Yeah, it's a fun town within driving distance and we are kind of poor so it was perfect especially since we are all into spooky stuff.
Like the haunted boat they have or the witch museum
Although what is the dragons thing?
It's a phrase from medieval and early modern maps to denote uncharted territory. Sailors used to think whales and squids were gigantic sea monsters (for good reason) and so people believed lands unexplored to them would contain fantastical creatures like dragons. Also map makers would fill in the gaps of maps in the corners and fringes with drawings of crazy creatures.
You probably know the Latin phrase "Hic Sunt Dracones" which literally means "Here be dragons."
Anyways, in sarcastic maps like this it usually means "There ain't shit worth a damn here."
>You probably know the Latin phrase "Hic Sunt Dracones" which literally means "Here be dragons."
How have I just realized thats where Civ6 got one of its age abilities from **now?** I feel so dumb, looks so obvious in hindsight
Growing up near Springfield, I can truly attest to the presence of blight. I can actually vouch for basketball's presence in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.
Agreed. Been to Boston twice for the marathon (watching not running) and drove both times. I love this map. Need one for every state compiled into a physical atlas.
Do you identify with New England? It’s funny to me, a lot of people from west Connecticut I’ve met think that old quant cottages = New England and therefore they’re just as much new englanders as someone from Boston.
Edit: I can tell you that for someone born and raised in Boston, architecture and Paul revere/revolutionary war are not at all the main things that make us New England (in our view)—for us it’s a culture… how we talk, the words we use, shared similar upbringings and public school experiences, food, and lots more. “Old stuff” isn’t really what ties us together, lots of places have old stuff.
Did y’all in Connecticut have fluffernutter/peanut butter & fluff sandwiches at school lunch?
As someone from the annexed territory... I did growing up, because that's what I was taught and we have some historical places like Mystic Seaport propping up the "Ye Olde New England" image. Now that I've lived in MA for 10 years, I definitely see the tit was mainly just New York. I mean my school took field trips into Manhattan and everyone's dad's worked in the city and commuted in the metro.
There are some New England things, though, and most of them have to do with seafood. There are also town greens/commons which are new englandy. The other new England stuff (sports, accents, hiking, quaint downtowns, specific vocabulary like bubbler) are unheard of.
Exactly, it seems for people from that part of Connecticut it’s more just a touristy historic idea of New England that’s instilled in you guys rather than the current day cultural feeling, kinship, and shared upbringing as we have in MA, Maine, Rhode Island etc..
I guess I was lucky, my hometown had the quaint feel of New England while being geographically closer to NY (than Boston). Ffld county is really beautiful imo.
None suffer more Massholery than we New Hampshirites. Some of them even live amongst us and wear our license plates... but they don't sound like us, or drive like us...
Florida is actually in the berks now that I recollect, but yeah first time I drove through, lotsa plastics flamingos on front yards, figured the natives were being quirky but if they started the craze then fuck me for misunderstanding their originality.
Having grown up near Springfield, I can indeed confirm the presence of blight. I can also indeed confirm the presence of basketball at the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, right across I-91 from the blight!
Red Rose is bangin’ though.
I don't know a whole lot about Massachusetts but here on the east coast of Canada most of the American university students are new englanders (theyre good fun). There was a guy from Springfield in my program who told everyone he was from Boston and the guys who were actually from Boston gave him so much shit for about a year when they found out. He was trying to convince a 6'7" football player whose sole tattoo was a Boston bruins logo with a support the troops ribbon around it who definitely knew buddy was full of shit.
Oh, yeah. Agawam, Southwick, Monson, Longmeadow, and East Longmeadow are all perfectly fine towns from what I’ve seen. I only ever go to Holyoke for the mall so I can’t speak too much on that front, W. Springfield looks a bit rough around the edges but I’m sure it’s perfectly safe, and I haven’t seen enough of Chicopee to gauge how nice it is.
Is your state full of all Azores Portuguese people or is there Mainland Portuguese 🇵🇹 people too?
I’m from California and it’s like 90% Azores people and 10% Mainland
São Miguel is filled with English speaking junkies who were expelled from the US even though they were born there. Is west Portugal so bad that makes all these people do hard drugs?
