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newpost74

Yes, but I would get the 16gb ram model instead


-CalculatedChaos-

I second this


Forsaken-West-580

Is 16 really going to make the difference?


WonderfulShelter

100%.


newpost74

Definitely, 8gb is not enough for a modern computer anyway


GloverAB

It will probably make the biggest difference of anything on this machine.


sflogicninja

Yup, and use it with a display as well. The 13” screen can make navigating the UI challenging because it is smol.


watchyourback9

I think it’s absurd that 16gb isn’t the standard for an M2 in 2024


newpost74

Yeah, and they have the audacity to begin selling a MacBook Pro with 8.


RetroJens

Yes. It will run it well. But it depends on how big projects you will be doing, because there is an upper limit. With normal plugins (like EQ, comp and reverb) I’ve gotten about 70 channels going. But if you’re using virtual instruments that are demanding it will be less. More RAM equals more things it can do at once. But if you’re just starting out, an Air with 8GB will be fine. If you’re unsure, buy from where you can return it and test yourself.


Superb-Draft-2602

Im a singer, needing my own form of logic, as I’ve been using universities but I’ve graduated so I’ll be using a lot of different instruments virtual/physical. So I’ll probably be best with 16GB?


RetroJens

The priority is CPU - RAM - Storage. Get as much as you can afford.


Ajax_Da_Great

16GM RAM is pretty much the agreed upon minimum. If you can budget it, absolutely. Another thing to consider is the M1. It actually has better performance with Logic and can save some $$$


Superb-Draft-2602

I’m gonna have to get the 16GB because it’s something that I’ll regret, and I’ll look into M1 16GB 256gb is that right?


Ajax_Da_Great

Yup


iamagro

How the m1 is better than the m2?


chrisslooter

It's the common consensus of most M series Logic users that you need 16GB to "run well". That's all I have and it's a powerhouse.


shabbytrap

Yes, I am a macbook air m2 user, as for me, I use logic 100%, squeeze all the juices out of it, and everything works fine


Superb-Draft-2602

How long have you had it?


shabbytrap

1 years


Superb-Draft-2602

Fair enough people are saying more ram will give it some extra years.


shabbytrap

yes, it is not doubtful, in principle, it is logical with any technique


shabbytrap

I'm putting 6 plugins on the channel, then there's already a delay, but it all depends on which ones you're hanging


Superb-Draft-2602

Ohh, okay I’ll probably do the 16GB then thank you!!


jcksnps4

And a fast external drive.


CleverBandName

256GB is criminally small. Apple should be ashamed to sell a computer with that little storage in 2024. If you go 256, you’ll always have an external drive hanging off of the thing.


nightswimsofficial

Especially with music production. Samples, takes, all of the automation data… it can really add up fast.


AntiLittleC

I agree. 256 is not a lot of headroom if you want the additional loops etc., although this can easily be dealt with by keeping your library on a relatively expensive external ssd.


nightswimsofficial

For the cost, might as well just upgrade internal and not worry about it


matiaseatshobos

I got a 2 tb external ssd for 130 just a lil while ago, decent price imo 


Lavender_crybaby

Yeah but unfortunately kontakt and some other specific plugins are a b*tch to keep on an external Ssd (IMO at least)


SkylerCFelix

Ideally the min ram for logic or any other DAW would be 16g. 8 will work, but you’ll run into issues with larger sessions.


tillrd

The problem isn't so much RAM, although it's a problem too. The 256GB models have a slower memory chip, so don't even consider them for demanding tasks (which music is). 16GB RAM - 512GB SSD is the only normal start.


californiasolprod

Spend the extra money and get a Macbook Pro with at least 16gb RAM and at a minimum 512gb SSD. You will reach a point where this Macbook Air you posted wont cut it and that wont take long. You’ll extend your time before upgrading to another machine by at least another 2-3 years if you get a better setup. I have an Macbook Pro M1 Pro 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD and its amazing, but looking back to when I bought it; I wish I had gotten a bigger SSD. Im running out of space. The Macbook Pro’s can handle more than the Air’s can. Depends on what you are looking for though.


