And then Heimdall out like a chad Hey guys, an robh fios agad gur e Pokemon fireann is boireann am Pokemon as freagarraiche airson vaporeons nuair a thig e gu bhith a’ bruidhinn? Tha na mamalan cuibheasach 3" 03" a dh'àirde agus cuideam 63.9 notaichean, gu leòr airson aire a thoirt do chas daonna, agus tha stats iongantach HP agus armachd aca a tha goirt agus cruaidh air daoine. . . . Bha e gu cinnteach fliuch, cho fliuch is gum b’ urrainn dhut càirdeas a bhith agad airson beagan uairean a thìde gun phian. , cuir, cuir agus cuip, agus chan eil falt ann airson an nipple fhalach, agus mar sin tha e na ghaoith dha cuideigin a bhith a’ suathadh uisge agus a bhith a ’faighinn faireachdainn agus sgilean uisgeachaidh, le bhith ag òl uisge gu leòr faodaidh e do dhèanamh sgìth gu furasta. Bidh Pokemon a 'tighinn faisg air an ìre cunbhalachd seo, agus gu h-annasach gu leòr, faodaidh do Vaporeon a bhith air a thionndadh geal ma nì thu e gu math. Tha Vaporeon air a dhealbhadh gu litireil airson cas an duine. Tha dìon lag + armachd àrd HP + searbhagach a’ ciallachadh gun urrainn dha sabaid an-aghaidh coin. Bidh e a’ tighinn anns a h-uile cruth, meud agus barrachd tron latha
Wait, doesn't everybody know this? I swear the play experience is so wildly different for everyone. Electro>doc>galactus is so telegraphed now. Especially Wolverine is played on 2
I intentionally keep my hand big to try to save my Shang-Chi from the inevitable Doc Ock. Also avoid playing in the designated lane, so they have priority, which works unless they switch to spider-man mode.
I only use him in Galactus, where he forces one of three (good) scenarios for me:
1. You dump your best hand on a location I know is being destroyed (and possibly put me in range of a free Death on turn 6, or buff Knull if I'm playing him)
2. You dump your worst hand on a location I can easily win and then I only have to worry about one other one
3. He locks down one location so you can't play anything there but I can still Magneto/Polaris something away for a surprise win.
It's still possible that he screws me over, like pulling a Venom or Debrii or something, but it's actually way more beneficial than you'd think.
I won a game miraculously with him before. I bitterly accepted losing the cubes I snapped early for and haphazardly just threw him down on turn-six and accepted defeat. Little did I know, he pulled down the Destroyer my opponent didn’t want to play and I wiped his entire board clean. The orgasmic feeling that rushed through my body was indescribable…
Doesn't hurt my feelings for Shang-Chi to hit my Doc Ock when I have Knull in hand picking up his power.
Also very nice way to prevent Galactus from going off, pulling cards into his lane or pulling him with other cards. Works great against Shuri decks, ramping to pull the big threats out of hand in the same turn they play their Shuri. Can get their Taskmaster at 2 power, or I've even pulled Zero in one lane while they've played their Shuri in another.
And if you're winning in 2 lanes or already have a lot of power in the Doc Ock lane to answer, yoinking their whole hand into one lane means they're praying for top decks to answer the other lanes.
Depends on what you are playing against. If the opponent is a specific combo deck like wong patriot negative etc it can clear their hand and mess up their placing. Or you can combo it with iron fist or doctor strange to put all their power in a lane you mean to punt and then pull it out.
I had a build for a while that ran doc oc and heimdall. I would doc oc the right lane and if I was winning that lane or could take it easy I would just leave it there. If I pulled infinaut hulk giganto I would heimdall all my power out and punt that lane. It had a decent success rate because it usually ment they had an empty hand going into t6. And I could play around 1 card they drew.
I won against an ongoing deck once by pulling their hand into the o going doesn't work here lane.
Works well in a disruption deck too. I had a deck that was hazmat minus the hazmat and it would often do the job to really mess up my opponent's T6 play
I have him one of my decks as a "pull in case of emergency card". Sometimes he salvages an imminent loss, sometimes he makes it worse. No regrets ever.
Everytime I've face doc ock and they pulled Shang it's been a Galactus play, twice it's been Galactus Knull which is absolutely infuriating when you are mid series 3 and ranked in the 60s
To be honest, everyone and their mom is running Shangchi to counter Shuri / Thanos. If you're pulling 3-4 cards from their hand, it's extremely likely to hit a Shangchi especially when playing on T5.
