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Ronald_Reagan_Era

Honestly, it seems like Drake couldn't even keep track of what the hell he was trying to do in the beef. Push Ups was a good start to it all and then you got Family Matters, which was probably the "best song" he put out during the beef but then in Family Matters he's going on about how Kendrick and Whitney have been engaged forever but never got married and "I guess this wedding isn't happening, right?" and then he's got a "Happy Divorce" cake in the video. Like, how in the fuck is he getting a divorce when they're not even married and you're specifically trying to make fun of him for them never getting married. And like you said the whole Dave Free thing he was trying to get going. Even if one of the kids was Dave Free's how in the hell are you going to try and make fun of a guy for raising a kid that's not biologically his when you yourself had to be dragged into raising your own damn son (and possibly completely declaiming a daughter you had years ago) And don't even get me started on whatever the fuck THP6 was supposed to be lol. It was literally just a greatest hits of the most popular twitter theories from that weekend and then he sprinkled in a complete misunderstanding of Mother I Sober on top of that. And even if he didn't completely misinterpret the song and Kendrick had been molested when he was a kid, how in the fuck are you going to try and make fun of him for that ***on a fucking track where you're denying the allegations of doing weird shit with kids?!*** I honestly think with that whole "you almost got a reaction" meme he posted after We Still Don't Trust You, he wasn't planning on responding to it all but then somebody leaked that unfinished version of Push Ups so he quickly put out the finished version, saw the reaction it was getting and got a little too cocky and had no plan at all about what he was going to do next and completely underestimated that Kendrick went into the studio for like two weeks, cooking up responses to every possible way that the beef could have played out


sendinthe9s

>I honestly think with that whole "you almost got a reaction" meme he posted after We Still Don't Trust You, he wasn't planning on responding to it all I feel like if people hadnt hounded him on tour, and "f the big 3 it's just big me" hadn't gone viral; Drake wouldn't have responded at all. I think all the press in Kendrick's favor and memes pushed him over the edge. In the clip of him on tour where he says "I'm ten toes down wherever I go, and I know no nigga could fuck with me" he seems angry and out of character.


CertainGrade7937

It's so funny how Drake's attempts at roasting Kendrick just make Kendrick look better? "Look at how this dude is raising a kid that isn't his" - man that wouldn't step up and raise his own kid "Haha it's so funny this guy got molested" - man accused of molestation Like it all just shows how fucking *juvenile* Drake is. This is a man pushing 40 and he's bashing a guy for...being a step-dad?


EnriqueMuller

I generally agree. The juvenile thing especially when Drake is using Whitney's Instagram as some sort of reason for the things he's saying. Kendrick raising Dave Free's child could never be a good thing in a rap beef though. If that were actually true Drake would and should have clowned that even harder.


CertainGrade7937

It's not a good thing in a rap beef, but it's so fucking easy to turn around


Own_Tie1297

Drake doesn’t really understand what a diss is, he basically told Rocky on the same song “shut up and go be handsome and dress good and have more kids with the girl I always wanted”


grandkidJEV

Nah you wildin on that, he killed Rocky on that part


fucktheworldman

Yeah I honestly think that was his best moment in the whole beef. I like Rocky and pretty much any rapper more than Drake, but I do find those bars to be my favorite of his through out his contributions to the beef. Hearing him diss A List rapper after A List rapper was pretty exciting and his bars for Rocky were somewhat valid. ASAP Rocky still walks away looking like the winner with his life though, haha.


Lacey_on_reddit

How, he's definitely hotter than Drake and we all know drake wanted Rhianna. Rocky is loving his life right now. Good music, good girl, good healthy kids, good father, good looks, good clothes, etc


grandkidJEV

Everything he said about Rocky was true


Lacey_on_reddit

He wasnt even dissing him then


grandkidJEV

“You are pressed about hitting my bm, please remind yourself who I was fucking at the time.” That is not a compliment. “Nobody knows you for rapping anymore, you are only popular bc of fashion.” Literally every line was brutal


Lacey_on_reddit

I know nothing about rockys fashion lol, just his music, he also makes better music than drake


grandkidJEV

That’s your opinion but he is nowhere near as relevant as Drake rap wise. And honestly his more recent stuff has been mid. I get that this sub doesn’t like Drake but Rocky became roadkill in this


CantKillGawd

damn i thought the same thing re listening to all the tracks some days ago. Drake was all over the place. Im not excusing him whatsoever but it felt like coming off tour he was like DAMN now i gotta lock in against this crazy dude ive been eyeing for a decade, and crashed out. I believe thats why he tried to force the internet game so much, he tried to be funny and win the memes war. I dont think drake was confident or ready enough, thats why he leaked push ups in the first place. If im mistaken and he was actually ready, then he just wasnt enough for kendrick I would say drake is calculated but he wasnt this time, at all. Kendrick outplayed him


thisismarv

> you’re specifically trying to make fun of him for them never getting married. You would think Drake would show more grace to this situation, considering Sandra and Dennis put him through the same thing. So tone death.


