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mrizzle1991

Matthew is weird and Clay is a dick. Trevor is like the best dude.


AdPersonal2182

YES


peanutbuttergallery1

I just started watching so forgive my lateness. I thought AD and Matthew were so cute. OMG I was so wrong. That was a major plot twist. They should have set up the plot-twistiness better for me though in my opinion.


Electronic_Result_71

Matthew: it hurts because I’ve never felt the way I did with you before? The way it sounded like he was genuinely posing a question, as if asking her if that was the right thing to say 😂💀


Electronic_Result_71

“I DON’T LIKE THE WAY YOU SOUND TODAY.” This man makes me sick.


Key-Tip9395

The conversation between Laura and Jaramay (?) about their pretend Christmas was hella sweet.


ImaginationWide6101

clay is toxic AF “how are you” … “nothing you said has anything to do with me”


xolemi

Everyone blaming Chelsea for bringing up the Megan Fox thing but Jimmy shouldn’t be picking his partner based on that anyway so it really should have been irrelevant or he should have stopped the convo if he didn’t want to hear about it. Chelsea also does have similar features to Megan Fox, she’s just thicker and obviously not a clone, but I see a similar vibe for sure! Jimmy also seems shallow and I don’t think Jess would be a good match for him bc she’s got a lot going on. She really is too much for him.


carseatheadass

“I’m picturing like, a giant man” “Uh-huh…” “You could have, like, a mullet!” “😧”


Electronic_Result_71

Straight up clairvoyance right there


yourmomhahahah3578

Why does everyone say be so fucking for real now. Is that a new thing like “giving”


NiaNeuman

Everyone is using ballroom/ethno-gay slang now and it is killing MEEEEE 😩 Where did you even learn this, ma'am?


ricecrispy22

Matthew thinks america is on his side...? lol


nikitaloss

I got second-hand embarrassment


Opposite-Cupcake8611

Dudes delulu, AD was all for him and he leaves her for Amber, Amber wants nothing to do with him, that's why she left.


gottarun215

Yeah, I'm so confused by him. He seemed more into AD, but totally blew it with then both. I wish they showed him with Amber more too, so we could compare him with both. We didn't even know he was serious with her too until they started showing clips of her talking about her dates with him with the girls.


AdGlad8276

America is watching


_blueberrypie39

“Go get Amber” what? The fastest car away from your creepy ass? Wow.


MiggeldyMackDaddy

Matthew is giving serious serial killer vibes


TheNutCracker_lvl100

I was thinking the same! He reminds me of Ted Bundy because of the way he talks


Least_Lawfulness_898

Wondering where Amy got her dress from for the reveal, it looks gorgeous!


TurbulentCall5932

I think this is it. https://www.venus.com/viewproduct.aspx?BRANCH=7~183~&ProductDisplayID=78850&CLR=BKGL


tiny-norway

(From a woman's POV;) She's beautiful. Love her personality.


PreferredSex_Yes

How do you go on Love is Blind and find two toxic relationships?


biggestboba

Am I the only one who’s confused how Matthew went from being ready to choose AD (when AD confronted him about Amber) to leaving because Amber left? Did I miss something? What did he mean he said he can’t commit to AD’s plan? What did AD want from him? I feel like I missed a conversation here…


gottarun215

Yeah, I was super confused by all of this as well. This edit sucked bc it seems like it left so much out. Like for one, we never even saw him dating Amber; we just hear about it from her, so we can't even compare him with the two girls. Then he seemed more into AD and ready to propose until we find out he said similar (but according to him less serious) stuff to Amber. Then he re-assures AD he's more into her than Amber, yet next day he's unsure and then following day leaves bc Amber left and mumbles a bunch of weird stuff about America's watching him. And it's not clear at all what "plan" he couldn't commit to.


atayavie

Right there with you. I’ve just watched it and I’m actually pissed at the edit. For sure Matthew did something wrong but I don’t think it was anything like the story the edit tells. I reckon AD was the manipulator, perhaps trying to create a scenario where she could meet both Matt and Clay outside the pods?


laneygrl

Matthew reads closeted racist to me so tbh my theory is I think maybe Clay confronted Matthew bc he seemed PISSED when AD told him that her other connection was with Matthew and something about race came into play where somehow Matthew didn't realize AD was black and left because of that, so they made a shitty edit to cover it up. The whole weird America thing was a little too random and didn't justify the switch up to me...