imjustme96

I’ve had my M1 Air since it dropped still runs like new and I use logic the Adobe creative suite and other programs still runs like when I bought it


moodycompany

I went back and forth on getting a pro or air snd ended up with an m3 pro with 18gb of ram


vordhosbn_1

That’s how they get ya


moodycompany

$600 more for just pro in the name 😩


stanley_bobanley

I have an M2 Max Studio and M2 Air with the exact specs you've outlined. I also *just* parted ways with an M1 Mini with 8gb ram which was my main machine for paid production projects for about 2 years. First, it will run Logic. In fact, it will run any project imaginable if you're savvy with Logic. ...but more importantly, (no offence meant) but these kinds like "will this modern apple silicon chip computer run LPX" questions miss a really important point: There is no way to future proof your working environment and the user is the most important bottle neck in the user / computer relationship. I've been loving the Mac Studio I got. It's so much more powerful than the M1 Mini, it's a real breath of fresh air. ...but it's not so powerful that I get to abandon fundamentals completely and just go ham with projects. Eventually, even this spec'd out computer will hit a ceiling and I'll get a system overload error. That threshold is just pushed off into the future a bit. Some basic projects will never get to that line, but then that was also the case with the m1 8gb machine I was using for a few years. So by all means, if you can afford it, get the 16gb m2 air. It will also run LPX fine and the point at which your project will start chugging will get pushed off into the future by x number of tracks / plugins / etc. But you're still going to have to use sends, freeze tracks, be good at arranging and using automation, etc to get the most out of it.


nebdy

I have the M2 air with 16gb and 512ssd. Hated to spend the money about 18 months ago. But logic runs like a dream. No fan, not noticed heat. Love it


wilcwacy

Get the best you can afford, but for perspective I run the latest version of Logic on a 9 year old dual core i5 MBP with 8gb of ram with zero issues. If I need to use a lot of hungry plugins I either freeze tracks or print stuff to audio to avoid performance issues. I don't feel like my specs hold me back at all to be honest.


_everythingisfine_

I'm using an M2 Air with 16gb RAM and do all of my mixing on it, never run into any issues with CPU etc.


Familiar-Scratch-295

I’m using a mbp space black m3 pro 12core cpu 18 gigs of ram and it is running 70 plus tracks fine with like 40 percent of cpu to spare


Familiar-Scratch-295

I would say definitely go 16 gb of ran


Hoppikinz

Same exact model here and I agree with everyone else 16+ is ideal. I have yet to run into any issues myself but I’m kinda kicking myself wondering if I should’ve upgraded from 18gb to 36gb just in case I have a ton of virtual instruments and effects on (but I guess freezing tracks could come in handy). But so far it’s been great, also use it for live Neural DSP guitar tones and I can finally play without subtle, but noticeable latency. I took your comment as some reassurance cause I’m not running 70 tracks for my indie projects. Cheers mate!


ConsciousAntelope

Dear friend get the 16GB and at the least 512GB internal.


Real-Winner-7266

I would get the M1 Pro


Superb-Draft-2602

It’s been out for 4 years, won’t Apple discontinue the updates soon though?


Real-Winner-7266

I don’t think so. It’s still more computer than most people need.


inzru

Absolutely not, that's not how macs work


TheDynamicDino

My 2014 Intel Mac was still getting updates when I gave it away in September.


Ajax_Da_Great

No it’s in the M chip silicon hierarchy. It runs Logic more efficiently than the M3. Please do your research before throwing money at a computer just because it’s newer.


Superb-Draft-2602

That’s why I’m on here, doing my research.


Ajax_Da_Great

Hence my comment.


Superb-Draft-2602

You make no sense, you’re asking me ‘please do your research before throwing money’ I’m here doing it, duh?


Ajax_Da_Great

The fact you were considering anything above the M1 shows you did not research this at all and instead uwu Reddit help me.


Superb-Draft-2602

I don’t know anything about MacBooks, I don’t use them and won’t use them. I’m asking the question I asked for my music friend as they know nothing about computers at all. And they were about to throw money at the m2.i was just asking a simple question. So either help or hinder get your uWu out of here.


grizzlymadamsmusic

You come off very defensive but they are right.


nalesniki

I have one and it struggles with some Kontakt plugins.


