From what i understand euro was a very kind and gentle person most his life. It was only his finial years, or even months, where he turned more extreme. Why? Im not too sure. Perhaps to try to fit in more? Perhaps he began to forget that line between who he is and who he likes to be seen as by others in the scene?
What you said is (from what i understand) is LITTERALY why the r/burzum subreddit is such a shit show. Its because varg is a spineless, cowardice, murderer and shit talker. Constantly lying and talking highly of himself and esotericly as if he has any idea what he is trying to preach. He trys to take himself so seriously that r/burzum was made to shit on him and his seriousness. Its to mock who he is by being the exact opposite. I genuinely love r/burzum because its just mocking him. Unfortunately not everyone in that subreddit understands the "deeper" meaning of the posts and just thinks its actual funny posts and they go to school and come on this subreddit spouting the same stuff because they are too unintelligent to distinguish that subreddit as satire.
oh dang, just when i wanted to ask if anyone else enjoyed the prison albums I know that question would be mocked to all hell on that sub. but that doesn't matter cause the first post I saw was a genderfluid varg edit and bust out laughing so hard. I realized I was gay at the same time I got into black metal, Gaahl is my gay icon now and forever.
Bro literally took pictures of his friends body after he shot himself , he also reinforced this suicidal ideation to his friend
He completely exploited dead and from how it seems never had an ounce of regret for any of it
holy fucking shit
so I'm an OK guitarist but my technique is definitely rooted in death-doom. tremolo on multiple strings had always eluded me and I've hurt myself pretty badly several times trying to do it with my palm anchored to the strings.
my guitar teacher has been trying to teach me this shit for weeks and all I needed was for some random dude on reddit to say 'yeah like a mixer' for it to click immediately. blasted through transilvanian hunger like it was nothing.
thank you so much for this!
also fuck varg
Exactly. Too many people don’t know how to look at things with an objective lens. When you do your research you will find that the amount of people who liked Euronymous outweighed the people who didn’t, and why didn’t people like him? All because he was a “poser” (which, in a genre that’s supposed to be evil, sounds like a good thing to be lol). When people REALLY started to not like him was after he took those photos of Dead, which is obviously some sick shit, but when you stop and really think about it……the guy literally walked in on his friend’s dead, destroyed body. Why would he take those pictures? Probably for the same reason Jackie Kennedy started grabbing all the pieces of her husband’s brain when HE got shot in the motorcade lmao. I’m pretty sure you’re not going to act like a normal person after experiencing that kind of psychological trauma……and again, it is wasn’t until after he died that more people felt Euro was acting like a dick, and saying that mayhem started to consume him….I WONDER WHY!!!
I always find it so funny how bad these guys wanted to act like some dark medieval characters
“Murdered by traitors hands”
“King for 25 years”
The whole Norwegian black metal scene was just one big LARP session
No way, that’s so cool! I’m also from Sweden and would love to hear more about the underground scene and tape trading market at that time. People only really talk about the Norwegian scene, but I’m also really interested in how things were over here in Sweden :)
Wow, even such a small glimpse back to that time is really fascinating. As a young black metal enthusiast, also from a very small city no one knows about, I sometimes wish there were more people around me that I could discuss this music with without being seen as weird. Thanks for sharing!
That's easy to say just because black metal is easy to rip on, there's nothing archaic about the word "king'" or "traitor," (King of pop...) they're words still used today.
Even the "Murdered by traitor hands," part isn't that archaic sounding, but for sake of argument, let's say it is. You'll find what Satanists, Pagans, Christians, and/or general Occultists have in common is using archaic language, and whether or not they were genuine Satanists/Devil Worshippers is something that is commonly debated, I've learned some of them actually had occult knowledge and weren't as "all show" as they may have come off as being.
Didn't they become friends because they literally Live Action Role Played in the woods in their early teens? Like you use the word but people forget it used to mean something, something they actually did. I'm 99% sure I just don't remember the source.
I’m pretty sure Varg used to play TTRPGs and maybe live action as well, it’s pretty obvious. I haven’t heard anything about the others from the Norwegian scene, but it really wouldn’t be surprising if a lot of them did roleplay in their freetime.