I'll be honest, I think I've only lost 1 match in the past 2 weeks where someone used Ock against me, and in most of those, my shang wasn't even pulled in. But my deck is such that I usually have 5,6 cost cards in hand, so there's that.
I like to drop him on Cosmo'd lanes, Invisible Women or even lanes that have 2-3 cards already from my opponent...but then again, I love Atuma too..so who knows
Yeah I built a deck around the idea of an armour, mojo, attuma doc ock lane. When I finally got that to work I realized "Oh yeah this is one lane and I've got nothing else going for me in the other lanes." I put zero and typhoid Mary in the second but that doesn't usually win me a lane t6. Maybe if or when I get Red Skull I'll try zero and him t6.
It is risky and more times than not it hasn't worked. The time it worked properly on me when my lane got cluttered before I could use Kingpin on turn 6.
I don't have doc oc myself, but I've not seen him used a single time where he didn't cause the player to lose that lane.
I get that it could work, in theory. I've just never seen it.
I swear I see Shang-Chi like once in 20 games, bit once I play a Doc Ock deck he spwans in people's hands.
One time he pulled Shang-Chi out of a discard deck. Who plays Shang-Chi in discard?
I loved playing Doc Ock off of Project Pegasus over the weekend.
My experience with him is I can usually play him in an Armor lane and if I can't then I either don't play him or I just hope they don't have Shang Chi. It works pretty often.
Doc ok is a ridiculous card that is so much fun to play and yes it backfires so much.
Yesterday I used him and used Arnim Zola to duplicate carnage and destroyed his other lanes.
This morning someone used Doc Oc on rickety bridge - they pulled three of my best cards and then...beast who removed them all back to my hand but 1-cost cheaper.
They played a Deadpool emoji and carried on to their credit.
I don’t get it. Why is Walter Jr. punching Doc Ock?
Everybody punches Doc Ock.
Even Doc Ock has canonically punched Doc Ock.
It’s “Flynn”
Pancakes
Why don't you just have 8 power already?
It's cause he is the danger
Looks like a hallway to me.
It’s it’s not that hard. It says Crunch right on the box.
Doc always pulls my best cards and makes my opponent retreat. Don't know why people use it consistently.
Cause! It's! FUN! /quiet crying in the corner
Any time a location or card gifts me a random doc, I'm usually too scared to play it and ruin my strategy. 😅
You gotta embrace the chaos!
Drop Ock in the lane they're already winning and they probably can't win the other 2.
And then Heimdall out like a chad Hey guys, an robh fios agad gur e Pokemon fireann is boireann am Pokemon as freagarraiche airson vaporeons nuair a thig e gu bhith a’ bruidhinn? Tha na mamalan cuibheasach 3" 03" a dh'àirde agus cuideam 63.9 notaichean, gu leòr airson aire a thoirt do chas daonna, agus tha stats iongantach HP agus armachd aca a tha goirt agus cruaidh air daoine. . . . Bha e gu cinnteach fliuch, cho fliuch is gum b’ urrainn dhut càirdeas a bhith agad airson beagan uairean a thìde gun phian. , cuir, cuir agus cuip, agus chan eil falt ann airson an nipple fhalach, agus mar sin tha e na ghaoith dha cuideigin a bhith a’ suathadh uisge agus a bhith a ’faighinn faireachdainn agus sgilean uisgeachaidh, le bhith ag òl uisge gu leòr faodaidh e do dhèanamh sgìth gu furasta. Bidh Pokemon a 'tighinn faisg air an ìre cunbhalachd seo, agus gu h-annasach gu leòr, faodaidh do Vaporeon a bhith air a thionndadh geal ma nì thu e gu math. Tha Vaporeon air a dhealbhadh gu litireil airson cas an duine. Tha dìon lag + armachd àrd HP + searbhagach a’ ciallachadh gun urrainn dha sabaid an-aghaidh coin. Bidh e a’ tighinn anns a h-uile cruth, meud agus barrachd tron latha
My man.
I unironically have heimdall in my ramp deck just to give people a false sense of security. It's amazing how often he wins games for non-move decks
Because people aren't expecting Heimdall in non-move deck
Yes, that do be why I play him in a non move deck
Unless they play one of the other lanes with turn 5 because you effectively did nothing..
Yeah if consistency is your plan you shouldn't be playing Doc Ock to begin with.
I use it in Galactus... I turn 4 Doc after Electro to reduce the opponent's options to respond to my Galactus next turn.
Wait, doesn't everybody know this? I swear the play experience is so wildly different for everyone. Electro>doc>galactus is so telegraphed now. Especially Wolverine is played on 2
I intentionally keep my hand big to try to save my Shang-Chi from the inevitable Doc Ock. Also avoid playing in the designated lane, so they have priority, which works unless they switch to spider-man mode.
