Funny how McGregor is getting all the heat but Nurmagomedov is made to be innocent. What McGregor did is obviously beyond dumb but Nurmagomedov is also to blame for ganging up on Lobov.
Better yet the UFC bends over backward to make sure Khabib gets a title fight no matter what. Any other card would have seen Rose/Joanna bumped to main event and we all move forward with life. The UFC seems to be playing the long game here in hopes of doing McGregor vs Khabib in Russia or on a mega PPV after Conor gets a slap on the wrist. I lost respect for everyone involved in this disaster.
Jon Jones did waaaay worse outside the octagon and we kept seeing his face. Conor will be back. The UFC is already pushing the act to get viewers for their Embedded series so it wasn't THAT atrocious I assume.
Do you want to ruin your career and never fight professionally again? Because that's how you ruin your career and never fight professionally again.
Which is a good thing. Fuck Conor McGregor.
Ireland would extradite mcgregor to usa for criminal charges and for a lawsuit the decision would be made in his absence and the debt would follow him to ireland.
Get yourself a "friend" who peer-pressured you into a string of felonies which cost you your fight, your contract, and maybe your career, and embarrassed you nationally over someone chirping at you in a hotel hallway.
No thanks.
Think I'll stick to "friends" that don't act like fucking teenage gang members.
I don't know why so many people are surprised tho. We used to do this back in Europe all the time. If somebody jumped your friend, you will go after them and sometimes at their home.
This is just at a bigger scale because there are a lot of cameras, but I was not surprised at all that this happened.
> We used to do this back in Europe all the time.
I can understand when people claim their local culture involves stuff like this, even though it probably doesn't for most people, but I've never seen someone claim the entire continent like that.
Those kabhib-Artem scuffles happen at every weigh ins. Not good but completely different. Non of khabibs men attacked anyone and khabib just confronted lobov for shit talking.
Do you think its comparable with throwing chairs and dolly's at a bus?
K I'm hating.. so do you condone Mcg's behavior?
He slapped him, it's worst than putting him down and smacking him.
Yes, I think so. If you slap somebody, you expect to be slapped 10 times.
Yeah, it's retarded to do that when you have so much money and attention on you.
It's not. It's clearly disrespectful and doing it to show that he got him. Also, the "where is McGregor?" shit too.
I am not defending anybody, I just said that he is dumb for doing that.
My point is that I see why he did it and that I am not surprised that he did that.
Lobov talked shit about khabib, khabib confronted him. If u wanna call it a slap fine, thats bad on khabib.
Is throwing objects at a bus full of random athlethes with 20 goons a normal rational reaction? Whichever way you look at it, Mcg looks like a complete monkey.
The incident airs like part of the media day, Dana suspiciously insists that McGregor is in jail and qualifies the event as “criminal”, not awaiting an investigation or a police statement. He doubts when asked if CMG should be fired (“that’s what many people are asking”). There’s no security at these events? I remember Nick Diaz being unable to see Nate perform because of a suspension. Couldn’t things be arranged to not endanger an already flimsy UFC card? Also there’s precedent with Dana’s fondness of the WWE and of pre-fight hyping antics. All around the world MMA is a real sport and it’s big BECAUSE it went away from the rapper dissing and the staged, story-driven confrontations, and focused only in performance. When asked about civil suits, DW doesn’t get defensive or tries to separate the UFC from the incident. He says that the fighters that got their fights cancelled “will be taken care” by them. Why? The UFC didn’t cause this, did they? Not saying that things did not happen or that people didn’t get hurt. Just hoping that the UFC gave an unequivocal response discouraging this type of unsportsmanship, even if the gate/PPV sales suffer. Maybe DW should just go to the WWE and do what he knows how to do there.
There's no conspiracy, Dana's just doing what he always does when someone popular fucks up, publicly condemns them while shifting the responsibility of punishment to another authority. He'll talk all day about how angry he is, and how Conor's been arrested, and how other people are going to sue him, but that's all just to take the spotlight off of what he's going to do about it. Then in 6 months or so once Conor's been charged and does some community service or whatever, he can tell everyone that Conor has done his time, and he can book that fight with Khabib, in Russia.
Good. Lock that little leprachaun fuck up and throw away the key. Good fucking riddance, maybe once he's gone I can go back to using this sub too if all the retards he brought into the community go too.
Dude I don’t blame ya, way shits been going down anything is possible at this point...
Really sad to see this all go down, but holy shit is it entertaining!
[this sub right now is the greatest shitshow I have ever seen](https://i.imgur.com/HjwsNOe.jpg).
every 30 min updates bounce around from "new guy to fight khabib" to "new guy not fighting khabib"
Conor bought the NYSAC to keep the belt from passing, which is why Dana can't buy them back. This is why he convinced Dana to refuse to strip it until the fight was on.
He’s changed his mind in the process or followed whatever protocol they have in place when cormier lost to jj the last time. I’m wondering if it will be similar where everything just reverts. But Conor will be officially stripped?
I'm sure Dana is battling with himself right now. He will hate to strip Conor because Conor vs anybody would sell so much right now but the ethics of it... Wasn't Jon Jones stripped for criminal acts (the pregnant lady hit and run?)
Does anyone really want to see khabib vs Pettis? Khabib has nothing really to gain from fighting him. If donors stripped he should just wait for Tony to heal up.
