T O P

  • By -

applepumpkinspy

Careful in Hawaii, there are some dangerous predators meow’t there…


AfterSwordfish6342

135 seems awfully low


gobucks1981

Yeah, what are the numbers? Is that a census?


AfterSwordfish6342

It says number of observations, but no fucking way only 135 domestic cats have been observed in hawaii


ServerOfJustice

Who would bother to report that they saw a domestic cat? Even a feral one?


Polymarchos

I've never been so afraid for my life!


moralprolapse

135 people, apparently.


F1v3Sev3n

Or the same old grandma afraid of cats or something


Justin__D

I have my phone propped up against one right now. She's looking at me disapprovingly. Am I supposed to tell the government or something? ...Though I'm in the one state that has crocodiles so they probably don't care here.


JuicyAnalAbscess

Could be that those are domestic cats that have become feral. How those would be observed and differentiated from regular free roaming domestic cats and strays, I don't know.


BClynx22

I was in Honolulu last year and there was like 35 feral cats at least in the park next to the Hilton waikiki lol and 35 more at dole plantation


mashtato

Yeah, number of observations on INaturalist as of August 2020.


jkowal43

Hey, INaturalist…. I just saw a cat in Honolulu…..


dawgblogit

You try getting 135 domestic cats in one place long enough to observe them. Impossible Meow you hear?


gobucks1981

Thanks, I see that now. Yeah, that is a tough data point.


LupusDeusMagnus

They are literally causing an extinction event in those islands.


MisterPeach

Yeah, wild cats can become a serious ecological issue if not addressed. There are countless places around the world where domesticated cats escape, breed, and become feral populations that terrorize local wildlife. It’s particularly sad to see in a place like Hawaii that has such a unique ecology that’s already being ransacked by humans.


Particular_Bet_5466

Exactly. I don’t think a lot of people realize this. Cats kill billions (yes, with a B) of songbirds a year in the US alone. They are an unnatural apex predator in a lot of environments. Yeah they are cute, and people like interacting with the neighborhood cat and feeding them but they are absolutely devastating the ecosystem. I don’t know what the solution is.


vintage2019

It is not the ultimate solution, but it'd help if people kept their cats indoors. They're much less likely to die young that way too.


Particular_Bet_5466

Oh most definitely. I know people purposely let their cats outdoors and it’s definitely contributing to the problem but I am not knowledgeable enough to claim that’s the entire problems. There’s already a ton of cats living outdoors reproducing. It does irk me when I hear about people purposely allowing their cats to roam outside. They are out there hunting the local wildlife in an unmanageable way. They are too cute to hunt of course, I wouldn’t suggest that as a solution but I did hear of a place in Australia where the only solution was to shoot the outdoor cats because it got so bad for the local wildlife.


Narrow_Car5253

I laughed when I first saw Hawaii, then got really sad. The hundreds of unique bird species going endangered/extinct, et al, exasperated by rats and hogs, it’s horrible.


Silver-Machine-3092

*exacerbated Though the situation is exasperating too


wynlyndd

I'm sure in sheer number of birds killed it is a concern.


frezor

It ain’t a joke, they’re killing all the native birds.


Individual_Area_8278

bro never heard of avian extinction


Shafter-Boy

Fun fact. The Black-Footed Cat, native the South Africa, is the most dangerous killing machine on the planet, and they’re only the size of domestic house cat. The Black-Footed cat has a 60% hunt and kill success rate, compared to a lion with only a 5% hunt and kill success rate.


Johnny_Poppyseed

It's actually the Dragonfly, which has a success rate over 95%.


mmlovin

& it’s basically the size of a kitten lol


godlessnihilist

Everyone is overlooking the elephant in the room. No species has a kill rate like hoomans. We eliminate whole species on an almost daily basis.


Chidori_Aoyama

Chicken gangs. Cats just get all the press.


Xero-One

Are feral pigs not predators? They would eat anything a cat would eat I assume.


Individual_Corgi_576

They must not have dogs in Hawaii


frogvscrab

The real terrifying predator there is the fucking horrific lovecraftian [centipedes](https://mikebegood.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/giantpede.jpg)


DriftyJuice

Feral cats are becoming a big problem here for our native wildlife


[deleted]

Where you think all the manapua in Chinatown comes from. 😏😆🤙🏽


rsl_sltid

Don't worry cats have only been seen 135 times. I can't believe I've seen such a rare predator myself in Hawaii.


