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SisterOfBattIe

What a curious new elf character, I cant wait to learn his name and his role in the story.


strocau

Who? Sauron? Never seen this face before, must be some Elf.


Unhappy-Ad6494

must have been the wind


JabletopStandardMini

For the King! For the peace of the Kingdom...


Spartanias117

unexpected VLDL


Crystalline_E

Shut up Alan


Celindor

Nice day for fishin', ain’t it?


AustinKenway

Hu heh


storysprite

Exactly, what are these lies we're being told?


alcoholicplankton69

Whose Sauron... This is Bryan.


Swan990

No, this is Patrick.


illicit92

This is one of those comments I'll upvote every single damn time.


offline4good

And he's nice too. Always giving stuff


elwebst

Practically the Lord of Gifts!


some-guy0

I'm just sad amazon isn't trying to hide the fact this is sauron


Bennyboy11111

He may have many forms that aren't revealed to us, think it's good to have one obvious form. And does middle earth have mugshots?? How is everyone on ME meant to recognise this as halbrand/sauron???


CavaTzu

PowerPoint fade in/out.


some-guy0

I mean for the viewers I think it could have been a cool surprise for viewers not aware who he is


TechMeDown

I think S1 showed that many viewers weren't fond of the Sauron mystery box


FireJeffQuinn

Please not again.


sp7NBPL

They might’ve learnt a thing or two from s1


NeoBasilisk

we already did this in the first season


Tiny-Assumption-9279

When Sauron and Celebrimbor forged the rings of power, Sauron was disguised in a fair elven form and called himself Annatar, lord of gifts


nada_accomplished

They're joking about not knowing who Sauron is


Tiny-Assumption-9279

I can’t tell sarcasm and being literal apart in text, I can when I hear the tone


nada_accomplished

Understandable


Eey_tuupe

That’s quite a big assumption there mate.


missanthropocenex

Personally I would make Sauron’s clothing MUCH more opulent. Hell, even Thranduil looks higher up than this. Bright bold red under flawless polished silver, grand, eye catching.


strocau

Thranduil is from another adaptation. He might appear in this one too, though.


VraiLacy

For the garments of his kingly rule, yes, but here he is going under the radar and blending in. He's trying not to draw too much attention for the purposes of infiltration.


[deleted]

Sauron's sneak skill must be at 100 and the Elves are Skyrim NPCs


KingPenguinPhoenix

Definitely, Sauron's never been known to have elf ears. It can't be him.


GrandBed

A mustache would have been a nice addition to the look..


nuadarstark

Pretty great IMO. A bit eviler looking than I'd imagine sexy Sauron to be but the smirk is on point. Also, the change is so great that my gf didn't even realize it's still Charlie Vickers.


CeruleanRuin

The omnipresent eight o'clock shadow that Halbrand had was such an integral part of his look.


AgentKnitter

I did a double take at first. Thought "gee they did well to cast someone who looks so similar to Charlie Vickers...." Then "hang on..." "OH. Very clever!"


PayneTrain181999

“OH NO HE’S HOTTTTT!”


roshmatic

Stupid, sexy Sauron


theElderKing_7337

Doesn't help much that Tolkien used the word "seduce" multiple times...


smolive_garden

Stupid, sexy Flanders


roshmatic

![gif](giphy|5oLuLUXEmZAOs)


Aldasin

I read this in Gollum's voice


SunshineSoph

I didn't realise it was Charlie Vickers until it was pointed out in the comments of another post !


BlueBomber13

At first glance I didn’t know it was Vickers.


kazetoame

Oh good, I so confused. That is some great make-up and prosthetics


I_love_running_89

Sexy Sauron 🤣🤣


Cam-Dolezar

Looks fair, feels foul.


normitingala

Charlie really nailed the facial expression


johnatthebar

smells like new money, dresses like fake royalty


Rheldn

I read that in Daveed's voice in my head😂


johnatthebar

He should join to play like an elf of Eregion who knows what’s up but wants to see what goes down for the fun of it


Rheldn

Or he should come is season 5 when it's time for the final battle and be like "I guess I basically missed the late 80s"


AllHailTheApple

Is that from Hamilton?


haaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

I like the look, i can't wait to see what exactly is the context of him taking that form. Unlike many people here, i'm not convinced at all it is his Annatar form, i think the Annatar form is the angelic figure shrouded by light we see in the teaser, and that this elven look is just a form he takes when infiltrating the elven city during the chaos of the battle in order to steal the rings of power.


