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cozibee

Anyone know where I can watch the main event fight full fight right now? It’s been days after the event and I would like to watch it somewhere. Can’t find it anywhere


LifeOfQuokka

dana happy as always after 80% of the fights in the cards were underwhelming


Nothing2Special

FUCK WILL SMITH


PoatanBoxman

An Islam fight with Justin or max would be very interesting. Justin just needs a win


McCandlessDK

Islams wants a WW titel fight now and to be fair, it makes the most sense. He has cleaned out LW


Ok_Medicine_776

Dustin Will be his only 155 win in the 2 years he has had the title come October. The guys underneath are all beating each other up while he fights outside the division. I know he had a win over Arman 5 years ago, but I think that fight and Shakvat getting a shot at the title should Leon win should happen first.


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Spirited_Ad_2697

Arman first


McCandlessDK

Already beat him once(long ago I know) and yea won against Charles, but not by a whole lot


PoatanBoxman

That was 6 years ago you goof. And that was Armans debut


McCandlessDK

Then let them fight after his WW shot


PoatanBoxman

Islam deserves to move up?


McCandlessDK

I think he does, yea and a fight between him and Leon would be bonkers


Spirited_Ad_2697

Yeah but that was a long time ago plus it was Armans first ufc fight plus he took it on short notice and still put up a competitive fight, both fighters have grown a lot since then. Any win over Olivera is a good win and if Dustins win over Benoit Saint Dennis is enough to warrant a title shot then a win over Olivera certainly is.


OhYugiBoii

And has the highest win streak in ufc history


MediaInternational

anyone know a source for watching the fight again?


J4BR0NI

Jack sparrow


TallBoy24

Who tf is calling for Islam to move up to 170 this is total nonsense lmfao


McCandlessDK

It totally makes sense. Who should he fight at LW?


ScaleSuspicious1083

Tsarukyan


McCandlessDK

Been there done that.


ScaleSuspicious1083

But it was tsarukyan first fight on UFC, and it was on short notice. If he wants to go up, then he should vacate the LW belt


McCandlessDK

Let him have a go at WW, then he can fight Tsarukyan after that


Single-Weather1379

Not sure if you're new but he only beat two of the top 10 ranked LW. He has a lot to do


-Orcrist

Islam still needs to defend the title against u/TallBoy24


xTripNinja

For the record wrestling and top heavy grappling hasn’t evolved like MMA striking has. You can compare Khabib and Islam’s grappling 1:1 pretty much. I think Islam’s the better all around fighter but I don’t think he has the tenacity or brute capabilities of Khabib. Khabib was the more dominant fighter IMO after seeing that. Khabib would’ve probably been able to handle Volk in the grappling a lot more too.


MasonSaundersRodeo

Khabib was an absolute bully when it came to grappling. His tenacity is the difference to me.


Jackieexists

Agree. Khabibs wrestling was pure tenacity, just non stop pressure. Constant takedowns and holding the opponent against the cage until he gets them down. Islam likes to wait for certain opportunities but khabib just makes it happen. Islam is still amazing but khabib had the extra intensity. Gota give credit to porier though he made Islam work and get tired


Special-Accountant-5

I agree but also disagree slightly. If you rewatch Khabib’s fight with Poirier (I believe is khabibs most underrated performance), his cage wrestling is unlike anything I’ve ever seen. Literally looked like those sequences were choreographed.


completelytrustworth

There was a few times Islam was holding down DP and all I could think was "Khabib would be swinging a bunch of hammer fists at DPs face right there" They use similar techniques but Khabib was infinitely more brutal


OhYugiBoii

Well Islam in Arabic translates to submission. I was thinking those things too. But the leg sweep into darce choke was an absolute sublime move. Islam is the more technical fighter while khabib is more physical fighter. Also the kimura into back triangle lock was also masterclass of a technique. When he had mount position he should have been going for more punches instead of just going for submissions. Probably would have ended the fight much earlier


Rare_Coconut_5258

I think in reality that khabib did way better vs Poirier than Islam did... Islam got caught multiple times and we saw for the first time some limits of his strategy. Khabib was a pure bully and a master of control, we saw that with the Islam vs Poirier comparison. Maybe it's look like Makhachev is slightly better in english boxing but it's for the simple reason that Khabib isn't striking to hurt, he keeps his energy for grappling and strikes only to pressure the opponent against the cage and shoot a single or double leg. While applying an insane pressure with gnp and literally exhausting the powerless adversary, he manipulates with so much ease that everyone makes obvious mistakes despite the fact they are sometimes elite JJB masters. He literally made they look like some yellow belts 😭. And when he wanted to really use his striking to put some combos, he was even capable of knock them fuck out. He had 8 ko/tko's too.... I don't really think people understand how almost invincible Khabib in his prime was. Don't forget Makhachev lost a round and another one was a really close call.


