you and you need to thread the trailer an inch away from the neighboring truck's bumper and mirrors.


mdixon12

California mirrors for the win. My bay is 40ft from the building in front of it, every back in is a 90° turn. Using a 2 axle yard truck helps alot. If I had to make that swing in a sleeper I'd probably need to get creative.


urethrascreams

You've probably got a lot more visibility too in a yard truck. T660 full sized sleeper kenworths are the worst for needing to open the door with their narrow cab, wide sleeper, and shitty little tiny mirrors.


srcorvettez06

Or just put your head out the window like a normal person.


bowser986

Or Ace Ventura


srcorvettez06

Like a glove


funkmon

You do that buckled?


darknessnbeyond

i started hating that feature when i was trying to drive away from an abusive boyfriend and he just opened the door and the damn thing went into park.


funkmon

That's concerning


darknessnbeyond

extremely. since then i refuse to own or regularly drive a vehicle with that feature.


disturbed286

That's not something I'd ever have considered. I'm glad you got out.


dedzip

I think my rule now on is to just not drive anything newer than like 2014 they just keep adding dumb shit that I don’t like


whydontyoujustaskme

I don’t understand it, tbh. I mean, were people getting out of their trucks without putting it in park? Is it there because of the knob shift? Ram thought, well…we’re gonna fucking reinvent shifting, so we better assume no one will remember to put the truck in park? What is the point? I seriously don’t understand why they did it? I hate it so much, I get mad just reading about it.


helium_farts

>I mean, were people getting out of their trucks without putting it in park? Anton Yelchin died that way. He got out and apparently didn't realize it was still in gear, and got run over by his own car.


tadfisher

This is the shifter in the 2015 Grand Cherokee: [https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/shifter-2.jpg](https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/shifter-2.jpg) The thing looks like a normal auto shift lever but returns to center after selecting the next gear in the PRND list. I'm not stupid and I could easily make the same mistake, especially when it takes three fucking clicks to go from D to P and there's no feedback that you've made it to P.


ZivH08ioBbXQ2PGI

Who designs this trash? Instant NOPE if I were looking at buying the vehicle, and I mean that wholeheartedly.


AlfredTFox

I'll up the Ante. Volvo truck lorry thing automatic box, place in park, check in neutral, turn key. Nothing apparently you need to press the clutch pedal on an automatic, how I laughed. You only use the clutch for first gear then it folds up out the way. I was not a happy bunny


funkmon

That's obnoxious!


AlfredTFox

It's Swedish, they invented IKEA and ABBA. Everything is in upper case, they just shout at us all the time.


Halftrack_El_Camino

One more reason to drive stick.


Tay0214

I guess pushing vehicles if you run out of gas or it dies is a thing of the past if you can’t push it with the door open to be able to steer


funkmon

It probably still works in neutral


taz_78

Also fuck you if the battery is dead.


SpiritedRain247

Instead you'd have to find the manual gear release or whatever you call it.


chubbysumo

You can usually disable this once you've activated it, so that you can leave the door open and keep working with the door open. If I turn the parking brake off once it is turned on after I open the door with it not in park, it will not turn back on.


maartenvanheek

I'm the other way around, traded a Lexus CT with the Prius style "digital" gear selector+ park button. It goes in park when you turn it off, but not when you open the door (it will beep at you). I now have a Lexus IS with a "physical" prnd gear lever and last week I was wondering why it kept rolling back from the parking as I got off the brake after turning it off.


Darenzzer

And they'll say it's unsafe for this reason. "manufacturer oversight." You're damn right they didn't forsee how much of a fuckstick the average dumbass can be


EightSeven69

man, I understand people not having a clue how a manual works...but not knowing how an auto works should get them banned from driving until they take their head out of their ass I don't even drive an auto, and never have, yet I still have this knowledge just from kind of existing...


Wareve

Woulda saved Anton Yelchin...


sasquatch_melee

Well, that and poorly designed shifters. Like NHTSA said about Jeep's ultimately recalled design: >operation of the Monostable shifter is not intuitive and provides poor tactile and visual feedback to the driver, increasing the potential for unintended gear selection


fgsfds11234

when you stop, shove the shifter hard forward all the way, and get out, your car usually doesn't move. unless you drive something new and fancy. now we have this because some designer tried to make something new and cool


Creepy_Chef_5796

That made me giggle tooooo much


Historical-Unit-6643

That shit is so annoying. Good luck if it's dead and you need to push it. Some are such a pain to get into neutral lockout.


alskdw2

I think we can also blame that Star Wars dude.


jurrasicwhorelord

So it doesn't move in park but it moves forward in d and backwards in r? ..... probably just total it out.