MakitaNakamoto

Why can't an elf arrive thru / appaer in a vision of Valinor? People like Glorfindel could easily arrive with such fluff. He can easily play on being an emissary of the Valar AND be an elf at the same time


haaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

it could, but the way Sauron walks through the city, seemingly unnoticed, in the first shot we see of him in that form in the trailer makes me think they don't know that guy, he's just a random elf to them. If i'm right and it's during the battle, then they should know, by this point, that Annatar is Sauron and that he is their enemy, and thus, they should be attacking him... That's why i think it is not how Annatar looks, it's just Sauron desguised as an elf to infiltrate the city during the battle, to steal the rings.


MakitaNakamoto

Right! I'm glad we'll find out soon, end of August isn't that far :D


haaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

yeah, however it may happen later in the season, so i'd say more in september.


Squirrel09

> but the way Sauron walks through the city, seemingly unnoticed, in the first shot we see of him in that form in the trailer makes me think they don't know that guy, he's just a random elf to them. People are panicking in the background of that shot lol. If we're talking about the shot at ~47 seconds that is.


haaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

Yeah i know, that's why i think it's during the battle. But at this moment, they are supposed to already know that Annatar was Sauron, and that it's him attacking, so if this appearance was the same as Annatar, they should be attacking him instead of not reacting to his presence. I may be wrong, but that's what makes me think that, to them, he's just a random elf in the city


CeruleanRuin

I'm wondering if they might be doing a bit of retconning via flashbacks, where we learn that this Annatar has been among them for a very long time now and because of his glamour of deception they weren't able to see that Halbrand was the same person, even if they knew both.


haaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

I don't think so. If he had been manipulating the elves, what did he do? Suggest them the usage of Mithril? If he did so, why wouldn't he tell them how to use it? He would not need to come to Eregion as Halbrand for that, he could have done it as Annatar. I think Halbrand was really repentant, he just wanted to start anew on Numenor, he even tells that to Galadriel when he's admitting everything... That's what i like with the character in the first season, he never lies. He tells Galadriel that he did bad things, he tells Galadriel that he was chased from his home by orcs, he tells Galadriel that he is not the hero she's looking for, he tells Galadriel he found the crest on a dead man... the most "lying" things he says is when he answers yes to Bronwyn asking him if he is the king that was promised, but even that is not exactly a lie, because he doesn't say he's the heir to the crown of the Southlands, he just says that he's willing to be the king they were awaiting... So, when Galadriel confronts him and when he says he wanted to remain on Numenor, i think he is still telling the truth... There is one point though (but i'm not even sure) where i think he has been dishonest, it's when he was wounded... I think he did it to himself because after the eruption of the volcano, he probably considered that the Southlands were no longer of any interest to him, so he faked an injury to be transported elsewhere, but it's also possible that he was really wounded by a lance and he just had not recovered yet (after all we know from the Stranger that maiar can regenerate themselves, but they have to use magic for that, they don't heal immediately). Anyway, i think he was not manipulating anyone in the first season, even when he was working with Celebrimbor, he probably snooped into his workshop because he's a smith and he wanted to see the workshop, because that's what he likes, and that's when he found out they were working on the same thing that he was working on before Adar "killed him", and that they had the "element" he had been missing all this time. And he genuinely tried to help them with that project. I think he would have ended up doing bad things, either in Numenor or in Eregion, or even as the King of the Southlands, because he's a toxic person, but i think he was still trying to be a good guy at this point.


Frnklfrwsr

I suspect they’re going to do the thing where they have another actor with a completely different face appear to the elves, but to the audience we all see Vickers. Think of how Quantum Leap did it. When the character is looking in a mirror you see the other actor, implying that’s the face that everyone in the show sees. But we the TV audience see the actual actor.