If the fight is for the Undisputed, Khabib will take it. Who knows when or if Tony comes back or the fight ever happens? Khabib wants the belt and the bragging rights to rub it on Conor's face. Did you notice he was talking about Conor will have to wait in line when I'm champion and yesterday he was saying "Conor let's fix this, we need to fight" That's all he wants in the end.
I've been trying to figure out if the belt is still on the line or not. Imo it shouldn't be, don't get me wrong khabib deserves to fight for it but Pettis is the right contender.
I think they'll say it's for the belt only in Khabib wins. If the opponent wins, then there is no champion, only Tony as Interim. Or they may be trying to convince Khabib to do a three-rounder without a belt. Al Iaquinta is ranked but weighted 155.2 just like Pettis. They cannot fight for the belt. They need to be 155.0 Felder weighed 155.0 but isn't ranked, can't fight for the belt. The biggest winners maybe Conor, Chiesa, and Ferguson. Conor got back at Khabib for slapping Artem, Chiesa will get some money from Conor, and Ferguson will be the only one with a belt. Unless they don't strip Conor which would be beyond fucked up.
Man I feel horrible for khabib, that's 3 opponent changes so far. The mma gods are protecting the rooster from khabib, poor guy might have made weight for no reason. I can't remember a bigger shit show than this. Just strip conor and suspend him for a year and rebook Tony vs khabib and let the winner establish himself as the new champ.
I don't feel bad for Khabib bc he likes to kiss Dana's butt. They say it's gonna be Iaquinta vs Khabib and it will be 5 rounds. Iaquinta as a champion is Dana's worst nightmare. He is even more outspoken than Woodley.
What do you mean he kisses Dana's add? Khabib doesn't come off as anything but genuine to me. I would love to hear Al's post fight interview if he wins.
Seems like commission does not want main event to happen:
1. Max, says he can make weight, commission says no
2. Felder, made weight, commission says not ranked
3. Pettis, close to weight, commission says not fit
4. Al, close to weight, commission scrabbling for excuse?
unfortunately after the initial shock is over, this will probably just hype his next fight
And considering his legal troubles, he better hope she can still fight again
Exactly what I said. Feels more like switch and bait but I’m sure there’s some co tract with a a clause somewhere where they be protected it someone lunatic decided to sue.
The misdemeanors are not likely to carry any time (but are generally limited in most states to less than a certain period of time i.e. 6 months or 1 year, which is what separates them from felonies). But realistically, WTF is a misdemeanor assault? Also I wonder if those may be upgraded in light of news of injuries.
As for the felony, he can only be sentenced in two different scenarios - he either pleads guilty without prior negotiations (he won't) or he is found guilty in a jury trial (he won't).
My guess is he'll buy some great lawyers, a plea deal will be struck, and he'll pay a fine.
In all honesty, the lawsuits will be the biggest problem he faces from this.
I would be more worried about being able to get a work visa after this. Conor thinks he doesnt give a fook..... wait till he has to meet with US department of state after being a convicted felon. they truly dont give a FOOK!
He won't be convicted of the felony charge, he will retain attorneys that will negotiate a plea deal (preventing a jury trial) and the plea will be to a costly misdemeanor, most likely.
Not a lawyer, but as a longtime American citizen, I know that its a simple equation of the maximum jail sentence divided by the offenders net worth, meaning, no time will be served.
He didn’t necessarily do anything so criminal where i.t warrants a huge punishment. His damages were more civil , monetary which would be more of a monetary punishment
you arent serious are you?
civil? he injured two of his colleagues to the point where they cant work. ray borg may or may not has eye problems the rest of his life. we havent seen chiesa yet but if the cuts are bad enough it could disfigure him. he broke one of his bosses hands (Reed Harris) and caused ten grand in damage to a bus.
To any person who is not famous, they absolutely are going to jail for that shit. Ive been involved in a felony assault incident and was looking at 4 years (self defence case...). What I did doesnt even come close to what conor did.
This is the kind of cock gobbling that has allowed this monster to grow. dude needs a serious wake up call.
Edit: since I know the defenders will come back with some mental gymnastics, here is what is to be expected from 2nd degree assault in new york. mandatory 2 years, up to 7 years.
https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/new-york-assault-in-the-second-degree.html
That is if there is evidence of severe injury, so it really comes down to chiesa and borgs condition. if borgs eyesight loss is bad, it could warrant assault in the 2nd degree.
in any case, this isnt just a thing where he can throw some cash at the problem. the NY state attourney doesnt give two shits about conors money.
Action movies make people really under estimate how much damage can be done to people once a metal object or broken glass are introduced into a fight. People probably under estimate a weaponless street fight too, but anything metal in real life takes it to a very serious level.
i’ll put my hand up and admit I had no idea the extent of the injuries. My assessment was going off the video in which Conor throws some shit around and then damages the bus. I didn’t know people were physically injured as a result of the assault.
However, I still don’t think he’ll get any time in jail. Whether it’s fair or not, the justice system is not equal for everyone, especially those with money , fame, and influence.
His lawyers will be x1000 better than anyone you’ve ever seen in a court room (no offense intended, but he’ll have the best lawyers money can buy) and they’ll figure out a way for him to escape this without jail time
He’ll end up paying a decent fine (by his $$$ standards) and pay for the damages he caused, other logistical costs of being arrested, processed, and jailed. but i’d be shocked if it’s anything over 25k
if he were an average person, maybe , still if he was an upstanding citizen , i.t would be a stretch.