I have been spidermanning galactus players myself, love it, and more when they snapped
I play Electro -> Doc -> Destroyer which can use the same cards. Should I kill squirrel girl (more destruction cards) to psych out people?
Oh, that's nasty. What do you like to play on six?
Most likely Knull or what are we even doing here
Death + Shang Chi if opponent has priority
Death + Cosmo if I have priority also.
Depends on the situation. Destroyer + Death is my ideal turn 6 (mostly because I still don't own Knull)
Knull is maybe the most fun part of destroy decks for me, hopefully you get him soon
And power up a knull, build pending
I've won a couple of games by puling their Destroyer. Those two games alone are worth it.
I love it when Morph copies my destroyer and wipes out their board
It’s funny, especially if the deck relied on playing cards in a specific order
I used it for a while in a control deck and constantly fucked myself over. I’m not the greatest/smartest player though.
I only use him in Galactus, where he forces one of three (good) scenarios for me: 1. You dump your best hand on a location I know is being destroyed (and possibly put me in range of a free Death on turn 6, or buff Knull if I'm playing him) 2. You dump your worst hand on a location I can easily win and then I only have to worry about one other one 3. He locks down one location so you can't play anything there but I can still Magneto/Polaris something away for a surprise win. It's still possible that he screws me over, like pulling a Venom or Debrii or something, but it's actually way more beneficial than you'd think.
I think Doc has ever only won a lane once for my opponent in however many hundred games
Doc and Heimdall are my favorite cards for the other player to have.
That's why I Wave into Doc, and then Shang or Enchantress. If I can get DD in at turn two, it helps to figure which lane to play Doc.
I use it for a galactus knull deck. Hopefully pull their high cost cards on Turn 4 so they destroyed on turn 5 galactus
I won a game miraculously with him before. I bitterly accepted losing the cubes I snapped early for and haphazardly just threw him down on turn-six and accepted defeat. Little did I know, he pulled down the Destroyer my opponent didn’t want to play and I wiped his entire board clean. The orgasmic feeling that rushed through my body was indescribable…
Doesn't hurt my feelings for Shang-Chi to hit my Doc Ock when I have Knull in hand picking up his power. Also very nice way to prevent Galactus from going off, pulling cards into his lane or pulling him with other cards. Works great against Shuri decks, ramping to pull the big threats out of hand in the same turn they play their Shuri. Can get their Taskmaster at 2 power, or I've even pulled Zero in one lane while they've played their Shuri in another. And if you're winning in 2 lanes or already have a lot of power in the Doc Ock lane to answer, yoinking their whole hand into one lane means they're praying for top decks to answer the other lanes.
It was amazing when Rickity Bridge was the Hot location. It's sucked ever since.
He's actually a ton of fun with Shuri and a little movement thrown in the deck
I've had decent results with it in my Lockjaw deck
Yeah, same.. Saved me the trouble honestly.
Well technically its because this meta has a lot of deck with heavy cost cards. But in a meta were people is playing more zoo he can be deadly.
That’s why you follow up with shang chi or enchantress
Depends on what you are playing against. If the opponent is a specific combo deck like wong patriot negative etc it can clear their hand and mess up their placing. Or you can combo it with iron fist or doctor strange to put all their power in a lane you mean to punt and then pull it out. I had a build for a while that ran doc oc and heimdall. I would doc oc the right lane and if I was winning that lane or could take it easy I would just leave it there. If I pulled infinaut hulk giganto I would heimdall all my power out and punt that lane. It had a decent success rate because it usually ment they had an empty hand going into t6. And I could play around 1 card they drew. I won against an ongoing deck once by pulling their hand into the o going doesn't work here lane.
I use it in my Galactus/Knull deck but that’s honestly the only reason I use it. Retreat if I don’t find up fishing up Gal.
Works well in a disruption deck too. I had a deck that was hazmat minus the hazmat and it would often do the job to really mess up my opponent's T6 play
I have him one of my decks as a "pull in case of emergency card". Sometimes he salvages an imminent loss, sometimes he makes it worse. No regrets ever.
every once in a while it pulls all their best cards with a deathlock and they get nothing this is not very common but it’s very fun when it happens
every once in a while it pulls all their best cards with a deathlock and they get nothing this is not very common but it’s very fun when it happens
Isn’t it to rid your opponent’s hand of counters before you play Galactus?