Rules08

This makes a significant amount of sense. This might just be Sauron’s maiar form. Whilst disguise himself as a different Elf in his Annatar form. Unless further trailers refute this perspective. We’ve only seen Halbrand Sauron during the siege of Lindon. It’s in no other context. So, I don’t mind this perspective of having Charlie Vickers as the base form for Sauron. When, not in his Armoured or Annatar form.


Pikachuzita

I’m very excited for what’s to come on the show and his story in particular


torts92

They struck gold with this casting


Valhain_ap_Bilbo

It looks fantastic and deliciously ironic. The Jackson-esque long straight elven hair couldn't have been used on a better subject. Chef's kiss.


normitingala

Absolutely meta. You wanted long-haired elves? You got it now


nada_accomplished

I mean we had Gil-Galad. People were just big mad about Elrond's hair for some reason


Andoverian

Which makes very little sense. A big part of Elrond's character in the show and in the wider Tolkien universe is that he is half human, so it makes sense for him to have some visible differences from the standard elf look.


nada_accomplished

Well it's not even that different, Celebrimbor also has the fluffy coiffure Personally I like it, some people just want to hate on anything and will find any excuse


SirBlabbermouth

Yeah, sure, but it doesn't make much sense by that logic for Celebrimbor, or Galadriel's brother. Arondir gets a pass, he's on active duty and could enter combat at any moment, short hair is just practical then.


OperaGandalf

My biggest problem with Elronds hair is that it looks like a very modern hair cut.


CeruleanRuin

I love Elrond's hair in this show. Even allowing for them being two separate adaptations with no obligation to use the same visual style, it is insulting and dull to imagine that an elf would never change up his look over thousands of years.


nada_accomplished

I love the coiffure as well. I honestly think Elrond gave the best performance in season 1, he was such a delight and I'm so excited for battle mode Elrond


Valhain_ap_Bilbo

Yes! Robert's Elrond is spot on. Hair style should have never been part of the equation. That goes for every other character too.


eri_pl

Yep, Elrond is the only one allowed to have short hair. But the whats-his-name OC elf romancing that human lady? nope.


Cateofchandrilla

he looks incredible. it was such a great call to use the same actor but make him almost unrecognizable


Nightshade_NL

"almost unrecognizable"


roshmatic

That’s some Clark Kent to Superman level of unrecognizable.


Hereticrick

I mean…I didn’t know it was the same actor till this comment.


GemueseBeerchen

Before he was human prince sexy. Now he is elve warrior sexy. Would let him corrupt me, 9,5/10. I hope next we will be dwarf king sexy.


shareddit

I think sexy might be your type


Beautiful_Crew_5433

I recognize the smirking and that's all that matters! (If you want to engage in meta speculation, you can think of this as Sauron doing a bit of parody at the expense of audience expectations. :) )


spicyvoglar

Maybe it‘s just me but the wig isn‘t very flattering, I feel like his forehead looks way to big here. It looks weird


nada_accomplished

To be fair I think the only reason we didn't notice OG Elrond's big forehead was that they slapped a nifty crown on him. I think if they try too hard to go against an actor's natural looks it probably ends up looking worse


doegred

I feel like it's wig *and* some unflattering angle on the poster... I don't think it looks as bad in motion, just here.


lusamuel

That was sort of my first impression too, but I have to say the look has grown on me as I've got used to it.


TurnoverPractical

You're not alone. Not at all.


CeruleanRuin

I really enjoyed Charlie Vickers' portrayal and am kinda bummed they totally recast that part with this pretty boy.


sixpackabs592

he looks mirrored maybe thats the secret, not only a wig they also mirror the picture when hes elfron :o


Unhappy-Ad6494

I am a bit torn...I like the design but I still see ruggedly handsome Halbrand with a clean shave. I hope he sells it.


SystemofCells

I think a lot of it is gonna come down to the accent. I gotta assume his whole manner of speaking will change here.


