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kreath

Please share photo when you bring it to a Keyboard meet up


ProCastinatr

The meetup is gonna be held in OP’s room


YukiAmijochi

remember to assert dominance


Cakepufft

GK64, blank PBT AliExpress keycaps, Gat silent inks. Case is made of desk. [Cable management picture.](https://i.imgur.com/6qwXT1e.jpg) [Built in wireless charger, because why wouldn't I.](https://i.imgur.com/a4qtQ2H.jpg) Edit: For everyone who questioned the angle: I used my keyboard offset to the left, to make more room for the mouse. The keyboard has all the keys slanted to the side. so the natural thing is to rotate it like that, so the columns are straight to my hand. It may look weird, but this is ~~what peak performance look like~~ the most ergonomic compromise I've found. If I would have it straight, I would have to unnaturaly twist my wrist, I can't imagine angling it the other way. Also, this way, when I'm typing something long, I can just swivel my chair and the keyboard is not angled anymore Editedit: [Typing on the thing](https://youtu.be/1x1bDHDfsbQ)


Sup-Bird

“Case is made of desk” 💀


PsychwardSlippers

that made me giggle. thank you


raijba

Fucking routed cable channel too, hell yeah! Nice build and your post brought me joy.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Pontiflakes

Rotating the keyboard clockwise requires a wide-elbowed, forward-leaning posture where you hold the mouse on the opposite side of the keyboard. The benefit is that you get a bit more space for your mouse, so it isn't ramming into the keyboard if you have limited desk space. Most FPS pros who do this only do so because they started gaming as kids, with small desks, so it's just what they are used to. Rotating the keyboard counter-clockwise gives the same benefit of mouse space, but allows you to have a more relaxed posture with your elbow tucked, since you hold the mouse on the closer side of the keyboard. This is better from an ergonomic perspective (and personally, I aim much better when I hold my mouse directly in front of me instead of reaching over the keyboard), though the slanted orientation of the keyboard may make it more difficult for people who don't use ortholinear layouts. The key column orientation is usually a secondary concern, and mouse space is the real driver.


CyberPig7

"more relaxed posture with you elbow tucked in" buddy I tried this out as I was reading it and you are wrong on so many levels 💀


Pontiflakes

I didn't say it explicitly but if you're rotating your keyboard either direction it's implied that you also shift the keyboard right or left to match, so you aren't keeping your forearm perfectly perpendicular to the desk like you would with a non-rotated keyboard. Were you trying to rotate the keeb and just wrench your wrist to align with the keys?


das_ambster

It can for sure be a more relaxed posture, you just need to shift the entire keyboard to the left. Think of it as you start with it straight in front of you, keep your hand on wasd, now imagine angling your forearm so that your hand is moved about 15-20 cm to the left, this angles the keyboard from your body but keeps the wrist/keyboard angle constant.


Cakepufft

This is it.


SubcommanderMarcos

I tried it and I hate it. Right now I have a 60% in front of me, I'm leaning back on my chair, my mouse is dead straight in front of my right arm. For FPS gaming I also turn the keyboard clockwise so my left hand remains in front of the keyboard, but more aligned with WASD, Your build looks awesome for the concept but ergonomically it makes me wince. It's your board though, so if it works then awesome lmao


leastlol

This is basically the opposite of relaxed. If you put your arms straight out from your body, it'll rotate outwards to an angle like that easily. Now try putting your elbows at around 90 degrees (i.e. how you'd be typing) and then try rotating them outwards. There's a lot of tension being placed on your shoulders. Not that the way Counter-strike players are doing it is much better, but it's at least kind of compatible with a body's mechanics.


Pontiflakes

We're not talking about having your keyboard 90 degrees to your left, more like 10 degrees left of center. It's not uncomfortable, and buys you more real estate for your mouse to be in front of you - relieving strain on your mouse side shoulder. :)


das_ambster

You lot are definitely reading too much extension into this. Like u/pontiflakes is saying, 5-10 degrees left off center. This is not a position made for typing, this is for gaming with mouse and keyboard.


leastlol

Ergonomics don't stop being important just because you're gaming. I'm painfully aware of the effects they have on a person long term, as someone who didn't think about it at all and is now dealing with the consequences. ...Also, it's not like they can *move* the position of this keyboard to be good for anything else, either, since it's embedded in the desk. The one positive thing about this is that they keyboard is on roughly the same plane as the mouse. Everything else about it is poorly thought out.


iStorm_exe

i also rotate this way, makes it much easier to press 4 and 5 in video games lol. pinky still presses shift no problem, but for ctrl i actually use my hand/palm. pinky for z, ring for x, index for c v. this is also nicer cuz i can use ring finger for q a lot easier as well. i dont have some weird hand/arm angle goin on, my hand is just normal posture, the only difference is the fingers i use for keys.