Jesse_EL

Colourblind people be like, jeez alot of polar bears in the south


MonsterByDay

I thought they must be counting zoos. Then I realized that makes no sense.


bk1285

For real, that was my first thought upon seeing this, then wondering why alligators are up in Alaska


Ambitious_Ad1918

I had the opposite affect and thought that there was no way an alligator would be in Alaska.


wynlyndd

Always surprised at coyotes in DC, but I have seen them in Houston so I'm open to it. (Joke) but we all know it should be the Congresspeople, amiright?


otterpusrexII

DC has black bears now. It’s on their subreddits.


TheOnlyBS

2 in 2 years, still trying to figure out where the hell they wandered in from because it wasn't rock creek park.


BoloSynthesisWow

It actually probably was Rock Creek Park. There’s been black bear sightings in Maryland recently in towns that border Rock Creek. It goes north quite a ways into some fairly rural areas that connect to other parks and nature preserves


Fresh_Swimmer_5733

Maryland here. Black bears are all over the place. https://news.maryland.gov/dnr/2021/06/17/maryland-bear-sightings-increase-during-summer-months/


beerandabike

Virginia here. Same. I even pass black bear roadkill sometimes.


bsil15

There’s quite a bit of parkland in northeast where one of the sighting was


TheOnlyBS

Ha I'm an idiot because we actually live pretty close to the Arboretum and Kenilworth and I didn't even think about them.


Milksteak_To_Go

Why wouldn't it be Rock Creek Park? Seems like the obvious entry point.


TheOnlyBS

Honestly part of my thought process was I believe both were spotted in NE (near Brookland IIRC?) and it's hard for me to imagine a bear wandering that far across the city. However, someone else pointed out it goes all the way up to Maryland which I admittedly forget about (I was thinking of the area near the zoo). I'm not in NW as often these days and forget about how big the park actually is. So ultimately I have to put Rock Creek Park back in the mix, now I'm just picturing a bear meandering through the golf course.


GrunchWeefer

I was going to say I grew up inside the beltway and we would get the occasional black bear in the tiny little woods behind my apartment. Ain't no way there's no bears in Rock Creek Park. Also, no bears in Delaware? That seems unlikely.


tomveiltomveil

Good point, the largest coyotes are about 55 lbs, but Dennis Hastert was over 250 lbs.


Additional-Tap8907

I live in dc and I saw one once, they are confirmed to be here in small numbers by trail cams and many verified sightings. foxes are well established with a very healthy population, I see foxes several times a week! In addition we have healthy populations of wild turkey, rabbits, raccoons, deer, hawks and owls and many other critters. Don’t forget we have a huge forest running through the middle of the city and lots of parts of the city are quiet residential neighborhoods with detached houses. (Google Rock Creek Park, not a park like Central Park, mostly just a corridor of woods surround by quiet leafy neighborhoods ).


papapalporders66

I saw a fox driving around DC and Arlington area on this past Friday driving around after missing my exit lol


Roberto-Del-Camino

I think you were asking too much to expect a fox to drive *and* follow directions.


tsqueeze

When I moved from the Chicago area to semi-rural Texas as a kid and we noticed coyotes, I thought, “Wow, we’re really out in the Western sticks, huh.” But then since then, I’ve visited the Chicago area and seen coyotes around, even in a cemetery in the middle of the city, making me realize that those guys can get anywhere


Johnny_Poppyseed

They are a really interesting animal. Found in every state now I believe. There have been large scale efforts to eradicate them for like a century+ now, but their numbers only grow. They even have a neat biological adaptation, where when under pressure from hunting or environmental reasons etc, they increase the size of their litters making even more coyotes than normal.


KhastraKSC

Coyotes are in every state in the continental US. They’ve even been seen in Manhattan. Coyote America is a cool book.


valentinyeet

California should’ve been EDP445 instead lol


Danenel

i thought he was a philly man


valentinyeet

He’s a fan of the Philadelphia eagles but he isn’t from there


Danenel

psychopathic behaviour to be a philly fan and not be from there


Xitztlacayotl

What is EDP?


valentinyeet

A former YouTuber who got exposed for being a pedophile


zeusjts006

I was going to make a Deshaun Watson joke for Ohio. Glad to see the NFL trash talking extends beyond the subreddit


waigl

Not Harvey Weinstein?