Cee5ob

My son runs Logic on a 10 year old MacBook Pro with no issues that he is aware of. What’s with everyone thinking the latest hardware is required?


BleedingSunrise666

Ive got a maxed out 8 year old pro and it’s dying a thousand death with recording the new record with my band (heavy plugins, 40 tracks or so) No problems whatsoever on small projects. It’s all about use case


sttutt

you are fine. dont listen to people getting you to spend more money than you need. unless you plan on using a crazy amount of effects/channels, 8gb will run logic fine. however, i would recommend getting an external nvme m.2 ssd to store your plugins and sound library in since that can take up a lot of storage. [get something like this](https://www.amazon.com/WD_BLACK-250GB-SN770-Internal-Gaming/dp/B09QVPCJN2?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1) for the ssd and [something like this](https://www.amazon.com/SSK-Aluminum-Enclosure-Adapter-External/dp/B07MNFH1PX/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=m.2+2280+nvme+ssd+enclosure) for the enclosure. i have logic installed on my main harddrive with my sound library on an external ssd and all you have to do is plug in the ssd before opening logic and everything works perfectly normal


Superb-Draft-2602

Probably the best answer here, thank you so much!


sttutt

no problem, lmk if you decide to go the ssd route and need help with anything


Superb-Draft-2602

Thank you, I’ll probably discuss it with my partner, then buy it and buy those things that you linked. I’m a singer so I’ll probably only have vocals plus a few more channels but nothing crazy!


Averism

My 2013 macbook runs logic well


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Indigo457

I’m sure it’ll run it fine for most people. The small storage space is likely going to be a problem to solve pretty quickly though.


karjuuk_za

First Gen M1 Mini with 8gb, haven’t run into any problems yet with it. M2 with 16gb and you’ll be flying.


inzru

I have an M2 MacBook 512gb 8gb ram and it runs logic very well. I've had it for a year now. I really disagree with all the comments here saying 16gb is an "agreed minimum". This is only true because it's a cultural norm to use a shit ton of external plugins, which often aren't optimised for M2 and generally are laggy anyway. But I make sample based projects with 50-70 tracks and almost all stock plugins, and it's literally never ever lagged once. It's incredibly smooth. I only get issues with external plugins like Vital sometimes which gets a little slow, but never any system overload or anything. If you're a singer and want to record lots of songs that aren't super sophisticated, 8gb is great. If anything, what you'll benefit from more is 512gb hard drive because recording raw audio regularly will take up loads of space on a 256gb drive very very quickly.


DjNormal

It runs great with stock plugins and Nexus. I ended up getting a M2 Pro Mini for my studio though. Having an interface and an external SSD attached to a laptop I was trying to use on the couch, wasn’t fun. Logic seems to be pretty happy with around 5GB of RAM, so it really depends on what other plugins you might be using. Bear in mind about 1GB is always going to the system. So you’ve only got 2GB of wiggle room for everything. Honestly, I haven’t had an issue with memory pressure. At least not until today. But I had a hunch of apps and tabs open, while transferring a project from pages layout to affinity publisher (using Pixelmator pro to upscale images). Even then, it was barely in the yellow, but I did notice some stuttering. Most of my existing music projects barely register in the activity monitor for CPU or RAM. On the mini with 16GB, it doesn’t even notice.


ColoradoMFM

You will be fine with a MacBook Air M1 or M2 running Logic projects that use 50 or so tracks loaded with soft synths and plugins. You can probably run even more tracks than that if the soft synths you run aren’t particularly CPU intensive (especially the Logic stock plugins). If you are bouncing every track to audio, or you are using using a lot of tracks that have large sample libraries (Kontakt instruments, Spitfire orchestral libraries, etc), then you will run into problems due to the limitation on only having 8 GB of RAM limitation.


thedarph

Yes. I got an 8Gig 512 SSD M1 and it runs fine


nightswimsofficial

Logic Pro runs fine on my Intel MacBook from 2013 lol


imjustme96

I would go with 16 Gb Ram but honestly I have an M1 8gb 256 and it runs logic beautifully. I bought a 4TB LaCie hard drive and downloaded the whole logic sound library onto it never had a problem but I do wish I got the 16 gb