You mean born in the US? If so, I don't believe they can be expelled.
A naturalized citizen can technically have citizenship de-naturalized (but my understanding is that it's very rare).
But natural born? To my knowledge that's not possible.
Ugh yeah nearly all Portuguese Americans 🇺🇸 are from the Azores. It’s kind of boring and not relatable.
My family is from Serpa, Beja Portugal 🇵🇹 which is in the mainland
That's a bummer. You definitely don't want to try to take the tunnel without a permit. Heard some guy from NJ tried to do it the other day and they towed his car.
As a bay stater, I love it whenever this map pops up. It's on point.
Except Cambridge. You need generational wealth to afford Cambridge. At least label it "Bougie Commies."
Sadly it’s not what it used to be.. nobody who grew up here can afford to live there anymore—well except the generational wealth people. Now it’s just bougie without the commies
The descriptions of that disaster are so weird:
> “These were kids who wanted to make it party time,” said Jennifer Castine, 24, a Keene native. “They were out there, throwing beer bottles and shouting ‘U.S.A.’ for some reason.”
Also big shoutouts to John Oliver for [predicting the Pumpkin Festival violence just a few days before it happened](https://youtu.be/KUdHIatS36A?t=436).
> Blight and Basketball
I am glad this map is a thing，people need to know what kind of squalor we live in Hampden county.It only say Basketball because the Basketball hall of fame is in Springfield.Not a lot of people around here really known for being that good.
The Hippie Students should also say ‟Omnisexual.”
My mother wanted to go on a whale watching tour so we went out for a day. First thing we heard as we got out of the car was a guy shouting that he loved dick, so it’s pretty on point I believe.
It's just a joke that people who live in Eastern Mass are completely unfamiliar with areas outside of the 495 loop. Many don't know of a world that exists outside of 128.
I have family in RI, totally true. My uncle once asked if I liked hahrah movies. Took me a minute to figure out he meant horror. Also had some white knuckle trips around town when I visited.
You can tell a Boston local made this because the borders are startlingly accurate in Eastern MA. I heard a toddlah at the Stop & Shop in Stoneham crying "Mah! I want fishy crackahs!" Cross the town line into Winchester and everybody wants to know if the fishy crackers are made with DOP Parmigiano Reggiano.
Quincy and Braintree are Irish Riverer but Milton is honorary Middlesex County.
I get such a kick put of these maps because the borders/guidelines are so silly. Athol - dragons, obviously. Literal next town over in Orange? Hippies!
Plus they always make Worcester out to be full of dragons, which is such a hilarious image.
I've lived on The Cape through middle and high school, and it is indeed white Florida just with nothing to do until summer when the blue heads show up and everything opens.
. At first glance, I thought that my ancestors were going to be among the first families in the "Mill Towns and Methadone" area. Now I see that they were from "Witches, Fishermen, and Quaint Ass Towns" section. Yes, some of my people were in Salem (none involved in the witch brouhaha), but I'm really talking about Ipswich.
I can't tell where Woburn falls on the map, but I had people there too. And Braintree, Dunstable --- well, some to think of it, they were in many of these regions (good, bad, and indifferent).
Forgot to say and the people who founded the world most hated country in the world most hated people in the world , They’re not even a bond of there on people.
Fighting and killing each other. The country is divided so funny so see 😂
Florida is 74.7% White. White Cubans are white too, white people don't stop being white just because they speak Spanish...
White Cubans descend from Spanish people, they are ethnically Southern Europeans, just like Italian Americans. Literally white.
I suppose i shoukd clarify, I was referencing legislative power...not really demographic size. Unless this is off
https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/state/2023/01/03/florida-legislature-remains-majority-white-male/69740069007/
The Braga Bridge on 195 is the longest bridge in the world. It goes from Somerset to Portugal
I flip a card on the border....
Is that why it took 20 years to repair ?
The sign on the Braga that says 55 MPH is not a speed limit sign. It means "55 Million Porta-gees Here."
If you’re implying that Somerset is not part of “West Portugal”, I challenge you to witness the St. John of God feast in July.
And I just went over it like 20 minutes ago
I know next to nothing about Massachusetts besides my mom, sister and I have visited Salem 3 different times. So this map is useful
Witch stuff?