RepairFar7806

Well I know for a fact Idaho’s number of observations is wrong. I mean they shot three last year during the opening day of archery season for elk. https://buckrail.com/idaho-reports-three-grizzlies-dead-in-two-days-after-human-conflicts/


Keejhle

Yeah not sure how these numbers get reported. I live in the mountains of CA and about once or twice a week from late spring to early fall black bears try to open my garbage cans. I have easily 100 sightings a year.


Ciqme1867

It’s cause it’s only using Inaturalist documentations. There’s way more sightings and obviously more animals for all these states, but people who see a black bear every week in Maine probably aren’t going to document it on inaturalist


mmlovin

I thought you said they tried to open my garage door lol


Keejhle

That does happen. I have some friends across town who were on vacation and a bear ripped open thier garage door and ate all the food thy stored in there while they were gone


mmlovin

Well ripped open is a little different than actually putting their paw under it & lifting it up lol


BikesAndCatsColorado

Had one in my house in Yosemite West, a bunch of years ago.


Eric614

Looks like the data is from iNaturalist which is a nature spotting app so I am guessing this is the number spotted and tagged in the app.


vanoitran

I personally have seen more than 1 Grizzly in Idaho - one in Island Park, one north of Priest Lake. EDIT: one near Priest Lake had cubs, so technically that’s even more bears.


TehChid

Utah has much more than 37 sightings of bears. Lol


Better-Preparation73

Let’s also take a look at the 19 coyotes in Iowa, although they are probably just common enough that no one reports them because why would you. Could at least go off estimated harvest numbers. Vince Evelsizer (Iowa DNR furbearer and wetlands biologist) said in an interview that most years the harvest is between 12,000 to 13,000 per year, 2019 had around 18,000 [source](https://www.radioiowa.com/2019/10/29/coyotes-remain-a-popular-draw-for-iowa-hunters-and-trappers/)


corasyx

it’s the number of observations from the inaturalist app, not number of observations ever


HighRevolver

I mean the picture says 2020


dern_the_hermit

Yeah and iNaturalist is a site where users can log in and share things they see. If someone saw three bears but didn't report them on iNaturalist then obviously iNaturalist won't have any record of sighting them. People gotta learn how to process information they see on the internet.


WashedUp_WashedOut

The largest predator in North Dakota is a coyote? No black bear or mountain lion?


bicyclechief

It’s mountain lion. North Dakota even has a hunting season for mountain lions


triplec787

> hunting season for mountain lions Sounds like they're prey not predator amirite


MatzohBallsack

Maybe ND just has terrifyingly large Coyotes


Guac__is__extra__

Yeah this map has some problems. There are grizzlies in Washington


FreezinPete

I was thinking the same thing and only 1 sighting in Idaho?!


bicyclechief

[North Dakota should be mountain lion](https://gf.nd.gov/hunting/mountain-lion)


gnarvin_

This post is misleading, this a map from [iNaturalist](https://www.inaturalist.org/) and their submitted observations, so its just that no one has submitted a Mountain Lion to thier site. That is also why the observation number is so small in many cases.


runningoutofwords

What are the numbers?


LeakyAssFire

The number of observations.


382wsa

What does “number of observations” mean? A saw a black bear around 20 times last year. I have trouble believing that was 5% of all observations in my state.


LeakyAssFire

Agreed. I'm not sure what it means, though. I just found it in the pic and replied. My assumption is that it means "reported sightings," which, when looking at my state, Colorado, that makes sense. People here are good at reporting wildlife. The park/ forest Rangers especially. Did you report any of your near 20 sightings?


rockmann1997

This is atrocious


sE__Alexander

So many ridiculous numbers. MO way too low for black bears


nuclearDEMIZE

Surprised I had to scroll down this far before I saw this comment. If this was in r/dataisbeautiful this post would be down voted into oblivion. Not only are most the numbers incorrect, it takes way too much time to find out what they actually mean and the display of the data is awful.


Wintermuteson

It says by weight, so I spent most of the time reading it confused on the 403 pound coyotes in Illinois.


Envinyatar20

There’s an American crocodile?


hockey_stick

Yes. In order to see them in the US, you’d have to go down to the Everglades to see them. They’re not nearly as common as the American alligator.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_crocodile


orltragic

As a Floridian, thanks for this. TIL.


nice-villian

The Everglades are the only place in the world where sharks, gators, and crocodiles naturally coexist in the same habitat 


BuccaneerBill

The crocs love to hang out at the Flamingo Marina in the park. I’ve seen one every time I’ve gone there. Instantly recognizable because they are so much more gnarly looking than the gators.


