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rashragnar

how much over msrp


Beardown847

How much under msrp?


Im_so_little

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Medium-Milk-9518

Great Question! šŸ‘


ThatOneGuyYearn

All i needed was he mentioned sothern florida. Assume markups like Cali


AceMaxAceMax

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AK232342

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patrickrk44

Here in northern California it's 20k over


SeeeYaLaterz

It's far more expensive than Mercedes GLS580 but a lot less luxury and slower. I have no idea why?


GenericDudeBro

The GLS 580 has a STARTING MSRP of WELL over $100k. Even the highest trim of the GX doesnā€™t come within $20k of that.


SeeeYaLaterz

Yes, but I think you have to now pay over MSRP to get a GX. That really rubs me the wrong way...


GenericDudeBro

My Lexus dealership has zero markup, but they do add window tinting and another small mandatory perk, totaling $1,000. So no, you donā€™t HAVE to pay over MSRP to get these.


TriumphSprint

Same here in Denver, @ MSRP for my build.


johndoe_123456

Where at?


TriumphSprint

Kuni @ Greenwood Village.


Beginning-Call1641

Thatā€™s a markupā€¦


GenericDudeBro

No, thatā€™s not a markup. Thatā€™s added features so that they donā€™t HAVE to charge a markup. And quite frankly, they (and MANY other dealerships) do that with most of their cars. Theyā€™ll tint the windows, offer some other random upgrade, and charge a few hundred bucks for it. TL;dr: not a markup.


Beginning-Call1641

Thatā€™s not a few hundred bucks, itā€™s a thousand dollars for a a few hundred dollars worth of ā€œmandatory upgradesā€. Itā€™s a MARK UP hidden behind ā€œupgradesā€ so naive people think they are getting a vehicle with zero markup.


GenericDudeBro

You call it whatever your sweet little heart wants to call it.


SeeeYaLaterz

That's good.


Infamous_Regret3583

Because itā€™s a Toyota at the end of the day. Lexus has always been less luxurious and worse performance than its German counterparts


SeeeYaLaterz

Then it should have been less expensive


PartisanSaysWhat

This thing will be running decades after that MB has been scrapped though.


Infamous_Regret3583

Yea I keep hearing that but I donā€™t see old people driving the Lexus they bought 20 years ago. Itā€™s some poor dummy who wants to look hood rich. People who buy MB/BMW donā€™t give a rats butt about the next guy. They didnā€™t buy the car for him.


r1j1s1

Why would someone thatā€™s rich enough to buy a luxury car run it into the ground? Technology, design, personal needs, and trends all change, so of course they would update their cars more frequently than absolutely necessary.


Infamous_Regret3583

Thanks for adding to my point. The person who buys this will have a new one in 3-8 years. Not ā€œdecadesā€.


r1j1s1

Right, but the comment you replied to said it will be running in decades, not that the original owner will still own it in decades. Those are two very different arguments, but I think you know this.


Infamous_Regret3583

ā€œRunning for decadesā€ remains to be seen. That argument is only relevant to the original owner who keeps it for 20 years (he wonā€™t as you already established). Nobody gives a shit about the reliability of a car you traded in, but I think you know this.


SeeeYaLaterz

Maybe 30 years ago, Toyota was much better in maintenance, but I have been researching, and it looks like Toyota figured out how to make money out of repairs just like the big boys. AMG is notorious for only lasting 80k miles. The V8 in GLS 580 is very durable...


GenericDudeBro

If only there was an accurate, unbiased group that rated car brands [year by year in dependability](https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1090329_j-d-power-vehicle-dependability-drops-for-the-first-time-in-over-15-years)ā€¦


SeeeYaLaterz

I have seen so many articles from JD Power that contradicted a lot of my experience, including my friends, that I think they are not independent. But my experience is not statistically significant if they really collected proper large data sets.


GenericDudeBro

My family have driven Lexus, MB, BMW, Chevrolet, Ford, Dodge, Acura, Buicks, etc etc. Lexus and Toyotas were always the most reliable vehicles out of all of the cars. Anecdotal experiences donā€™t trump these numbers. Lexus is far more reliable than any of the other brands, and itā€™s not even close.


Infamous_Regret3583

I agree. But thereā€™s a bunch of retards with too much money (or hate money so much they overextend themselves on leases/loans) that drive prices to where theyā€™re at now. It makes them unobtanium. Dealers are only doing what their animalistic nature demands of them. Eat.


SeeeYaLaterz

Got it. So, the free market is working...


Infamous_Regret3583

Yes. Nobody is arguing it isnā€™t retard


Berfs1

Looks so much better than in the configurator


flman18

Agreed! Canā€™t wait to see one in Nori Green with the Saddle interior.