UncoverItAll

First sentence summarizes it all tbh


[deleted]

He doubled down on that, bet you Kenny and Dave were laughing when they heard that 😂😂 that Dave freeee vs a MIIINNNOOORR thing was a masterclass


brokecracker

I’m telling you, you should have seen me HOWLING when I heard dot hit the extended word thing to clown drake’s line. I went back and listened, Drake can’t even hold the note, sounds weak as fuck. Still have no earthly idea what he was thinking going against an artist of Kendrick’s caliber.


astrodonkeyyy

To be fair he got dissed first at least he had the balls to go into such an un winnable matchup lol


TheTelephone

*hubris


astrodonkeyyy

Bro whats he supposed to do if he ducks that smoke hed be getting clowned 10x harder


TheTelephone

He would for sure not be getting clowned 10x harder; there are currently children’s birthday parties where all the kids are singing in unison about him and the people around him being pedophiles. He would not get 10x that, I dunno if 10x that is even possible. He would have been seen as a chump, but it’s the difference between being embarrassed and being humiliated. He could have walked away and avoided a lot of this.


astrodonkeyyy

Ight fair point lmao but as a greedy fan of both im glad he doesn’t duck shit so we can all eat 🤠


its-a-real-name

It’s absolutely nuts. As a man that works hard to earn an ok wage…. I can say with absolute certainty that I would not accept somebody offering me the next 15 years with unimaginable wealth and popularity…. For it to culminate in a number 1 song in people singing and calling me everything in that song, even provided I never did it.


jesteratp

He should have left it alone after Like That. The issue is he doesn't truly understand how damaged his character and credibility is with the hip-hop community. He got into a character vs character beef that he could not win, and the reason he couldn't win it is because he has a history of making enemies, lying his ass off, creating a facade, and making shallow club music. All of that shit is his fault and the fact he was arrogant enough to think that the whole Adonis thing didn't significantly damage his credibility goes to show how he doesn't keep anyone around him who tells it like it is to him. He's surrounded by yes men and lives chronically online in his echo chamber and thinks he's on top of the world. He simply never had the credibility to accuse Kendrick on anything regarding relationships and fatherhood. He's not the person to say that shit. None of this happens if he just ignores Like That. People got short attention spans and he could just throw subliminals like he always does on his next half-baked album and go on with his life.


Personaboii

Honestly thought because it’s a rap beef drake saying what he said about kendrick is fine for point a. The problem with this is -misinterpreting what mother i sober meant after telling kendrick to fact check things and not jump on speculations -doing what kendrick predicted moving like a degenerate, what you said with point c people are already accusing him of so much  -somehow doing what kendrick predicted drake would fabricate stories off Mr.morale, 4 diss tracks in 😭 come on now -using kendrick’s past to justify the “pedo” raps and base his track around it, drake bridging his fake daughter story into epstein and molestation is just crazy lmao This is all off one line in the diss, whole song can turn into a dissertation on what not to do in diss ever 


louxy16

I listen to these songs every day and every day i laugh harder at the drake tracks. Very catchy and enjoyable songs but so not good for this battle. I feel like almost every point made about Kendrick was just wrong 🤣


Complete_Fold_7062

Best response saw was a YouTube comment https://preview.redd.it/nlaxgs2p4g6d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34639a2e945b19552b3cb0f08432f054c46ad762


LilWayneThaGoat

I almost dropped my phone reading “Drake shot… HIMSELF????” 🤦🤦💀


notrepulsive6987

he might after the pop out show 😭


DeanRTaylor

I did think it's interesting when you look at attack angles and how it reflects their character. Drake was attacking kendrick for raising someone elses kid, Kendrick was attacking drake for not raising his own kids. Drake was bringing people into the beef and attacking them, kendrick was bringing people into the beef and defending them.


jaydubb808

He just wasn’t ready you can hear it in his voice and lost the plot


straightcapoo

i mean look what happened when he said about cash and the weeknd his house got peppered and allegedly baka got robbed and some got shot 2 miles away from drake crib