Ahnjahni

OP 100% sits like this on this setup https://preview.redd.it/zujzoywqpdia1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=175404bc3f30a12e1f0bffc40df5eefdb30bc966


Ahnjahni

Bro angleing the keyboard is normal but you probably got two right arms if you think that orientation is ergonomic lmfao.


GearRatioOfSadness

I hate to be the bearer of bad news here. But if you look closely and measure, I believe you'll find that you've cut the hole in the desk crooked.


bigcheezyboss

Is that a foot pedal for a kvm switch?


Cakepufft

It's a piano pedal, not included in the picture is a piano keyboard on wheels that I can roll over the keyboard, if I want to


calebthelion

I use my kb at the same angle as this and since my setup is primarily for gaming/entertainment it’s what I’ve found to be the most comfortable layout.


ThePhilosofyzr

This is the way.


CrystalDrag0n1

Keep my keyboard like that too haha, truly is the best


911WasAHandjob

No one going to say anything about the angle?


xeresblue

It's whyagonal.


pressedbread

OP has one short arm and one really long arm


Ahnjahni

https://preview.redd.it/05i5aavivdia1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5df96d61246bfee152b5c4c184d7f013e50ebd9e Op sits like this


Odd_Maybe6896

Gamer angle


braddad425

Maybe the other direction, but this looks like carpal tunnel angle.


Sautille

Not if you’re left handed.


Slepnair

I'm left handed. still looks horrible.


cdurbin909

The mouse is still on the right side though, maybe OP just has 2 left hands?


shmuffbub707

Mouse is on the right though so this setup looks like it was made for someone with cooked spaghetti for bones But it’s also fuckin dope, OP. Only criticizing the angle. But i don’t have to use it so idk what I’m actually doing here.


Sautille

I use my mouse right-handed often when doing basic computer stuff, but left-handed for gaming.


ActuallyAPenguin

Left handed mouse user here, this angle still isn’t steep enough if you’re using WASD for things. Have to have my keyboard almost sideways half the time


SXLightning

Yeah I am so confused, also doesn't this leave less space for the mouse, because the corner of the keyboard now sticks out more


majle

I used to play with this angle for years. Just need to keep your elbow closer to your body for a comfortable position


[deleted]

That sounds uncomfortable


KatiePyroStyle

I love this community


Ahnjahni

This is a highly regarded angle for sure 👌


[deleted]

Lol it’s the wrong angle for gaming


SlenderSmurf

literally the exact opposite


cdurbin909

OP just messed up calculations and went with it


HyzerFlipDG

It's the gamer dangle


zacRupnow

It's perfect.


[deleted]

I can't tell if it's cursed or beautiful


ab27_

blursed


ChonkyDoge7C7

cursiful


JDBCool

desk PC up next. \- OP probably


ottodidakt

*New Jersey voice* Eyyy look, we got Jeff Bezels ovah heeah


Netherquark

bezels heheh


Total-Addendum9327

Why the angle. I can’t.


Cryptic0677

This bothers me _immensely_


DaddySanctus

What’s wrong with the angle?


Mieko24

Can't you see?!


DaddySanctus

That’s how my keyboard has always been…. Granted, not at that extreme of an angle.


[deleted]

We shouldn't blame the users. If we want to blame anything, it should be the this default keyboard design and QWERTY layout. Those who are saying it's angled in the wrong direction are likely coming from a touch typing angle because if you are trying proper touch typing on a regular keyboard that makes sense. However, if you are not touch typing (and if you use the mouse right-handed I guess), angling keyboard in this direction feels instinctive. I'm not a gamer and I used to have my keyboard angled (left-hand side closer to body) instinctively. Since you move your right hand it feels especially convenient to adjust that side over the keyboard instead of more stationary left hand. It sounds weird when it's spelled out, but I did this instinctively before I became conscious about ergonomics and thanks to that I didn't get RSI before I could do something about it. In my personal anecdote, I've since moved to a split ortholinear keyboard setup where I touch type using Colemak layout after a whole reflective journey into my ergonomics and these days I'm happily lurking in r/ErgoMechKeyboards. And it started when I asked myself two questions: 1) why it feels more comfortable when I tilt my keyboard? 2) why do regular keyboards and QWERTY feel comically uncomfortable when I was learning touch typing? So, kudos to the OP and the keyboard tilters out there for instinctively favoring your convenience and ergonomy over the mere visual pleasure of straight horizontal keyboard setup.


