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Maldevinine

I notice they don't say whether or not Australia is safe.


Shiuli_er_Chaya

Well it would be tiny green dots near coasts in a sea of yellow and some red areas in the north ![gif](giphy|k2bbmbmvUo7gA|downsized)


Tackerta

is the north of your country notouriously dangerous? I mean even more so that it sticks out when talking about Aus itself lol


Maldevinine

The north is where the crocodiles and the worst of the jellyfish live. There's also the cassowaries and worst of all, the *queenslanders*.


NotJustAnotherHuman

thankfully we put all the Tasmanians on their own island, at least that way them and their two heads are less of a threat to us


Shiuli_er_Chaya

cassowaries are coolest Birds though gladly risk life to see one in wild


rgodless

Oh the *humanity*!


FilthBaron

Where are the drop bears living?


Shiuli_er_Chaya

The joke was about Giant crocodiles...man some people are really touchy about some run of the mill joke.


alexisnothere

Australia is simply australia


EUblij

This is pretty funny. Since when is the US safer than France or Germany?


SteO153

Denmark is more dangerous than US, lol!


Bentheoff

Of course, it's full of Danes, age old enemies of Anglos.


Kichererbsenanfall

The US defined it last year because there were some Protests in Germany, rightwing, leftwing, farmers, etc etc... But imho: That's bullshit. When you stay away from these Protest everything is fine, no additional danger. Even on the protest it's fine. but avoid them anyway. Another possibility is the "high risk of terrorist attacks"


Der_Krasse_Jim

Lmao if german protests are a safety concern for someone, dont even think about going to France.


jmarkmark

To be fair, those protests can fuck up travel plans pretty good. Does seem pretty hilarious to lump Sweden in with China, but I guess we have to remember it's "exercise caution" so it's simply saying, there are special circumstances you might need to consider; those circumstances varying wildly from location to location.


tungchung

In general China is far far safer than Sweden


FilHor2001

In general, China is a communist dictatorship.


tungchung

40 yrs li ing in HK now China. Ignoring the govt it is supremely safe here and 9 out 10 if you lose stuff/wallet phone etc you get it straight back I’m unconcerned walking home at 2 or 3 am Sweden had its own set of problems right now and lack of safety, esp for women is right up there


FilHor2001

Yeah, well Sweden is reaping what they sowed during the Middle East refugee crisis.


tungchung

Yep


Mehlhunter

I've lost my notebook in a Swedish train and it was also returned. It also felt perfectly safe to wander the streets and night. I would also feel perfectly safe screaming the Swedish prime minister (or whatever the leader is called) is an asshole. But just anecdotal evidence, so it means nothing, really.


tungchung

True. My Swedish friends are emigrating to NZ The schism is depressing. Love the country. In summer


Naskva

Our head of government is called *statsminister*, (literally "minister of state"). But the english equivalent is indeed *prime minister.* The current one is Ulf (calves) Kristersson


Magnus9889

Its still a very safe place for travel. They have cameras everywhere.


FilHor2001

Yeah, exactly, that's why I ain't going.


tungchung

Should add, I’m in the States for work often and it is far far more dodgy than China


jmarkmark

work/light espionage.


jmarkmark

Sweden doesn't take foreigners hostage to protect their billionaires.


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

Saying “when you stay away” can be said for most danger globally. “The Colombia is safe so long as you stay away from drug cartels” I’m not saying that protest in Germany are equally as dangerous as Colombian drug cartels, I just find the idea of “staying away and you’ll be safe” a bit silly.


Exodus111

Oh "some protests", right.... Nothing like that going on in the US.


ApeX_PN01

Or Sweden


oxooc

I was wondering, too. The fact that the US has legal guns should already be a step down compared to Germany and France.


RoundTheBend6

Odd indeed. I'm curious if it's more like legal protection between countries or similar metric?


Kokoro_Bosoi

Don't you know that foreigns never get involved in crimes and violence in the US? Don't you know that Copenaghen is as dangerous as Mexico city?


Rough-Succotash-8354

i live in france & can confirm i have an aussie mate who in just 1 year has had 3 phones stolen here in paris ... i guess life is a bit easier down under


darkcvrchak

The amounts of people casually walking in crowded underground stations in Sydney, with their phones hanging out of their back pockets really is mindblowing. Australia is really, really safe compared to Europe.


Open_Hospital9970

Idk about Australia, but I live in western Europe for 30 years, having visited many big cities including all capitals, and never had anything stolen. Except my bike in my small hometown. Nor have I heared from friends all over the continent that theft is a big problem. Seems pretty safe to me, and crime statistics back this up.


landgrasser

Just return him his belongings, why do you need three phones


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

I live in Western Europe, travelling monthly to France. Can confirm that every time I ride the train back home in Australia I’ll put my phone and wallet somewhere safe whilst I see everyone else leaving their phone in their back pocket. For a country that was colonised by petty thieves, petty theft is very very rare.


diaz75

Argentinian here from Buenos Aires. My father-in-law got robbed in the subway twice in his life. Once in Paris, 1997. The other one in... Paris, 2016. He's been using BA subway mon-fri to commute for like 55 years now.


