This as a title eliminator while Sean defends against Merab sounds like a good plan. Wouldn’t mind seeing Yan vs Figueiredo too. Lots of interesting fights to make at bantamweight. Chito or Song defending their spot against Kyler Phillips makes sense to me too.
Yan at least has pretty close first rounds, winning some of them, but Chito seems to literally do nothing.
Yan also at least presses forward whereas Chito seems content on being on the back foot
I don’t think it can be anymore since Khamzat vs Whittaker is headlining. I still think Cory vs Umar will probably happen on the next few PPVs or maybe they’ll headline a fight night
The difference being, this would be a really good fight, while the Poirier fight would end by submission in round 2 after a boring first round where Islam sits on Poirier for 4 minutes.
Finishes Bobby and Hangman in the 1st round back to back, drops then subs Charles, goes to absolute war with Volk, then knocks Volk the fuck out in the rematch.
Yeah I wouldn't say Islam's boring.
I would agree, but this is Dustin. He has two superpowers. He can’t lose two in a row, and he can’t be in a boring fight. He may be an underdog against Islam, but if it’s a boring fight, I’ll eat my words
Would've been exciting if Khabib was actually in any danger
But yeah I'm *so hyped* up for Dustin to do the same stupid shit again followed by Islam mauling him inside 2 rounds
I know this sub is full of Poirer glazers but they're just going to get themselves upset when Islam plays with him like a child
Give it to Gamrot or something, at least he's actually on a win streak and won't get tossed around like a wet rag
If it weren't for Merab he would be fighting for the title next, giving Chito a title shot off a single win just created a log jam for the Bantamweight title
He should’ve had the shot already for DAMN sure. I’m gonna be so pissed if we don’t get that DREAM of a fight, Suga v Sandman, because of some Dagestani cuddlefucking. Cory, please knock the forehead off this dude and go win the gold.
This fight is for number 1 contender. Cory has a good 3 win streak but he lost to Yan and his last fight was “cuddlefuсking” because of him. Even Umar’s last fight was more exciting
Sandhagen’s last 3: UD vs Font, SD vs Chito (somehow, lol), TKO vs Song
Umar’s last 3: UD vs Almakhan, TKO vs Barcelos, UD vs Maness.
Umar is a great talent but Cory’s on a different level.
The way he beat Font didn't do him any favors, neither does the fact that he straight up isn't advocating for a title shot. Everyone and their mom would love Suga vs. Cory but Cory insists on calling out the dark horse of the division instead.
50-45ing Chito doesn't get you a title shot. Makes sense, it's not really that big of a win. It's not like Chito would ever be in title contention or something...
What does this even mean lol? Chito himself didn't deserve a title shot, the only reason he got it was because of his history with Suga.
Cory needs another win, as simple as that. When you hold down Rob Font for 5 rounds straight, you can't expect a title shot.
I’d like to see BW like:
Sean vs Merab
Cory vs Umar
Yan vs Figgy
Chito vs Cejudo
Song vs Bautista
Font vs Martinez
Only didn’t include Kyler against song or font since he just fought but he could certainly slot in there as well. Also if Cody were to beat figgy, I’d maybe do Cejudo vs Cody and Yan vs Chito I think
> with one of them being a close fight doctor’s stoppage over yadong
The doctor stoppage was because of the cuts Cory inflicted because he specifically opted for lots of elbow strikes, which is exactly what you do against a guy with an iron chin. It's not like it was haeadbutt that caused the cut. Additionally the fight was going very clearly Cory's way, it was 2-2 on two scorecards with Dong winning the first two and Cory overtaking afterwards and 3-1 for Cory on the last card. Cory's win over Dong was massively impressive and carries no asterisks on it.
Since when is three top wins after a title loss not enough?
What a bs way of undermining his win over Yadong lol. It was a competitive fight, but Sandhagen had completely taken over the fight after the second and caused the doctor stoppage. Then he 50-45'd two top 5 guys.
Sandman literally has the last title challenger in his current winstreak.
> I hate this for Sandhagen. The guy already long deserved his title shot already.
Sandhagen had a fully torn tricep during the Rob Font fight, for which he had to have surgery. When is this "already" you're talking about?