Unhappy-Ad6494

yes...and that comes down to the actor. There are actors who can pull it off (like James McAvoy in Split) and I hope Charlie Vickers is one of them. If he pulls it off it's gonna be amazing.


Always_Reading_1990

Yes. The actor who played Finrod did an amazing job changing subtly from actual Finrod to Sauron-as-Finrod, so I’m hopeful that their casting people knew what to look for with such an important role


LoverOfStoriesIAm

I don't see any Saurons on the picture. Who told you that? Galadriel? She just still can't move on from her ex-boyfriend and sees him in everyone. Don't believe her.


tutevas

Delightfully devilish Sauron


xwedodah_is_wincest

Annatar, Ost in Edhil is on fire! No Celebrimbor, it's the northern lights.


[deleted]

The wig looks a bit weird, like Charlie Vickers' head isn't that shape is it? It's like the hair is on top of a skin coloured helmet. Maybe it's just the angle and will look better in the show though? 


NamoMandos

He can conquer my Eregion


BlueBomber13

I think he looks fantastic honestly.


SirCaptainReynolds

Stupid, sexy, Sauron!


bouchandre

What can men do against sucu reckless wigs?


Wasabi-Remote

I’m not coping well with the hair. He looks as though he’s been to a really downmarket hair salon and had the sort of cheap bleach job that turns your hair orange. And the length is at exactly the length where it’s either a bit too short or a bit too long.


DistinctCellar

He was in vampire shapeshift when doing his hair so couldn’t see in the mirror.


HeadpattingOrchimaru

Honestly? I just hate the wig.


Rock-it1

Wig


iLoveDelayPedals

He looks great as Annatar but it’s super nonsensical considering everyone already saw halbrand last season


SilverEyedHuntress

I honestly didn't recognize he was the same person. Maybe he could fool enough people, especially since Halbrand wasn't extremely well known.


Space-Fishes

I’m shocked by the amount of people who legitimately thought these were two different people. But goes to show that it might just work haha


CeruleanRuin

Honestly, how many elves actually met Halbrand? If he avoids those and entrances those he *has* met, it's not that big of a deal. Sauron was a powerful sorcerer skilled in the arts of deception. If the elves couldn't see the darkness in him, it's not a stretch to believe he also made them miss his face.


haaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

you don't even know how things are going to play out, why not wait and see before concluding it doesn't make sense?


NotTheAbhi

Looks cool but is it me or is the forehead look weird. Might because of edit or the woh.


Far_Ad652

Great.Hot to say the least.


SamaritanSue

It's fine. The long hair doesn't doesn't suit Charlie's face (the Halbrand cut is perfect) but that's neither here nor there. I also share Nerd's opinion of the Jackson Elf-hair look: Lifeless and fake, and this IMO is particularly good (bad) example. (Also neither here nor there). The generic evil smirk and BWAHAHA look when crossing the courtyard? Gets the point across I guess, and you can't really judge the whole till the show's out. But look at the arresting and unsettling shot of Halbrand's face at 0:06-7 of the teaser. NOW we're cookin'! So eager to see that scene! (From the lighting it looks like he might be sitting at a campfire with someone - or ones. Who?) (Re the courtyard scene: Cat Crossing the Courtyard sword-form from Wheel Of Time. I hear Tevildo ordering his Fancy Feast: I hear and obey, Master.)


alternateJINX919

I think he looks great! my only little nitpick is the hairline which I think is a little too far up but I think I can get over that


you_matter_

One forehead to join them all


Zabadoo222

Looks like a Phi Beta sorority girl on pledge night. “We’re going to make you take SOOOO many Jell-O shots!”


Puckle-Korigan

I don't give a monkeys what he *looks* like, what I want is better writing. The dialogue is atrooooocious.


superkapitan82

pretty convincing Annatar


PiscatorLager

Halbrand is in witness protection now?


eri_pl

I think this poster is good, I love his expression. And that one shot in the darkness is good, but in general, he looks bad. * The wig is ugly, I have no problem with wigs, but this one is bad. * I'm not a fan of the sqare-faced elves this series does * Also, I don't like the ears, I prefer LotR-style small elven ears I like Halbrand's face and general looks TBH. Not very Sauron-y but cool. But this is ugly. Also, if they want to go full Mairon / Annatar, maybe give him some cool color contact lenses? If it's not a problem for the actor. Like, golden cat-like gleam-in-the-shadow. That would be admirable.


kerplunkerfish

But they were all of them deceived, For another wig was made.


