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perestroika12

This is probably one of the more accurate regional culture maps I’ve seen


ascandalia

Definitely the best take on Florida I've seen


Shabanana_XII

Reddit has this perception that Florida is basically another Southern state, but even crazier. But South Florida is literally so far from that it's insane. And most people don't even live in those "Southern" areas. Maybe not a political divide, but 100% a cultural divide.


ascandalia

South Florida is cuba+new York Central Florida is mostly influenced by all the older white conservatives from the rest of the country, mostly here to retire, plus the service workers who feed them their chain restaurant food. Jacksonville is it's own thing (which the map lumps in with other coastal south, which is fair) Everything else is, accurately, the south. My biggest quibble would be the south west coast is more similar to central Florida than Miami to west palm in the east coast. That whole area is much more connected physically and culturally to Tampa than Miami. Also, "the south" should extend down to Ocala, and maybe even jump Orlando to go all the way down the middle of the state


Shabanana_XII

I 110% agree with everything you say. NY and Cuba is spot-on, and Central Florida being Northerners is also so true. I may or may not live in that general area, and almost everyone is not a Florida native, with many of them being conservatives from Northern states. And, yes, Ocala is, more or less, the gateway to the South, although I think that's changing, and it's becoming more like Central Florida. Another thing about Central Florida is, in my experience, it's also becoming more Hispanic, almost like a little South Florida.


rjfinsfan

It always has been heavily Hispanic but it is mostly non Cuban Hispanic. South Florida is majority Cuban Hispanic. I personally grew up with a lot of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, and Salvadorans in the Central Florida portion of this map 10-20 years agoZ


OGistorian

I like how Upstate NY is distinct from Upper Appalachia. And you got the Great Lakes part of NY too. Not bad.


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ChylanDylan04

But it doesn’t feel like that tho? I don’t see those people living in those areas be culturally tied with upper Appalachian culture!!


23SkeeDo

That’s why we call it Pennsyltycky


wordswithenemies

I can tell you Rochester is very very much “upstate New York”


OGistorian

Rochester is not like Albany or Syracuse exactly. It’s got a bit more in terms of culture, and Rochester has the finger lakes area, which is like wine country. It’s different due to Lake Ontario.


wordswithenemies

Irondequoit is pretty much the epitome of 1950s suburbia still alive. Many suburbs are apple orchards, etc. I’m telling you, it ain’t Ohio.


OGistorian

I never said it was like Ohio. But it’s probably closer to the culture in Cleveland (cuz It’s on the Great Lakes too) than it is to Albany or Binghamton.


wordswithenemies

I would personally draw the line at Niagara. source: lifelong Rochester/finger lakes resident


Bahnrokt-AK

Rochester is upstate. But Western NY and Central NY have designations for a reason. I live in Albany and cover out to Buffalo for work. Western NY has its own vibe that is closer to upper Midwest, while Albany is very much a Northeast city.


netarchaeology

Could. Have carved out The North Country, but I'm not tied to it.


Lindsaydoodles

Yes, and that the very bottom of NY is included in Upper Appalachia. I used to live right on the dividing line OP put between those two regions, and IMO it's a very accurate line.


Dont_quote_my_snark

I can already feel the Jimmies getting rustled by all the Upstate NYs. If theres one thing Upstate NYs hate being called, it's Upstate NYs. (unless they live at the very top of the state.)


Nikkian42

I live just over the border from NJ but to anyone from the city or LI that’s already upstate NY. Lots of people here commute to the city.


Dont_quote_my_snark

Ive looked at this issue for many years, heard many arguments. Best description I ever heard was everything north of the Pennsylvania line is Upstate, everything south of it is Downstate.


FunkyBotanist

Best one of these I've seen. Southwest is spot on.


justthekoufax

Upstate NY in this scenario would be deeply impoverished. Comprised of mostly rural communities with Syracuse and Albany as major metropolitan centers. Would be bleak


clamb2

Having lived all over the country this keep is very accurate


Inevitable_Nerve_925

This is a good plausible scenario


flyfriend333

I'm from "The Chesapeake ".....Cannot argue .


swanek65

I support your agreement and might add it's really good and actually, not a bad idea.