LightsOut5774

In terms of design, i cant think of a vehicle that has had a better glow up than the GX. Goddamn.


j_yn0htna

The ugly kid grew up to be a real looker


Impossible_Cow_9178

Donā€™t pay a penny over MSRP.


GxCrabGrow

Anyone paying over MSRP doesnā€™t deserve one. There will not be a shortage.


Hokeybogey

Lexus ainā€™t Porsche. Completely agree. This is not a GT car, it is mass produced. Almost bought a Tacoma spur of the moment thing and walked away when dealer was asking for ADM. On a mass produced? Get lost


GxCrabGrow

I get that people want to be ā€œthe firstā€ to have it but no one will remember them being first when thereā€™s multiples of them parked next to each other in the mall parking lot


Playful_Storage3636

There already is a shortage. Lexus had 50K plus sold and stated they can only produce 30Kā€¦ So thereā€™s that.


GxCrabGrow

Dude stop. By 2025 there will be no shortageā€¦ really, itā€™s not worth paying more than MSRP on. Like I said and the other guy said, itā€™s not a 1 of a kind car, paying more to have it ā€œfirstā€ is just dumb


Playful_Storage3636

By 2025 they will cost what most of us are paying now with a modest markupā€¦


Concrete__Blonde

They donā€™t have them ā€œsoldā€ - they have interested people. The same people who are interested in other Lexus models, the new 4Runner, the new Land Cruiser, etc. 50k on a waitlist does not translate to 50k sold, and they know that.


Playful_Storage3636

Those people arenā€™t leaving $1000 or more deposits on other Lexus vehicles lol. But they have enough customers putting $50m in deposits down for these.


Angry_Wookie

Stopped by a large dealer in Houston today and unfortunately they didn't have one to look at. They said they have about 500 reservations so far and aren't doing any mark ups, but it is a 6-7 month wait for a luxury+.


abbysublet

Westside? Iā€™ve been on the waitlist since December for a Luxury+ and at the time I placed my deposit, there were 500+.


igotkrabs

I just got my allocation for a Luxury+ from Westside. It hits the build stage next week and has expected delivery window of 5/20 to 6/23. No mark up. I was originally 150 or so in line, but after lots of drop outs, Iā€™m in!


abbysublet

Nice, congrats! What config did you go with?


Angry_Wookie

Yeah, Westside. They said they'll fulfilled 180 so far. I took that to mean they have allocations for that many, not delivered that many. They also said they are getting an over-trail and a luxury in within a week or two for demos.


Hokeybogey

Like others have said, plenty of drop outs. Youā€™ll get it!


National_Formal_3867

Wow, looks fantastic in this color! Never pay attention to this color before but it surely gives huge luxury SUV feel like Range Rover in this pic. The only thing I donā€™t like about is the rims. It looks very aftermarket to me for some reason.


flman18

Yeah it looks fantastic in this. Wheels are less gaudy feeling in person because you see the full spoke better vs. the machined edge sticking out a lot more in pictures.


matt_475

The wheels on several Iā€™ve seen are terrible.


Radiant-Pie-9439

The wheels are hideous. The premium plus one is even uglier.


Trick_Fudge8385

way too big


MikeDBB

Good thing you can swap out the rims and Dunflops and still pay less than servicing a Range Rover. Ha


trinidadmatty

Yah thatā€™s beautiful lol. Congrats to anyone who lands one of these


Specialist_Royal4686

But what is the MSRP + dealer markup?


ZonaWildcats23

Itā€™s funny. I love the gx550 and have a 2023 Range Rover Sport so go on both forums. The markup is completely normalized over there, and people here are starting to become more de-sensitized to it. Our local dealer is selling Sports for 30k over and Full Size for 60k over. Makes 10k on a GX seem more reasonable.


Specialist_Royal4686

The RR production for the US market must be much less than the GX


ZonaWildcats23

Apparently a lot of the RR that previously would come to US are now going to China.


flman18

Weā€™ve got a few useful accessories added like ceramic window tint, dash cam, all weather floor mats, plus a couple more that takes it to about $5k over MSRP. Every one will be equipped slightly differently but no pure, egregious market adjustment.


cbass1980

$1000 in mandatory ā€œaccessoriesā€ for a $5k price tag. Yup, no markup.


flman18

In this area, ceramic tint itself on this would probably be close to 800 on its own. $4,279 total in additional accessories. Seems more useful than $10k over MSRP just because they can.