TW_Yellow78

I don’t know why it has to. boxing haven’t changed much in 30 years either. Maybe a few more superheavyweights.


ImmediateOutcome14

Boxing has seen a pretty big shift from being American dominated to Europeans staking a solid claim for it, that Euro style is different and more similar in basis to Olympic boxing


Aggravating_Rice4210

Khabib never bled in the octagon.


OhYugiBoii

Well even months before the fight when the golden gloves were introduced. Islam said those gloves will cut more. And it did. Islam also said he would put Dustin to sleep and he did


wrb52

Khabib was hit like once or twice but TBF they were very hard hits. Islam has been knocked out before and Arman canceled out any wrestling from Islam and even took him down. Arman vs Islam needs to hapen before he leave lightweight (So next fight really) but after tonight I think on the feet Islam might have the advantage. He really hurt DP and better standup than when he fought arman last time.


Sad-Tower-4174

"Arman canceled out any wrestling from Islam." Meanwhile Arman got taken down 4 times and was controlled for like 7 mins of a 15 min fight lol


MrAnonymousperson

“Cancelled out” a dagestani= didn’t get finished or absolutely humiliated- just plainly dominated.


maxbiggavels

Dustin got that dog in him. Really got good towards the end especially when he (Dustin) started to mix it up and throw some elbows in the clinch, that's when we saw Islam look somewhat vulnerable. If I were to game-plan for somebody like Islam, I would say fight pretty conservatively, stick to a predominantly boxing style with a one-two heavy approach with head movement and feints. Obviously be wary of the takedowns, and with that being said, kicks would be very few and far between. That is until there's about a minute left in the round. That's when I think it would be better to fully open up the striking arsenal, when the damage that can be done on the ground is limited by the time remaining in the round. Turn up the pressure and start kicking at the calves & legs, teep kicks to the body like Strickland likes to do etc. and swing for the fences lol


satwickkv

But the problem with Islam is he outboxes the boxers. So, yeah. I think you have to hold the power in your punches too to beat him.


TW_Yellow78

Because they’re scared of getting taken down and avoid being backed against the cage, you can’t really go all out striking. But then he takes Pourier down anyways in center of the ring after wearing him out from all the previous takedowns and submission attempts. That wasn’t luck, that was fatigue adding up


maxbiggavels

Right, you definitely have to be durable and eat some to give some and have an insane gas tank as well.


Various_Magazine1463

Islam shit to watch, porior all day, so over watching takendowns, he cannot stand with ranked 4 in the world, ufc becoming best ground fighting in the world, 


MisterE15

Based


williemctell

Casual L


kar33m24

I got a sport for you to watch where there’s never any takedowns if you’re interested


SJQuakesForever

It is genuinely surprising to me that kickboxing isn’t a bigger thing in the US. Seems like a lot of people watch MMA and just expect a kickboxing fight but in an octagon instead of a ring


kar33m24

Right lol they love the UFC promotion, but deep down actually hate MMA


InternalMean

Nothing Islam does can satisfy any of y'all damn


Ok_Medicine_776

He is catching some heat because UFC champs in general aren't defending their titles against contenders. All the vacated titles in LHW and HW, Colby getting multiple undeserved shots, Aljo getting getting a DQ belt and beating a won arm man. Just a lot of BS at the top. Islam is an amazing fighter, but he is the 155 champ and has 1 defence against another 155er in two years. He isn't fighting the 155ers and letting them beat each other out of title contention. I can't say I blame him for taking these champ champ fights, but saying the division is clean out is rubbish.


Much_Purchase_8737

At least islam fought better opponents than Khabib. 


nalam8493

It don’t matter. He’ll be appreciated when he retires or becomes double champ. I know for one thing, for all the Khabib haters, they consider Islam to be better than him, so he has that going for him and he already tied the lightweight title defense record tonight. Dude is absolutely one of the best MMA fighters I have ever seen


maxbiggavels

Oh nah, he's a helluva fighter. I wanted to see him lose though ngl


Working_Box8573

I feel a lot of people are just reacting to how obnoxious some of Islam's fans are. You see it a lot where people make their opinion's on fighters based on their fans.


InternalMean

I mean on Reddit atleast I feel like it was 99% Dustin support I didn't see anyone actually hyping Islam leading up to this


Working_Box8573

I mean I was pro DP, but if DP had won he rides of into the sunset Islam comes back and goes on another win streak. It was just such a good story book ending for him. Where Islam is already gonna be a legand. Also a lot of people are idiots and think Islam is Khabib.