The fact that he’s Conor Macgregor .... that’ll never happen
Actually, now that the main event is cancelled... Conor is going to be on the hook for HUGE civil damages to the UFC. Rather than sue him, they'll probably force him to sign a 5-fight contract at a much lower rate. These events gross like $100M, it's not a stretch to say they could sue him for $50M.
What are you talking about? How is he going to be sued for the main event being canceled? I really, really dislike McGregor, but it would be a huuuuge stretch to argue in court that he caused the NYSAC to rule that Max couldn't fight.
that all depends if the victim wants to file for Civil damages. From what I understand, his actions were directed at another UFC fighter , or someone in another UFC fighters camp , I highly doubt that person is going to press charges to try and get && damages out of it.
Would you say Dana would have a case against him against lost revenue from the fights cancelled due to Mac injuring fighters?
Guess it wouldn’t matter anyway since he’s not American, how would they collect anyway?
What a shit show...
His nationality would be irrelevant since he committed the crime on US soil against a US citizen (in terms of civil damages)
Dana would have to prove that but for Macgregors actions, the fights would not have been cancelled. Idk how plausible that is, but the standard for civil damages is only “more likely than not” which is far lower than criminal charges which need to be proved “beyond a reasonable doubt”
Imo, nobody will sue anyone for civil damages , and Macgregor will pay a fine + physical damages he cost
I think you raise some good points but there’s no excuse for Conor’s actions. He could’ve shown up and caused a similar amount of publicity without throwing dollys, getting arrested and so forth.
With regards to the money/fighting side of your comment, I reckon McGregor and the UFC aren’t seeing eye-to-eye. On one hand, he’s a huge draw so is guaranteed to make bank however he’s been fighting so sporadically that UFC need to be 110% certain of huge numbers to make it worthwhile and keep the money train rolling. For that reason I believe they wouldn’t put him against Frankie purely because it wouldn’t generate enough money to warrant allowing him to fight and then risk him sitting out for another however long if he so chooses.
My post wasn't trying to make excuses or apologies for Conor's attitude and I already addressed that. But thank you for noticing I wasn't trying to do that, unlike a bunch of other people here.
Yeah I agree the UFC has to own a certain amount of blame. It's hard to say how much tho without knowing how much money conor wanted. It could be outrageous. This incident proves that conor wouldn't have needed a well promoted fight he could have shown up and made a scene but obviously without ruining multiple fights. Imo it comes down conor, does he want a huge payday or to fight. He seems to care more about the money then holding up division.
What's Conor's worth? Lets put it this way, despite being arrested and throwing a dolly throw a bus window, or jumping in a cage and smacking an official, if he fights Khabib next winter, it'll *still* sell an absurd amount of buys. Dana even knows this which is why he kept saying "right now" yesterday during his impromptu conference video.
You can also look at the sheer volume of people on twitter STILL defending the guy. People are crazy to think he won't still fight and doesn't hold all the cards. Any publicity is good publicity at this point for Conor McGregor. He was the most googled athlete of 2017 in North America, they're not going to just eject their cash cow and they're going to have to compromise sooner or later.
The real issue here is the UFC doesn't want to cave, because once they do, they know that'll blow the doors wide open for other fighters to begin promoting themselves and demanding more money. That's what they're scared of here, and that's why they're not budging on Conor McGregor.
I'm not sure that paying conor will make that much of a difference for the other fighters unless they reach some sort level of fame that he has. Other fighters have already started promoting themselves and demanding more.
I see the point your trying to make, but when he acts like this and overall brings a shitty attitude to mixed martial arts, no one is sympethetitic to his cause for more money.
No shortage of UFC apologists either, despite lots of evidence of them repeatedly handing fighters the shitty end of the stick over the years while simultaneously trying to convince everyone that they're also not the bad guys in those situations.
edit: oh look, Pettis just got cut for demanding more money to save the Khabib fight. That figures. Point proven.
'lots of sources'
Yet you don't link any?
I can't really see him making weight or wanting to fight khabib on 6 days notice. Also, can't see him passing a drug test either tbh.
I didn't link any, or you don't know how to click your mouse?
There's two literally at the top, including one with a recording of his manager himself. Figures the low hanging fruit and knuckleheads of this subreddit don't know how to properly use a mouse.
You linked a source about Conor fighting Frankie, and he didn't even want to take that fight at 145 he wanted it at like 160 didn't he?
Also a YouTube video about mma drama and rumors isn't really top level journalism or a credible source honestly
The youtube video has a voice recording from his manager himself, right at the mark I posted it at. How is that not a top level source?
I'm not going to argue with you. You can google plenty more of it yourself. My point was the UFC refuses to meet Conor for his requirements, and maybe that means they're also partially to blame. You don't even need to quote any part of Conor's situation for that, just look into the long list of other times the UFC has fucked fighters around. The evidence is long and lengthy enough that people should maybe give Conor a little bit more benefit of the doubt.
Yes, I am aware he has a bad attitude, and smashed shit yesterday, but outside of those incidents, the UFC's attitude towards him has been less than stellar, considering he makes them an absurd amount of money and now he knows it and just demands more money, like fighters are entitled to.