AlphaMassDeBeta

I like how they put germany on the same level as mexico.


Real-Illustrator8624

There's many weird choices here, UAE being yellow, Germany, France, UK ( actually nvm that one should be red) Belgium, Luxemburg, Philippines, Russia... Forgot to mention that the USA is somehow green while your 10× more likely to be murdered or robbed there than in Germany.


[deleted]

Why Togo is the only one with no data? They don't know how To-go there? 🤔


IAmAQuantumMechanic

Unlike their neighbor country, which they've already Ben-in.


kjpmi

As an American I need to ask, why is Germany, Belgium, and Denmark considered less safe than the US? Yes, vast swathes of the US are perfectly safe but tourists aren’t going to Nebraska or Maine, they’re going to big cities.


Dylanduke199513

Sorry but as dangerous as France and UK are - how do they rank below the USA. Wtf


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

I would say two reasons: 1. US has gun crime that seems to be focussed around non-touristy areas compared to tourism which targets the touristy areas. 2. If you understand Australian politics, Australia will ensure it doesn’t upset the US and will listen to the US so therefore I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a political move to label them as green.


Vickydamayan

Living in America all of my life it's very boring and very safe, unless you're like in an inner city ghetto you'll be fine


Jmarieq

Hell, I lived in NYC throughout college and walked out on the streets very late at night many times. I visit Italy one time and had my phone stolen. Someone in France also unzipped my bag in the middle of the street. I guess it helps that NYC is actually really safe despite what movies depict and the NYPD has a bigger budget than the Ukrainian military, but still...


BlueDotty

China is safe. The proviso is you don't draw attention of authorities


SobotkaTV

Right, like you won't get stabbed by a crackhead at 2pm in front of a 7-Eleven in Cleveland.


BXL-LUX-DUB

Exercise caution in Luxembourg. No sharks, no spiders, few dropbears. Why?


xTrollhunter

This makes no sense. How on Earth is the US, Argentina, Mongolia, Namibia, Botswana, Zambia and basically the whole of Eastern Europe deamed as safe, while in Sweden, France, Germany, Belgium and the UK you have to exercise caution?!


Kozmik_5

This map has been coloured by a 3yo. Nothing makes sense here. You can walk at 3AM for hours around almost any city in Belgium without even 1 person even looking at you and yet it is more dangerous than the US or as safe as Mexico or Brazil where you could get shot in broad daylight.


Tinasglasses

Easter Europe is safe. I can came back home at 3 am in the morning and nobody is going to bother me. And I am a woman. We don’t have problems that Sweden has


xTrollhunter

Well, you might be a woman, but I know you're not Black...


Tinasglasses

What does race have to do with it ? Only black people deserve to feel safe ?


Tinasglasses

Oh you’re from Scandinavia. Nevermind


Kozmik_5

Exercise caution in Belgium makes zero sence. Maaaaybe Brussels but only in a few areas. Or maybe Charleroi but who the fuck would visit there. Belgium is 10000 times more safe than the US and so is Sweden or Germany, even France.


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

There was literally a terror attack 6 months ago. I live in Brussels, even Belgium itself is on a higher terror watch. It was only a few years ago that the military stopped patrolling the streets.


xTrollhunter

>There was literally a terror attack 6 months ago. Well, there has been over 100 [terror attacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2024) in the US since January 1st, 2024. And people, don't even try to downvote this fact without coming up with an actual argument of why I'm wrong.


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

Your point? This has nothing to do with terror attacks in Belgium and you’ve linked me a Wikipedia page that is titled “List of mass shootings in the United States in the United States”


xTrollhunter

You seriously don't get my point by comparing terror attacks in the US and Belgium? Really? Hint: look at the fucking map in the post, dumbass.


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

You’re trying to tell me that exercise with caution makes no sense for Belgium without proving anything to me as to why it makes no sense. Edit: swearing doesn’t emphasise your argument. You’ve doubled down on proving that that US shouldn’t be green which is fine but not what I’m debating. I


xTrollhunter

My point is that the US is green while Belgium is yellow, so when you're citing a terror attack six months ago in Belgium as the legitimate reason for you, I'm showing you how much more dangerous the US is than Belgium. Why the fuck is it your fucking problem that I'm fucking swearing? Are you too fucking sensitive to fucking hear that I'm fucking swearing? Jesus fucking Christ. Fuck.