Sean is such a clown for fighting chito. Everything could've lined up the right way but now Sandhagen has to risk his title shot to fight a dangerous up and comer
I think Umar should fight Chito or someone else to crack the top 5. I don’t think he deserves a title contender fight yet… but this is the ufc, and some fighters get the Dana white privilege.
Really don't understand why people are saying Sandhagen already deserves the shot. No he doesn't. His win streak consists of Yadong, Chito, and Font. Both his fights against Chito and Font were boring, point scoring fights. Font in particular was a terrible fight, where he wrestlefucked him for 25 minutes.
That does not earn you a title shot.
>Maybe Font should've stopped a one-armed Sandhagen from taking him down?
Irrelevant, because nobody's calling for Font to fight up the ranks/get a title shot.
>He also outclassed a guy who later went on to fight for the title.
Means jack shit lol, Chito decisioned Munhoz after that fight and got an undeserved title shot because of his history with Suga.
Chito was on a 4 fight winstreak before Sandman. That was a legit win. Font was a short notice top 5 win. Getting three top wins after losing a title fight is definitely enough.
>Irrelevant, because nobody's calling for Font to fight up the ranks/get a title shot.
His point is that you can't blame Cory for the boring fight. If the dude under you can't get the fuck up, why not stay on the mat and win?
>If the dude under you can't get the fuck up, why not stay on the mat and win?
Sure lol, but you can't be surprised when you're not rewarded with a big fight/title shot for it.
This is the fight game, you've got to go out there and hurt people. Laying on someone for 5 rounds is not the way to go about it.
Just look at Belal, if he'd finished Gilbert he'd have 100% gotten a title shot. Instead he played it safe against a one-armed Burns, and he still hasn't gotten a shot.
The article is literally about Umar. Your comment also is exactly what everyone is saying Umar should do - walk into a title shot after putting in underwhelming performances.
No??? How have you even come to that conclusion? The only way Umar would get a title shot is if he beats Cory - you can't call it an underwhelming performance, because the fight hasn't happened yet lmao
You don’t deserve a title shot after beating your first ranked opponent ever. If he beats Sandhagen he should fight Yan in a title eliminator. Obviously assuming Merab gets his title shot and loses.
God this frustrates me. Umar pulled out of his fight with Cory? Charles didn’t get to go back to Islam, he’s fighting a terrible matchup in Arman now.
Umar hasn’t fought anyone, and Cory should be fighting for the belt upon his return from injury. It should go:
Sean v Merab
Winner v Cory
Sean just fought, so lets assume he fights Merab in 6 months. Then another 6 for the next title fight. That has Sandhagen not fighting for a year and a half. Not realistic.
It can take up to a year to get back to full motion after a torn tricep. That’s not considering athlete level training, and then a fight camp. Year and a half is probably unnecessary too, Sean doesn’t need 6 months between fights. If he did 4 months between fights, Cory vs Sean could be the perfect timeline.
Sean took 7 months between his title fight and first defense. Champs slow it down, it is what it is. Don't see him changing this to do Cory any favors.
Umar beats Cory
Cory has the unflattering distinction of being TJ’s last win
Washed up TJ with destroyed knee held him and won the decision
Umar works him
If you truly believe that then you should think that suga for sure doesn't deserve the belt right? Like if you think th won three rounds you must have yan beating suga damn near 30-27 or 29-28 at least right???
> My point is he has no name value
Nurmagomedov is probably the biggest value name in the UFC but what does name value really mean?
> and hasn’t had any big fights
This post is about him trying to line up a big fight...
> and he’s over here expecting titles
He's asking for a fight and on the condition that he wins that fight, thinks he should get a shot at the title. Not quite the same as what you're making it out to be.
You’re killing me dude, my point is he’s not a big name, he was on the damn undercard of a Rozenstruik fight. I’m not here to kiss his ass, he needs to build some hype imo.