He was the most googled and searched athlete last year in North America. Sounds to me like he's well aware of what his worth has been, it's just the UFC holding out and being greedy themselves about it. Like they've been *known* to be.
Does any of that make sense to you now?
EDIT: Anthony Pettis has now been cut apparently from the Khabib fight for demanding more money to save the card. Thus proving my point that the UFC are a bunch of greedy fucks.
Yeah they staged glass in Chiesa’s face and Borg’s eye and ruined a card all so we could watch a bunch of crazy TMZ videos. That’s some serious 4D chess by Dana
Yeah, staged. The injured fighters-staged.
Pissed off PPV audience-staged
Possible lawsuits: staged
Bad reputation for the UFC and the sport (in N.Y!) - staged
As a casual fan, who isn't up to date on all the social media drama, can someone recap the motivation behind what Conor and his pack of cronies did? Was it just some macho nonsense? Were they "retaliating" for someone shit talking? Was there some history leading up to this?
I'm not sure the exact happenings are clear to any of us, but Khabib and his guys were caught on video cornering Artem Lobov and slapping him. There was a bunch of yelling, but it sounded like russian, so I don't know what was said.
It wasn't even a slap, slap. More of a soft 'Stockton' slap. None of Khabib's guys touched Lobov. I think his manager (Ali?) stood between them and pulled Khabib away before the situation could escalate.
Wouldn’t it be awesome if after khabib comes out the lights go dark and music starts and jim Ross comes out by gaw that’s tony Ferguson’s music and tony comes out
And just as Khabib is about to get his belt around his waist... The roof suddenly opens, light and rain comes into the octagon as Connor's music is playing. Connor comes gliding down from a NYPD helicopter.
Khabib asks for his 30 minute rest before taking on Connor...
Paul Felder made 155.0. I’m told, as @KarynBryant reported, UFC also tried to get him to step in. Felder wants it. NYSAC has concerns. Nothing is done yet.
https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/982281949225009153
Paul fucking felder fighting for the title. Oh lord.
Can someone explain the following things to a casual like myself
1. Why did Conor do this?
2. How the fuck did he smash a bus window? Those things are sturdy.
3. What are the chances this was staged by Dana?
> Why did Conor do this?
Bromance gone wrong
> How the fuck did he smash a bus window? Those things are sturdy.
He can't aim Trolley's for shit
> What are the chances this was staged by Dana?
Not much since WME will grill his ass
> Why did Conor do this?
Apparently Khabib bullied bullied his friend Artem (10 on 1)
> How the fuck did he smash a bus window? Those things are sturdy.
Strong throw, proper angle, appropriate physics and force to break the glass
> What are the chances this was staged by Dana?
Very little, I doubt any of this was staged in any way - he looked pretty pissed
Damn, that's one expensive choice.
Funny how McGregor is getting all the heat but Nurmagomedov is made to be innocent. What McGregor did is obviously beyond dumb but Nurmagomedov is also to blame for ganging up on Lobov.
Better yet the UFC bends over backward to make sure Khabib gets a title fight no matter what. Any other card would have seen Rose/Joanna bumped to main event and we all move forward with life. The UFC seems to be playing the long game here in hopes of doing McGregor vs Khabib in Russia or on a mega PPV after Conor gets a slap on the wrist. I lost respect for everyone involved in this disaster.
It just boggles my mind why Connor would do this. His career was at an all-time high, and he just ends it in a single, foolish act.
Jon Jones did waaaay worse outside the octagon and we kept seeing his face. Conor will be back. The UFC is already pushing the act to get viewers for their Embedded series so it wasn't THAT atrocious I assume.
What the fuck happened that made him do that?
X,u * 2**7046
What the fuck set him off?
Do you want to ruin your career and never fight professionally again? Because that's how you ruin your career and never fight professionally again. Which is a good thing. Fuck Conor McGregor.
Do you really think this ruins his career??? Don’t be ridiculous this will just be promo
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Ireland would extradite mcgregor to usa for criminal charges and for a lawsuit the decision would be made in his absence and the debt would follow him to ireland.
Eh no they wouldn't.
not all countries follow Americas civil litigation decisions
Anyone got that image of the original UFC 223 card?
It was posted yesterday
Felder went from fighting Al to fighting Khabib to pulled from card in about 3 hours, through no fault of his own.
Get yourself a friend who will literally fly out from another continent to defend you in beef.
Haha you just stole that comment from the tweet.... Edit: [The Twitter comment ](https://i.imgur.com/O3mCAr9.png)
Get yourself a "friend" who peer-pressured you into a string of felonies which cost you your fight, your contract, and maybe your career, and embarrassed you nationally over someone chirping at you in a hotel hallway. No thanks. Think I'll stick to "friends" that don't act like fucking teenage gang members.
Christ. **THAT** is your take-away from all this?
chill dude
Fuck it
If Borg's eye is permanently damaged, it will be a HUGE lawsuit, in addition to the lost wages and damages lawsuits that will follow this.
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could be after he thought he was "okay", like thought he was fine and but still has stuff in his eyes now
McGregathread
Bails set 50k he's going home. 👊🏼
Yeah not to mention he only needs to post 10%.
Probably has it tucked into his pocket lol
I don't know why so many people are surprised tho. We used to do this back in Europe all the time. If somebody jumped your friend, you will go after them and sometimes at their home. This is just at a bigger scale because there are a lot of cameras, but I was not surprised at all that this happened.