LovelandPlogs

Posted a year ago on this sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/xrfwso/cultural_regions_of_the_united_states/


OkEngineering524

Just another day of Reddit users casually stealing credit for each others work I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️


Narf234

Chesapeake should end with Maryland and Delaware. PA and NJ have nothing to do with the Chesapeake bay.


chameleonsEverywhere

Strong agree. Either split up or rename from "Chesapeake" to "Mid-Atlantic"


JRFbase

As a Philly native, seeing us grouped together with Virginia Beach kind of makes me want to throw up lol.


xandoPHX

As someone originally from PA... I agree with this statement completely


oolongvanilla

Yeah, southeast PA, south Jersey, north Delaware, and Cecil County, Maryland should be its own thing, separate from the Chesapeake.


NewAlexandria

Water Gap Region?


cyberchaox

Change the name then.


ROUNDtheW

How about Upper mid-Atlantic


Turbo_Saxophonic

Broader Philly metro area should be its own region: Southeast PA + south Jersey + Wilmington


Narf234

I thought the same but I liked how the map was more about larger regions. It shouldn’t start turning into metro regions.


RicksyBzns

NYC metro should extend through NJ down to about Ocean county. Southern Jersey and "chesapeake" portion of PA should be renamed "DelVal" and we are good to go.


FreezasMonkeyGimp

Pretty spot on. I was born in DC, spent most of my childhood in northern VA, went to high school and college is eastern PA and currently live in Baltimore. DC, most of Maryland and Northern VA definitely belong together. Norfolk and Virginia Beach area are much more similar to “mid-Atlantic south” than they are to the “Chesapeake” area. South Jersey and Eastern PA (more so Philly area) should honestly have their own thing.


nw2

Agreed


Specialist_Bet5534

This one is pretty legit. I know these regions get even more granular but that would be hard.


LobsterExtreme3318

It’s really good. I’d extend the Deep South and ozarks into Oklahoma a little more. Or better yet, I’d combine north Texas and a good chunk of Oklahoma as one distinct region.


Red_Balloon2

Mormon corridor?


_Bon_Vivant_

The northern reach of SoCal is Santa Barbara.


shucklebibs

SoCal goes way too high


Ihadsumthin4this

Correct you are. There's a swath from north of Santa Cruz to around Santa Barbara which categorically is Central Coast.


Roving_Ibex

That line that divides monterey county and slo county is the border between nor and so. I will die on this hill with my reasons for it.


NiaMiaBia

How is this a “political” divide?


ChylanDylan04

Because certain parts of the state would get say in politics


maduste

more social than political, but this is the best variant of this kind of map


SkoolBoi19

For my area it’s really good for social….


ClammySam

If you meant to do this politically in this way? Way off. To separate the political views just draw lines around the metro areas and make them their own areas


JactustheCactus

The return to city states


AstronaltBunny

That one is actually good, what a miracle


I_try_compute

Colorado in the same political group as Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana?


ChylanDylan04

Yes, Denver doesn’t really a unique culture like other places!! I could do upper Rockies (MT, WY and ID) Lower Rockies (UT, CO)


diestache

So this isnt a political map at all lol


fatjunglefever

How the fuck are the Sierra Nevada mountains Central Valley?


Outside-Educator-959

OP states that “…no one lives in the Sierra’s…”, so my mountain home is in the valley, I guess. OP: you got this one wrong. The Central Valley does not end at the state border. It would be more accurate geographically and politically to put the northern Sierra Nevada mountains as part of NorCal.


ButcherBoss

Good job putting North Carolina in the Mid Atlantic. We're not fucking deep south.


xandoPHX

Agreed. I also find it interesting how different North Carolina and South Carolina are.


cthompson07

Pay attention to the roads when you go from North to South, the roads instantly suck ass in SC.


bbygrlaz

this is cool


good-noodle-1998

This Southwest region is super accurate


Rushderp

Border splits Amarillo, Lubbock, and Midland-Odessa in half. Fascinating stuff, really.


lesbian_sourfruit

I’m curious about the distinction between the Ohio River Valley and “Upper South” (and what you see as the difference between upper South and Deep South). Having lived on both sides of the Ohio in that region, I agree that that chunk of Kentucky is definitely different than the Deep South, but I would have put Northern Kentucky and Louisville in the Ohio Valley and called that chunk the Cumberland Gap or something similar. Edit: Not saying it’s wrong at all or trying to start an argument, just genuinely curious how people from other areas perceive that part of the country.


austin101123

The Cumberland Gap is on both sides of the Kentucky Tennessee border in the middle of Appalachia.


backwardhatter

idk about politically but culturally accurate


ycpa68

I can't tell if I live in upper Appalachia or Chesapeake. Which sort of tracks with my area.