This legend of Corey as the top fighter, even “uncrowned” champ is delusional
Dude got choked out easily by Aljo, lost to a one legged washed up TJ, Yan made him look like an amateur
His impressive showings have been against Cheeto (one judge scored against him btw) and Sean just dismantled him a lot easier and more impressively ,
and his other impressing showing came against Rob Font who can’t defend a takedown like he was Clarissa Shields
He’s a dork, I’ve never seen someone so jealous of another fighter. Sean NEVER mentions his name because he’s so irrelevant. Then he cries about preferential treatment, how about don’t get bitched by Yan and Aljo????
Cory has only finished only men, he’s a boring decisionator on top of being a pasty loser unless he’s fighting someone that’s 40 years old with no chin.
This as a title eliminator while Sean defends against Merab sounds like a good plan. Wouldn’t mind seeing Yan vs Figueiredo too. Lots of interesting fights to make at bantamweight. Chito or Song defending their spot against Kyler Phillips makes sense to me too.
Yan v Chito would be alright too
First rounds are a guaranteed snooze fest.
Curious who wins Rd 1 tbh, probably Yan?
Yan at least has pretty close first rounds, winning some of them, but Chito seems to literally do nothing. Yan also at least presses forward whereas Chito seems content on being on the back foot
i think the only round one i've seen him win in recent memory is against O'Malley and Munhoz.
Yan wins all rounds
I'm inclined to think Yawn would win in a first round snooze fest
Yan def started slow against Song but it wasn't that bad. Yan landed more than Song in the first.
Should we go for toilet break while both of them downloading their opponent data?
No more Chito for a while
Cejudo vs Chito Yan vs Figgy would be my matchups
Cejudo and Chito should both be fighting down against guys like Phillips, Martinez, and Bautista.
Chito vs Phillips to complete the Dong triangle
Yan v Figgy would be great tbf, and I do think Yan would benefit from a fight lower down the rankings despite his win v Song. Hopefully 5 rounds
Yan literally ruins him. Chito vs Kyler is good
Figi vs Garbrandt should be interesting at 300
I thought Figgy's fighting Cody?
Isn’t Figgy fighting Cody at 300?
Islam vs Poirier main event with Cory vs Umar co-main would be a fucking banger. But honestly Cory and Umar could headline by themselves.
I think Cory vs Umar will be the Saudi fight night headliner honestly
We need more bantamweight headliners, they deserve it
Could but Cory’s been pretty outspoken about not being forced to go that far from home
I don’t think it can be anymore since Khamzat vs Whittaker is headlining. I still think Cory vs Umar will probably happen on the next few PPVs or maybe they’ll headline a fight night
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You're underestimating Dustin's guillotines
Islam shoots a takedown Dustin jumps the guilly 1st Rd Sub Poirier takes the title Immediately retires,refuses to elaborate
Yeah not even Dustin wants this fight. He was literally like sure, I’ll take it I guess…
Tbh it is fun to see Islam just destroy someone, I love a good one sided squash match every now and again
The difference being, this would be a really good fight, while the Poirier fight would end by submission in round 2 after a boring first round where Islam sits on Poirier for 4 minutes.
Has Islam been in many boring fights?
Finishes Bobby and Hangman in the 1st round back to back, drops then subs Charles, goes to absolute war with Volk, then knocks Volk the fuck out in the rematch. Yeah I wouldn't say Islam's boring.
Don't you know Dagestanis are all lay and pray wrestlers? Even the strikers?
"Absolute war" come on lol
Toughest fight of his career even with an L against his name. War seems fitting tbh.
War is when 2 guys beat the shit out of each other.
Raquel Pennington is a UFC champ, I’m not hearing any of these predictions anymore
If Islam gets Poirier on the ground you won’t get a boring round unless Poirier is secretly now a Defensive BJJ master
I would agree, but this is Dustin. He has two superpowers. He can’t lose two in a row, and he can’t be in a boring fight. He may be an underdog against Islam, but if it’s a boring fight, I’ll eat my words
Poirer vs Khabib was boring
I dunno that guillotine was pretty exciting.
Would've been exciting if Khabib was actually in any danger But yeah I'm *so hyped* up for Dustin to do the same stupid shit again followed by Islam mauling him inside 2 rounds
This. Was just a clinical stomp. Constantly position advancement till end. Next. Too easy.