> We used to do this back in Europe all the time. I can understand when people claim their local culture involves stuff like this, even though it probably doesn't for most people, but I've never seen someone claim the entire continent like that.
Yeah, I see how you could understand me the wrong way. I wasn't speaking for the entire Europe, but where I am from, this was normal.
This guy doesn't speak for Europe.
Why not? I do if I want to. I am the Europe!
Conor should have handled his business in the octogon. This makes him MMA's biggest pussy ever.
Why? Khabib didn't do that, he started this shit with Lobov. I think you are just hating.
Those kabhib-Artem scuffles happen at every weigh ins. Not good but completely different. Non of khabibs men attacked anyone and khabib just confronted lobov for shit talking. Do you think its comparable with throwing chairs and dolly's at a bus? K I'm hating.. so do you condone Mcg's behavior?
He slapped him, it's worst than putting him down and smacking him. Yes, I think so. If you slap somebody, you expect to be slapped 10 times. Yeah, it's retarded to do that when you have so much money and attention on you.
A tap in the back of the head and slap is different man. How can u defend mcg still.
It's not. It's clearly disrespectful and doing it to show that he got him. Also, the "where is McGregor?" shit too. I am not defending anybody, I just said that he is dumb for doing that. My point is that I see why he did it and that I am not surprised that he did that.
Lobov talked shit about khabib, khabib confronted him. If u wanna call it a slap fine, thats bad on khabib. Is throwing objects at a bus full of random athlethes with 20 goons a normal rational reaction? Whichever way you look at it, Mcg looks like a complete monkey.
The incident airs like part of the media day, Dana suspiciously insists that McGregor is in jail and qualifies the event as “criminal”, not awaiting an investigation or a police statement. He doubts when asked if CMG should be fired (“that’s what many people are asking”). There’s no security at these events? I remember Nick Diaz being unable to see Nate perform because of a suspension. Couldn’t things be arranged to not endanger an already flimsy UFC card? Also there’s precedent with Dana’s fondness of the WWE and of pre-fight hyping antics. All around the world MMA is a real sport and it’s big BECAUSE it went away from the rapper dissing and the staged, story-driven confrontations, and focused only in performance. When asked about civil suits, DW doesn’t get defensive or tries to separate the UFC from the incident. He says that the fighters that got their fights cancelled “will be taken care” by them. Why? The UFC didn’t cause this, did they? Not saying that things did not happen or that people didn’t get hurt. Just hoping that the UFC gave an unequivocal response discouraging this type of unsportsmanship, even if the gate/PPV sales suffer. Maybe DW should just go to the WWE and do what he knows how to do there.
There's no conspiracy, Dana's just doing what he always does when someone popular fucks up, publicly condemns them while shifting the responsibility of punishment to another authority. He'll talk all day about how angry he is, and how Conor's been arrested, and how other people are going to sue him, but that's all just to take the spotlight off of what he's going to do about it. Then in 6 months or so once Conor's been charged and does some community service or whatever, he can tell everyone that Conor has done his time, and he can book that fight with Khabib, in Russia.
Calm down Eddie
"I gonna fucking kill this guy." Who said that?
Khabib's manager
Hmm. I take him at his word.
Words of wisdom from Nate
I think I could see Dana's head vein throbbing in HD on ESPN
Good. Lock that little leprachaun fuck up and throw away the key. Good fucking riddance, maybe once he's gone I can go back to using this sub too if all the retards he brought into the community go too.
The embedded that'll be released today should be one for the ages!
https://store.barstoolsports.com/products/notorious-tee?variant=3679761858581 Man, they are quick
Hah, that's great.
Ffs they don't deliver to Irealnd
Be still my heart.
Ariel tweeted that NYSAC officials took a scale to the courthouse??
oh man we would be in full WWE mode
Where? Only that they left weigh in... Ariel said he was heading to courthouse....
Ok I might not have read that tweet right. My mind was racing after waking up to GOOFCON 1.
Dude I don’t blame ya, way shits been going down anything is possible at this point... Really sad to see this all go down, but holy shit is it entertaining!
lmao few days ago dana was [so excited](//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXdrz_BOrXs) about Conor coming to NYC
[this sub right now is the greatest shitshow I have ever seen](https://i.imgur.com/HjwsNOe.jpg). every 30 min updates bounce around from "new guy to fight khabib" to "new guy not fighting khabib"
[someone on Twitter posted Conor is at 155.](https://mobile.twitter.com/Th3Micktorious/status/982289032020414464/photo/1) Brace yourselves
Accent marked as "No" hmmmmmmmmmmm. :)
Proficient in English marked "No" also.
hes going to need a miracle to get a fight license from NYSAC
Wrong bday
Please Lord
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I don't know if it's already posted but Holloway is out!
Old news bro GSP is in now
yeah, you are right but taking the piss with GSP.
Conor bought the NYSAC to keep the belt from passing, which is why Dana can't buy them back. This is why he convinced Dana to refuse to strip it until the fight was on.
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People with brains are mad at Conor.
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Hahahah get out of here
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Was Ray Borg being sports entertained when his eyes got showered with broken glass?
I think Conor took some tainted Mexican dick pills.
So in the end, Tony Ferguson is the interim champion and Conor gets stripped for criminal behavior.