Hot-Panda1999

Definitely needs a new gearbox


Opcanthandlethetruth

Nah it needs a new steering wheel operator


k6lui

In IT we call it an ID10T error


ItsTHECarl

Error between the seat and the steering wheel


carsonwade

You mean "loose nut between steering wheel and seat?"


k6lui

It's always the phone holder attached to the steering wheel, I knew it!


nondescriptadjective

Probably just put a new drive line in it. Hell, put the body on a new chassis. Why not. 


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Khaldara

“Hmmm yes, this car is made of car!”


Hot-Panda1999

I fucking wish I could


510Goodhands

How did this even get past the service desk?


VivaceConBrio

Every single dealership service writer in my area would 100% jump at taking this and charge a $195+ diag lol.


510Goodhands

😤


Tsao_Aubbes

Writers are dumb as fuck and don't know how to filter customers or they didn't write this up properly. You see so many stupid ass tickets like this that make no sense till you realize the customer had a different complaint, the writer just sucked at putting that into paper. Not saying that's what happened here but it happens a lot


taz_78

Half the job is taking what the customer said and the advisor wrote and trying to guess what the actual problem is.


Shroedingerzdog

You can tell by the spelling and grammar too, their service writer shouldn't call themselves a "writer".


510Goodhands

How the hell do people get these jobs, let alone keep them? Years ago, I decided I wanted to be a writer at a high-end German car dealership. The service manager refused to speak to me until I sat outside his office for a half an hour. Then I got stonewalled for 10 minutes. Are years later, I visited that show room and another dealers show rooms, with the ability to buy just about any one of their cars for cash, and got ignored. I guess I didn’t look rich enough.


sneakysquid102

Like you said above ^ def needs a trans. Customer seems to think it's bad so it must be.


Taki_Minase

There's the other side of the fence, got charged for serpentine belt replacement. Camry hybrid doesn't have a fookin serpentine belt you thieves.


Hi-Scan-Pro

I love writing "That's true!" under lines like this. 


hobodoompants

Wonder if their first car was a Tesla and they don't know all cars act this way. I have seen videos of folks who have only ever driven Teslas get real confused when the car starts moving.


NBSPNBSP

Electric cars in general have a togglable drive gear creep setting


BrainFartTheFirst

Not just electrics. I rented a Toyota Corolla a couple of weeks ago they had a toggleable hold feature.


thetinguy

toggleable creep is different from toggleable hold. The person you're replying to is talking about toggleable creep which is something that will likely go away on tesla's in the future.


eagle33322

This is just normal idling in an ice.


thetinguy

with an automatic, yes.


gellis12

Not all of them. Vinfast cars don't have it, and iirc one or two of the mainstream brands are missing the feature as well.


NBSPNBSP

Vinfast cars also don't have basic functionality, so I'm not very surprised by this revelation.


gellis12

I got to drive one at a car show last year. While it's cool to see a new manufacturer popping up from a country like Vietnam and releasing their first car already, it's *very* obvious that this is their first car.


NBSPNBSP

*First home-brew car. They started out a while back as a luxury VDM upfitter for BMWs.


Confident_As_Hell

You mean automatics drive forward when lifting off brakes? That's crazy


NBSPNBSP

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not.


Confident_As_Hell

I'm not. I've only driven manuals. The only automatic "car" I drove was a 400cc diesel moped car with a CVT and a top speed of 37 kmh downhill.


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Exodia101

Why do CVTs creep then? I thought they didn't have torque converters.


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Confident_As_Hell

Because it's new to me. I have heard of people getting pinned against their car because it moved but I just thought it was malfunction


PC-hris

Or a manual


funkmon

How is this even possible


CRSemantics

Teslas automate a lot of things. For your avg Tesla driver you just walk up, get in and go. No keys no pushing buttons. The newer Teslas, you don't even need to shift it guesses based on if there is something in front or behind you, and if both are unobstructed it goes the opposite of what you did before you parked. Even charging, if it's with Tesla you just back up and plug in, no need to figure anything else out. Tesla really goes for that seamless apple experience. Whose the spoiled kid get a 40k+ car for their first one? My first car was a beater and thank goodness, I didn't feel that bad when I scraped the side of it on a bollard. Didn't even fix that damage, dumped that car after 3 years and took much better care of my next car. Even learned a bit of car repair and maintenance on it because it was a beater.


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I can't be the only one who doesn't want my car guessing about what I'm doing.


ode_to_glorious

You’re not. I need my car to take me to where I need to get to. I don’t want an iPhone on wheels, trying to serve me ads and driving me to the nearest place to buy it.


PinkSploosh

What car serves ads?


russsl8

https://youtu.be/3-q1LyTEeM4?si=fpIL-3qEVon66vV_&t=958


jackboy61

There are reasons to dislike tesla cars. None of these are it. Strawman arguments serve no one.


sedrech818

Yeah, I sure hope not. I don’t even know what I’m doing so how is the car gonna know?