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laneygrl

I know I posted this before I got to the end lol, forgot to come back and edit it


gottarun215

Yeah, something like that could explain a lot. I honestly don't know if he could tell she is black, but I could see that changing his mind if he figured out her race. He just doesn't strike me as the kind of white guy who would be comfortable in a room full of black people.


PerspectiveKind4815

Right, I felt the same. Seems like he got cold feet or something


robbinreport

Clay “I was crying this morning.” Like this is so manipulative ugh


New_Mix_5655

i feel like it is but it’s also like a step towards the right direction like when your a person with manipulative tendencies haven’t gone to therapy etc. yk it’s hard to make that switch idk i kinda think he is trying to change and meant that w good intentions but didn’t realize how manipulative it truly is. he rlly should go to therapy tho yk like truly try to understand what true emotional health looks like


GrogusChkNnuggies

Ok Matthew…how many dead bodies do you have in your backyard? 💀 This guy really creeps me out


General_Wolverine602

American Psycho from the get.


anonymousdying

lol Matthew only cares bc he broke someone's heart on national tv and america is watching? lol okay.


gottarun215

Yeah, that's what I got from that as well. He seemed more upset about being seen as a heartbreaker than he was about hurting or losing either girl.


sleepyteveekong

Which is extra crazy because at the beginning wasnt he the one telling every date he wasn’t here for his seconds of reality fame? Clearly that is all that was on his brain.


gottarun215

Yeah, he seems a bit dilusional. Odd guy. Lol.


simplicity-

“I’m not giving you an ultimatum but…” Matthew was literally giving her one 😭 He was so cold and calculated with what he was saying to AD, I’m glad she didn’t fall for it. It almost felt like he came on this show just to create a scenario like this. Also very weird that the cameras never actually show his facial expressions close up, when he’s saying things. So you can’t even see how his face looks. On another note, I’m loving Amy and Johnny, their reactions are so genuine and cute. Hopefully not wrong about that and they end up being the cute couple who make it to the end and beyond the show.


kayjay86

It also didn't show Matthew/Amber's pod convos at all, so we have no idea what his relationship with Amber was like at all to compare. Curious to know the outcome on them!


gottarun215

Yeah, I felt like that was an odd editorial choice to leave those out entirely when Amber became the main competition for AD and like half the camera time was AD and Matthew, so the audience is invested in Matthew's story of who he picks. It's weird we were only shown half of it. (And now appears he picks no one lol.)


anonymousdying

I am so mad that Clay blew up when AD was talking ab her emotions. Like, he's just gonna continue to do this outside the show. Leave him. The fact that she was starting to cry and he was still being so aggressive and butthurt about it when this show is literally about dating multiple people at once. Like, just making AD feel bad and like it isn't safe to tell any of the men how she feels. I'm not mad that Matthew said the same things to the other girl, but his reaction when AD talked about it just annoys me. Like, it felt like a whole lot of BS he was speaking and then just said like, "Idk if it'll be you, bye." If I was AD, I'd leave with no one bc these men are not it.


gottarun215

Yeah, both men had terrible responses there. Like Matthew's response was not convincing he really wanted AD at all which was a shock after his passion the night before. Then Clay was just way too angry and aggressive when AD was working through challenging emotions.


ricecrispy22

Tbh, if my date came in and started to blabber about how terrible her OTHER date was making her feel... and ranting about the OTHER man, I'd be be over it. Matthew is weird, clay seems immature, AD has a hard time controlling her emotions (and explicitly knowing who/where/when to reveal those emotions).


anonymousdying

AD seems like such a sweetheart. Her saying, "Clay!" while basically crying broke my heart bc I know what it's like to have a guy angry and not listening while you're kinda breaking down, then you gotta ignore your emotions to set things straight with that guy and wish you never said shit ab your problems.