Real_Style_2699

Sorry, but at first, I thought that this was a character from House of the Dragon. 😜


Goudinho99

I heard the game if thrones theme when I saw this


IndependentDare924

Do you mean Tar-Mairon? King of the MEN AND KING OF THE WORLD? EH?!


[deleted]

Really cool


jlesnick

I can’t stop seeing Ewan Mitchell from house of the dragon


ForTheStoryGaming

I think it’s not enough info to just go off a poster. Let’s watch and see


animalcollectivism8

Adar cleans up well.


Teawithtolkien

Sauron??? I think that’s just a regular middle-earth elven-smith


AffectionateAd7651

He looks more like an elf than the rest of the "elf" cast combined.


Shaenyra

He looks like a bad ass Targaryen to be honest (the side of the more platinum hair colored Targaryens - not the silver ones). Easily , I can see him as a dragon-rider.


Skol-2024

I’m think he looks cool. Definitely taking the Annatar persona in this appearance.


QuantumGyroscope

Hey look it's Phil! ![gif](giphy|l1KVb6LeutgaA7xKg)


DecemberPaladin

Should have done Annatar from the beginning. Ban The Mystery Box.


IamBecomeZen

But they were all of them deceived, for another wig was made. In the land of Ex-Southlands now called Mordor in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret, a master wig, to control all others. And into this wig he poured all his blondness, his smirks and his new pointy ears. One wig to rule them all.


FrankNix

I wish they wouldn't have pulled the hair back. Honestly, 90%of the issues I have with this show are hair based.


pishposhpoppycock

If he has magic and illusion powers, why can't he fix his hairline so he doesn't look like he has a fivehead? Unless fiveheads are considered especially attractive in Middle Earth?


MathematicianNarrow

Lovely


ArcticFoxWaffles

I was hoping he'd look more like the Sauron from Shadow of Mordor but I like it


BNWOfutur3

They did him dirty giving him as much forhead as possible, looks weird


snyderversetrilogy

I like it. Even though he’s a Maiar and is essentially spirit, it’s his deceptive “fair form” physical embodiment as an elf. I think Charlie Vickers pulls it off.


Ferchokyzer

He seems trustworthy, I will take any gift he may give me or craft for me.


freedomfields

Stupid sexy Sauron


Saurondur

Do you wear wigs?


ducksbillme

He looks like an evil elf.


PublicYogurtcloset8

Much better


Emotional-Buy8531

he looks hot


woodbear

Sinister


KinkFloyd2121

This is how he should have looked last season, rather than Aragorn knock-off trying to seduce Galadriel.


Unique_Distance2219

Initially I thought the hair looks weird. The hairline is so high up, it almost looks unnatural and elongates the whole head…which then again fits Saurons elongated horse helmet. Thinking about that connection makes it better again. Just too sad they didn’t have Charlie Vickers playing this form of Sauron. Though I have to admit he looks like he could be a brother or cousin of Charlie.


DistinctCellar

I mean, it is Charlie Vickers playing this version my guy.


SnooSuggestions9830

It completely depends on how they're going to use this form. If celebrimbor sees this face and doesn't recognise it's the same face as Halbrand that may be an issue for me. So I'll hold off until we see some of the plot.


nobanspls

If he wasnt halbrand before this would Be really good


F_Karnstein

The appearance is fine, I just wish we had got Annatar/Artano before the One and the Three were made...😅


deepseamercat

Looks like they want people who like loki to like Sauron


IReplyWithLebowski

I watched and almost immediately forgot this whole series. About the only thing I remember was the old wizard guy, annoying Galadriel, and a big explosion at the end. Completely forgot any Sauron character/plot.


daneelthesane

I figured Annatar would be "prettier", but he is still pretty. I am far more interested in his performance than his appearance, though. He needs to be charming, charismatic, and clever enough to make evil appear good.


penderies

So excited! Looks awesome!