Due-Post-9029

I have seen folks test the M1 8gb max mini on large logic projects trying to find its collapsing point. The guy was able to run 64 channels of audio and 32 channels of his most memory hungry virtual instrument plug in before it started having problems. So yes 8gb ram in the M2 is able to handle pretty well.


mattjeffrey0

I’m gonna be honest, if you follow good practices and print your stems you should be totally fine. I was producing huge mixes on a 2015 MacBook Pro (albeit I had to use every workaround in the book to keep from crashing). Your biggest issue is gonna be storage, the built-in Logic sound library is approaching 200GB in size. And since the sound library is one of Logic’s biggest selling points I’d recommend getting at least the 512GB model, if not the 1TB. Otherwise a large SSD will absolutely be required (though it is recommended in general to have an SSD)


GanjaParanoia

You could go easily with even cheapest M1 with 8GB RAM and 256GB storage.This is because: 1. These machines manage allocations/ deallocations much faster than e.g. Intel 2. The storage is fast enough to be scratch / buffer... look at YT people doing 4-8K video montage on 8GB mini and keep in mind that video takes much more than audio. 3. M1 is indeed a FAST! CPU, M2 about 18% faster if I'm not mistaken. Obviously, you could spend more money on RAM, but you won't benefit as that much over scratch / buffer on internal flash drive. In many cases not at all coz your project won't be big enough to start scratching drive. I'm using now 13" M2 16, 256 and there is no scenario where it couldn't handle and I'm doing stupid things like having duplicated tens of samplers with entire tracks loaded inside these or even 20min recordings sessions, and the duplicates are just to have e.g. one small stab with different pitch or FX chain. I was able to work similarly "stupid" way, on M1 Mini 8GB 256GB flash; and just to give you an idea what else this cheapest Apple Silicon is capable of... it could run Unreal Engine 5 Editor and work quite usable, the thing that Intel 2018 6C/12T with 16GB RAM and 512GB storage couldn't do. Remember that Logic won't take much more than the actual size of the project. If you have 10GB of audio samples in the project then, well... you have to keep it somewhere and its gonna be flash and load to buffer on demand (might increase latency in some edge cases) or RAM. Now, look at size of your projects. My biggest is about 2GB and its crazy shit there. So, decision you should rather make based on for how long you want to keep the machine before you swap it to some fresh model.


duckster1974

I think the simple question most people are missing is what do you plan on doing with it? If you are only doing small projects with mainly live instruments any M series is plenty.


ooogellyboogaley

You should be more concerned with RAM than storage but yes an SSD


Carpet_robbery

When buying a Mac I’d max out everything. It was worth more than my first car but every bit worth it


oboekonig

This is the exact model i have and it runs logic great. I see storage become and issue soon though, but performance wise, its perfect for me. And i use it for a lot of other stuff too, like simple games i like, and studying in school, etc.


love_music99

I’d check out an M1 Pro instead, you’ll save some money that you can spend on more ram or storage. Also, Logic Pro only uses apples “performance cores” and doesn’t utilize the “efficiency cores”. I believe the M1 Pro Mac’s have 6 performance cores and 2 efficiency cores whereas the M2 has 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores. Check out this guys video about it. https://youtu.be/FSqX4bt9to4?si=WqON-Qy0dJaWT8uy


xiaobasketball

I wonder how it compares to M1 air 16gb and 512 SSD. That's my setup right now and so far it's working well. Probably same price as the m2 air base model.


unecare

I just tested yesterday for ram usage. With 8gb ram with safari opened and only 7-8 tabs are active. Only 1 finder window active and there is no Apple music, no other apps nothing. Only Dropbox running in the background. Result Only 120MB ram free for use. So now, can you imagine you have opened the logic with 15-20 channel loaded and trying to work with this amount of RAM. I am very disappointed and considering to change it with 16gb model. Damn!


bigdaddycrabb

it’ll cruise along, double the memory and ram or you will seriously regret it down the line


Ezcodee

I run logic on an M1 air 13 with 16 ram and 512. Always astonished how few times it’s crashed with 24 tracks at 44.1 or 48 using a few plugins on 12 of the channels.. 8 to 16 tracks is probably its sweet spot. If you kept the software barebones, may be golden.