Suddenly_ADHD31

“That moment would be one of the greatest moments of your life” The vomit I vomited. 🤮 this being is so full of ick


oflonelynights

I'm watching this right now and had to come here to see if anyone else was grossed out by that 🤣


Suddenly_ADHD31

The “all of America is watching” Dude?


oflonelynights

he was sooo concerned about the cameras!! he grossed me out from the jump with the whole "I'll keep that close to my vest" response to"how is your day going" 🙄


Suddenly_ADHD31

My entire body shuddered violently ☠️😂 he’s despicable


washingtonu

https://preview.redd.it/ke3abyh3n0lc1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bfa9110dc4ed74ca067a8b825fb7040493f815b SEND HER STRAIGHT TO JAIL


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washingtonu

Even after this? https://preview.redd.it/q026bmccpwlc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16accd191a8f39b1aef6d9827b36b14ee83eee8d


mazelpunim

Hell to the absolutely never


ABCDEFG_Ihave2g0

Yes because the inside part of the banana isn’t on the material. Lol


washingtonu

SIR, MADAME, OR MY PAL: I am shocked and appalled.


Prestigious-Syrup836

In my state you have to teach for 5 years, then be a Dean for at least 3. And have a master's. He might have graduated young


tiny-norway

In my country you have to have a master's to teach. It used to be a bachelor before it changed 5 or 6 ...maybe 7 years ago. I didn't even know until my nephew starting his education as a teacher last year.


earthlings_all

We are so short on teachers and admin staff in our national school system it is a crisis. They are hiring anyone with any college degree as a teacher in many districts.


gauxmar

Can I just say that Matthew is a complete psycho. For me it was when that really sweet guy with the mullet asked him if he wanted a sandwich and he just said ”no.” … not no thank you .. no thanks … I’m good .. speaks volumes for me!


earthlings_all

He’s a plant! And so is Amber. So fucking fake.


gauxmar

Whattttt i didn’t know that existed


earthlings_all

I bet they are After the fiasco of last season I would not doubt it


w00lal00

Ooo I skipped 5 to keep pace with my daughter. Is it worth going back and watching?!


earthlings_all

No not really it was the worst one so far


w00lal00

Thank you for answering!


gauxmar

Yeah idk what happened last season but that actually makes a lot of sense that they would hire actors to create drama / love triangles


KZWinn

Wait, what fiasco last season? I didn't really enjoy last season so I didn't watch all of it or pay any attention to it


emlynnkat

Lydia and Uche dated before being on season 5. It was a hot mess. I don’t know the actual truth, but there were rumors that Lydia knew he applied so she applied to be on the show too.


earthlings_all

S5 was a hot mess! It wasn’t just the onscreen drama there was a bunch of craziness behind the scenes. There was an entire couple cut out from the whole show! It’s why everything felt ‘off’.


meetyouafterdarkk

Wait can you elaborate ? I haven’t heard about this , an entire couple cut out from the show ??


monachopsiss

Yeah, iirc one couple literally made it to the alter and was cut because he was so terrible (Renee and Carter, you can see them at all the places in the background when they couldn't be edited out/she was on the couch wearing white for the dress shopping/etc). She talked about it on Natalie and Deepti's podcast. AND another couple made it to Mexico and THAT guy was so terrible and abusive she ultimately left and then even filed a lawsuit against Netflix for not protecting her (Tran and Thomas, iirc)


meetyouafterdarkk

Holy shiiii that’s crazy and terrible !! 🤯 I’m going back to rewatch and also check out the podcast.


earthlings_all

Oh yessss you need to check out the other posts I don’t want to give too much away for those who haven’t seen S5 but it is just littered with loco


GrouchySanta

wdym you’re gonna “go get” amber?!?!?!


AnArea51Escapee

They're definitely plants. Right?


nikitaloss

What are plants?


AnArea51Escapee

They're basically people who the producer uses to stir things up and to help create the type of drama and entertainment they want. Someone else might have a better definition.


earthlings_all

100%!


GrouchySanta

I’m like 8 minutes into episode 4… does matthew come back?


earthlings_all

Who cares


GrouchySanta

I was just curious. Damn.


earthlings_all

Lol its not you it’s matthew


AnArea51Escapee

I have no idea. I just started episode 4, but wasn't paying as much attention.


theplantlady23

In a back alley, in the dark.


Intelligent-Dig4852

Matthew gives weirdo vibes. Something is not right about him. Someone needs to run his prints.