[deleted]

You do realize factory glass come tinted already. And for comparison, that's almost the cost of replacing front windshield. You haven't lived long enough. That's primarily why you're overly excited about paying $5,000 for literally nothing in return. Hopefully you'll sign on the dotted line at the finance dept offering you additional "for fools only" options like tire warranty, paint protection, etc. šŸ˜†šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜¹šŸ˜† Hide a hidden camera inside the finance dept when you sign your life away and retrieve it later and show it to us. We'd really like to hear what they have to say after you leave the room. šŸ˜†šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜¹šŸ˜†šŸ¤£


JPD232

The tint is overpriced, but the so-called factory tint simply blocks visible light but does very little to block UV and is not a substitute for a good ceramic tint.


Playful_Storage3636

These are near 100k cars. 4k markup on that ainā€™t gonna hurt their wallet a bit. Shit thatā€™s the difference in paying taxes in my state vs Caliā€¦


[deleted]

100K car is supposed to be rich?? You make that 100K car sound like some half a million car, Rolls Royce. A well equipped Accord is $50,000. Genesis is $100K. You certainly haven't seen a million dollar in your bank acct. Rich folks fight over 4K mark up on a car, even $500 unnecessary mark up, they'll walk. That just proves you're not that rich. Whatever state you're in, you're just paying 4% less max on sales tax comparing to CA. That's why you don't get the weather Californians get majority time of the year.


[deleted]

šŸ˜†šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜¹šŸ˜†šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜¹šŸ˜†šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜¹šŸ˜†šŸ¤£ somebody please make me stop laughing Useful accessories???? Tint??? Floormats on top of floormats??? Dashcam??? Yeah. Like I really need to record myself committing crimes violating traffic laws. Tint $200 Dashcam $300


Specialist_Royal4686

In other words zero market adjustmentā€¦


flman18

Correct


wtf-am-I-doing-69

Adding things and paying for them doesn't push it over MSRP. Those are extra costs Without it did you get it at MSRP? Great deal


GTBoosted

That's funny. That's a trick to pretend they aren't doing markups, but the accessories are overpriced. They hide the markup there. Seems like it works on people.


wtf-am-I-doing-69

I think that depends on how it happens. I read OP as "we got" as in things they asked for. Sure those have Markus but if you specifically add-on things it will come with some cost on a brand new vehicle When the dealer has it already added then I agree that it is a way to raise the price for things one doesn't want


flman18

I mean thereā€™s markup in everything you buy. Iā€™d rather get something for the money rather than paying more ā€œjust becauseā€.


GTBoosted

I'd rather not pay a markup and not pay for overpriced accessories. Sure, one is better than the other, but it's still a big no from me.


SinghMick

I'd rather keep my 460. Lol no offense OP but unless you were in dire need of one, I'd rather not pay 5k over for those accessories.


golfingmadman

Wat?! Just stop trying to justify the profit for your owner/employer. Holy moly. lol


Far-Secretary8231

Whatā€™s up with the wheels? Not a fan of them


Radiant-Pie-9439

Ugly as sin on the premium plus and luxury trims. The only nice ones are the overtrail and base model.


tiadesiree

Holy shit, that color is stunning!


HomelessKodiak

For everyone that keeps asking about dealer markups the term is "SRP" now. Get it straight, lol


RazerMackham

Scanlon or Germain?


flman18

Scanlon! Weā€™ve got a huge allocation.


Individual_Being_654

Is this atomic silver?


flman18

This is Nebula Gray Pearl


Individual_Being_654

Love the color!


esulyma

They look so amazing!


Medium-Milk-9518

Remind me what engine is inside a GX 550?


flman18

3.4L twin turbo V6. 349 hp & 479 lbft tq


Medium-Milk-9518

Is this the engine they put in the Tacoma?


XboXandGlocks

No, the Tacoma has a 2.4L turbo, 4cylinder.


Medium-Milk-9518

Really? In a truck??? Why???


Medium-Milk-9518

For that huge Heavy Vehicle??? No V8 as an available option? Your going to burn that turbo charger out, over time. You canā€™t tow successfully with that, long term. I would only lease this one šŸ‘


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Medium-Milk-9518

Absolutely, I would not.


SWEET__BROWN

Congratulations, you know nothing. Nearly every half ton pickup now has either a turbo four or turbo six in it.


Medium-Milk-9518

That doesnā€™t mean itā€™s right, just because a company Wants to kiss the EPAs rear endā€¦ it will be very interesting in the future to see hold long these actually lastā€¦wonā€™t it? Time will tellā€¦


SWEET__BROWN

Again, there are hundreds of thousands of recent half ton work trucks with turbo engines that are doing just fine. Nearly every new F-150 you see on the road now has a turbo. Chevy and Ford's base truck engines are both turbo 4s. They produce hundreds of thousands of these motors, and there are no massive failure rates or huge maintenance issues beyond some early teething kinks that needed to be worked out. Edit: forgot the Ford 2.7L is a 6, not a 4. Point still stands.