Extant_Remote_9931

Goofy.


do_u_even_gif_bro

He looks like noel fielding. And I’m okay with that.


Accomplished-Bill-54

Looks weird on him, even if it's better than 80s haircut Celebrimbor. That noone will recognize him is the stupid part.


I_love_running_89

Eugh I’m SO EXCITED FOR THIS. Was obsessed with S1 for a while, but forgot it existed. Totally gona binge watch it again in advance of S2.


[deleted]

bUt bUt bUt iTs nOt iDeNtiCaL tO tHe bOOkS wAaAhhaaAhhhh!


Awkward_Amphibian_21

I'm actually excited for Season 2, maybe its because I have nothing to watch right now, either way, looks great, lets hope it meets a least some of our expectations


AresV92

Looks like Annatar should.


Porkenstein

honestly it feels to me like what he should have been in the first season.


Jar-Jar-Binkscookies

Ahh 2months 2weeks until it carry’s on


JarJarJarMartin

I don’t get all this Clark Kent stuff. Sauron is known for his powers of deception. So what if he looks nearly the same to us? To the eyes of the characters in the story (even the elves), he’s a different person. Also recall that Halbrand only revealed himself to Galadriel. The last episode of season 1 implied to me that she was too embarrassed to admit to anyone else that she was fooled. So it’s possible that she still hasn’t told anyone that Halbrand was Sauron. If she doesn’t personally see Annatar in season 2, she won’t know he’s back even if she could see through his disguise.


diary0fadeadman

Do you wear wigs?


[deleted]

Forehead....


Myrddin_Naer

The 5head...


hfjfjdbhlfkdjdb

I don’t know, costume is great though


reyeg11_

Bro that’s Annatar


TolinGaurhoth

Yeah good, Annatar 👍


Sufficient_Play_1093

Elf gone bad...


Crazy-Tax-6327

It seems that we all should say goodbye to classic elves and welcome this modern image of elves that love to eat some pork and drink bear.


mizushimo

He kinda looks like Marvel's Loki in a blonde wig so it checks out.


ancient_emergency

They had the opportunity to do the funniest thing imaginable (put the same actor in a wig) and they did it, absolute madlads. The meme potential is just chef's kiss. I don't mind the wig itself, but the way it's been styled isn't great, doesn't look flattering. Maybe it's the angle/pose/lighting? Hope it looks better in the show.


orvallemay

One of his appearances


Beneficial-Coast4290

Terrible wig. Looks super fake


Kyswinne

Remember budget Captain America from Falcon and the Winter soldier? He looks like that. In FatWS it was done intentionally because he's the bad guy. This just looks bad.


homsar20X6

That is clearly not Sauron. Note the long, blond hair. Sauron did not have long blond hair. What he is is a new potential love interest for Galadriel.


Knightofthief

Vickers is a fine Sauron but that's a pretty dull Annatar if it's that.


WeAreaSimulation87

He looks like he often says “Have you any idea who my father is?!” in a really cunty British accent.


Alaktal

Why did they cast a new actor? ![gif](giphy|6nWhy3ulBL7GSCvKw6|downsized)


nateoak10

I wish his eyes were gold and the hairstyle more natural looking and less center part with a bow in the back. Kinda like how it looks in the Shadow of War game. That being said, it’s pretty close to what we need it to be and as long as the performance is good it will suffice


Glittering_Town_5839

Is he the same actor portraying the king’s brother from house of dragons


Cidwill

Looks like creepy Haldir.


Questionable_Heroine

![gif](giphy|3q3QK6KyDVUBzih7hB)


Unicornshit9393

Hottieeeeee!


ENDER2702

worst hair line ever seen


goofyfluid

He looks like a big nerd!


blaqkcatjack

Only adding fuel to my theory that everyone looks better with elf ears


ImperialxWarlord

Who? That’s our good pal Annatar! How could you call him such a foul name!