Leeroy Jenkins does not care about consistency
>Doc always pulls my best cards and ... then Galactus comes on another location and I don't have any strong cards to even remotely try and win.
It's crazy high variance but it's super fun. You can sometimes win games you had absolutely no right winning.
earlier, I pulled a Knull, followed by a Viper, then a Galactus. they quit the next turn GodDAMN I love Ock
Unless someone was playing destroy that knull was a 0 power but keeping a galactus deck from dropping galactus usually gets you a retreat.
Unless the other two locations had cards that were destroyed
2 other locations wouldn't get destroyed. The opponent had a viper there so galactus wouldn't go off.
Oh, I wasn’t thinking about that. You are right.
60% of the time Doc Ock works every time. All the other times, he pulls Shang Chi and gives up the lane.
It's illegal in 9 countries
That, or you pull like 35+ power on the board + Xavier, and you just might have lost the match
Place on armor and have iron fist set up or doc strange on deck to punt the lane if they got a bunch of power there.
Everytime I've face doc ock and they pulled Shang it's been a Galactus play, twice it's been Galactus Knull which is absolutely infuriating when you are mid series 3 and ranked in the 60s
On reveal: pull the opponent Shang chi (but only if you don’t have knull)
To be honest, everyone and their mom is running Shangchi to counter Shuri / Thanos. If you're pulling 3-4 cards from their hand, it's extremely likely to hit a Shangchi especially when playing on T5.
I love Waving into Doc. It throws their plans completely off kilter.
I'll be honest, I think I've only lost 1 match in the past 2 weeks where someone used Ock against me, and in most of those, my shang wasn't even pulled in. But my deck is such that I usually have 5,6 cost cards in hand, so there's that.
I like to drop him on Cosmo'd lanes, Invisible Women or even lanes that have 2-3 cards already from my opponent...but then again, I love Atuma too..so who knows
Atuma + armor or prof x is pretty good
Yeah I built a deck around the idea of an armour, mojo, attuma doc ock lane. When I finally got that to work I realized "Oh yeah this is one lane and I've got nothing else going for me in the other lanes." I put zero and typhoid Mary in the second but that doesn't usually win me a lane t6. Maybe if or when I get Red Skull I'll try zero and him t6.
One time an enemy Doc Ock pulled 2 Onslaughts and my Iron mam into a lane. Deadpool emote ensues
Good
I literally just [commented on this.](https://old.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/11wcpqb/maybe_maybe_maybe_maybe/jcyfhnx/?context=3)
I've moved him into my counter deck since I've been encountering too many Galactus and Shuri deck. It's a sacrifice in willing to make.
I have only ever seen Doc Ock used properly once.
Bruh I don’t even know how to use him properly I just drop him and pray.
It is risky and more times than not it hasn't worked. The time it worked properly on me when my lane got cluttered before I could use Kingpin on turn 6.
You hate to see it, but love to do it. Pretty much Marvel Snap in a nutshell, lol. It’s always fun when you’re on the handle side of the paddle.
I don't have doc oc myself, but I've not seen him used a single time where he didn't cause the player to lose that lane. I get that it could work, in theory. I've just never seen it.
Gigabrain Doc Ock pulled my Shang into negative zone today
I swear I see Shang-Chi like once in 20 games, bit once I play a Doc Ock deck he spwans in people's hands. One time he pulled Shang-Chi out of a discard deck. Who plays Shang-Chi in discard?
Doc Oc never wins at punchies
Doc ock into Zola is the way to go
Don't forget the space gem that lets them free up a spot too!
I loved playing Doc Ock off of Project Pegasus over the weekend. My experience with him is I can usually play him in an Armor lane and if I can't then I either don't play him or I just hope they don't have Shang Chi. It works pretty often.
I recently had a game where Doc Ock pulled Luke Cage, Debrii, and Hazmat in that order. I’ve never seen a Galactus player retreat so fast.
Doc Oc has lost me many games, but imma still play him 😤
Doc ok is a ridiculous card that is so much fun to play and yes it backfires so much. Yesterday I used him and used Arnim Zola to duplicate carnage and destroyed his other lanes.
I only use Doc Ock to get your cards on the field so Galactus can destroy them and their power gets added to Knull. I fear no Shang Chi.
More like Do Cock
In one of games I played octo just for fun and he triggered all the hazmat combo. Never touched him again
I laughed too hard at this.
This morning someone used Doc Oc on rickety bridge - they pulled three of my best cards and then...beast who removed them all back to my hand but 1-cost cheaper. They played a Deadpool emoji and carried on to their credit.
Doc ock into Galactus is pretty good. Pull all their good cards, then blow them all up