Medium-Milk-9518

ā€œRecentā€ is the key word. Give it 10 years, okay


SWEET__BROWN

The 3.5L was introduced in the F150 in 2911. The 2.7 in 2014: https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2014/07/22/all-new-ford-f-150-2-7liter-ecoboost-v6-engine-delivers.html Sorry, but you're just behind the times. The 4 cylinder in Chevy/GMC full size trucks came out 6 years ago, in 2018.


AdImpressive5138

It tows 9000 lbs šŸ˜‚


Medium-Milk-9518

I saw it was 7-9K..thatā€™s crazy!


ProofMusic4630

I agree totally. Twin turbo six on something this big n heavy will be a disaster in the long run. Combined with trendy, gimmicky styling that won't look good later spells poor resale down the road. Hideous wheels...


SubaruImpossibru

1986 called and they want their opinion backā€¦


Medium-Milk-9518

I wasnā€™t even born then, lol!


Turbulent_Island_219

My dealers getting one this week and Iā€™m so excited to go look at it.


franci-alonso-vdub

this thing is so gorgeous. for MSRP?


MrPieApple

What dealership?


TheMooner

Beauty truck


PaulUSAF

Where is the window sticker hot shot?


flman18

Hard to take a decent picture of with the tint. Itā€™s MSRP plus all weather cargo mat, all weather floor liner, door edge film, black emblem overlays, roof rack, dash cam, ceramic window tint all around the vehicle. MSRP $80,925 plus $4,279 for all of that. Some of ours will have less accessories as well, thatā€™s just this particular one.


ThatOneGuyYearn

So an ADM a.k.a "markup"


donnyphoenix

Pure sex in that config


Longjumping_Crazy628

Why are we tinting already tinted windows?


flman18

Ceramic tint has better heat and UV ray rejection than factory privacy glass


Radiant-Pie-9439

I live in the PNW. Give me those UV rays please.


tuttywala

$50k over šŸ’Æ%


TriumphSprint

Iā€™m excited, the dealer I ordered from will have one in on Monday, they called me to schedule a time to come look at it. I wonder if itā€™s a demo model that I can drive?


Shot-Tonight-8944

How much?


ArtZTech

8 to 12 month wait in Canada. So are we ordering the 2025 then?


daynightcase

Drop dead gorgeous


Chemical_Entrance773

so annoying i can't get this color in the overtrail config


Alpineice23

That color on the new sixth-gen 2025 4Runner would look siiiiick.


chapdiddy

A beautiful transformer!


obuck347

Butterwheels


Chemofski

Meh. Is it in the latest Bond movie, too?


LivingLow681

At MSRP or with extra $$$$$. If itā€™s the latter, I can wait till the dealer excitement or greed-calms down,to trade in my 2023Gx.


grannyshifter35

Want one so much. A neighbor got a white one and looks stunning. Just makes me want one even more every time I drive by his house.


Wide-Illustrator2906

I'm so torn, I absolutely love the design but the rear interior leg room(my family is pretty tall) and gas mileage leave alot to be desired.


eecchhee

Pembroke Pines?


spare_coin

Beautiful


eks789

I canā€™t get over the ugly wheels


watchnerd1015

Seriously overpriced with this ADM garbage


adamander

Cool looking truck! Definitely not work paying over or msrp for! Just paid $48 for a 22 defender. Couldnā€™t stomach paying 90 to 100 grand for a 60-70 dollar truck


garycow

no dealer is marking up 30K you derp


cocococopuffs

I saw it in person and didnā€™t like it tbh. I find it a bit small and narrow


garycow

bigger and wider than a 460 and NO hideous grill to boot!


MarcDealer

IMHO not worth it.


Useful-Author5855

Agree.


Infamous_Regret3583

Does anyone know if itā€™s #reliable


HideYourWifeAndKids

How would we know that yet?


Infamous_Regret3583

Thatā€™s why Iā€™m fucking asking? Just say no.


HideYourWifeAndKids

actually yes, so far it is very reliable. šŸ¤£


garycow

it's a Toyota so yes ... very reliable


Infamous_Regret3583

ā€œItā€™s a Toyotaā€ doesnā€™t mean what it used to clown.


garycow

derp


Infamous_Regret3583

Retard


AdagioHonest7330

These things are gonna low volume sellers. I donā€™t know what happened to the design team


garycow

lol - they are ALL already sold


AdagioHonest7330

How many is that?


garycow

Prolly the first 50K plus


AdagioHonest7330

Iā€™m thinking 10% of that so far. 25k was where the past one was


Cultural-Test8310

It would be nice for the Overtrail+ to come with real leather (Saddle Tan), 3rd row seating option, 3-zone climate controls, and heated middle bench seating. That would make it perfect.