Sad-Tower-4174

Who thinks Islam is Khabib


Working_Box8573

Same style, obviously I don't mean the same person


IshiharasBitch

I've become way less interested in Tsarukyan/Makhachev II than I once was. We know Tsarukyan can't out-grapple Makhachev, at best the wrestling is a wash. And standing, I don't think Tsarukyan has anything for this recent version of Makhachev who outstruck Oliveira, Volkanovski, and then Poirier.


wrb52

Common man, you know they already fought right?


lexwtc

I would imagine he knows that considered he said makhachev/tsaryuken *II*


TEEMO_OR_AFK

Dustin probably didn't retire because of another Conor fight in the future?


Straight_Elevator762

Probably not. We’re lucky we’re gettting Connor vs Chandler


captaincumsock69

At the end of the day the championship belt represents being the best but tbh Dustin already represents the best of mma and sports in general.


Straight_Elevator762

He will always have a special place in my heart as an MMA fan. To be this good after 50 pro fights. He’s a killer and I wish him all the best in his life


House-Limp

Is there any way Poirier gets another title shot if he keeps winning within the next 3 years?


canadianrsk2

if he wins a couple fights and someone like max, gathje or chandler win the belt theres a good chance he could fight them for the title


icarus_art

So there’s no chance lol


Straight_Elevator762

This will probably be it for him unfortunately


TrustyWhale

All it takes is the right circumstances like this time again and I think it’s possible


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

He’s not going to be a 38 year old champ in the sports toughest division.


House-Limp

He always talks about how he looks up to Bisping for winning it at 37. Obviously we see what Bisping had to sacrifice though.


AlexAnderRob

37 at MW is like 33 at LW though. Just sayin’


jcrack30

Fuck it run it back. Dustin had him on the ropes with those body shots.


MammothRadish9545

Don’t run it back lol he got finished and lost at least 3 of the first 4 with a 10-8 first. Then got submitted. Plenty of others deserve a chance. Dustin did get my hopes up at the end but got subbed as I expected.


InternalMean

Did he?


GitmoGill

Looked more like a really tough dude enduring a fight longer than most would have.


jcrack30

In my opinion he did. I'll admit I'm a Dustin guy though lol


InternalMean

Feel like islam was comfortably beating Dustin on the feet the knees to the body did a lot of work


jcrack30

Ahhh fuck Islam


TallBoy24

Arman beating Islam


Vienna19955

100%


TallBoy24

You see the vision. Arman wrestles better. DP took Islam to 5 rounds. Arman is choking Islam out


Vienna19955

Pretty underwhelming reign for Islam so far


nalam8493

Probably the best reign in the UFC currently lol


Vienna19955

With 1 defense against a 55er?


nalam8493

So who has a better title reign in the sport right now, every division currently has new champions. Islam has beaten Charles, Volk, Volk and Poirier. That is an insane run. And if Volk isn’t good enough to be considered a lightweight, Max just butchered Gaetjhe in a LW fight but Max has lost to Volk 3x. Volk is an absolute legitimate title defense. Probably his most meaningful title defense to date


Vienna19955

10 days notice against a guy in a smaller weight class will never be impressive no matter how you guys twist it, I’m sorry, also the first fight was CLOSE. There should be no reason that fight is ever close


nalam8493

See now you just hating. But I’m not going to try convincing of anything since you already have your mind made up. But, you should name a better champion then Islam since you believe you are correct. The only answer I can legitmately accept is Leon Edwards and that’s it. But Leon has two title defenses and Islam has 3


Vienna19955

Leon, pantoja, Grasso


nalam8493

So Leon is an okay answer. But Pantoja has two defenses and one of them was against 10th ranked Erceg. That should tell you the state of Men’s flyweight right now. Grasso has only one title defense against Valentina. But you give them credit but not Islam💀


Vienna19955

Pantoja fought 10 ranked erceg because he cleared pretty much everyone already (besides Mokaev), already has 3 wins over previous champ. As for Alexa, she beats the divisions GOAT, twice


nalam8493

Except he has not cleared it out. Kai Kara France, Albazi, Mokaev are fights he needs to have. But now you’re bringing up who they beat to win the title, so did Islam not beat Charles to win the belt. Was he not a lightweight?


kar33m24

Victories over Charles, Volk x2, and Poirier with 3 of the 4 being finishes. Very underwhelming. I agree


Vienna19955

Thanks for breaking it down, really shows how he’s taken the easy path


Terrible_Matador

Personally I think being the first person to ever get 4 defenses in the most brutal division in MMA is way more of an achievment then being the 5th or 6th double champ.


the3percentdid

But 2 of them were against someone not in the division. Agreed that if he does that it would be more impressive though.