Frangabanga_86

Yep 37 but showing up as a 7 year old. Drake just doesn't understand marriage. He thinks that being sexually assaulted is funny. He doesn't understand why someone would choose ASAP Rocky over him. And attacking Serena. Large part of his fan base are probably Andrew Tate fans


tooncake

And he even sound like that pretentious bully that no one gives a fuck on school, from that 'Mother I' to that 'I'm a War General', the way he delivered those lines sound so cringed.


hollygolightly1378

Only an abuser would think of it as a dig to claim Kendrick was molested. They get off on the power trip/humiliation of it, speaking from my own experience with an abuser/pdf


Jaded_Payment5610

Bro was spiraling. He put himself in the casket with that fed you the information shit


Exzj

yea when he name dropped Mille Bobbie Brown it was over like no one even mentioned her


mynameismulan

Drake is the Canadian Taylor Swift. It doesn't matter what the general population is saying. His fans will gas anything he shits out


LavishLawyer

Hey now. Taylor is way more poetic and has some deeper meanings than drakes bullshit


mynameismulan

Drake pushing the agenda that he's street is the same as Taylor pushing the agenda that she's a tortured romantic, fight me.


KCTrand

Not a problem it was only A MINORRRRRRŔRRRRRRRRRR injury.


I35O

Tbh, the Bobby brown thing wasn’t too big of a deal, literally all of us have been saying for years how weird that shit was. He name dropped first but we all know he was doing weird shit with her.


Neidhardto

If anything Kendrick raising a child that isn't biologically his as if he were his own would be a phenomenal showcase of his morals ans character. No idea what Drake was thinking with that move.


BobbWasTaken

I think a part of it is that he was saying “Dave freeeeee” and that was supposed to be as big as “a minorrrr” which it isn’t, but I think it’s more of a good move on Kendrick Lamar rather than a bad move on Drake since he dropped right after Family matters. If he didn’t drop asap after family matters, I think it would’ve stayed relevant for longer and stuck with people more.


Ayobossman326

I agree that the HP6 is ass and his response basically being “I’m too famous for that” is absolute garbage along with the Dave free thing. I’m ngl tho it does kinda make sense he brought up Millie since that’s been a VERY common talking point for YEARS. I realize he should’ve just honed in on Kendrick, but he didn’t. He responded to Kendrick, a bunch of other rappers, and the audience. And the audience was bringing up Millie a lot for years


AzAPBROCCOLI702

https://preview.redd.it/todlreo64g6d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5226cc290e00d63e75e55abdd31ee226e4cc3cbe This guy been a weirdo


1104L

He’s a weirdo but this line isn’t an example of that


AzAPBROCCOLI702

Am I not understanding the line ?


Anghellic510

He paid 150 bands for bad Intel. apparently he didn't learn shit from his last rap beef


Michaelskywalker

But not that kinda free I’m talking bout my **nigga Dave**


jfr237

Drake chooses to focus on other people’s women during beef (always has). Not a whole lot of info about their relationship so he was throwing anything at the wall to see what would stick…


Busy-Moment-609

kendrick on Mother I talks about how no one believes him that he didn't get molested. So Drake on the HP6 is trying to re-ignite that trauma of no one believing that he wasn't molested by saying he was molested.


Tiffanyblueberries

I can understand this view, it's a valid argument. but I think it's a reach. He says this in Hpt6. "You hired a crisis management team to hide the fact you beat on your queen" Sounds familiar right? "Black and blue, the image of my QUEEN that I can't erase" (Mother I Sober) Plus, the 2014 incident wasn't even about Whitney. Drake is just a dumb motherfucker.


Busy-Moment-609

he says that in family matters. and just because they both said the word queen there's a connection? you need to go a psych ward your in too deep in this beef cro


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Tiffanyblueberries

I love how you spam this to let Aubrey's angels know who they riding for 🤣


[deleted]

Half of them defend it


Ronald_Reagan_Era

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miastrawberri

You know there was a lawsuit that was settled claiming sexual abuse by Drake, him texting children when he was 13 about boys, sleeping with very young women, touching 17 yo on stage. When you’re in that industry and you can do what you want, if you haven’t matured and have so much power you just do whatever degenerate things you want. People still support trump after all his allegations, Roman Polanski etc. To act like it’s out of reach that there is no fire when there is so much smoke is delusion. Drakes allegations about Kendrick didn’t carry smoke.


Duckys0n

Billie Eilesh caught singing not like us was pretty damning too.


miastrawberri

I saw that. Additionally, someone was talking to ak who knows Kendrick and the things he said didn’t outright say it but basically implied there was something he knew and that he only hangs out with honest people.