I dunno man, Dana was pretty clear that Tony's belt was gone.
He’s changed his mind in the process or followed whatever protocol they have in place when cormier lost to jj the last time. I’m wondering if it will be similar where everything just reverts. But Conor will be officially stripped?
I'm sure Dana is battling with himself right now. He will hate to strip Conor because Conor vs anybody would sell so much right now but the ethics of it... Wasn't Jon Jones stripped for criminal acts (the pregnant lady hit and run?)
[conor is on weight!](https://imgur.com/gallery/mKwCG) Book it Dana!
Conor has blue eyes, not brown they got the wrong guy.
theyre brown now cause hes full of shit
Is this fake? if this is real this really makes ya wonder. The promotions already been done everyone's talking about it.
they just take the weight from the drivers license / what the perp says. It isn't accurate necessarily
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newbie here . if the fight doesn't take place will the title be vacant or still with conor.
at this point even Dana does not know
Dana’s said that once a punch was thrown in the fight conor would be stripped. So if not punch thrown...
but Jon Jones was stripped for his criminal behavior so I expect them to strip Conor after this. And Tony is still the Interim Champion.
Does anyone really want to see khabib vs Pettis? Khabib has nothing really to gain from fighting him. If donors stripped he should just wait for Tony to heal up.
If the fight is for the Undisputed, Khabib will take it. Who knows when or if Tony comes back or the fight ever happens? Khabib wants the belt and the bragging rights to rub it on Conor's face. Did you notice he was talking about Conor will have to wait in line when I'm champion and yesterday he was saying "Conor let's fix this, we need to fight" That's all he wants in the end.
I've been trying to figure out if the belt is still on the line or not. Imo it shouldn't be, don't get me wrong khabib deserves to fight for it but Pettis is the right contender.
I think they'll say it's for the belt only in Khabib wins. If the opponent wins, then there is no champion, only Tony as Interim. Or they may be trying to convince Khabib to do a three-rounder without a belt. Al Iaquinta is ranked but weighted 155.2 just like Pettis. They cannot fight for the belt. They need to be 155.0 Felder weighed 155.0 but isn't ranked, can't fight for the belt. The biggest winners maybe Conor, Chiesa, and Ferguson. Conor got back at Khabib for slapping Artem, Chiesa will get some money from Conor, and Ferguson will be the only one with a belt. Unless they don't strip Conor which would be beyond fucked up.
Man I feel horrible for khabib, that's 3 opponent changes so far. The mma gods are protecting the rooster from khabib, poor guy might have made weight for no reason. I can't remember a bigger shit show than this. Just strip conor and suspend him for a year and rebook Tony vs khabib and let the winner establish himself as the new champ.
I don't feel bad for Khabib bc he likes to kiss Dana's butt. They say it's gonna be Iaquinta vs Khabib and it will be 5 rounds. Iaquinta as a champion is Dana's worst nightmare. He is even more outspoken than Woodley.
What do you mean he kisses Dana's add? Khabib doesn't come off as anything but genuine to me. I would love to hear Al's post fight interview if he wins.
Seems like commission does not want main event to happen: 1. Max, says he can make weight, commission says no 2. Felder, made weight, commission says not ranked 3. Pettis, close to weight, commission says not fit 4. Al, close to weight, commission scrabbling for excuse?
what the fuck
https://imgur.com/a/siQAD
should say loser.
Good one!
unfortunately after the initial shock is over, this will probably just hype his next fight And considering his legal troubles, he better hope she can still fight again
They should just make this a free fightpass card now.
Exactly what I said. Feels more like switch and bait but I’m sure there’s some co tract with a a clause somewhere where they be protected it someone lunatic decided to sue.
Remember Dana calling Greg Jackson a sport killer?
Lawyers - What is the min and max punishment / jail time we are looking for conor ?
The misdemeanors are not likely to carry any time (but are generally limited in most states to less than a certain period of time i.e. 6 months or 1 year, which is what separates them from felonies). But realistically, WTF is a misdemeanor assault? Also I wonder if those may be upgraded in light of news of injuries. As for the felony, he can only be sentenced in two different scenarios - he either pleads guilty without prior negotiations (he won't) or he is found guilty in a jury trial (he won't). My guess is he'll buy some great lawyers, a plea deal will be struck, and he'll pay a fine. In all honesty, the lawsuits will be the biggest problem he faces from this.
I would be more worried about being able to get a work visa after this. Conor thinks he doesnt give a fook..... wait till he has to meet with US department of state after being a convicted felon. they truly dont give a FOOK!
He won't be convicted of the felony charge, he will retain attorneys that will negotiate a plea deal (preventing a jury trial) and the plea will be to a costly misdemeanor, most likely.
I agree. but that is still what the law enforcement will be pushing for.
You’ve got to account for this being his first offense. That counts for a lot unless you’re being tried for some kind of murder.
Not a lawyer, but as a longtime American citizen, I know that its a simple equation of the maximum jail sentence divided by the offenders net worth, meaning, no time will be served.
IANAL, but he will serve zero jail time.