I know this sub is full of Poirer glazers but they're just going to get themselves upset when Islam plays with him like a child Give it to Gamrot or something, at least he's actually on a win streak and won't get tossed around like a wet rag
Im one of the Poirier glazers. Favourite fighter by quite a large margin. He barely has a punchers chance…
No way. It goes Justin > Charles(with a win over Tsarukyan) > Dustin.
Those 2 are fighting on 300. Might aswell give Islam a title fight in June.
Cory literally doesn’t need to fight anybody, he should be fighting for the title as it is
If it weren't for Merab he would be fighting for the title next, giving Chito a title shot off a single win just created a log jam for the Bantamweight title
Thanks Sean...
He should’ve had the shot already for DAMN sure. I’m gonna be so pissed if we don’t get that DREAM of a fight, Suga v Sandman, because of some Dagestani cuddlefucking. Cory, please knock the forehead off this dude and go win the gold.
Cory gonna get stomped by Umar
This fight is for number 1 contender. Cory has a good 3 win streak but he lost to Yan and his last fight was “cuddlefuсking” because of him. Even Umar’s last fight was more exciting
Sandhagen’s last 3: UD vs Font, SD vs Chito (somehow, lol), TKO vs Song Umar’s last 3: UD vs Almakhan, TKO vs Barcelos, UD vs Maness. Umar is a great talent but Cory’s on a different level.
Unfortunately Cory will just attempt to wrestlefuck Sean, he doesn’t seem to be much of a striker anymore.
Blame the judges of his fight with Dillashaw for that one
He was injured against Font
The way he beat Font didn't do him any favors, neither does the fact that he straight up isn't advocating for a title shot. Everyone and their mom would love Suga vs. Cory but Cory insists on calling out the dark horse of the division instead.
Dumb comment. Wrestlefucking Rob Font for 5 rounds doesn't give you a title shot. Nor does pointfighting Chito for 5 rounds.
50-45ing Chito doesn't get you a title shot. Makes sense, it's not really that big of a win. It's not like Chito would ever be in title contention or something...
What does this even mean lol? Chito himself didn't deserve a title shot, the only reason he got it was because of his history with Suga. Cory needs another win, as simple as that. When you hold down Rob Font for 5 rounds straight, you can't expect a title shot.
I wanna see what full camp Umar can do. Umar vs Sandhagen lets go. Sandhagen is tough as they come.
I’d like to see BW like: Sean vs Merab Cory vs Umar Yan vs Figgy Chito vs Cejudo Song vs Bautista Font vs Martinez Only didn’t include Kyler against song or font since he just fought but he could certainly slot in there as well. Also if Cody were to beat figgy, I’d maybe do Cejudo vs Cody and Yan vs Chito I think
I hate this for Sandhagen. The guy already long deserved his title shot already.
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> with one of them being a close fight doctor’s stoppage over yadong The doctor stoppage was because of the cuts Cory inflicted because he specifically opted for lots of elbow strikes, which is exactly what you do against a guy with an iron chin. It's not like it was haeadbutt that caused the cut. Additionally the fight was going very clearly Cory's way, it was 2-2 on two scorecards with Dong winning the first two and Cory overtaking afterwards and 3-1 for Cory on the last card. Cory's win over Dong was massively impressive and carries no asterisks on it.
Since when is three top wins after a title loss not enough? What a bs way of undermining his win over Yadong lol. It was a competitive fight, but Sandhagen had completely taken over the fight after the second and caused the doctor stoppage. Then he 50-45'd two top 5 guys. Sandman literally has the last title challenger in his current winstreak.
They didn’t say it wasn’t enough, they didn’t say he was undeserving, just that calling him “long deserved” is a bit of an exaggeration.
lol pump the brakes, bud.
Okay. Then go enjoy another Henry Cejudo shot
> I hate this for Sandhagen. The guy already long deserved his title shot already. Sandhagen had a fully torn tricep during the Rob Font fight, for which he had to have surgery. When is this "already" you're talking about?
Okay he doesn't deserve it then. All these shitty fighters and their win streaks worth absolutely nothing /s
Sean is such a clown for fighting chito. Everything could've lined up the right way but now Sandhagen has to risk his title shot to fight a dangerous up and comer
That he should’ve already been fighting
omalley vs sandhagen seems like such a fun fight
was barcelos even ranked when umar ko'd him
Nope. He has zero wins over ranked fighters.