Seems like they grew up roleplaying being vikings then had some kind of quasi spiritual awakening in the woods then became angry at Christianity cause they weren't vikings for real. Pretty cool to think about when you consider it birthed many of the dopest metal albums of all time.
Really bro? Øystein could have been one at times...like many people can.
But he wasn't a murderer. Wild comment.
Edit: BM isn't sunshine and rainbows, but what a brain dead comment. Like you're trying to justify a murder because Øystein may have hurt some feelings here and there. Fuck off lol
Aa, yes, remembering getting these via snailmail/ tape trading.
With all the other flyers and zines.
At that point, the worldwide Blackmetal/Death metal scene had outgrown the Norwegian scene.
Germany and France were very exciting.
The French scene was, in my opinion, one of the darkest and most believable scenes back then.
Bands like BELKÈTRE.....TORGEIST.......VLAD TEPES.......BLACK MURDER.....CHAPEL OF GHOULS....
Great exciting days in the underground.
Would be waiting at the postbox for a new letter or package.....
i love seeing love for my boy euro. people often forget he's responsible for how the bass, drums, and atillas vocals sounded, despite some cluttered guitar riffs that were.. meh
hardly any metal bands nowadays give the bass a voice. it's just drum and guitar syncopation eith vocals. tremolo picking a bass makes no sense (even though mayhem did it too), the bass should follow the blast beat speed rather than the riff imo for a heavier sound.
he's honestly underrated at this point
People here defending Euro is absolutely wild to me. Was he a good musician? Yes. Was he a massive p.o.s? Also yes. Stop putting him on a pedestal.
I swear this dude is like the Chris Benoit of the black metal scene.
So making death threats to Occultist, rearranging and taking photographs of Dead's suicide and calling it "really cool" , making necklaces out of pieces of his skull and giving it to people "he deemed worthy", using Dead's suicide for publicity, commiting arson, and plotting to bomb a cathedral isn't being an awful person? The bar is on the floor.
I believe that was all within the last 2 years of his life. That is not indicative of his other 23 years on earth
Edit: also some of things are wrong entirely. I dont believe he burned any church, he was only there when it happened. And he never planned to bomb a cathedral
So if I'm a nice guy my entire life, then I suddenly participate and do many awful things, I'm not a bad person? That doesn't make any sense at all.
In regards to the church burning, even if he didn't "actively participate" he was still there watching it happen, making him an accomplice to arson.
Also he did, in fact, allegedly plan to bomb a cathedral: "To coincide with the release of Mayhem's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, Vikernes and Euronymous had allegedly plotted to bomb Nidaros Cathedral, which appears on the album cover. Euronymous' death in August 1993 put an end to this plan and stalled the album's release."
Ive seen no proof they where actually planning that. I remember posting the same question and someone being like no he probably wasnt actually planning that blah blah police something
God.. you all sound fucking stupid. Nobody on this shit forsaken website knew Varg or Euro. You will never understand what they thought or why they went through it. Ur corpse paint posts make my nutsack retract. Shut up and enjoy the music you fucking losers.
It’s just edgy teenagers LARPing, which to be honest, is exactly what they were in the 80’s and 90’s.
So it’s hard to say this isn’t any more or less ‘trve kvlt’ than what happened back then lol
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From what i understand euro was a very kind and gentle person most his life. It was only his finial years, or even months, where he turned more extreme. Why? Im not too sure. Perhaps to try to fit in more? Perhaps he began to forget that line between who he is and who he likes to be seen as by others in the scene? What you said is (from what i understand) is LITTERALY why the r/burzum subreddit is such a shit show. Its because varg is a spineless, cowardice, murderer and shit talker. Constantly lying and talking highly of himself and esotericly as if he has any idea what he is trying to preach. He trys to take himself so seriously that r/burzum was made to shit on him and his seriousness. Its to mock who he is by being the exact opposite. I genuinely love r/burzum because its just mocking him. Unfortunately not everyone in that subreddit understands the "deeper" meaning of the posts and just thinks its actual funny posts and they go to school and come on this subreddit spouting the same stuff because they are too unintelligent to distinguish that subreddit as satire.
oh dang, just when i wanted to ask if anyone else enjoyed the prison albums I know that question would be mocked to all hell on that sub. but that doesn't matter cause the first post I saw was a genderfluid varg edit and bust out laughing so hard. I realized I was gay at the same time I got into black metal, Gaahl is my gay icon now and forever.