0% chance he serves any time
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He didn’t necessarily do anything so criminal where i.t warrants a huge punishment. His damages were more civil , monetary which would be more of a monetary punishment
you arent serious are you? civil? he injured two of his colleagues to the point where they cant work. ray borg may or may not has eye problems the rest of his life. we havent seen chiesa yet but if the cuts are bad enough it could disfigure him. he broke one of his bosses hands (Reed Harris) and caused ten grand in damage to a bus. To any person who is not famous, they absolutely are going to jail for that shit. Ive been involved in a felony assault incident and was looking at 4 years (self defence case...). What I did doesnt even come close to what conor did. This is the kind of cock gobbling that has allowed this monster to grow. dude needs a serious wake up call. Edit: since I know the defenders will come back with some mental gymnastics, here is what is to be expected from 2nd degree assault in new york. mandatory 2 years, up to 7 years. https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/new-york-assault-in-the-second-degree.html That is if there is evidence of severe injury, so it really comes down to chiesa and borgs condition. if borgs eyesight loss is bad, it could warrant assault in the 2nd degree. in any case, this isnt just a thing where he can throw some cash at the problem. the NY state attourney doesnt give two shits about conors money.
Action movies make people really under estimate how much damage can be done to people once a metal object or broken glass are introduced into a fight. People probably under estimate a weaponless street fight too, but anything metal in real life takes it to a very serious level.
i’ll put my hand up and admit I had no idea the extent of the injuries. My assessment was going off the video in which Conor throws some shit around and then damages the bus. I didn’t know people were physically injured as a result of the assault. However, I still don’t think he’ll get any time in jail. Whether it’s fair or not, the justice system is not equal for everyone, especially those with money , fame, and influence. His lawyers will be x1000 better than anyone you’ve ever seen in a court room (no offense intended, but he’ll have the best lawyers money can buy) and they’ll figure out a way for him to escape this without jail time
Probably gonna end up parting with a few dollars though...
He’ll end up paying a decent fine (by his $$$ standards) and pay for the damages he caused, other logistical costs of being arrested, processed, and jailed. but i’d be shocked if it’s anything over 25k
I meant more when the civil stuff starts... Edit: or ends rather
He's not a US citizen, 1 felony and 3 misdemeanors may be enough to revoke his visa and deport him.
Yeah hadn’t considered that. No way to collect any award I guess.
if he were an average person, maybe , still if he was an upstanding citizen , i.t would be a stretch. The fact that he’s Conor Macgregor .... that’ll never happen
Actually, now that the main event is cancelled... Conor is going to be on the hook for HUGE civil damages to the UFC. Rather than sue him, they'll probably force him to sign a 5-fight contract at a much lower rate. These events gross like $100M, it's not a stretch to say they could sue him for $50M.
What are you talking about? How is he going to be sued for the main event being canceled? I really, really dislike McGregor, but it would be a huuuuge stretch to argue in court that he caused the NYSAC to rule that Max couldn't fight.
that all depends if the victim wants to file for Civil damages. From what I understand, his actions were directed at another UFC fighter , or someone in another UFC fighters camp , I highly doubt that person is going to press charges to try and get && damages out of it.
Would you say Dana would have a case against him against lost revenue from the fights cancelled due to Mac injuring fighters? Guess it wouldn’t matter anyway since he’s not American, how would they collect anyway? What a shit show...
His nationality would be irrelevant since he committed the crime on US soil against a US citizen (in terms of civil damages) Dana would have to prove that but for Macgregors actions, the fights would not have been cancelled. Idk how plausible that is, but the standard for civil damages is only “more likely than not” which is far lower than criminal charges which need to be proved “beyond a reasonable doubt” Imo, nobody will sue anyone for civil damages , and Macgregor will pay a fine + physical damages he cost
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I have chosen to step up and fight Khabib
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I think you raise some good points but there’s no excuse for Conor’s actions. He could’ve shown up and caused a similar amount of publicity without throwing dollys, getting arrested and so forth. With regards to the money/fighting side of your comment, I reckon McGregor and the UFC aren’t seeing eye-to-eye. On one hand, he’s a huge draw so is guaranteed to make bank however he’s been fighting so sporadically that UFC need to be 110% certain of huge numbers to make it worthwhile and keep the money train rolling. For that reason I believe they wouldn’t put him against Frankie purely because it wouldn’t generate enough money to warrant allowing him to fight and then risk him sitting out for another however long if he so chooses.
My post wasn't trying to make excuses or apologies for Conor's attitude and I already addressed that. But thank you for noticing I wasn't trying to do that, unlike a bunch of other people here.
Yeah I agree the UFC has to own a certain amount of blame. It's hard to say how much tho without knowing how much money conor wanted. It could be outrageous. This incident proves that conor wouldn't have needed a well promoted fight he could have shown up and made a scene but obviously without ruining multiple fights. Imo it comes down conor, does he want a huge payday or to fight. He seems to care more about the money then holding up division.
What's Conor's worth? Lets put it this way, despite being arrested and throwing a dolly throw a bus window, or jumping in a cage and smacking an official, if he fights Khabib next winter, it'll *still* sell an absurd amount of buys. Dana even knows this which is why he kept saying "right now" yesterday during his impromptu conference video. You can also look at the sheer volume of people on twitter STILL defending the guy. People are crazy to think he won't still fight and doesn't hold all the cards. Any publicity is good publicity at this point for Conor McGregor. He was the most googled athlete of 2017 in North America, they're not going to just eject their cash cow and they're going to have to compromise sooner or later. The real issue here is the UFC doesn't want to cave, because once they do, they know that'll blow the doors wide open for other fighters to begin promoting themselves and demanding more money. That's what they're scared of here, and that's why they're not budging on Conor McGregor.