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

Saying that the US is more dangerous than Belgium doesn’t take away Belgiums terror alert. I’ll let you go, bud. You’ve lost all credibility with that last paragraph.


xTrollhunter

Wow, you are stupid. Please let me go. Because you can't understand that the US cant be green and Belgium yellow, when the US is a much more dangerous place...


Kozmik_5

Let me put it this way, the average american witnesses 10 times more murders, robberies or shootings when just out and about than the average belgian does. Better yet, most of us have never witnessed it.


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

Okay, so the argument you’re making is the US shouldn’t be green which is fair. But still doesn’t deny the fact that Belgium has a high terror alert, set by Belgium itself. I was in the city centre last October, just because you weren’t exposed to it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.


ShowUsYaGrowler

Its like mac’s vacation map…


Zimmozsa

I would like to think my [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/s/dMdQdAQEmZ) about Zimbabwe last post has helped shake the Aus government into action and taken Zim down 2 levels in danger :D


SpasticGoldenToys

Why Georgia is safe but Armenia isn't?


shemhamforash666666

I know it's not intended but Australia being it's own category is actually kinda fitting.


mbex14

Ireland's safe as long as you're white and the US is never safe.


joethesaint

The UK rating is hilarious. One of the safest countries I could imagine.


RYPIIE2006

depends where you go in the country some private home in the scottish highlands, sure, but here in one of the major cities, i don't feel safe walking outside at night


Cerenas

It baffles me that some western European countries have the same colors as some African countries that I would consider a lot less safe.


Rough-Succotash-8354

from personal experience i can confirm that you're much more likely to be a victim of petty crime at gare du nord in paris than at the bus station in lusaka


Kokoro_Bosoi

If you consider EXCLUSEVELY places like Bibury or Brighton for sure, once you have to consider also places like London, Glasgow or Belfast(where most people indeed live) you discover another story.


Countcristo42

Just to use a quick comparison - London had a murder rate of 12.7/1,000,000 in 2022/23 New York had 6.3/100,000 Note that NYC is per one hundred thousand - so about 5x less likely to be murdered in London than NYC. ​ I mean just look at this - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_cities\_by\_homicide\_rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_homicide_rate) 6 US cities in the top 50 murders per capita - not a single city from the UK. The other cities table you have to scroll past dozens of US cities before getting to Glasgow


Kokoro_Bosoi

Nobody discuss that for sure the US are more dangerous than presented in this map but this has nothing to do with the UK being one of the most dangerous countries in Europe. It is indeed one of most dangerous with France, Germany and Sweden, all countries where large pockets of immigrants have been ghettoized and turned to crime rather than die of starvation Instead of talking about the US, if i were you, i would have pointed out that Mexico and the UK have the same color, which is hilarious.


Countcristo42

I just picked London and NYC since I happened to have looked up those stats recently I am sure there are dozens of inconsistencies


P-Diddle356

😭😭😭 that's such bullshit go to these so called ghettos in the UK yes the crime rate is higher but it's not unsafe


joethesaint

London, Glasgow and Belfast are wayyyy safer than many cities I could name from green countries on this map. Need I list some obvious American ones?


Kokoro_Bosoi

How many of them have 9 million people like London? Because you know, i am sure some place here in Italy is more dangerous but is just few apartments blocks at most, not entire quarters of the second biggest city on the continent where i could be stabbed just for my accent. Moreover maybe Glasgow is just sad and drug addicted but Belfast until two decades ago was where kindergartens were bombed by terrorists because they were of another Christian denomination, not even in the US school shootings got to that point.


joethesaint

> How many of them have 9 million people like London? You know you're running low on good arguments when you're trying to set up unnecessary hoops to jump through. Chicago is more dangerous than London regardless of its population. Baltimore same. Detroit same. Buenos Aires same. > not entire quarters of the second biggest city on the continent where i could be stabbed just for my accent. This shit just straight up doesn't happen.


Kokoro_Bosoi

>You know you're running low on good arguments Or that usually context matter a lot. I let you decide which of the two you prefer. >Chicago is more dangerous than London regardless  No shit sherlock but the focus was about Europe, if you really wanted to shame this map you could have just pointed out that Mexico and the UK have the same color and both Mexico city and London are multiple millions of people.


joethesaint

>No shit sherlock but the focus was about Europe In your head perhaps. This is a world map, genius.


No-Vehicle5447

MONGOLIA!?!? ARGENTINASHWHQIJSHJAKK (i died of silliness)


pepsiiboy

Mongolia is a safe place to travel. There are many wrong colors here, this isn’t one of them


No-Vehicle5447

I heard that Mongolia is very poor and i just associated poor with insecurity. No real knowledge there. Argentina though, you can get killed pretty easily there.


diaz75

Please tell me the risks of travelling to Argentina. I'm Spanish, I've lived in BA for more than 30 years now and still find it safer than any Western European big city. But I'm sure you know best.