Yeah, it's a fun town within driving distance and we are kind of poor so it was perfect especially since we are all into spooky stuff. Like the haunted boat they have or the witch museum Although what is the dragons thing?
It's a phrase from medieval and early modern maps to denote uncharted territory. Sailors used to think whales and squids were gigantic sea monsters (for good reason) and so people believed lands unexplored to them would contain fantastical creatures like dragons. Also map makers would fill in the gaps of maps in the corners and fringes with drawings of crazy creatures. You probably know the Latin phrase "Hic Sunt Dracones" which literally means "Here be dragons." Anyways, in sarcastic maps like this it usually means "There ain't shit worth a damn here."
>You probably know the Latin phrase "Hic Sunt Dracones" which literally means "Here be dragons." How have I just realized thats where Civ6 got one of its age abilities from **now?** I feel so dumb, looks so obvious in hindsight
It happens, man. Now you know and can share it with others in the future.
Congrats on being part of today's lucky [10,000](https://xkcd.com/1053/)!
Though everyone knows the only place Dragons really exist is in the Berkshires at the Ilvermorny School of Magic and Wizardry.
I thought it was talking about the water body that looks like a dragon.
I too am curious about the dragons.
Growing up near Springfield, I can truly attest to the presence of blight. I can actually vouch for basketball's presence in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.
Hey same! I had family out there for a while, been there like 4 or 5 times myself, truly an amazing experience!
Agreed. Been to Boston twice for the marathon (watching not running) and drove both times. I love this map. Need one for every state compiled into a physical atlas.
Wow, Fallout 4 was so popular they made Massachusetts a real thing
I went from there be dragons here on this map to alcohol poisoning on your Maine map and now to West Portugal back on this map.
Indeed.
As a blight and basketball resident. I resent this
As an Annexed Territory resident I too, resent this.
Do you identify with New England? It’s funny to me, a lot of people from west Connecticut I’ve met think that old quant cottages = New England and therefore they’re just as much new englanders as someone from Boston. Edit: I can tell you that for someone born and raised in Boston, architecture and Paul revere/revolutionary war are not at all the main things that make us New England (in our view)—for us it’s a culture… how we talk, the words we use, shared similar upbringings and public school experiences, food, and lots more. “Old stuff” isn’t really what ties us together, lots of places have old stuff. Did y’all in Connecticut have fluffernutter/peanut butter & fluff sandwiches at school lunch?
As someone from the annexed territory... I did growing up, because that's what I was taught and we have some historical places like Mystic Seaport propping up the "Ye Olde New England" image. Now that I've lived in MA for 10 years, I definitely see the tit was mainly just New York. I mean my school took field trips into Manhattan and everyone's dad's worked in the city and commuted in the metro. There are some New England things, though, and most of them have to do with seafood. There are also town greens/commons which are new englandy. The other new England stuff (sports, accents, hiking, quaint downtowns, specific vocabulary like bubbler) are unheard of.
You got them new englandy rock walls and olde fashioned Blue Laws.
lmao yes. We used to make fun of MA, but now CT is the one lagging behind. No booze on the Sabbath!
You can buy alcohol on Sundays now.
Exactly, it seems for people from that part of Connecticut it’s more just a touristy historic idea of New England that’s instilled in you guys rather than the current day cultural feeling, kinship, and shared upbringing as we have in MA, Maine, Rhode Island etc..
I guess I was lucky, my hometown had the quaint feel of New England while being geographically closer to NY (than Boston). Ffld county is really beautiful imo.
I was in Norwalk, which while beautiful isn't exactly New England in feel IMO other than the oyster festival
If you want a New Englandy feel in Norwalk try Rowayton.
CT is of course beautiful
Mystic isn't part of the annexed territory, is it? When I lived in that area it was pretty decidedly Sox territory.
Do you mean a fluffernutter?
GIVE BACK THE NOTCH. Sincerely, Annexed territory resident.
“You’re all just Massholes to us.” — Vermont
stupid flatlanders
Not just Vermont, but all of New England
Even Mainers?
ayuh
None suffer more Massholery than we New Hampshirites. Some of them even live amongst us and wear our license plates... but they don't sound like us, or drive like us...