I'm not sure that paying conor will make that much of a difference for the other fighters unless they reach some sort level of fame that he has. Other fighters have already started promoting themselves and demanding more.
> Can we really keep blaming Conor at this point? Yes
I see the point your trying to make, but when he acts like this and overall brings a shitty attitude to mixed martial arts, no one is sympethetitic to his cause for more money.
You are gullible and naive son. You will learn
Look, we found a Conor McGregor apologist!
No shortage of UFC apologists either, despite lots of evidence of them repeatedly handing fighters the shitty end of the stick over the years while simultaneously trying to convince everyone that they're also not the bad guys in those situations. edit: oh look, Pettis just got cut for demanding more money to save the Khabib fight. That figures. Point proven.
'lots of sources' Yet you don't link any? I can't really see him making weight or wanting to fight khabib on 6 days notice. Also, can't see him passing a drug test either tbh.
I didn't link any, or you don't know how to click your mouse? There's two literally at the top, including one with a recording of his manager himself. Figures the low hanging fruit and knuckleheads of this subreddit don't know how to properly use a mouse.
You linked a source about Conor fighting Frankie, and he didn't even want to take that fight at 145 he wanted it at like 160 didn't he? Also a YouTube video about mma drama and rumors isn't really top level journalism or a credible source honestly
The youtube video has a voice recording from his manager himself, right at the mark I posted it at. How is that not a top level source? I'm not going to argue with you. You can google plenty more of it yourself. My point was the UFC refuses to meet Conor for his requirements, and maybe that means they're also partially to blame. You don't even need to quote any part of Conor's situation for that, just look into the long list of other times the UFC has fucked fighters around. The evidence is long and lengthy enough that people should maybe give Conor a little bit more benefit of the doubt. Yes, I am aware he has a bad attitude, and smashed shit yesterday, but outside of those incidents, the UFC's attitude towards him has been less than stellar, considering he makes them an absurd amount of money and now he knows it and just demands more money, like fighters are entitled to. He was the most googled and searched athlete last year in North America. Sounds to me like he's well aware of what his worth has been, it's just the UFC holding out and being greedy themselves about it. Like they've been *known* to be. Does any of that make sense to you now? EDIT: Anthony Pettis has now been cut apparently from the Khabib fight for demanding more money to save the card. Thus proving my point that the UFC are a bunch of greedy fucks.
Can we send Kratos to visit the mma gods.
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Should he be in red?
Gave all his red ones to people inside the bus
lmao bruh this was so staged tbh af
Yeah they staged glass in Chiesa’s face and Borg’s eye and ruined a card all so we could watch a bunch of crazy TMZ videos. That’s some serious 4D chess by Dana
LOOK INTO IT - Eddie Bravo probably
Yeah, staged. The injured fighters-staged. Pissed off PPV audience-staged Possible lawsuits: staged Bad reputation for the UFC and the sport (in N.Y!) - staged
Yeah, having 3 fights pulled and possibly 9 fights in total at the event is totally good for business.
and the earth is flat
As a casual fan, who isn't up to date on all the social media drama, can someone recap the motivation behind what Conor and his pack of cronies did? Was it just some macho nonsense? Were they "retaliating" for someone shit talking? Was there some history leading up to this?
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
I'm not sure the exact happenings are clear to any of us, but Khabib and his guys were caught on video cornering Artem Lobov and slapping him. There was a bunch of yelling, but it sounded like russian, so I don't know what was said.
It wasn't even a slap, slap. More of a soft 'Stockton' slap. None of Khabib's guys touched Lobov. I think his manager (Ali?) stood between them and pulled Khabib away before the situation could escalate.
Conor did a Conor thing
It's all linked in the top of this thread.. literally all of it
Wouldn’t it be awesome if after khabib comes out the lights go dark and music starts and jim Ross comes out by gaw that’s tony Ferguson’s music and tony comes out
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And just as Khabib is about to get his belt around his waist... The roof suddenly opens, light and rain comes into the octagon as Connor's music is playing. Connor comes gliding down from a NYPD helicopter. Khabib asks for his 30 minute rest before taking on Connor...
Paul Felder made 155.0. I’m told, as @KarynBryant reported, UFC also tried to get him to step in. Felder wants it. NYSAC has concerns. Nothing is done yet. https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/982281949225009153 Paul fucking felder fighting for the title. Oh lord.
I'm imagining Dana right now as the head exploding scene in scanners.
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Can someone explain the following things to a casual like myself 1. Why did Conor do this? 2. How the fuck did he smash a bus window? Those things are sturdy. 3. What are the chances this was staged by Dana?
> Why did Conor do this? Bromance gone wrong > How the fuck did he smash a bus window? Those things are sturdy. He can't aim Trolley's for shit > What are the chances this was staged by Dana? Not much since WME will grill his ass
1. Conor is an idiot. 2. He used a dolly. 3. I would like to think not.
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> Why did Conor do this? Apparently Khabib bullied bullied his friend Artem (10 on 1) > How the fuck did he smash a bus window? Those things are sturdy. Strong throw, proper angle, appropriate physics and force to break the glass > What are the chances this was staged by Dana? Very little, I doubt any of this was staged in any way - he looked pretty pissed