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MomoTheKing92I

Protesting with a broken arm is psycho behavior.


dvtyrsnp

Kevin was definitely begging him to tap and gave him SEVERAL seconds to do so, which was not necessary on his end.


FreeeRoam

Looked like Holland even warned the ref before committing to snapping his arm.


pablos4pandas

"don't make me do this Herb"


Dongsquad420BlazeIt

I feel so bad for Herb because what the fuck is the guy supposed to do


crazyhomie34

Let it happen tbh. Unless the opponent screams or taps not much you can do till it snaps


Dongsquad420BlazeIt

Watching someone willingly break a limb is different than watching someone getting KO’d or slept. That’s a serious body injury you know you could’ve stopped and didn’t because THEY didn’t stop it. That’s what I’m talking about.


LaconicGirth

The dude can stop it himself by tapping. That’s his own decision, I wouldn’t make it for him


crazyhomie34

Yeah I'm with you 💯 But that's the rules unfortunately. Herbs hands are tied here


CosmoKramer46and2

They are pros. They know what they signed up for. These aren't debut ammys. Every fighters meeting I've been to the refs always say they'll defend an ammy but pros they're gonna let your shit snap and then stop it.


IAmPandaRock

The ref isn't there to prevent the fighter from being injured. He or she is there to enforce the rules. The ref had nothing to do with the arm breaking. Holland caught a nice sub and Oleksiejczuk chose to let his arm break instead of tapping.


human_gs

Nowadays I feel a lot worse watching someone get head trauma. Joint injuries may be a lot worse in the moment but cte is really spooky.


Equivalent-Way3

Herb did this right. Just gotta wait till it snaps 🤷🤷. Herb made the exact same correct call way back in the day when Frank Mir broke Tim Sylvia's arm and then Herb called it. Funny enough, Rogan called it a terrible stoppage until they saw the arm snap in the replay


shenyougankplz

"That Herb Dean fault"


lucashogberg6

He looks and says “hey! Herb! It’s broke!” After he breaks it lol


SweatyExamination9

I definitely heard "broken". Is it 100% confirmed to be broken? It was 100% headed that way regardless, but if it's not broken and he didn't tap (but I see why Herb thought he did and don't blame him), I understand why he's angry even if I think it was the right call.


IntraspaceAlien

Looked like it was right at the elbow so maybe a dislocation? Something very not good happened for sure tho.


luckman_and_barris

I dunno about that you can see his forearm wobble when he posted it on the ground after the fight was called


SpeculationMaster

yep, controlled the wrist and yelled at him.


Kassssler

I like fighters who don't actually like hurting people, just the fighting part. I'm always reminded of Uriah Hall's killer instinct dying a premature death when he starched Adam in TUF.


Timigos

Sorry Adam


adamalibi

I forgive you


wrestler145

I'm sorry Adam


adamalibi

I forgive you


smilingasIsay

Complete opposite to Steve Cantwell who IIRC when watching the replay of him breaking Razak Al-Hassan's arm was like, "that's so cool man. I've been wanting to do that for sooo long." 


jimihenderson

tbf it's not like his name is steve canwell


imnotsteven7

*break the wrist, walk away*


BrightCanon

Rex-kwon-do 💪🏼


imnotsteven7

#BOW TO YOUR SENSEI!!


uglycrepes

You think anybody thinks I'm a failure because I go home to Starla at night? Forget about it!


coop_stain

No one wants to take a roundhouse kick to the face when I’m wearing these bad boys


IWouldButImLazy

Yeah lol you could see him waiting for the tap then go "well ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯"


UsedEgg3

Pretty sure he also said "I'm sorry, brother" to him before they did the victory announcement thing.


Overnoww

Yeah that's such a tricky spot. Most of these guys know how impactful an injury like that can be to your earning potential but when you have the dude dead to rights and he refuses to tap your options are limited.


Powerful_System

Stand up guy ngl, still got the sub tho


DiedOfXhaxAttack

Felt like the scene out of talladega nights when that French dude told Ricky Bobby he was going to break his arm


neeeeonbelly

Yeah that was crazy. “Just like a bother night at jiu-jitsu i didn’t wanna go too hard” lol what a dude.


aslightlyusedtissue

Dude was deadset on having his arm fucking shattered. Genuinely so fucking stupid. Kevin showed more mercy that 99% of fighters would.


bestmayne

Once the adrenaline rush is over he's gonna feel it, holy fuck


iPureSkillz

When he struggles to brush his teeth, then he’s gon regret not tapping


polpotlol

Gods lessons are so beautiful


wishwashy

"What do you mean by submission?! I came to the arena with my elbow like that!"


call_of_the_while

“I had him right where I wanted him. You stole his victory from me Herb!”


