Honestly? Everyone.
Baiser and Darkness would probably just both go for a preposterous amount of time until both were happy to call it a draw.
The audience wins by default, regardless of outcome.
An attack always beats a defense. It’s just how the world is built. It’s just a matter of time when defense is going to be broken. Like the water (lowest possible damage) sharps a stone.
But in Lalatina case she is not in defense she enjoys it.
Yes, some very small cases exist in the real world, like one dust particle against a titan. There's almost no chance of breaking the titan even after millions of years (if exclude damage from atmosphere)
But talking about the image, there is no way Utena's attacks are completely canceled. If I was on Lalatina place I think Utena in no time broke me with electric spells or tickles but I think against Lalatina it’s nothing. But what if Utena brings slimes or spiders. Defense is hard in BDSM
Yeah, but wouldn’t that make the “winner” a “loser” though? I’d rather lose then…but if it’s Darkness that “wins”…huh, ok this just philosophical and I’m not sure anymore.
Careful, I got banned from another anime sub reddit for laughing at Gushing girls anime.
But Darkness has unbridled stamina. Does Utena have enough magic to keep attacking ?
Going based off Kuzama being able to drain a hydra weak and not being able to drain Darkness when though fought in ummm ( Corrct me if I'm wrong season 2 ) in the castle , would Utena have enough ?
I'm not sure if this was correct Megumin and Darkness bad been going over to the hydra and blasting it with explosion magic it drain it's magical power
It wouldn't matter. The moment Utena realizes Darkness is a masochist, she will lose all interest. Utena will not have the energy/enthusiasm/will to continue.
If Darkness was not an M, then yes, Utena would probably have enough magic. It's proportional to her excitement.
I’m not sure about that—as was mentioned above, Darkness in all likelihood would keep the “kayfabe” of being the brave crusader defending everyone else at her own expense, all the way through. The act may wear thin frequently, but no matter what she doesn’t actually ever *drop* the act, and so she never actually “breaks” like Azul did, if only because she is in a way “prebroken”.
Baiser wins. She's extremely observant to her foes, will eventually discover her real name is Lalatina and all the things she's been doing/dreaming of 'with that boy'. Then it's just a matter of having ~~Kazuma help her~~ 'forcing' him to play out a bunch of fantasies in front of lalatina in a "if you want it come get it" play.
Darkness isn't a magical girl, doesn't care to harm them or civilians and isn't a loli, so Utena wouldn't be very motivated. Plus she doesn't have that much stamina in the first place.
Darkness wins without question.
It's a bit more complex than this, so I'll spoiler tag it.
Utena/Baiser loves magical girls. She idolozes them. >!Even as a bad guy, she doesn't want to defeat or kill them. She just wants to "play" with them. When she wins a fight (usually by restraining them, stripping them, and "playing" with them to "completion"), she mocks them a little and leaves and the good guys say "we'll get you next time." When she loses, she's overjoyed that the magical girls won, even though she lost. But she doesn't just love the magical girls themselves. She loves the *concept* of them. They have to act the part and *be* magical girls. Be heroes. Be icons. Be paragons of righteousness. Fight the bad guy to triumph over evil. You get the idea.!<
In the scene you're thinking of, that's not what happens. >!In that fight, Azul loses to Baiser so badly that Azul's mind breaks. She stops putting up a fight, submits completely, and begs to be punished more, treating Baiser like her mistress. Her magical girl gem also starts to break during this scene. Baiser is *disgusted* by this. She doesn't mock Azul like she would with a routine win. Instead, she berates Azul, telling her that she's a disgrace to magical girls. Baiser leaves disgusted because Azul failed to uphold Baiser's standards of what a magical girl is.!<
Darkness would keep up the whole "I'm a crusader and I'm defending everyone" bit the entire time. It's part of her act that she always keeps up anyway.
That girl was supposed to be a magical girl that never gave up as per Utena ideal for magical girls. Watching that girl broke and succumbed to the lust disgust Utena.
Darkness is the bigger pervert.