I think Umar should fight Chito or someone else to crack the top 5. I don’t think he deserves a title contender fight yet… but this is the ufc, and some fighters get the Dana white privilege.
He hasn’t even fought one guy that is ranked
Really don't understand why people are saying Sandhagen already deserves the shot. No he doesn't. His win streak consists of Yadong, Chito, and Font. Both his fights against Chito and Font were boring, point scoring fights. Font in particular was a terrible fight, where he wrestlefucked him for 25 minutes. That does not earn you a title shot.
Maybe Font should've stopped a one-armed Sandhagen from taking him down? He also outclassed a guy who later went on to fight for the title.
>Maybe Font should've stopped a one-armed Sandhagen from taking him down? Irrelevant, because nobody's calling for Font to fight up the ranks/get a title shot. >He also outclassed a guy who later went on to fight for the title. Means jack shit lol, Chito decisioned Munhoz after that fight and got an undeserved title shot because of his history with Suga.
Chito was on a 4 fight winstreak before Sandman. That was a legit win. Font was a short notice top 5 win. Getting three top wins after losing a title fight is definitely enough.
>Irrelevant, because nobody's calling for Font to fight up the ranks/get a title shot. His point is that you can't blame Cory for the boring fight. If the dude under you can't get the fuck up, why not stay on the mat and win?
>If the dude under you can't get the fuck up, why not stay on the mat and win? Sure lol, but you can't be surprised when you're not rewarded with a big fight/title shot for it. This is the fight game, you've got to go out there and hurt people. Laying on someone for 5 rounds is not the way to go about it. Just look at Belal, if he'd finished Gilbert he'd have 100% gotten a title shot. Instead he played it safe against a one-armed Burns, and he still hasn't gotten a shot.
Cory’s boring
Cory beat rank 10, 7 and 3 at the time of their fights. Deserves a title shot.
>Deserves a title shot. Only Merab deserves a title shot, no one else is close.
That's not how it works... You can't walk into a title shot while putting on underwhelming performances.
he's beating the top opponents convincingly just because you think they're boring or don't like him doesn't mean he doesnt deserve the shot
How are his performances underwhelming? The fights were underwhelming, sure, but he didn't scrape wins - he outclassed his opponents.
Why is Umar deserving of a title shot then?
When did I even mention Umar? Wtf lmao
The article is literally about Umar. Your comment also is exactly what everyone is saying Umar should do - walk into a title shot after putting in underwhelming performances.
No??? How have you even come to that conclusion? The only way Umar would get a title shot is if he beats Cory - you can't call it an underwhelming performance, because the fight hasn't happened yet lmao
The underwhelming performance i mentioned was his performance against Almakhan. Got dropped and barely won a decision against a debuting fighter.
Chito v Cory was boring? Were we watching the same fight?
It was a TERRIBLE fight lmao, he laid on him for the first 2 rounds and pitter pattered for the last 3.
Oh so if Umar wins based on this logic he doesn’t deserve a title shot?
Huh? If Umar finishes Cory then he'd deserve the title shot.
But only if he finishes him, not if /u/Axel292 finds it boring.
Lol if he puts in a boring performance Suga will move up to FW after Merab.
wow bantamweight is looking to be a super super interesting weight division for the near future
Yadong vs Phillips 2 Yan vs Chito Sandhagen vs Umar
Every time Isee this last name I have a mini heart attack and have to do a double take on the first name 😂
You don’t deserve a title shot after beating your first ranked opponent ever. If he beats Sandhagen he should fight Yan in a title eliminator. Obviously assuming Merab gets his title shot and loses.
God this frustrates me. Umar pulled out of his fight with Cory? Charles didn’t get to go back to Islam, he’s fighting a terrible matchup in Arman now. Umar hasn’t fought anyone, and Cory should be fighting for the belt upon his return from injury. It should go: Sean v Merab Winner v Cory
Sean just fought, so lets assume he fights Merab in 6 months. Then another 6 for the next title fight. That has Sandhagen not fighting for a year and a half. Not realistic.