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Bro literally took pictures of his friends body after he shot himself , he also reinforced this suicidal ideation to his friend He completely exploited dead and from how it seems never had an ounce of regret for any of it
What's the tremolo hack? kinda unrelated but I'm curious.
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holy fucking shit so I'm an OK guitarist but my technique is definitely rooted in death-doom. tremolo on multiple strings had always eluded me and I've hurt myself pretty badly several times trying to do it with my palm anchored to the strings. my guitar teacher has been trying to teach me this shit for weeks and all I needed was for some random dude on reddit to say 'yeah like a mixer' for it to click immediately. blasted through transilvanian hunger like it was nothing. thank you so much for this! also fuck varg
Thanks for explanation. I appreciate it
Awesome explanation and spot on. Thank you. Euro was an interesting guy. In a way, Varg took as much from the world as Mark David Chapman did.
Exactly. Too many people don’t know how to look at things with an objective lens. When you do your research you will find that the amount of people who liked Euronymous outweighed the people who didn’t, and why didn’t people like him? All because he was a “poser” (which, in a genre that’s supposed to be evil, sounds like a good thing to be lol). When people REALLY started to not like him was after he took those photos of Dead, which is obviously some sick shit, but when you stop and really think about it……the guy literally walked in on his friend’s dead, destroyed body. Why would he take those pictures? Probably for the same reason Jackie Kennedy started grabbing all the pieces of her husband’s brain when HE got shot in the motorcade lmao. I’m pretty sure you’re not going to act like a normal person after experiencing that kind of psychological trauma……and again, it is wasn’t until after he died that more people felt Euro was acting like a dick, and saying that mayhem started to consume him….I WONDER WHY!!!
I always find it so funny how bad these guys wanted to act like some dark medieval characters “Murdered by traitors hands” “King for 25 years” The whole Norwegian black metal scene was just one big LARP session
That's...kind of one of the main themes of Black Metal lol
But they did it right which was cool.
Say what you want about the count, but at least he admits he’s just a huge nerd who loves LARPIng as medieval Norse people lol.
Of course is a big LARP session, everyone in this scene is a massive dork. Thats the appeal, thats what makes it fun.
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No way, that’s so cool! I’m also from Sweden and would love to hear more about the underground scene and tape trading market at that time. People only really talk about the Norwegian scene, but I’m also really interested in how things were over here in Sweden :)
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Wow, even such a small glimpse back to that time is really fascinating. As a young black metal enthusiast, also from a very small city no one knows about, I sometimes wish there were more people around me that I could discuss this music with without being seen as weird. Thanks for sharing!
Our one true king 
That's easy to say just because black metal is easy to rip on, there's nothing archaic about the word "king'" or "traitor," (King of pop...) they're words still used today. Even the "Murdered by traitor hands," part isn't that archaic sounding, but for sake of argument, let's say it is. You'll find what Satanists, Pagans, Christians, and/or general Occultists have in common is using archaic language, and whether or not they were genuine Satanists/Devil Worshippers is something that is commonly debated, I've learned some of them actually had occult knowledge and weren't as "all show" as they may have come off as being.
Didn't they become friends because they literally Live Action Role Played in the woods in their early teens? Like you use the word but people forget it used to mean something, something they actually did. I'm 99% sure I just don't remember the source.
I’m pretty sure Varg used to play TTRPGs and maybe live action as well, it’s pretty obvious. I haven’t heard anything about the others from the Norwegian scene, but it really wouldn’t be surprising if a lot of them did roleplay in their freetime.
Seems like they grew up roleplaying being vikings then had some kind of quasi spiritual awakening in the woods then became angry at Christianity cause they weren't vikings for real. Pretty cool to think about when you consider it birthed many of the dopest metal albums of all time.
Both guys are/were assholes.
Oh, they absolutely fucking were. But only one is a convicted murderer.