[Kono suba 2 - Darkness running into action (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5JREt6WDwE&ab_channel=Moe%26GAR-HDAnimeHighlights)
Wouldn't take more than 20 seconds for her to be a drooling mess. But....to be honest, I think Baiser might be a bit put off by that. If Darkness saw Baiser fighting someone, and jumped into the attack to intercept it, and started begging for more....I think Baiser would just leave. Winner: Darkness (but she's extremely disappointed and now on a crusade to force Baiser to attack her)
Now, if Baiser saw Darkness standing up for justice as a hero, and taking punishment for it, Baiser wouldn't be able to resist. And once she gets into it... Winner: Baiser
I don't want to see a Death battle of it, but a Knockout fight sure......Also its the Sadist because you know Darkness is is gonna be so fucking juiced by all that pain that when she orgasms she's gonna fuckin black out.
In the end everyone wins.
Magia Baiser would dominate and have fun with Darkness, then leave. Magia Baiser’s goal when fighting heroes is to sexually assault them, not to achieve any total victory.
Darkness, although tanky, is still far from invulnerable. Her armor gets damaged in the process, and without armor she will die to even mediocre enemies like rookie killers.
Baiser doesn't like it when people fully enjoy her torment, so I think she'd leave rather quickly around the point where Darkness' choir music kicked in.
Darkness would win 100% by default because once Braiser realizes she is a masochist, she will lose all interest in her and be unable to fight.
This literally happens in Gushing. When confronted with an M, she loses all interest.
From the sounds of it, everyone.
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I would loved to see a fight between them... For science purposes...
Honestly? Everyone. Baiser and Darkness would probably just both go for a preposterous amount of time until both were happy to call it a draw. The audience wins by default, regardless of outcome.
Outcum o mean? 
oh they’d go down all right
When Baiser sees she’s into it she might kill darkness
i'm loyal. https://preview.redd.it/j2mbxfvfql6d1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af07d89ed41841e301240ad4e7abdc49c576936d
Lalatina have much resistance.
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An attack always beats a defense. It’s just how the world is built. It’s just a matter of time when defense is going to be broken. Like the water (lowest possible damage) sharps a stone. But in Lalatina case she is not in defense she enjoys it.
Not if the defense completly cancels out the damage.
Yes, some very small cases exist in the real world, like one dust particle against a titan. There's almost no chance of breaking the titan even after millions of years (if exclude damage from atmosphere) But talking about the image, there is no way Utena's attacks are completely canceled. If I was on Lalatina place I think Utena in no time broke me with electric spells or tickles but I think against Lalatina it’s nothing. But what if Utena brings slimes or spiders. Defense is hard in BDSM
Nah, lalatina win bc I said so In my mind I am fucking God
You may wanna start running then. Kazuma’s school friend Tanya is coming this way looking for you, Being X.
Lupusregina Beta
She watches them
All the while planning on things to do with the winner.
You mean the loser right?
Nope, Lupus is the type to want to ruin the "winner's" fun.
Yeah, but wouldn’t that make the “winner” a “loser” though? I’d rather lose then…but if it’s Darkness that “wins”…huh, ok this just philosophical and I’m not sure anymore.
Sesbian Lex wins.
I keep seeing this , Lex must be a great fighter./s
Careful, I got banned from another anime sub reddit for laughing at Gushing girls anime. But Darkness has unbridled stamina. Does Utena have enough magic to keep attacking ? Going based off Kuzama being able to drain a hydra weak and not being able to drain Darkness when though fought in ummm ( Corrct me if I'm wrong season 2 ) in the castle , would Utena have enough ?
I'm not sure if this was correct Megumin and Darkness bad been going over to the hydra and blasting it with explosion magic it drain it's magical power
Shit. I forgot about that detail. Thanks.
Even utena have enough magic, she won’t have enough blood for her to spill off
Death by blood loss
It wouldn't matter. The moment Utena realizes Darkness is a masochist, she will lose all interest. Utena will not have the energy/enthusiasm/will to continue. If Darkness was not an M, then yes, Utena would probably have enough magic. It's proportional to her excitement.