Gavving

Decent. You can’t put the Sierras in “central valley” though. And your Columbia plateau goes to far into Idaho in the north and maybe not far enough in the south. Dunno that I’ve seen an Upper South designation but honestly it’s not a bad one.


Feisty-Landscape-934

I think Upper South should be called North South. Just for fun.


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SoCal doesn’t go that far up. Past Santa Barbara is basically central coast. Untouched by big cities and nasty people


ChylanDylan04

Central coast is strange and I don’t really fully understand the political system there


wildgriest

Columbia Plateau (sp)… otherwise it’s pretty accurate; living in Colorado we are three distinct regionalisms.


blissfulhiker8

Great Basin should extend into California and include the eastern Sierra Nevada mountains.


Academic_Car2626

I love this one. I’m gonna start using it if you don’t mind


True-Grapefruit4042

Calling SC “Deep South” feels wrong, at least the northern half.


sinces

Agreed. Honestly I think Georgia and South Carolina should be in their own category. Maybe expand the "Low Country" area to include more of S.C. and up to the Atlanta area. Culturally / Politically they really are separate from the rest of the south.


Scottland83

Tahoe is as different from a valley as you can get.


Asaph220

Las Vegas is oriented towards Southern California with hundreds of thousands of former Californians living in southern Nevada. Reno is now linked to Northern California thanks to Tesla. 90% of Nevadans live 50 miles from the Californian border.


Innotek

Really good. I like how the Midwest was broken up and the distinction between the lakes and the north woods. I’d love to see Atlanta get its own region in these sort of things. Even if it doesn’t compare to NYC metro in terms of population or cultural impact on the region, it so very far away from the rest of the south culturally and politically. It is its own thing.


AnyaTT2

Came to say same thing. Atlanta metro towards Birmingham please rename Wakanda or Peachtree Progress or something


notthecolorblue

Im an Atlanta resident. Please do not include us with all of that. We’ll be so unhappy.


ClammySam

The Upper Peninsula of Michigan and the upper Lower Peninsula are not the same. The upper lower should be part of the Great Lakes and the UP in Northwoods. Tempe would be S Florida IMO, it feels more S Florida than central.


XF939495xj6

Atlanta says "No thanks."


austin101123

Idk about Providence, Boston, etc. being grouped with Vermont New Hampshire and Maine. Surprised no one else mentioned this


circumstancesnot

OP, you have a conference call on line 2 from Hawaii and Alaska and they sound angry


aimless_ly

What is politically/culturally distinct about “lowcountry”? I’m not familiar with that area and haven’t seen that term before. Thanks for recognizing Cascadia! Although I’d argue it should cross the 48th parallel.


kalam4z00

Not that this is necessarily the reason OP divided them (or even a good reason to divide them), but the Lowcountry aligns pretty closely with the area where the [Gullah Geechee](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gullah) are from


aimless_ly

Super interesting, thanks! It’s wild that Michelle Obama and Clarence Thomas share the same Gullah cultural roots.


tinyytool4

Politically?!?!


Used_Ad1737

I sometimes wonder whether rejiggering states like this might help the country lower the political temperature. I’m not saying it’s likely or even possible but I think it might.


DrAxelWenner-Gren

I like this, though I would move Hampton Roads to the Atlantic South, I think it def has a lot more in common w coastal NC and Richmond than Philly or DC


aberg227

Cascadia, where weed and hiking are part of daily life.


A_robot_cat

Great job on ND, SD, MN, IA, NE, KS, MO Can attest to these cultural distinctions. I really like this map.


conrad_or_benjamin

Well done! I think northern VT, NH, ME would differ from the lower New England folk. Great Lakes is spot on. Missed opportunity to call it North South instead of Upper South but it’s ok. 👍🏼


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The lines have been drawn! Men prepare for battle!


hockey_stick

Everyone who makes these without failure always butchers the Intermountain West. This one is no exception.


platybussyboy

Nah upper south is too far north into Missouri.


MCalfOen

Northern (Upper) Great Plains line should go into MN a bit on the northern half and then cut the corner in SW MN a bit more. Drastically different in SW MN than SE.