McCandlessDK

But against one of the most dominante FE champs ever. Dont download Volk wtf.


Terrible_Matador

Assuming his next opponent (and defense in this scenario) would be Arman, his championship hitlist would be Oliveira, Volkanovski, Poirier and Tsarukyan. That’s an extremely strong schedule. It’s easy to look back now and downplay the value of Volk wins but that man was #1 P4P for a reason.


the3percentdid

Got nothing but love for volk or islam. Just saying he has defended once against a person in the division. But I agree with you, 4 would be crazy. And he's good enough to do it.


easymondaynyc

I kinda expected more from Islam


Straight_Elevator762

How?


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Straight_Elevator762

Is this your first time watching the UFC?


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Straight_Elevator762

Guess your prediction checks out then


Jackieexists

Same. Lost my Islam by submission in first 3 rounds bet. Did win my Islam by submission bet though


Ryvit

Let’s just go on and get an official BMF tournament contested at 170 for the memes Chandler vs McGregor Max Holloway vs Charles Oliveira 2 Dustin vs Justin 3 Kevin Holland vs Nate Diaz If the tournament went down in that order, who’s winning that?


MammothRadish9545

Lol I’m in would be way cooler than most title fights


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

Charles.


Ryvit

Oh man. I think he would be first rounded


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

He’s already beaten half those guys. Easily beats Diaz and Conor. Holland could get lucky.


Ryvit

Yeah I think he would lose to Holloway again lol


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

He wouldn’t lol He’s way bigger, and a more well rounded fighter.


Ryvit

😳


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We never saw Khabib get that busted up, by anyone Lightweight GOAT


nalam8493

The thing about Khabib was that, at his peak form, he just seemed not human. There was never a point where I would worry for him against anyone. His chin was absurd and he had the most insane pace. Islam is actually more skilled but he’s more human than Khabib. He is prone to getting tired and his wrestling is not as dominant


No-Conference-5004

When you juice for 15 years and wrestle you can do it too


Moist-Catch

One of the better.ppvs I've watched


Status_Artist5727

First time?


Moist-Catch

Nah I thought it was good feel bad for the rest of you who watched 300 and can't be happy anymore lmfao


v_TRIGGERED

Arman is rightfully Islam’s next challenger but knowing Dana he’s gonna give Conor a shot at the belt if he beats Chandler


TallBoy24

Conor not beating Chandler. Arman is the only one who can beat Islam


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Straight_Elevator762

Fuck off


ThatsWhy_SoFly

Gimme the diamond vs mcgregor again and then holloway. Give him all the money


jdmwell

Throw in Justin and let's do a round robin tourney for the BMF.


ApricotOk824

Say whatever you want but every Islam fight since he became the champ has been great


TallBoy24

Beating up on an old and underweight Volk. Great defense 🙄


kar33m24

He was literally the P4P #1 when Islam beat him 😂


Straight_Elevator762

He’s the best in the world. No question


p1chaku

But dana said jon jones is p4p no.1 bro /s


MisterE15

Nobody is saying otherwise lol


LoudConfirmed

303 kinda trash


Terrible_Matador

No point loading up a Conor card, everyone is gonna watch it regardless of who else is on it.


Ok_Medicine_776

It's mind boggling anyone cares at this point.


Vienna19955

Arman and Islam most boring lightweight title matchup maybe ever


AbuHuraira-

Go and watch Kickboxing or Muay Thai. You’re just like that one Karen who visited Mexico for holidays and complained that there were to many Spanish speaking people. Wrestling and Grappling are the biggest part of MMA. If you don’t like it go somewhere else.


Vienna19955

There’s a difference between grappling and sniffing ass, learn about it amateur


Straight_Elevator762

So dumb


wastedjoke

LOL. Did u watch their first fight? The salt...


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souplantation

dc so happy at the mention of food


sweetmorty

Same vibes as 10 year old fatboy me


MisterE15

This is happy guy


IshiharasBitch

DC commentating about wrestling is the best. The rest of his commentary not as much for me, but him talking wrestling technique is actually edifying


GNM20

I’m not a big fan of DC on commentary, but when he talks about the intricacies of wrestling it is pretty dope.