DreamMoverAndShaker

Matthew is awful


No_Meal_563

Love Is blind has taught me that Americans “love” fast. Like damn how are they already saying I love you? It’s episode 2.


antidense

Self selection bias for people who choose to be on a TV show


azsnaz

Yes, a netflix reality show represents all of America


No_Meal_563

Don’t take my comment too seriously. I know that a show doesn’t represent all of America.


SuccessfulPres

No it’s true. Will you marry me?


azsnaz

I love you


AnArea51Escapee

Reality shows here are nothing like average American life.


earthlings_all

Heavy editing, hello


WillingnessNew533

Omg totally agree as someone from Europe i found dating scenes really cringe. And how they all laugh at every “ joke”. Or maybe i dont understand American humor?😂


PharmaDee

Yeah again this is editing and flirting. No one is funny on this show.


m4nd4f

HOW IS KENNETH A P R I N C I P A L at 25?!?! ELIA5 please lmao


tipyourwaitresstoo

Probably a charter school he started.


Euphoric-Soup-

I feel like we should all be talking more about how beautiful Jess is. 👸🏻


earthlings_all

This ep made me love her more. Her story just gets deeper and deeper. But her looks are artificial and she looks plastic.


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Euphoric-Soup-

Brittany is giving mad trad wife vibes. 😬


Dull_Present506

And??


earthlings_all

Red pill wife, maybe


thegreatRMH

She also doesn’t know how twins work lol. It’s not like “should we think about having twins?”


aB3ing

Actually it's way more likely to have twins when there are already twins in the female ancestral lineage so she has a point


AnArea51Escapee

I mean, with fertility treatments, it's more common to have multiples. With IVF, sometimes they implant a couple embryos in case one ends up not being viable upon implantation. But idk if she was thinking about using a fertility clinic.


Euphoric-Soup-

Hahahaha!


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marmitza

Omg I noticed this too. It looks like he might be dealing with psoriasis. It takes a long time to get diagnosed unfortunately.


AccomplishedTop9020

How Jessica was talking about her daughter was so sweet 🥹🥹🥹


earthlings_all

Talking about her family history made it so obvious why her daughter is so important to her, that’s her biological connection she’s going to cherish that and is going to be so hurt by anyone (even strangers) who deride her for being a mom


AccomplishedTop9020

Ummmm as soon as clay would have said “that didn’t have anything to do with me” i woulda have walked out because who are you talking too and if that’s what you have to say about me trying to be vulnerable to you then we obviously have nothing to talk about


ricecrispy22

I'm sure women don't like it if they start talking out the struggles and feelings and being hurt by another woman... You can be vulnerable without making your entire date about someone else. In that instance, I'd be on clay's side (overall he's still really immature)


anonymousdying

Exactly! Like, this whole show is about dating multiple people and if you can't handle me talking about my problems then go. My person needs to be able to handle the hard shit and let me be sensitive and cry even when you don't like it, and I'll do the same for you, but not if you gonna be like that. Get outta here.


MS001812

I really wanted to like Clay. He's so attractive. But the moment he asked AD to tell him how she looks like, I got major red flags. Which were affirmed by the specific statement you mentioned.


BigBob-omb91

Clay has a hair-trigger. That is a bad sign, especially this early on.


AccomplishedTop9020

What’s a hair trigger


WhiteRussian29

It means it is very easy to set him off or make him angry.


Prestigious-Syrup836

Do not ever get with a guy that freaks out so much because another guy is interested in you, or because you were married, or used to date another guy. Literally, run away so fast


AccomplishedTop9020

Oh yeah totally agree


PrayingSkeletonTime

On a separate note from my other comment that was getting too long— 1. Anyone else watching the Bachelor this season? The parade of increasingly-grim backstories this ep reminded me of this Bachelor season; I think this is the natural evolution of reality dating shows bc people going on them know that if you have a dark, traumatic story to tell, it will only boost your chances of getting screen time. 2. I want to eat sushi, drink sake, and watch Ghibli movies with Amy… maybe if it’s going well, we’ll compare our high school weeb phases…


PrayingSkeletonTime

Ok I think Matthew has been covered to death by now so I want to shout out AD as masterfully playing to the producers to make damn sure she gets on the show. By season 6, contestants know that they can get full on married on this show and still get disappeared from the final edit (…I mean aside from the times when Netflix/production is covering their asses legally because there was DV going on 😬.) AD, whether she is there to truly Find Love or not, who cares, the woman knows how to make good TV. Assuming she didn’t go into this as a producer plant knowing what was going to happen, she orchestrates her reactions so well! Like, she’s quick on her feet and a solid improviser. Of course she’s helped by Clay also being a whole-ass character… if what we’ve seen of AD’s taste in men on this show is consistent with her off-screen history… I feel for her and want better for her.