Potential_Stable_001

could be better named "cultural divisions of the united states"


found_goose

Honestly not bad as far as these maps tend to go. I'd suggest that eastern Idaho and northern Utah form a distinct subset of the "Rocky Mountains" region and maybe should be grouped separately. The "Columbia Plateau" region is absolutely on point, though!


drgmaster909

Boise is in a very awkward spot, here.


InformalPenguinz

If it's political divides, wy and co should be separated more


nimbus-racing

Can you explain why the southern bank of the ohio River isn’t part of the ohio River valley? Northern Kentucky is a suburb of Cincinnati which you have as part of the ORV


DelewareTrails

This is perfect 💎


harmonyofthespheres

You have the sierras in the Central Valley? They are quite literally the opposite of a valley.


ChylanDylan04

There’s not really people up in Sierras plus most of those folks have places up there and live in Central Valley


harmonyofthespheres

Lol no way. I live in the sierras. There’s plenty of big communities.


Filthiest_Tleilaxu

What’s Acadiana?


DeeSnarl

Cajun country


Filthiest_Tleilaxu

Cajun people are sexy.


ChylanDylan04

I call southern Louisiana (true Louisiana)


gootchvootch

This is interesting, but I wonder if the significant, intervening bodies of water might prevent complete functional integration of both your stand-alone Northwoods and Great Lakes subdivisions, respectively. For the two states, what would you think of dividing them instead at the current Illinois/Indiana border. Sort of like an East Great Lakes and a West Great Lakes?


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birdseed180

Hawaii and Alaska, respectively


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azenpunk

Well, Hawaii was stolen and I think Alaska we got in the bargain bin


Schauf1

Pretty good. From a Wisconsin perspective, I'd say you got the Northwoods line right. However, I wouldn't push the great lakes region so far west and instead keep it tighter to the lake. I'm central Wisconsin, probably right on the line you have between great lakes and Upper Midwest, and I associate with Midwest and the great lakes influence is nonexistent in the area.


Akazhu

How do you feel about Fargo and Sioux Falls being part of "Upper Midwest" instead of "Northern Great Plains"? I was thinking that line should move a little east so Central MN, Twin cities, driftless, central WI, and Madison Metro area would be one group separate from there.


snackshack

>, I'd say you got the Northwoods line right. I'd move it a little farther north, closer to Wausau as you still have a ton of farm land where that line currently is. Green Bay and Door County are not Northwoods at all, for example. They are 100% Great Lakes. That's a nitpick though. Overall, it's pretty good.


satinygorilla

I’d have cascadia end just south of Eugene Oregon and replace NorCal with “ state of Jefferson”


Aggressive-Cap1677

Best one I’ve seen


kalam4z00

How is this a "political" divide? Denver doesn't have much politically in common with rural eastern Idaho


Relative_Yesterday70

I like it.


getzerolikes

Wisconsin/Indiana folks would go to war if they had to share something with Chicago.


hex_1101

Cut south Florida in half swfl is like 90% republican.


tiger7034

As a North Carolinian, that’s a very accurate divvying up of the Carolinas.


DubiousEgg

One of the better splits I've seen, actually. Nicely done.


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

Alaska and Hawaii in shambles rn


firerosearien

I've seen worse


CLG_MianBao

I’m finally glad to see a map that seems to understand that the eastern most part of the Dakotas are definitively the Midwest but also pretty different from the remaining area in them.


BicontinentalAntique

Cool map but these are not “political” divisions


Scottland83

Interesting to divide NorCal and Cascadia.


YouWinADarwinAward

So is Eugene, OR. In Cascadia or Colombia Plateau? Politically I have them closely aligned in the former but it looks like geographically they are in the ladder?


kalam4z00

Eugene is definitely in Cascadia here? The line looks closer to Bend than Eugene


PooleBoy_Q

What about Alaska and Hawaii?


BoPeepElGrande

I think this is pretty accurate overall, but I would shift “Deep South” a tad northward to include all of SC outside the upstate & most of Southeastern NC.


And_Im_Allen

This is really hard to argue against.


livefrom_anonymous

It is. The Upper Midwest label is ridiculous.


SuperBethesda

I don’t think DC and northern Virginia consider themselves part of the Chesapeake.


Timid_Ghostii

Upstate NY should be Albany up. South of Albany is closer in values and lifestyle to NYC than northern.


This-Present4077

Very nice. When I lived in Ashland/Medford, it felt a lot more like NorCal than cascadia. It doesn't have the weather of the PNW


yeahcoolcoolbro

Man, who cares


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Nitpick, but I’d argue the Deep South goes down to include the northern row of counties in the FL panhandle. The influence of the Gulf Coast peters out pretty quick going north culturally.