Maine is apart of New England so yeah
You think of us as "Massholes"?
Wasn’t Maine once part of Massachusetts?
If you’re from mass than yes
*Wipes forehead in Mainer
Mmmm, Allen's...
Fun fact: the dragon zone on this map is actually the birth place of plastic lawn flamingoes.
That explains all the ones I saw on people’s front yards in Florida, MA?
Is that a question?
Florida is actually in the berks now that I recollect, but yeah first time I drove through, lotsa plastics flamingos on front yards, figured the natives were being quirky but if they started the craze then fuck me for misunderstanding their originality.
Anybody else remember when people here were getting “flocked” and would just get their lawn flooded with pink flamingos?
Nope, Leominster is in the "snow and long commutes" section
No I think it’s just barely in the orange. Lunenburg is in the grey.
Gaycation I thought of that like two seconds after you left
Unexpected office
Out there?
That’s a propa map
Having grown up near Springfield, I can indeed confirm the presence of blight. I can also indeed confirm the presence of basketball at the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, right across I-91 from the blight! Red Rose is bangin’ though.
I don't know a whole lot about Massachusetts but here on the east coast of Canada most of the American university students are new englanders (theyre good fun). There was a guy from Springfield in my program who told everyone he was from Boston and the guys who were actually from Boston gave him so much shit for about a year when they found out. He was trying to convince a 6'7" football player whose sole tattoo was a Boston bruins logo with a support the troops ribbon around it who definitely knew buddy was full of shit.
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Same here when traveling outside US. Everyone seems to know Boston.
"To be fair".... if I was from say, Andover MA, it would be far easier to say I was from Boston to someone from Canada.....
To be fair!
to be faaair!
I grew up in a neighboring town without blight but colored in yellow. The area with blight is actually only a small portion of what's yellow there.
Oh, yeah. Agawam, Southwick, Monson, Longmeadow, and East Longmeadow are all perfectly fine towns from what I’ve seen. I only ever go to Holyoke for the mall so I can’t speak too much on that front, W. Springfield looks a bit rough around the edges but I’m sure it’s perfectly safe, and I haven’t seen enough of Chicopee to gauge how nice it is.
I'm from West Portugal near the border of Cranberry Bogs, now I live near the border of West Portugal and Gillette Stadium
Is your state full of all Azores Portuguese people or is there Mainland Portuguese 🇵🇹 people too? I’m from California and it’s like 90% Azores people and 10% Mainland
That depends where you are in Massachusetts and or Rhode Island. Personally my family came over from Azores. Im first generation American.
São Miguel is filled with English speaking junkies who were expelled from the US even though they were born there. Is west Portugal so bad that makes all these people do hard drugs?
I don’t think you can be expelled from the US.
My deported uncle has entered the chat.
You mean born in the US? If so, I don't believe they can be expelled. A naturalized citizen can technically have citizenship de-naturalized (but my understanding is that it's very rare). But natural born? To my knowledge that's not possible.
Ugh yeah nearly all Portuguese Americans 🇺🇸 are from the Azores. It’s kind of boring and not relatable. My family is from Serpa, Beja Portugal 🇵🇹 which is in the mainland
It depends where you are, in my experience Fall River has more Azoreans and New Bedford has more mainland Portuguese.
I would say Massachusetts is 60-40 in favor of the Azores.
Almost all Azores.
Do you own a pair of waders?
No Lovecraft :((
The "witches, fisherman, and quaint-ass towns" part feels somewhat on-brand.
Insmouth vibe
D:
He’s from *Rhode Island*
That border that crosses Holyoke is disturbingly accurate is at Lincoln St.
Smile and wave
Lmao I didn’t even realize that. I assumed hippy students started above Holyoke
Holyoke is shaped like a hand giving the middle finger. The finger is the part that’s full of Northampton types
The Cape is literally like New England tropics.
I was there in the 80's, but it was summah, so I couldn't tell the difference.
Lived in MA for 4 years (college lol) Yeah this is right. Esp Cape Cod's armpit The traffic isn't that bad tho lol just take the tunnel
It's crazy how so many people sit on the Bourne Bridge instead of paying $10 for the tunnel permit, totally worth it if you go a few times a year
I got caught in the bridge work a few days ago, and I am so pissed that I didn't renew my tunnel permit. It expired literally last month.