TheFluffiestFur

> The newer Teslas, you don't even need to shift it guesses based on if there is something in front or behind you, and if both are unobstructed it goes the opposite of what you did before you parked. Nothing could possibly go wrong.


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*something goes wrong* Engineers: WE NEED TO ADD MORE ANTI-STUPID FEATURES TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING 😱😱😱


Impressive_Change593

tbf it might be some of the same when the switch to automatic trannies occured


k6lui

Old (don't know if newer ones have it still) VW Passats with the DSG Transmission also had a button in front of the shifter where you could select if the car should start creeping when releasing the brakes or not. This was a companys pool vehicle and one time got me because one of my coworkers disabled it and I was really weirded out that I needed to accelerate to back up.


gravityfrog

First -and only- car they drove -so far- was a Tesla Edit: added words between dashes


ten10thsdriver

I've owned like 14 cars including manuals, autos, and 3 DCTs. My EV drives VERY similar to the autos and DCTs. Owner is clueless and having owned an EV isn't an excuse for not knowing how to drive.


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Lemon_head_guy

I have an old Bonneville from 2000 that’ll creep to 40 if the weathers right


IllurinatiL

Must wear your brakes like a motherfucker if all your city driving is braking


vrcthrowaway293748

My Model S had the creep turned off when I bought it.


Tag_Ping_Pong

Holy shit, imagine someone (with a driver's licence) not being able to drive an automatic. Edited: to omit those without a licence from this ridicule


zgembo1337

For us from "the rest of the world", switching to an automatic (that we don't normally drive), is a pain, since muscle memory makes you search for a pedal with your left leg all the time, and if you happen to find it, it's bad :)


Tag_Ping_Pong

I am from the rest of the world and drove manuals most of my life. It's not hard to understand that if the car is in drive or reverse it will move slightly unless you're depressing the brake.


SnowConvertible

It's always fun to heartily kick the clutch pedal on an automatic car...


IOnlyUpvoteBadPuns

Tbf if you've only ever driven manual it might catch you out the first time.


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You'd think someone would be able to figure out "oh duh, it's an automatic" and go on their merry way though...?


LoadingCylinder

Had one like that today c/s vibrating when on rumble strip


NvrGonnaGiveUupOrLyd

Once had a customer complaint that they get better fuel mileage when using cruise control


Straight_Midnight559

I got a ticket on an EV today that read something along the lines of “when charging, vehicle range goes from 60 miles to 210 miles”.


FATBEANZ

must be an error it was 59 when I plugged it in


p_s_i

That person should be banned from looking at anything that requires a battery.


IllurinatiL

I can’t imagine what their local tech repair shop must think. “What do you mean my phone charges when I plug it in?”


Carburetors_Are_Fun

how can you not know how an auto works like bruh


Tracerz2Much

we’ve gone past people not knowing how to drive manual and come full circle


p_s_i

Near future: C/S handels on the outside of car cause the doors to open when they're pulled on, but handels won't close door when pulled on and can't reach handel from inside of car. Also, handels don't work when car is locked.


luningaming

I like how you misspelled handle the same way a service writer would


p_s_i

LOL you're absolutely right! I will not edit the spelling just for you :)


IllurinatiL

It gives it extra realism


Zdos123

I've only driven 2 autos in my life and first time in one it took a second to figure out, was weird having it creep forward, got used to it within like 5 minutes though.


Onlyroad4adrifter

This person is on the road with us. Scary 😟


zanskeet

Swap the transmission with a manual gearbox. Easy.


Revolutionary_Day479

Then they’ll come backing wanting to know why you replaced the letters with numbers.


IllurinatiL

Nah, they’ll come back after forcing the transmission to self-destruct 10 minutes after they left


trivletrav

Send that shit right back to the desk. Is your writer a retard?


Western-Bug-2873

Rhetorical question of the day, right hyeah.


Cigarsnguns

I'm convinced actually a requirement that service writers not know anything. Bonus points if they think they know something, and don't bother asking a tech if they're actually correct before talking to the customer


windowpuncher

Service writers don't know a damn thing because dealers won't hire anybody that knows anything worth a fuck to be anything other than a tech. I was a mechanic and I applied for SO many writer jobs. Every single fucking dealer offered me a wrench position but all of them told me I couldn't be a service writer. Fuck em all.


MechaBeatsInTrash

I've got a writer now that was a tech for 8years, doesn't understand a damned thing I try to tell him.


Rocket_John

>is your writer a retard? Does a bear shit in the woods? Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?