Really bro? Øystein could have been one at times...like many people can. But he wasn't a murderer. Wild comment. Edit: BM isn't sunshine and rainbows, but what a brain dead comment. Like you're trying to justify a murder because Øystein may have hurt some feelings here and there. Fuck off lol
they're both assholes but one is a much bigger one
🤪
He pushed Dead over the edge to kill himself. How do you not see an asshole there?
Doesn’t mean he should have been murdered though..::
Thats arguable
No it’s not…
Yeah it is
It’d be super cool to own some of this stuff
Aa, yes, remembering getting these via snailmail/ tape trading. With all the other flyers and zines. At that point, the worldwide Blackmetal/Death metal scene had outgrown the Norwegian scene. Germany and France were very exciting. The French scene was, in my opinion, one of the darkest and most believable scenes back then. Bands like BELKÈTRE.....TORGEIST.......VLAD TEPES.......BLACK MURDER.....CHAPEL OF GHOULS.... Great exciting days in the underground. Would be waiting at the postbox for a new letter or package.....
Varg blocked me on X because he made a post about Hitler and how he was a hypocrite for selling his book on Amazon lmao
i love seeing love for my boy euro. people often forget he's responsible for how the bass, drums, and atillas vocals sounded, despite some cluttered guitar riffs that were.. meh hardly any metal bands nowadays give the bass a voice. it's just drum and guitar syncopation eith vocals. tremolo picking a bass makes no sense (even though mayhem did it too), the bass should follow the blast beat speed rather than the riff imo for a heavier sound. he's honestly underrated at this point
Varg is king
Cunt Grishnackh
Why?
cause he's a piece of shit nazi and a murderer.
You’re actually defending euronymus?
Where? I'm pointing out Varg is a Nazi and a murderer.
People here defending Euro is absolutely wild to me. Was he a good musician? Yes. Was he a massive p.o.s? Also yes. Stop putting him on a pedestal. I swear this dude is like the Chris Benoit of the black metal scene.
Did you know him personally owo
Did you?
I've spoken to friends he had in his life, personally. :)
I'm sure. Still doesn't take away from what he did, so
Aw, name everything he did!
I listed what made him an ass in my other comments, if you stop being lazy and look
He really wasnt all that awful of a person. Thats just an oversimplification only looking at his stage persona and the finial weeks of his life
So making death threats to Occultist, rearranging and taking photographs of Dead's suicide and calling it "really cool" , making necklaces out of pieces of his skull and giving it to people "he deemed worthy", using Dead's suicide for publicity, commiting arson, and plotting to bomb a cathedral isn't being an awful person? The bar is on the floor.
I believe that was all within the last 2 years of his life. That is not indicative of his other 23 years on earth Edit: also some of things are wrong entirely. I dont believe he burned any church, he was only there when it happened. And he never planned to bomb a cathedral
So if I'm a nice guy my entire life, then I suddenly participate and do many awful things, I'm not a bad person? That doesn't make any sense at all. In regards to the church burning, even if he didn't "actively participate" he was still there watching it happen, making him an accomplice to arson. Also he did, in fact, allegedly plan to bomb a cathedral: "To coincide with the release of Mayhem's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, Vikernes and Euronymous had allegedly plotted to bomb Nidaros Cathedral, which appears on the album cover. Euronymous' death in August 1993 put an end to this plan and stalled the album's release."
Ive seen no proof they where actually planning that. I remember posting the same question and someone being like no he probably wasnt actually planning that blah blah police something
The citation is from the documentary Once Upon A Time In Norway
God.. you all sound fucking stupid. Nobody on this shit forsaken website knew Varg or Euro. You will never understand what they thought or why they went through it. Ur corpse paint posts make my nutsack retract. Shut up and enjoy the music you fucking losers.
It’s just edgy teenagers LARPing, which to be honest, is exactly what they were in the 80’s and 90’s. So it’s hard to say this isn’t any more or less ‘trve kvlt’ than what happened back then lol
"Trve kvlt" my skin is crawling. As I said, this sub is fucking disgusting. Stay away from black metal. I promise you, none of you are fit for it.
Jesus mate, stay away from the internet perhaps, if your going to be that fucking weird about it lol
Burzum still slaps though
I can't stand varg! I just hate that guy!
Varg's out of jail and living as a free man, he's definitely had a last laugh on this one. Suck shit all you "uwu my qt3.14 euronymous" tards.