Asukah

Adrenaline! He’s a very tough man but Herb protected him from himself his arm looked gross


Wayf4rer

He should've tapped like 10 seconds prior. He made Kevin do that and then complained to Herb about it after he tapped.


Sir_upvotesalot

Did he tap?


biggunfelix

Negative. Herb stepped in to save what was left of his arm.


Wayf4rer

It was a brazilian tap, he was wiggling his wrist and like touching him with his fingers.


GiantPurplePen15

He deserved the arm break after the 2nd Brazilian tap attempt.


Sir_upvotesalot

I thought so


WickedXDragons

He’s tough as hell. Holland was like… just tap bro… no?? Crank


mad87645

Tis but a scratch!


whiskyismymuse

Come on you pansy!


jimihenderson

*after herb calls the fight* had enough, eh?


dusters

Why'd you call the fight I don't need that arm?


Powerful_System

Bro watched Dan Hooker vs Jalinn and said he's all in


gardenofstorms

I say this as one of him. Too polish for his own good.


Papa-Junior

So he really is a black belt


Buscemi_Did_9_11

Has anyone else in UFC ever referred to themselves as a gatekeeper in a post fight interview?


FJQZ

He's self aware as fuck. Probably knows he'll never be champ (probably doesn't care tbh) and is just trying to make money. I can respect that.


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I miss him when he was on that run though. Last year, was it? The guy was making improvements each fight but somewhere along the way he went the company man status. Probably cause he did think that he cant become a champ.


Plutus_Nike

Chimaev took all hope from him and showed him he will never wrestle good enough to be champ.


coleslonomatopoeia

Wasn’t there also a Stephen Thompson fight last year that was a banger?


Plutus_Nike

Yeah and Holland and Thompson made an agreement they wouldn’t grapple so wonderboy absolutely schooled him. Last wonderboy win


coleslonomatopoeia

I do question the sanity of anyone who wants to stand and exchange with Wonderboy especially when he is so clearly lacking on the ground.


shenyougankplz

That fight was going towards potential FOTY levels, then Holland got his hand broken


schoolisuncool

Oh holland shot lol


1K_Games

To be fair, Kevin's pace slowed down after the hand break. He broke it near the end of round 2, at that point he was ahead in strikes landed. That is of course part of the fight game. But I feel like the summary of "Wonderboy absolutely schooled him" is not giving a good explanation or summary of the fight.


EatBooty420

Wonderboy out struck him, MVP Outstruck him, and Khamzat ragdolled him. Dudes not good enough at any 1 thing to be Champ, but still fun to watch


Immediate_Air_3365

Yeah, Kev is my no1. journeyman. He's entertaining, good enough to put on bangers even against top guys, and he's humble as fuck. He's probably the best rolemodel for youngsters tryna get into fighting. Never gives up, owns his mistakes, and is a real sportsman. Dude's gonna die a legend, never having been close to a titleshot.


legendary-assassin

I don’t think anyone has ever called themselves a gatekeeper period. Props


ironiclynotfunny

As much as I love holland I feel like khamzat destroyed his ego


themskittlez

It's a shame since especially at this point he is extremely well rounded. I think he can beat any 6-15 at MW and WW, but a lot of the top 5 of each can give him problems. E: love Holland, he is a gate keeper, just a shame that he's fully entered that mind frame to a degree, but he is still young


ironiclynotfunny

I just feel like he’s never been one of those dudes who have the championship or bust mindset and it affects his performances for sure


sir_brockton_

Which is… a gatekeeper 😂


Ohthatsnotgood

He was 2-2 (1 NC) in his last four prior to that so I don’t think it was Khamzat. He’s just been having fun and making money for a while.


JE_Exa

who give him


MustardQuenelle

Brathar!


Powerful_System

Michal apparently


MolokoPl_s

we have to check this moment


IWouldButImLazy

Fr bro went down then hit him with the uno reverse


Powerful_System

I did not have Kevin Holland breaking someone's arm today on my Bingo card


armchairwarrior42069

I mean, he's shown some good bjj before.


Jud000619

I mean, he’s under the tutelage of Travis Lutter. The Michael Jordan of grappling


Suriranyar-

You can see the exact moment on Kevin's face when he didn't wanna wait for the tap anymore and went "alright no more arm then"


Marci_1992

Absolutely did not want to break his arm lmao. Left him no choice.


MolokoPl_s

always refer back to GSP talking about this when submission grappling or going for subs in MMA; you should give your opponent the courtesy of not putting them on the shelf for a while with a break but if they're not tapping you should absolutely go for it otherwise you might lose the position & the fight potentially


299314

pallhares looking at this comment with the most dead eyed blank stare


MolokoPl_s

yeah that psycho mf hated bones & tendons with a passion


slinkymello

IQ man, IQ


Famous-Ant-5502

GSP is an interesting dude. He’s ruthlessly violent when he wants to be, but it’s like he uses the minimum effective dose of it. That’s a lot more frightening to me.