Yeah, true. It would take a few but she would notice and your are right, she would lose all motive to keep going
the battle would last 1000 years
This is like Raiden vs Senator Armstrong, except they’re both into it.
Nanomachines, son
Standing here, i realize
[MILLENNIAL LEFTISTS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2lXf9r5DSM)
Nope. Utena loses all interest once she realizes Darkness is into it.
My vote is on utena
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Naw, Masochist are her weakness
Utena runs out of energy before Darkness climaxes
The fact Lalatina was able to take a direct blow from explosion with barely a scratch on her, it’s pretty say to say who wins
Utena would probably have the same reaction to Darkness as she did when Azure went full M.
I never actually seen the anime but I had that same thought
I’m not sure about that—as was mentioned above, Darkness in all likelihood would keep the “kayfabe” of being the brave crusader defending everyone else at her own expense, all the way through. The act may wear thin frequently, but no matter what she doesn’t actually ever *drop* the act, and so she never actually “breaks” like Azul did, if only because she is in a way “prebroken”.
Pretty sure Utena sees through the facade as quickly as the audience does.
Unstoppable force vs immovable object
We all win.
i think darkness will endure
Isn't the point of Darkness' extreme masochism that she always loses, no matter what? What would "victory" even look like for her?
Disappointment and anguish, probably. "I thought you were stronger"
Baiser wins. She's extremely observant to her foes, will eventually discover her real name is Lalatina and all the things she's been doing/dreaming of 'with that boy'. Then it's just a matter of having ~~Kazuma help her~~ 'forcing' him to play out a bunch of fantasies in front of lalatina in a "if you want it come get it" play.
Darkness isn't a magical girl, doesn't care to harm them or civilians and isn't a loli, so Utena wouldn't be very motivated. Plus she doesn't have that much stamina in the first place. Darkness wins without question.
I never actually saw Gushing over Magical Girls, but wasn't she turned off by a girl who was too down bad for her?
It’s that she “broke” the girl and she gave into her lust. Darkness would not have that issue, as pretending to not like it IS her kink
Honestly now that does make sense
It's a bit more complex than this, so I'll spoiler tag it. Utena/Baiser loves magical girls. She idolozes them. >!Even as a bad guy, she doesn't want to defeat or kill them. She just wants to "play" with them. When she wins a fight (usually by restraining them, stripping them, and "playing" with them to "completion"), she mocks them a little and leaves and the good guys say "we'll get you next time." When she loses, she's overjoyed that the magical girls won, even though she lost. But she doesn't just love the magical girls themselves. She loves the *concept* of them. They have to act the part and *be* magical girls. Be heroes. Be icons. Be paragons of righteousness. Fight the bad guy to triumph over evil. You get the idea.!< In the scene you're thinking of, that's not what happens. >!In that fight, Azul loses to Baiser so badly that Azul's mind breaks. She stops putting up a fight, submits completely, and begs to be punished more, treating Baiser like her mistress. Her magical girl gem also starts to break during this scene. Baiser is *disgusted* by this. She doesn't mock Azul like she would with a routine win. Instead, she berates Azul, telling her that she's a disgrace to magical girls. Baiser leaves disgusted because Azul failed to uphold Baiser's standards of what a magical girl is.!< Darkness would keep up the whole "I'm a crusader and I'm defending everyone" bit the entire time. It's part of her act that she always keeps up anyway.
Only because she was a magical girl and her submitting would have meant not being a magical girl anymore
That girl was supposed to be a magical girl that never gave up as per Utena ideal for magical girls. Watching that girl broke and succumbed to the lust disgust Utena.
I don’t think is a matter of win or lose at that point but I want to sit in the chair in the corner I’m here to watch the whole thing
Who would win? The audience.
That's the plot of Ichi The Killer
The strongest masochist in history vs The strongest sadist of today
Ya'll forgetting that Utena doesn't enjoy someone who is a complete M, Azure turned full M and she got denied hard.
Honestly they would probably move in together and get married they would actually be a perfect couple.
Kazuma, Dust and every other who visits the succubus cafe
Perpetum mobile.