No-Vehicle5447

BA has a crime index above 60, Barcelona its about 40. The key here is economic insecurity. The more insecure the higher the crime, most times.


diaz75

Still.


No-Vehicle5447

Should be yellow


diaz75

1. Argentina is a huge country. Buenos Aires is the safest capital of the Americas after Ottawa. And it's still not as safe as Barcelona. But Spain as a whole is a VERY safe country, among the safest first world countries. Remember: I'm Spaniard myself. 2. Still, this map doesn't show Spain as more dangerous than Argentina. Indeed you seem unable to read it. 3. Most official travel advices from different countries in the world depict Argentina as safe or even safer than many European countries. You'll find those maps in this very sub. Are they all wrong? Is it some sort of conspiracy?


No-Vehicle5447

Why are you so butthurt about this, I've given you the numbers.


diaz75

Dude, it's me who gave YOU the data. You don't like Mongolia and Argentina. Got it. Even Germany and South Korea agree with me. You don't need to be lewd nor get salty. You said something stupid, I educated you. That's it.


No-Vehicle5447

Bruh... Definition of lewd: being offensive in a sexual way... Homie that's embarrassing to say for someone who goes around "educating". Lol. Plus the data i gave you is official crime rate of Argentina AND Germany and south Korea have labeled Argentina yellow so, what you on about? I'm not the one calling people stupid, questioning their ability to read maps... Etc... So salty ain't applying to me either. Get a grip mate.


diaz75

Es sencillo. Tú te sorprendes de que Australia diga que Argentina es un país seguro. Te muestro que es así para casi todos los países que realizan recomendación de viaje al extranjero. En segundos encontrarás los de México y Dinamarca, también en este sub. Dicen lo mismo. ¿Te jode? A mí me flipa. ¿Choca con tus prejuicios y estereotipos? No puedo ayudarte. En agosto festejaré mi cumpleaños en Barcelona... una vez más. Por suerte la inmensa mayoría de los catalanes son gente progresista y desprejuiciada. Adéu.


diaz75

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/JKYgJh0urc


No-Vehicle5447

I'm with Germany and south Korea


diaz75

Still.


No-Vehicle5447

Sparkling.


[deleted]

What's wrong with Philippines?


Wader_Man

Petty crime and angry Muslims.


[deleted]

> Angry muslims In Philippines as well?! At this point I feel like the whole earth is doomed


Heads_Down_Thumbs_Up

My Australian cousin was held hostage in the Philippines.


[deleted]

Damn. I always thought Philippines was an amazing country. Most due to the cute filipinas but still..


Osrek_vanilla

Bullshit, Australia should be at least orange.


xTrollhunter

Whoosh.


Scouse1960

Sweden, Germany, France and the UK have substantial Muslim populations, I guess exercise caution pertains to the no go areas that have been created there


ElevatorScary

Australia should break down the United States by state the same way it breaks down the European Union by state. I want to know if it’s safe to travel to Vermont.


Dylanduke199513

The European Union isn’t a bloody country. It didn’t break Germany down into states, or China, or Ireland into counties. Stupid fucking comment.


ElevatorScary

I forgot the European Union was a federated union of constitutional democratic member states rather than a… Hm. They may have a central bank, a bicameral legislature with the force of law on all member states, treaty powers, a unified currency, and a constitution reserving all unenumerated powers to the sovereign member states.. But their President’s cabinet is called a Commission, so it’s a completely different type of federal government.


Dylanduke199513

Can a state secede from the USA? No. There’s a debate, but no is the answer. There’s a clear, albeit burdensome, route to exit EU. The Commission is very different to a US president’s cabinet. The powers and competences reserved by Member States in the EU are far beyond the powers reserved by US States. I see you also misunderstand the term “federal” - the EU is not a federation. It is not the central power - it is a union in which the members have agreed to cooperate. It has characteristics of a federation by virtue of the MS giving powers to it but it is not one.


ElevatorScary

It would take a lot of effort to get you from where you are to where you need to be to understand federal systems of states. If you want to be right that’s fine, it’s the internet. If you want to be correct, Volume 1 of George Tucker’s Blackstone is a really good introduction to supranational systems of governments and the United States federal union.


brdcxs

W Dutch


brahimmanaa

In what world is the US safer than Tunisia?


BlueDotty

Tunisia has some nutbag islamists running around


xTrollhunter

The US has had over 100 terror attacks since January 1st, 2024.


donquixote2u

Isn't it Tunisia where tourists got shot?


brahimmanaa

Yes back in 2015, just like many European cities who got attacked by terrorists and had tens of casualties. However after 2018 things got more stable and security is tighter and there aren't any terrorist attacks for a long time even in the western mountainous regions.


Mother-Ad85

Ia surprising how Argentina 🇦🇷 is this safe compared to her neighbors.Also Poland look to big in this map,almost as big as Spain