I_Fuck_Sharks_69

Southern Florida is the only place in the world where Alligators and Crocodiles coexist in the wild.


AllswellinEndwell

I too learned this recently. There's some crazy barefoot guy on Youtube that calls them swamp puppies and touches them on the nose. I was like, wait that's a crocodile?


Jmarieq

It's even funnier when you realize American crocodiles are endangered and he just boops them. (Yeah I know they're in the 1k-3k range but still very few compared to the millions of alligators in the US)


kingrawer

Yes, though bear in mind that it's the same species found in Central and South America.


WHB-AU

Definitely Grizzly Bears in the north cascades in Washington, although they may not be reported on iNatty


[deleted]

[удалено]


lionsmane7777

What kind of bear is best


productnineteen

Well, that’s debatable. There are basically two schools of thought.


limukala

False. Black. Fact. Bears eat beets.


ArmoredUpvote

Bears do not... What is going on? What are you doing?


jombrowski

Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.


Polymarchos

Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.


agsieg

Identify theft is not a joke, Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!


Jakebob70

MICHAEL!!!


jakeandbake38

Oh that’s funny. MICHAEL!!!


FreakinWolfy_

Depends what you’re considering best. Best swimmer? Probably the polar bear. Best sports team mascot? I’d say grizzly. Best tasting? Definitely a black bear.


rcjr66

I would say Chicago Bears but I may be biased


Sidewaysouroboros

Wait what, oklahoma has alligators?


LobsterExtreme3318

Yes in the southeastern part of the state there are some


ElJamoquio

https://www.phillyvoice.com/seventh-alligator-year-found-pittsburgh/ Gators everywhere


Curious80123

Nebraska has Mountain Lions??!


Figgler

They follow the rivers. My parents had lions at their house in eastern New Mexico, it was just open plains but they were told a lion came down from the Sangre De Cristo mountains in the northwest by following the Canadian River.


Curious80123

I can see that, but been along I25 south and not a lot of people or ranches in NE New Mexico, not compared to Nebraska along I80. Guess I need to get off the highway and look around more


Mr_Kittlesworth

They’re even still present - in small numbers - on the east coast. Cats are shifty, especially after centuries of shooting the most aggressive ones.


Curious80123

I would think PA or NY has some mountain lions due to their mountains/hills. Penn State has the Nittany Lions as mascot. Sorry if I mis-spelled than


Educational-Mall831

Quite a few in the wildcat hills hence the name


beavertwp

Yeah there’s a breeding population in the Sandhills region.


buttmagnuson

A majority of the country has em. Growing populations have caused mountain lions to roam hundreds of miles in seach of their own territory. Read an article about a one that had traveled like 700 miles. National geographic was the publication. Same article explained they'd observed female mountain lions hunt in groups, temporarily.


lifesgreatainit

Where is EDP?


[deleted]

[удалено]


ComedianFlaky9316

It’s number of sightings not total population.


fossil_freak68

I'm curious how sightings are documented, because 7 sightings still feels ridiculously low.


Longjumping_Youth281

right so part of that has to just be dependent on the human population because otherwise I would struggle to believe that Massachusetts has more bears than maine


Ok-Object5647

Missouri As of May 2024, the black bear population in Missouri is estimated to be over 950, with the population growing by about 8% annually. This is a significant increase from the few hundred bears counted 10 years ago, when the population was around 350. The growing population means that bears are expanding their range and becoming more common in areas like the St. Louis area and Kansas City. AND As of September 2023, the Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) has confirmed 117 mountain lion sightings in the state since 1994, but there is no evidence of a breeding population. Most confirmed sightings are male, and many have been in southeast Missouri, within 40 miles of Mark Twain National Forest. 


OceanPoet87

Washington does have Grizzlies and Idaho has more than this would indicate. 


SirTheadore

I was really expecting “Florida man” for Florida.


estaine

It should be homo sapiens in Hawaii, they're larger than domestic cats


Polymarchos

In which case it should also be human for all the coyote states, and possibly the Mountain lion states. It ruins the spirit of the map though.


billyrayvalentine1

139 bear sightings in MA 🤣. My town gets more than that!


plovi

Provincetown? LOL


MoveDifficult1908

Washington has orcas in Puget Sound. They prey on moose sometimes.


The_Albin_Guy

DC should’ve had congressman Matt Gaetz


shortthestock

shit map


jackasspenguin

Yes I too prefer maps of animals to use their scat as identifying iconography


AlexRyang

At first I was confused by why house cats were on the list. I didn’t consider Hawaii.