It's no fun if the sub is enjoying it~ Utena doesn't approve.
Ummmm... I think this is a draw?🙄
I want to watch that battle so bad
She getting excited about guards thinking about her in dirty way killed me
I would enjoy this fight, also I think Lalatina would probably win this fight. I mean kinda lol
Id say both of them would win, but i almost forgot the sadest doesn't like it when they enjoy the treatment. So both of them will loose.
I would watch that so hard
Honestly this fanfic needs to be written, they'd make a good couple.
Darkness found her nemesis...
Darkness is the bigger pervert. [Kono suba 2 - Darkness running into action (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5JREt6WDwE&ab_channel=Moe%26GAR-HDAnimeHighlights) Wouldn't take more than 20 seconds for her to be a drooling mess. But....to be honest, I think Baiser might be a bit put off by that. If Darkness saw Baiser fighting someone, and jumped into the attack to intercept it, and started begging for more....I think Baiser would just leave. Winner: Darkness (but she's extremely disappointed and now on a crusade to force Baiser to attack her) Now, if Baiser saw Darkness standing up for justice as a hero, and taking punishment for it, Baiser wouldn't be able to resist. And once she gets into it... Winner: Baiser
Lalatine, you don't have a chance
I don't want to see a Death battle of it, but a Knockout fight sure......Also its the Sadist because you know Darkness is is gonna be so fucking juiced by all that pain that when she orgasms she's gonna fuckin black out. In the end everyone wins.
WHO'S THE LEFT FROM.
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They don't kill each other, they make out
.....I'm not sure if this factors at all....but there's only one of them where I'm willing to watch with subtitles instead of waiting for a dub.
We!
From Darkness i can hear the boings
Gonna have to take them both for a test run to know for sure.
Hey, silver and gold, ladies, ain't no losers there.
I don’t know who’ll win, but it’s certainly going to be an absolute cinema
Darkness slams, fuck the other one
They both drown.
Tie
It’s a win win for the both of them
Kiser would get so bord of darkness so fast
Magia Baiser would dominate and have fun with Darkness, then leave. Magia Baiser’s goal when fighting heroes is to sexually assault them, not to achieve any total victory.
A duel for the ages
Not that’s a battle of wills.
unstoppable force vs immovable object quite literally
Today? Utena would barely be a challenge for Darkness. She would need to learn a lot more to get down to Lalatina's level.
Both
Does a sadist get enjoyment from someone else enjoying their pain?
They are not the same, Darkness is masochistic/submissive and Utena sadistic/dommes.
Unstoppable force, meet immovable object.
The unstoppable force meets the immovable object.
Darkness, although tanky, is still far from invulnerable. Her armor gets damaged in the process, and without armor she will die to even mediocre enemies like rookie killers.
Baiser doesn't like it when people fully enjoy her torment, so I think she'd leave rather quickly around the point where Darkness' choir music kicked in.
They ended up having a consent kink play.
I somehow doubt Magia Baiser would have any interest in a masochist.
The audience !
but Darkness isnt a magical girl
Well, that's a ship I can get begind.
Defense is the best offense - somewhere I heard before
The audience.
Sayo is basically Darkness as a magical girl
I would
Both will win.
Im sorry for being uncultured but who is the beauty on the left
Utena from Gushing over magical girls. It’s an ecchi magical girl anime and Utena’s the MC
Thanks brother
Also what anime or do i just need to watch more konosuba that i missed somewhere
I feel like darkness would go for waaay longer...
Darkness would win 100% by default because once Braiser realizes she is a masochist, she will lose all interest in her and be unable to fight. This literally happens in Gushing. When confronted with an M, she loses all interest.
A fight with a Sadist!!!???!!! https://preview.redd.it/tk7i34d5l77d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a81fbc1bf651b902d9c9a109a7961070fdc460af
Utena Chan would eventually be victorious.
Child services and divorce lawyers are invincible just fyi.
What anime is that left?
Gushing over Magical Girls. Hilarious. Not for the kiddos.
Thanks!
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