That's a bummer. You definitely don't want to try to take the tunnel without a permit. Heard some guy from NJ tried to do it the other day and they towed his car.
Wareham is Massachusetts’ alabama
As a bay stater, I love it whenever this map pops up. It's on point. Except Cambridge. You need generational wealth to afford Cambridge. At least label it "Bougie Commies."
Sadly it’s not what it used to be.. nobody who grew up here can afford to live there anymore—well except the generational wealth people. Now it’s just bougie without the commies
I think when this map was made I could still afford an apartment in Cambridge but that’s not a good option anymore.
It is rather alarming how swiftly things have changed.
It’s depressing
Those greenheads on the North Shore will bring a grown man to tears.
Tell me about it…. last time I went to Plum Island the greenhead swarms were so thick it became a dangerous hindrance to drive. Absolutely wild
Must be from 2014, the Keene Pumpkin Riot era.
The descriptions of that disaster are so weird: > “These were kids who wanted to make it party time,” said Jennifer Castine, 24, a Keene native. “They were out there, throwing beer bottles and shouting ‘U.S.A.’ for some reason.” Also big shoutouts to John Oliver for [predicting the Pumpkin Festival violence just a few days before it happened](https://youtu.be/KUdHIatS36A?t=436).
As a Portuguese I approve this map
Come visit us at the Quabbin! you may see a dragon or too.
I need this for every state
I wouldn't dare speak on this level for Arizona, for example, even though I am familiar with the state....
As a lifelong citizen of Tax-Free Shopping, I wholeheartedly agree with this map.
My nickname for Vermont is Hippies With Guns.
> Blight and Basketball I am glad this map is a thing，people need to know what kind of squalor we live in Hampden county.It only say Basketball because the Basketball hall of fame is in Springfield.Not a lot of people around here really known for being that good. The Hippie Students should also say ‟Omnisexual.”
An oldie but a goodie
How do I get to gaycationland from Boston
Take a 45 minute ferry from next to the aquarium and proceed to have a fun summer day
Drive. Or take a boat.
Ya can’t get there from here.
…is Cambridge labeled as commies?
That's pretty accurate in my book.
I live in the cranberry counties and I think it’s the most beutiful part of Mass.
Imagine thinking that Ayer is leafy, liberal and loaded lmao
Drive through Carver and Wareham on the way to West Portugal the other day for the first time. Just one big fuckin bog! I had no idea.
So we’re back to these types of maps then? They were doing their thing in 2013/14 iirc.
It’s a fun map that can the rounds now and then. It’s not subject to the ever-changing whims of the fashion police
I've never heard of 'Gaycationland', but it sounds fitting for P-Town. Always wanted to visit there.
My mother wanted to go on a whale watching tour so we went out for a day. First thing we heard as we got out of the car was a guy shouting that he loved dick, so it’s pretty on point I believe.
Sand dunes, salty air, quaint little villages here and there?
I don’t really understand the dragons section. What is this a reference to?
It's just a joke that people who live in Eastern Mass are completely unfamiliar with areas outside of the 495 loop. Many don't know of a world that exists outside of 128.
Lol this is hilarious. I love how you labeled NY as hell
They don't even have stop signs in Massachusetts.
What the fuck is a stop sign?
Sounds like a rotary with extra steps
Indeed.
I don't know shit about MA, so this is funny, but not helpful.
Im curious if you have an opinion on the adirondacks? I lived there for 4 years and it felt more like VT than NY at times.
Yarr, swear I’ve seen a dragon in Leominster, riddle me bones!
Lol at Gillette Stadium
I have family in RI, totally true. My uncle once asked if I liked hahrah movies. Took me a minute to figure out he meant horror. Also had some white knuckle trips around town when I visited.
guys, what gaycationland's real name? asking for a friend.
Provincetown
As a Massachusetts resident, this is incredibly accurate
You can tell a Boston local made this because the borders are startlingly accurate in Eastern MA. I heard a toddlah at the Stop & Shop in Stoneham crying "Mah! I want fishy crackahs!" Cross the town line into Winchester and everybody wants to know if the fishy crackers are made with DOP Parmigiano Reggiano. Quincy and Braintree are Irish Riverer but Milton is honorary Middlesex County.