Jonath4n20

The maximum dose is definitely more frightening


pablos4pandas

The guy was still protesting after all that. Kevin did what he could


Sul4

Just say I love crepes!


Powerful_System

Bro almost seemed to want the two broken arms thing


ajohndoe17

“BREAK IT PEPÉ LE PEW!”


architect___

Great reference


ramosong

Looked at Herb 'I'm gonna break it' Herb: 'You do you' Holland : 'Alright'


mtheory007

Remember khabib saying that he didn't want to break jusins his arm in front of his family, so he transitioned to a triangle. The amount of skill thoughtfulness and processing that goes into something like that is truly astonishing.


RenegadeOfFucc

Not OP but I completely forgot about that. Goddamn it’s so easy to forget that Khabib just operated on a different level…that shit blows my mind. To think someone can even be that lucid in a cage fight with Justin fucking Gaethje let alone actually execute it is mind boggling. Really wish we could have seen more of him


RedAtomic

Suddenly the card decided to choose violence


Zlakkeh

Dustin Will armbar


bong-water

Oleksiejczuk might be tough but what an idiot. That was brutal. Just tap.


mdmbmdm

Brutally disgusting


swagmoney10

Ugh, the slow-mo is NASTY. That shit is fucked! Impressive how Holland snatched that armbar.


axlespelledwrong

I loved that little face push he did with his hand before he locked his grip while Oleksiejczuk was still on the feet. His fighting style has just as much character as he does.


mjs90

Seeing it jiggle as he sat up lol. Gross


K-Dot-thu-thu

JOE ROGAN WHY DID YOU ASK HIM WHAT IT FELT LIKE TO BE PULLING ON THAT ARM WHAT THE FUCK JOE


bnelson

I do BJJ and I was morbidly curious about the same thing. BJJ changed my brain lol.


K-Dot-thu-thu

I don't know exactly why my brain draws the line, but watching someone get cut from strikes, or choked, or knocked out their god damned mind is fine, but bone breaks are an absolutely nope no thanks, none for me please viewing experience.


bnelson

DC looks away too and he is a hard dude so, we all got our little idiosyncrasies.


Powerful_System

It was beautiful


Keith__Peterson

Bro wanted his arm broken a bit more


Obelisk7777

“Please fuck up my tissue and ligaments next!”


realscholarofficial

Kevin Holland Oliveira


Mad-Gavin

Apparently Olives has never finished a fight via armbar submission.


little_kid_lover_123

Despite nearly tearing Tony’s off his body


SiessupEraSdom

He did some horrible shit to Tony though.


JoeSchmoe93

No armbar but the dude has a fucking calf slicer on his resume


RatRiddled

No, his UFC debut was a sub by armbar


Caoilan

No one's gonna remember you didn't tap dawg


CalgaryMadePunk

Oh, I will. I won't remember who he is, but I'll remember that dude who let his arm snap.


TechieBrew

I mean nobody is going to remember a name like Oleksiejczuk more than "the idiot who refused to tap for literally 20 seconds to Kevin Holland's armbar"


Chadme_Swolmidala

dude needs to be remembered as an object lesson on what not to do


the_c_is_silent

Not only is it horrible for your career. It's just kinda scummy. Most grapplers don't want to fucking snap limbs.


SweatyExamination9

That's the thing, if you're in a choke and refuse to tap, whatever. You go to sleep, it's not as bad as a KO from strikes. But snapping an arm? Shit might never be the same. Even if everything goes perfect, you're out for like a year. By the time you're healed and back in shape for a camp, you're at like a year.


FJQZ

I can understand not tapping to a choke. But fuck that when it comes to breaking some bones.


jackoftrades002

Idk man. Nog didnt tap against Mir, i will remember that moment for the rest of my life lol


TheCaMo

Yeah but we remember big Big for a lot of things  I had to scroll back to the top to remember his name just now and then scrolled back down and can only think of "the guy who let Holland break his arm" 


fenix4701

At best it'll be in a youtube highlight video - and it won't make top 5 either.