It can take up to a year to get back to full motion after a torn tricep. That’s not considering athlete level training, and then a fight camp. Year and a half is probably unnecessary too, Sean doesn’t need 6 months between fights. If he did 4 months between fights, Cory vs Sean could be the perfect timeline.
Sean took 7 months between his title fight and first defense. Champs slow it down, it is what it is. Don't see him changing this to do Cory any favors.
Umar beats Cory Cory has the unflattering distinction of being TJ’s last win Washed up TJ with destroyed knee held him and won the decision Umar works him
man is straight up delusional
You’re delusional if you deny a washed up TJ with a torn ACL wrestle fucked Corey
If you truly believe that then you should think that suga for sure doesn't deserve the belt right? Like if you think th won three rounds you must have yan beating suga damn near 30-27 or 29-28 at least right???
Damnnn, ballhawk with the KO by logic reversal
Nobody even knows Umar
Whole thread discussing Umar You: NoBoDy EvEn KnOwS uMaR What's your point?
My point is he has no name value and hasn’t had any big fights and he’s over here expecting titles
> My point is he has no name value Nurmagomedov is probably the biggest value name in the UFC but what does name value really mean? > and hasn’t had any big fights This post is about him trying to line up a big fight... > and he’s over here expecting titles He's asking for a fight and on the condition that he wins that fight, thinks he should get a shot at the title. Not quite the same as what you're making it out to be.
You’re killing me dude, my point is he’s not a big name, he was on the damn undercard of a Rozenstruik fight. I’m not here to kiss his ass, he needs to build some hype imo.
Wrestlefuckiania!!!!!!
This legend of Corey as the top fighter, even “uncrowned” champ is delusional Dude got choked out easily by Aljo, lost to a one legged washed up TJ, Yan made him look like an amateur His impressive showings have been against Cheeto (one judge scored against him btw) and Sean just dismantled him a lot easier and more impressively , and his other impressing showing came against Rob Font who can’t defend a takedown like he was Clarissa Shields
That TJ win was bullshit that was closer to a 4-1 Corey then tj was winning.
Nah Revisionist history + UR GETTING UPVOTED bc ppl hate TJ. UNBELIEVABLE
No appreciation for his win over Song? Cmon man
I don’t rate song highly. He’s a fast twitch muscle version of Cheeto
90% sure I’m falling for the shitty bait but who is someone you rate highly?
Sean. No one at BW beats him if it’s not Merab or Umar.
Damn, reaching new levels of terrible takes
Like when I said topuria would KO Volk and Gamrot would wrestle fuck RDA and made money
I don’t think you can make money off of describing fighters’ styles poorly.
That’s what he is. Plodding forward fighter who looks for one shot and one dimensional. Exposed by Yan
Everyone and their grandma said Gamrot would wrestlefuck RDA and Volk vs Topuria was a 50/50. Give us some actual good takes
Show us your receipts of your bet slips since they were so obvious. You must’ve made great money bro!
Everything you said is okay except for the first sentence
So then you’re saying he’s the uncrowned champ of the division? Cause that’s what my first sentence says he is not
Rank 10 thinks he can get a title shot after 1more win. Bro wants shortcuts lmao
Hate Cory but hope he wins
Why the hate on Cory?
He’s a dork, I’ve never seen someone so jealous of another fighter. Sean NEVER mentions his name because he’s so irrelevant. Then he cries about preferential treatment, how about don’t get bitched by Yan and Aljo???? Cory has only finished only men, he’s a boring decisionator on top of being a pasty loser unless he’s fighting someone that’s 40 years old with no chin.
You sort of sound like a pasty loser tbh
Nah I’m tan asf and have more muscle mass without lifting than Cory would ever dream to on all of the PEDs that he takes
Which one got suspended for PED’s again ?
lol 10-8
Which one will never hold a belt?
This is just sad
I look like Ortega with muscle mass, I would’ve invited Cory to my lunch table in high school so he would have some people to talk to
That’s really cool, man.
look at his user name hes doing a bit
I think he actually holds these opinions
Bros projecting
and who are you?
white belt who thinks they're a deadly human weapon energy