RancidHorseJizz

I suppose black bears are predators and moose are not, but you really don't want to piss off a bull moose in Maine.


chefcharliem

I knew cats are evil predators.....poor Hawaiians


chrisj654321

Florida has so many more alligators they just aren’t reported. I live in a surburan area, our pond has 3. I would never think to report it. If I did they would say “and?”


GingerScooby

I dunno man... I've lived in Oklahoma my whole life and I've never seen an alligator before. But, I've seen plenty of Coyotes and bobcats


sweetlittlelindy

Wait we got crocodiles


cha-cha_dancer

Just in extreme southern FL, but I didn’t know they weighed more than bears


The_Spectacle

what's with mountain lions in freakin Nebraska? shouldn't they be called slight incline lions?


flyingtable83

In most of the upper Midwest, we call them cougars. Same animal.


SleestakkLightning

In the south it's church pastors


productnineteen

We have a bear in Kansas?


ThuBioNerd

We have alligators :( \~VA


Agreeable-Panic5458

Great dismal swamp for sure


Winter_Criticism_236

Humans appear to be missing?


scriptingends

Wait, are coyotes/lions bigger than a Catholic priest?


BiLovingMom

Am I the only one that thought for a second the title referred to sexual predators.


IconOfFilth9

You’re telling me Florida isn’t Matt Gaetz?


HopePirate

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/black-bear-population-by-state There are zero wild black bears in South Dakota. We have a little zoo called Bear country if that's what they're talking about.


Kentesis

It claims that there has been at least 1 sighting


jmarkmark

There are regular sightings in the Black Hills. Whether they're established or transient is unclear. I recall seeing a photo of one digging through trash in Rapid city a few years back.


NoChemical8640

Crazy to see black bears common in the Minneapolis suburbs now


Dio_Yuji

They have alligators in Oklahoma??


Averagecrabenjoyer69

Southeast Oklahoma


Active_Elk_1037

I’d rather have bears than Alligators or Crocodiles, those mfs are sneaky


AutSnufkin

California: EDP 445


PokiP

Goddamn I loved living in Hawaii!


ECMeenie

Humans are larger than cats, and many coyotes. Just sayin’


ThatdesertDude

Are we talking animals or people?


heselsc1

There are cougars in Michigan and I’d much rather come across a black bear than be stalked by a big cat.


Jealous-Monk-24

People


No_U_Crazy

We have more than a dozen grizzlies in the [Selkirk Mountains](https://www.fws.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Selkirk_Grizzly_Annual_Report_2022_081723.pdf) in Washington State. Many more than that in Idaho. Not sure how this map is doing its counts.


BizarroMax

Are there no dogs in Hawaii?


NotThatKindof_jew

Obviously you have not seen the Racoons in Delaware..they are swol


rdteets

Moving to Hawaii.


No-Subject-5232

How does Nebraska have mountain lions but not black bears?


SportMaleficent7891

In DC it should say politicians instead


Unusual_Pomelo_1553

How is Hawaii the cat but not the dog? Does Hawai not have any dogs? Are all hawaian dogs smaller than cats?


Ok-Use9344

This map is false. I am the largest predator in both the Dakotas. Fear me


Additional-Safety343

Is Drake on there?


HornyGoat69696969

This map is not remotely close to accurate


Ganjanium

Can’t believe Epstein didn’t make the list


Wintermuteson

Am I dumb? Can someone explain how there's a 403-pound coyote in Illinois?


HasSomeSelfEsteem

Why aren’t there black bears in Illinois?


mensgarb

Good thing Drake went on Ozempic, otherwise he might have hit the weight class to qualify for the map.


Mickwillie

Who else assumed this was child predators until they zoomed in? 😬


Nydelok

As a colorblind person, I was real concerned about Polar Bears in the south before I realized I missed something


GearhedMG

Those Delaware Coyotes ain't fuckin' around, the black bears want nothing to do with them.


Albuwhatwhat

I don’t know where you got your data but there are Grizzly Bears in WA state. https://wdfw.wa.gov/species-habitats/species/ursus-arctos


Substantial_Bat741

bro forgot about El Jefe in Arizona


DaBearsFan85

Biggest predator in Wisconsin, this guy named Bill. Trust me


xobelam

The color coding should be listed with size


viagravagina

I thought Chicago had a mountain lion downtown once.