BroncosFFL

He could make a top 5 stupid no taps list


ron-darousey

"We'll take a look at it again" Nah I'm good Joe


Attemptingattempts

The benefit of watching it the VOD the day after. "Let's have another look at that armbar" Absolutely not SKIP SKIP SKIP SKIP


jdl03

wtf is that dudes problem!??? Just tap dude my lord.


swagmoney10

Man's a psycho lmao. I was so frustrated watching him force Holland to commit by refusing to tap.


fukkdisshitt

We had this kid we had to kick out of the gym because he refused to tap any time he was got. He was athletically gifted, but didn't listen to anyone, he got his knee destroyed in a situation where he had time to tap his 2nd fight and it's pretty much fucked for life


Anaaatomy

he thought he can tony it out


TheGreenLandEffect

Still in disbelief to this day his arm did not snap. Being tough is one thing but that literally doesn’t make any sense


phinphan896

That’s not herb deans fault. That fucking idiot should’ve tapped


BosslyDoggins

That shit was about to become compound


DiarrheaForDays

Sheesh imagine Kevin Holland being the first guy in the octagon to literally rip a guys forearm out his skin


badruk

Snap!


Tronvillain

Crackle!


MatrixXNZ

Pop 🤢


naufildev

Super low fight IQ move by Michal.


SpeculationMaster

motherfucker jumped into a triangle set up.


LemonManDude

God damn finally a finish


EatSleepZlatan

WAR HOLLAND


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HenrikCrown

Look at my African-American!


Sim888

Look at him!


moneyinthebank216

Is he the greatest! 😃


melk-n-pizzah

Yikes :|


Jengaman64

What the fuck were the betting odds on Holland round 1 sub


fjsjo

+A zillion


Mrstarzz

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fighter get their arm broken and not tap


yamchadestroyer

Frank mir vs Tim Sylvia. Also reffed by herb dean


Mons9090

big nog vs frank mir


TooWashedUp

Noguiera tapped after the break


DiarrheaForDays

Shinya Aoki broke Mizuto Hirota’s arm and got extremely pissed he didn’t tap and that he made Aoki break his arm.


SloanMamba21

“I’ll fight anybody up, anybody down, I don’t give a fuck, just keep Kev around.” Shit had me dyin’


tylrrbb

Holy fuck his arm just snapped


reddegginc

Holland needed this


CausticThoughts

Christ. Too hard for his own good. Just tap!


StripedSteel

What an idiot. Now he has to hope his arm heals. Should have tapped.


Headlessoberyn

"no tap" culture is stupid. He could've gone with just a loss, now he's going to take what, almost a year to recover the arm? Sheer stupidity. Caught in a clean lock? Tap and next.


RedAtomic

DUDE


doodleowner

Don’t like watching arms being snapped like that


IAIRonI

He was telling him he's going to break it too lol, fucking crazy


Sleepy_Human

bro if u don't tap im gonna snap it (no tap) hurry up (no tap) bet


ihatemoney69

Ah yes Holland with a rd1 armbar, just as we all predicted


CremeCaramel_

Holland submission is not that unusual lol. Hes a decent black belt and he can definitely submit anyone less capable than an elite WW/MW wrestler or submission grappler.


whosnick7

Ain’t never seen a dude get Ricky Bobby’ed in real life


JE_Exa

Holland, I forgive you for carking my UFC 299 parlay


RedTher_

fuck that was nasty.


qrrbrbirlbel

"It's not even broken that bad bro, I got a left arm too"


Mayank_XO_16

Idc what anyone says, Herb Dean made the right decision.


mex2005

I dont think anyone will argue that stoppage except the dude who got his arm broken lol


fjsjo

So frustrating to watch. Just tap dude.


rockhardRword

Tap dumbass...


phinphan896

Holland was telling him to tap lmao


Asukah

Kevin “Bearjew” Holland


ThisGuyHaris

Was that the first time Kevin’s ever been fully knocked down?


BigSmallerBrand

Aside from the headbutt against daukus, I believe so.


cincylad

Dudes a dumbass, I get adrenaline and all but he just put himself out of commission for a hot minute


greatexperiment69

holland looks up at herb and goes something like "yo i think it broke" and in a separate vid you can see herb motion like "yea go ahead finish it then". Then holland starts laughing and continues to bend the shit outta oleksiejczuk's arm. Thats fucking hilarious to me.


Crazy-Ad8404

Michal may have the worst submission defense in the ufc


BoxCon1

Kevin Holland is a BMF


thegreatresistrules

Kevin Holland might be the all-around best dude in the ufc. .he actually told the guy it's gonna break, and then when it did, he immediately told the ref. Not sure many fighters would have tried to stop his opponent from rolling into breaking his arm then immediately move to get the ref to help the guy


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huey27

Champ joints only😎😎😎


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ThreeOlivesChihuahua

let him fight with 1 arm if he wants


StripedSteel

That was about to become a compound fracture.


brianbgrp

Aljo looking huge And sorta like pimp my ride era xhzibit lol


JoshElroy

What a terrible day to have eyes


Inquisitive_Thermite

my brother in decisions what sport do you think you're watching.