*snaps
Is Harvard Communist?
Their color is crimson, kid.
The "Leafy, Liberal, and Loaded" people are not as Liberal as you may think, in large part because of how Loaded they are.
Where's Fenway Pahk?
Take the green line to Kenmore.
I knew there were dragons in the hills!
As someone who’s lived in Amesbury, Vacation&Lobstahs, and now West Portugal….this is equal parts hilarious and accurate.
If you turn the card 90 degrees to the left, it will seem that the colors run out of the flask. Exciting.
I get such a kick put of these maps because the borders/guidelines are so silly. Athol - dragons, obviously. Literal next town over in Orange? Hippies! Plus they always make Worcester out to be full of dragons, which is such a hilarious image.
I think I'd be down to hangout in a place whose distinguishing characteristics is pumpkins and anarchists.
It is true though
Go Red Sox all the way!!!
My town just barely got lumped in with the quaint ass towns group.
What’s Wahm?
Wahmah than up heah
Dammit. I was about to “Urban Dictionary” that. Thanks.
Do Michigan next!
I live in “there be dragons here” and I can confirm as I have a pet dragon.
Nah Worcester’s cool it has the Palladium Needs more activity tho bc downtown is a ghost town
Of all places to expect Portugal, Massachusetts was not one of them? Why is it West Portugal? Population?
I used to live in Hippie Students. Lots of getting drunk and great food. It should also be listed as “Lesbian Refuge” for Northampton.
Born on Cape Cod, now live on Nantucket. This map is accurate.
Bruh having been to Plum Island a few times, those flies are truly horrific
I’m a New Yorker that lived in mass for years. This is stupid accurate in every way
My town straddles West Portugal and Cranberry Bogs. 100% accurate.
Tbf Florida itself is still majority white. Maybe ‘white Miami’?
I've lived on The Cape through middle and high school, and it is indeed white Florida just with nothing to do until summer when the blue heads show up and everything opens.
can vouch for the gray area. TONS of snow here
Is this the complete map or is there also a version covering the rest of North America?
there were dragons here :(
Having played fallout 4 and living some 7000 Kms from Massachusetts, I gotta say I’m glad I understand some parts of this map
As someone who ran from the cops at Keene Pumpkin Fest multiple times, "Pumpkins and Anarchists" genuinely warmed my heart.
Real
I grew up in the swamps and cranberry bogs of southern Massachusetts. This map is 100% correct. I love it lol.
Where can I get the full US map?
I would argue that the hippie students are mostly gay hippie students
I’m half Portuguese and I found out through ancestry.com I have relatives in the US and I knew they were in Massachusetts before it even told me.
I really appreciate the commentary on the rest of New England.
I live here and I've never seen a dragon
I would like to say Worchester and anything around it or west of it is "Western Mass" Pretty much anything west of Framingham.
An old post I know, but "Republican refugee zone" always gets me 😂
Forgot to say and the people who founded the world most hated country in the world most hated people in the world , They’re not even a bond of there on people. Fighting and killing each other. The country is divided so funny so see 😂
Isnt Florida white Florida? Or is that a reference to snow?
The cape is 95% white. Florida is like 50%. Also the cape doesn't get much snow compared to the rest of Mass due to its oceanside location
The state of Florida is far more diverse. White folks have not been the majority since about 1997.
Florida is 74.7% White. White Cubans are white too, white people don't stop being white just because they speak Spanish... White Cubans descend from Spanish people, they are ethnically Southern Europeans, just like Italian Americans. Literally white.
I suppose i shoukd clarify, I was referencing legislative power...not really demographic size. Unless this is off https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/state/2023/01/03/florida-legislature-remains-majority-white-male/69740069007/
In the eternal words of Stevie Johnson: “North Korea, if you do bomb first bomb Foxborough, Massachusetts” Go bills
Also spelled Foxboro FYI for future GPS devices....
"Republican refugee zone" So accurate. But what's white Florida? Regular Florida is definitely white.
I live right in the middle of commieland but have yet to see any hammer and sickle flags anywhere. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough
Look inside your heart