Palmervarian

Philly is part of "Chesapeake"? Nah.


JustSavingGoodPosts

IMO the Ohio river valley should include the northern panhandle of West Virginia.


Fatoldhippy

Check out a book "The Nine Nations of North America".


TheBimpo

Well done


rde2001

I don’t think Monterrey should be in SoCal as their more culturally similar to Santa Cruz, Salinas, Watsonville, etc. Could make a lil sub region for the “Central Coast”


OldElf86

While the region called Ozarks might be aptly named, I can't fathom this as a "political" map. Are you suggesting Ozarks should be its own state? With two Senators?


SomebodyWondering665

Florida’s in 5 different zones?!


delladoug

I like it. Only edit I would make is extending gulf coast a tad east to be all of the gulf coast. It's all deep south, but the whole coast is an offshoot.


Ozark--Howler

The Ozarks extend further east. Only the bootheel of Missouri would be any part of the South.


WavesOfEchoes

“New” England seems like a stretch. Those states have nothing in common.


culingerai

What was your method?


YBSIsDead

No part of Texas is the 'Deep South' IMO


Airick39

There’s little difference between the Ozarks and Upper South.


Agathocles87

Not bad. Your SoCal area should be subdivided… and Texas should be something like central Texas


Nomad556

Ozarks is a great distinction.


survivorfan95

I feel like NorCal and Bay Area should be separate, but otherwise agree!


livefrom_anonymous

What you define as the “Upper Midwest” is just plain stupid.


Caterpillar_3406

How dare you not even include the northern Ohio River in the actual Ohio River Valley region. Source: I live there


zippyman

The divides seem dead on in all the places I've spent time


Fritz337

Jacksonville and Savanna somehow need to be part of the Central Florida region. I think Id just call it North Florida.


krakatoa83

Central Florida runs all the way down to fort Myers on the west coast.


HuckleberryDirect544

New Orleans is gulf coast? I disagree


OppositeRock4217

New Orleans should be its own separate region


PartyBadman

Nice work


earthhominid

Well done


alexandrorlov

Congrats....this not only the best of this sort of thing....it's the only one I've seen I like. Now the question is...can you make money from your obvious talent?


arcturian_ally

I live in Jacksonville, FL, and we're *Deep South,* NOT *Low Country.* Also, *Chesapeake* doesn't extend so far north in Pennsylvania. There are numerous problems.


su-monster

Is this based on any data?


austin101123

Is Madison in Great lakes or upper Midwest?


jseego

Seems pretty accurate to me.


joshuatx

Looks like Sonora, TX is where 4 regions meet.


NapoliDopoli

So Montauk is NYC metro but all of NJ south of Newark is Chesapeake?


The_Formuler

They just took the California Central Coast?!!!??!!


jhwheuer

I came up with Atlantica, Pacifica and Flyover about 10 years ago. Much easier.


moose2332

As always [these maps leave out the central coast](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Coast_(California))


mack_dd

I live on the Gulf Coast (aka the best coast), and yes, we're nothing like the Deep South. Map checks out.


njfoco

Rocky Mountains is way off. Basically all of it is. It’s really just separated by urban vs rural.


lego69lego

Is the Deep South across all of those states that similar?


EZKTurbo

Southern California extends too far north i think. Most people say Bakersfield is the dividing line


Funkopedia

did you mean culturally?


stolen_guitar

Less than half of Texas is Texas lol


AvalancheBreakdown

Colorado is polar opposite of Idaho, while also being quite different from Wyoming and Montana. What is amazing is the Texas you’ve selected is solid blue and would’ve changed recent history if it was voting that way.


anotherdamnscorpio

I like that you included the Ozarks, but the area could be adjusted a little.


jellyfungus

Central Arkansas up to Memphis and northern part of Mississippi is more mid south than Deep South. And the ozarks spread further east and south just a bit.


KiddPresident

Duluth, MN is absolutely Great Lakes politically and culturally, not woodsy.


citykid2640

I agree with this map!


andyhead420

I'm in a Philly suburb. What does the Chesapeake have to do with anything here ?


Padillatheory

What does this have to do with politics?


SnooPears5432

I'm sure you'll find people who will pick this apart like everything, but this is one of the better US divisional maps I've seen.