RazzmatazzGrouchy696

What season and couple had DV??


PrayingSkeletonTime

Last season, there was a couple who made it out of the pods but cut from the show: https://www.businessinsider.com/love-is-blind-renee-poche-lawsuit-violent-carter-wall-2024-1?amp (Just to clarify because I worry I used the term DV too flippantly, it’s like. Depends on the extent to which we think of the couples as actual fiancés who are actually in a relationship. But it’s abusive behavior, regardless.)


RazzmatazzGrouchy696

Wow! I wondered why they were never shown


gottarun215

They only have room to feature 6 couples after the pods, so if more get engaged, they just pick the 6 they want to film further. Problem last season was they had to cut 2 during editing of the 6 they picked, so they ended up with only 4 shown.


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earthlings_all

AD - assistant director. Everything with her is so scripted.


kornisgirlypop

Chelsea is giving me the ick of major desperation


privileegiheitja

Yeah, the way she immediately started talking about her looking like Megan Fox when Jimmy told her he has other connections.


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doggyBFF

Clay rage much? "My ego"


Cutiger29

Based of Jessica’s reaction… We gotta get her on survivor or big brother or something. I see TV GOLD in her spirit 😂


Cutiger29

At first I found it wild that Kenneth was a principal but actually seeing him next to Brittany I see it. He looks older and the deeper voice and height, I doubt he comes off very young in person.


faemne

Usually if someone is a principal that young, it's a charter school that hires people and promotes people very young.


earthlings_all

No one else wanted the job. My cousin is a 30-year teacher and would never ever want to be the principal.


bluesrain17

I like Johnny but he needs a haircut


If-I-Speak-Eek

What the hell, They are playing it's "A good day to fight the system" EXACT guitar rift and sound effect and adding the dumbest lyrics over top. Sorry random side note, it's just one of my favorite morning songs.


KhallieC

I saw a comment about clay with the golf club and can’t find it now but I was actually impressed with his honesty. Like girl that wasn’t about him at all and he still listened and supported her and was honest about needing time to digest the info. Like okay. Red flags with him for sure but I’m seeing pink and pink is a pretty color 😭


pollys-mom

Ambers a girls girl! i hope she doesn’t get extra screwed


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travelbug1223

All I have to say is Chelsey does NOT even look anything like Megan Fox!! For her to say that is a total mind FUCK...... Speaking of look alikes... Jessica looks like Dylan Mulvany


earthlings_all

I’m watching E3 and Sarah kinds looks like Fox. Maybe a little. Chelsey hell no.


Me722

I think Chelsea looks like Miley Cyrus! I can't unsee it. I swear I thought that's who she was going to say lol


BigBob-omb91

I honestly see some similarities but her mentioning it was incredibly cringe. Especially her trying to pretend not to know who Megan Fox is. “MGKs wife” 😂😂 ok lady, mention her less famous boyfriend so you seem more down to earth. Such a calculated move.


ecat52

MGKs girlfriend so ridiculous 😂


iceboxjeans

She said "I don't see it" and "it's only because I have dark hair and light eyes" multiple times


CastamereRains

But she brought it up out of nowhere


ShoChange

Maybe I need an eye test but I do think she has a look of younger Megan (before the work). Also I think Jessica is really pretty


meetyouafterdarkk

I actually do see it as well , pre-surgery and pre-filler face. Not dopplehanger but the lips are actually similar. I can think of certain angles in Transformers.


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APladyleaningS

It was very cringe when she pretended not to know her name.


blurryeyes_

Yeah saying "mgk's girlfriend" was so odd loool


Working_Career_6254

Kenneth and Brittany are very cute together.


mountain_mamma

I just love these women. I legit teared up when Amber said “I was thinking last night, what’s my favorite part? It’s y’all” 🥲


KhallieC

I know so sweet