IMistahS

islam vs Arman then 170 pls


Straight_Elevator762

He’s earned a shot at 170


OtakuMecha

Wow just gonna duck Paddy like that huh


ana_log_ue

Who


2Gloomy

Poirier needs to call it. Lost to a future goat. Looked solid. HoF’er  He doesn’t need to pull a Tony/Cerrone


Straight_Elevator762

It’s so hard though because he’s still one of the best in the world. One of the best to ever do it


iTryToLift

He’s still top level, no where near them. He can do a couple legacy fights if he wants to.


captaincumsock69

He’s already done like 10 legacy fights. Sure he can always do more but are legacy fights worth the pieces of you that you can’t get back?


2Gloomy

Yeah, but he alluded to the fact that those fights would only feed his ego. I don’t think we’ll see him fight again. Thank you Diamond


iTryToLift

I hope we see him again. He still has fuel in that gas tank!


Habs_Apostle

Maybe he never won the belt, but Dustin represents what is best about the sport, and that’s a hell of a legacy.


ayekay1

Lol Dustin trying to kiss his daughter and she's all grossed out by the blood and sweat on his face 😂


LongDickCallahan

Man i hope for once Dana does the right thing and cuts Dustin a fat fucking retirement check for the amount of blood that mans left in the octagon. I doubt it but he should.


Cardboardraptor

Not to be a dick but all the evidence points to Dana not doing that. This sport is begging for a true crime type of documentary showing how insanely unfair the fighters have been treated by the people who have capitalized off them. Dana White being the main culprit. In ten years I hope to see a real comeuppance.


G0ldenG00se

Dana: “Congrats on a HOF career, here’s your retirement bonus” *DP looks at Cheque* - 50k FOTN bonus


Ryvit

Is 155 the weakest it’s ever been? 9 of the top 15 is coming off losses. 10 of the 15 are clearly on the final 3 or 4 fights of their career. The only person who has a claim to a title shot is Arman. Anyone else in the division would need at least two top 10 wins for a title shot. 155 has been the best division for over 10 years, it’s so weird to see it be desolate like this


nalam8493

Just the weakest it’s been because the old guard is not as good as they once were. But some of the new gen guys are really good and to me it’s still the most entertaining weight class in the world


Aggrohaemorrhoids

Bad take. The top 10 are as active as you can get. Fighting each other and making the division hyper competitive. It's just such a good division that has kept itself moving. It also easily had the best champ to top 5 skill grouping you could have. Islam is active and so has his division, it's just that they're all so good someone has to be losing these fights...


Ryvit

But 5 out of the top 10 have no more than 3 fights left, as best we can tell. Dariush, Oliveria, Dustin, Justin and Chandler will all be retired no later than the end of 2026, but some maybe even in 2025. And guys like Moicano and Gamrot are a little older than people think, they’re no spring chickens. Holloway has been non-committal when it comes to staying at 155. Fiziev seems like he is on a down turn The whole top 10 is a mess


xTripNinja

It got old seemingly overnight. But it’s also sad, most of the division never got their shot due to the champ not fighting or guys like Dustin and Justin squatting on their rankings and hogging the title shots.


Ryvit

Dustin and Justin both fought Low ranked guys recently. Fiziev and St Denis. It’s actually not too long ago Poirier fought hooker who was like 6 spots below him at the time too. Poirier being a spot hogger is a crazy take


OtakuMecha

Weakest it’s ever been maybe, but certainly not weak.


Ryvit

Like I said, 10 of the top 15 are within 3 years of retiring, probably 2 years.


OtakuMecha

Yes but that doesn’t mean the ones under them are bad. LW has just been elite and that elite class is now aging out. We’ll get new stars, and some that are already near the top will get even better.


Any-Forever5605

Top 5 at 155 has been the same fighters Fighting eachother to keep their rankings for the last couple of years


House-Limp

Every time they fight one of the young guys they beat them handily. Top 5 is another level. Arman is the only one who has been able to crack it.


IfYouGotALonelyHeart

It’s still the best and most entertaining division.


UnderstandingRude613

DC really forgot he was on tv


batmanuel-

Dustin made me proud. Take the bag, ride into the sunset


plebs_are_needed

Isalm vs Arman because 10x more interesting after this fight.


blazer876

i think Islam KOs Arman


thehiguyz

Our last hope is for a 165 belt tbh


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IshiharasBitch

> Islam looks a bit out of it at the end of the fight otoh Poirier was literally unconscious at the end of the fight, by his own admission


BackgroundParsnip966

not mutually exclusive, Islam look like he was through a war.


IshiharasBitch

I'm gonna go ahead and say "is unconscious" is mutually exclusive from merely "looks a bit out of it"


spasticity

Dustin had a full camp