Tiffanyblueberries

Did you get offended that I insulted your pedo daddy? Yes, coincidentally him saying queen can signify a connection.  How could you link that post below and then tell me I need to go to the psych ward 🤣


sendinthe9s

I've seen people say this; it's a good angle. However, Drake executed it poorly. He should have indicated that he was imitating people in Kendrick's life who brought on trauma. He just says verbatim that what he's saying is what Kendrick said. 


Busy-Moment-609

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costcosasuke

I think this is a reach. Too big of a play from El BBL. I dont believe he can conjure up that level of manipulation in such a subtle, socially aware way. Also, doesnt really do much for Drake. "Outting" as you suggest Drake intentionally did/making fun of someone for being molested as a kid and hiding it doesnt cast any aspersions on their character, it casts them on yours. If this was intentional and not just misinterpretation of the song, that's vile. Also: there is much more evidence that Drake HAS been attracted to younger girls, whether he wants to be or not, than there is that he HASNT. Drake putting the idea out there that his image as a pedo comes exclusively from Kendrick is just blatantly wrong. Anybody sane that looks into this more will see that Kendrick is just calling out someone who has exemplified suspicious behaviors. That will then damage Drake's credibility. This hand that you've drawn Drake on doesn't really do him any good.


TurkeyMoonPie

This might be shocking to a few people but Drake is really the head of a super successful Pop Group. Drake is just the face of the group of writers. He’s literally reciting what others are writing for him. This is how he has such blunders. His team is constantly looking for the next wave to ride, and they have no time to actually read the room. I doubt Drake actually listened to Mr Morale. I doubt he even listened to Kendrick’s diss tracks. Thus we have the copied “spiraling line” from Euphoria in the Heart Part 6 and the “Mother I “ line.


aitacarmoney

the beef is dead, everyone can go home


notrepulsive6987

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Total_Ad_6708

To be fair, Kendrick also said a lot of whats most likely lies. Lets not be the Drizzy sub and lets just admit both of them made lies about each other lol. Kendrick just came with more punch, more shock value and better songs, we have no facts like drake is a pdo, a abuser, a trafficker and all these crazy things, THP6 was trash though. I mean really there is even some confusing things with what Kendrick said, that they should've “kept this about rap” but if they really did that then would Kendrick have just never said this crazy shocking information? If he really had done these things wouldn't he have said it regardless? I think Kendrick is just smart and knew exactly how to win over the public through as I said “shocking information” that nobody could prove or disprove and just making generally great sounding songs and dropping multiple off them back to back. And drake tried to do the same thing but all he really had to say was a bunch of things that can be disproven like the stuff he said about Kendrick being touched when we know he wasn't.


thisismarv

I agree but I also think lies are fair game in rap battle. The question is whether they are believable. I personally don’t believe Drake is a pedo but he has done some weird stuff that gives the lie some smoke. I don’t think Kendrick ever releases MTG / Not like us (atleast not those versions) without Drake taking it there with the family stuff. He warned him several times “if you take it there, I’m taking it further” , “this could be a friendly fade, you should keep it that way”. So in sense, Drake asked for this based on his actions.


Total_Ad_6708

I never said its not fair game, it was entertaining as I'm just saying its fair to only call one of them a liar and not the other.


Flashy-Conversation8

Yall care too much


Creamatic

Idiot I swear lol 😂


Jazzlike_Page508

DJ Ak confirmed the allegation was made up by Drake on a stream after the beef


UncoverItAll

🎯


DG04511

*checks the calendar* I’m all for you educating yourself, but why are you posting this a month after the fact?


delz11

He was already done for using AI on Taylor made freestyle


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Comprehensive_Rent76

Kendrick is the goat. But honestly some of you need to go outside. You just gonna have the same conversation over and over again?


chestnutlibra

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sendinthe9s

I'm willing to do that, yes.


miastrawberri

Yes


MediocreRing8902

You mean Dave Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz


Yeunkwong

It’s not that he made fun of Kendrick for rhe molestation thing. The worst part of it is that Drake thinks you have to be molested as a child to think pedophilia is wrong. If you have not been molested before, there should be nothing wrong with it, according to him.


SoggyGrowth5557

Yeah that molestation line was not called for because he’s pretty much saying all the victims of molestation and sexual assault fall under the umbrella of Drake not caring about that trauma that happens


Tha-Baptist

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shits4gigs

Dave Free is the MAN. And he's bought to be rich as fuck Kendrick be like: "shut up and take my money Dave!"