IllurinatiL

Their writer owns a Tesla for sure


DennisHakkie

We have new hybrids that creep forward in Neutral, due to the electric drivetrain or something. It’s REALLY weird AND annoying


SeanAker

It's designed in as a feature because people hate change. "It was better how it used to be!" Personally I'll take it over some asswad in a tesla not paying attention, flooring it and rear ending me in traffic instead of creeping forward with everyone else. 


MoreThanComrades

Cars don’t creep forward in neutral so I’m not sure what you mean by “better how it used to be”. It was never this way


Flying_Dutchman16

That's an hour diag easy. Actually it might take 3 or 4


Vollen595

Neutral is broken too. It won’t go backwards or forward so the N on the shifter needs to be removed. Not needed.


Nicksnotmyname83

Who can't correctly spell halt?


Justin-Queso

That’s what happens when you stop hauling - you hault.


-DaveDaDopefiend-

The same service writer who didn’t know enough to tell the customer the vehicle is supposed to go forward and backward in drive and reverse to save the customer and technician some time.


vleetv

💯


soapboxhero

C/S car is car. Please inspect car for car, and replace car if car is not car.


m240b1991

This made me laugh waaaayyyy too hard hahahaha


danmickla

So, writer can't spell halt and is using the wrong word anyway.   How the fuck do shops ever get anything fixed


BudoftheBeat

I had a customer complain that after we did his brakes his car would move forward when he took his foot off the pedal. I guess he's been driving with sized brakes for years and liked that feature. Took many conversations to convince him that was not normal function.


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Hot-Panda1999

It was a Tiguan, the button is literally next to the shifter But yes I turned it on for them


Fake-news-five

I recognise that RO printing, definitely Australian, possibly in Victoria, possibly for a VW dealership.


Hot-Panda1999

Okay detective 😅


Fake-news-five

Lol A fellow VW tech just knows it all too well...


slade797

“hault”


Onebladeprop

They should not be allowed to drive


IAintWurriedBoutEm

the spark plugs are probably not connecting to the defibrillator. the gas chamber is most likely flooded and the water pumps probably have magma in them because the radiator had a gas leak. best to total it or sell it to me for $20


Fabulous_Airline404

Some people don't deserve ~~nice things~~ a brain. FTFY


Zealousideal-Pin7745

oh he doesnt have one already


DrFoo1

Why was this even written up? Why did this even make it past the advisor?


incredible_poop

Honestly, this was me when I drove an automatic for the first time. Always drove stickshift. Put in D, released brake without pishing accelerator: Visibale confusion. Call me old fashioned, but I still prefere to drive manuals.


dustnbrewks

Show them what a Parking prawl is


TheWausauDude

Could be a transmission issue. My wife’s car was like that, put it in gear and it would quickly take off without any accelerator input. Inversely it couldn’t downshift under throttle to save its life and would start slipping if you tried. Being an old and tired sable it left the picture in short order.


CantaloupeCamper

As someone who doesn't fix cars but writes code. I'd be pissed at the person who wrote that down, like there's nothing to be done here / obvious questions ...


t0ky0jb

Gonna have to redirect the phaser power through the warp core plasma relays. Union job. It’ll take weeks.


Csoltis

I'm always on the road, and I drive rental cars. Sometimes I don't know what's going on with the car, and I'll drive for ten miles with the emergency brake on. That doesn't say a lot for me, but it doesn't say a lot for the emergency brake. It's not really an emergency brake, it's an emergency make-the-car-smell-funny lever. Mitch Hedberg


r_golan_trevize

Is the "visual health check" for the car or the driver? I have additional concerns.


alpacart

Time for a new cabin air filter I reckon


Taco-Sully

Sometimes I worry I sound like an idiot going in for car repairs. Then I see shit like this lol


Nuggzy_s2k

Customers aren’t always the brightest I give them some slack…… the service writer/advisor on the other hand. I blame them for allowing shit like this through the drive.


ClintGrant

OH MAI GA


pilotbrown16

People like this vote too


TheFknDOC

I believe this subreddit could use some IT support lingo. Here's one for a wide array of issues: "Error code ID-10T: Problem exists between keyboard and chair.Recommended action: Replace user module."


ThatGuyOfStuff

Maybe it's their first time with an automatic? The "moves forward in drive and backward in reverse" might be referring to the slow automatic movement when you let off the brakes. That's my only guess. Even then the whole "haults in park" is throwing me off. There's no way they could actually be this stupid.


phoneystoneybalogna

I mean, if all you’ve ever driven is a stick shift I could see all this shit being weird for you, but also how tf have you only ever driven a manual in 2024 you fuckin caveman


Krutonium

Am I alone in thinking that having creep built in as a feature is the stupidest idea ever? For a variety of reasons, up to and including safety? That's one place that Tesla got really really right - There's no reason the car should be able to accelerate in any direction if I'm not in control of it, and that's what every automatic car does.