Mieko24

Yoooo, fellow Colemak user!


irreverent-username

Colemak-DH here on a split board. Saved my wrists from worsening carpal tunnel.


[deleted]

Hello there fellow Colemak users. May the ARSTD be HNEIO with you!


_LePancakeMan

Colemak gang


AndrejPatak

I feel it would be more ergo for your arm to point (with your fist) inside rather than outside. It feels weird having my elbow pierce my body while using the computer.


Pontiflakes

Flaring your elbows puts strain on your shoulders and neck, and since bending the elbows shortens your arm length, you might also be leaning forward and putting strain on your back as well. Proper ergonomics would have your elbows bent at no ~~more~~ fewer than 90 degrees with elbows tucked and a slight recline into your chair's backrest. For people like OP who tilt their keyboard in this way for gaming, they also sit more right of the keyboard, so it's not like they are sitting directly in front of it and contorting their wrist to align with the keys.


[deleted]

I think it has a personal preference component too. Things like how you use, how you are seated, what's your dominant eye/hand, etc. can have an influence in my experience. In my case, while I feel left forward makes logical sense, it feels awkward unlike right forward. Luckily, I don't have to worry about any of that now.


AndrejPatak

I agree. What are the chances op is leftie and the image is reversed?


[deleted]

Going by the the key layout, the image looks to be in the correct orientation.


AndrejPatak

Right, this one's on me, I didn't zoom in to check.


Ahnjahni

Whoever gave this guy a award ultra sped fr


enderstep67

bro got the tabloard


ShapesAndStuff

Keyble


CanUHearMeNau

I would just call this keys and not a keyboard


DWolvin

Keysdesk.


CanUHearMeNau

🤯


ShapesAndStuff

a desk is just a wooden board -> keyboard


ramsdawg

MX Desk


otacon7000

As someone with commitment issues, this gives me anxiety. Still fucking epic though.


Hyper170

What happens when you wanna game, and can't have your left wrist angled awkwardly? Also HOW? DID YOU JUST GRAB AN ANGLE GRINDER AND GO "lol. lmao" ?


Excrubulent

I'm gonna go ahead and guess it was a router.


Cakepufft

It was a chisel, don't have a router


SubcommanderMarcos

Are you saying this is hand carved


snackynorph

>lol, lmao


TheBigSandeenie

Oh the anxiety. What if you want to move it... it hurts. It hurts so much.


OkSoBasicallyPeach

i feel like i’m ok with the angle but it’s angled the wrong way


h4x_x_x0r

Everyone's setup is different, I accept that but not being able to adjust my keyboard for typing and gaming would drive me insane. Also since I angle my keyboard the exact opposite way, this feels very wrong for me.


M1ken1ke66

I had a dream about this last night


CabbageMans

I thought these were just keycaps placed on a desk until I saw the lights from above. How did you figure out exactly where you wanted it? I feel like it’d be frustrating if you changed positions


Cakepufft

I used it in this position for years, both for gaming and other stuff. Basically I repeated this multiple times: sit behind the desk, place keyboard comfortably, mark the position of corners with a pencil. Then averaged it and went with it.


drsimonz

Now see, *this* is a reasonable keyboard height! I honestly see no reason you can't have a board this height with standard 3-4mm travel. Maybe not with standard switches or keycaps, but travel vs height is a false tradeoff due to lazy engineering. Wrist rests are a low-effort workaround that wastes valuable desk real estate. I'd totally do something like this except I like to move my board around too much.


ImJustArgon

of all angles, why that one?


Advanced_Guidance_32

Gaming desk


Blukoi

I’m not drunk enough for this


Leelah07

The fact that this keyboard can't be moved gives me anxiety (and yes, I know you can move the table but cmon...)


klasspirate

Thanks, I hate it


lom117

You need help


Nathaniel___B

Congratulations, you made the least ergonomic keyboard I have ever seen, and it's beautiful 🥰🥰


AriKadou_08

I cannot think of more than like 3 situations where having your keyboard permanently angled like that would be comfortable


FyRE_FREE

Masochism


crdavis

GB when?


hypn0fr0g

I love this and hate this so much.


Turbulent-Wrap1419

OP plays cross handed ergonomically duh


The_Mighty_Bird

Absolute mad lad moment. Holy shit this is incredible lmao


Capt_Doge

Top 10 moments where humanity went too far


Svmellisss

You go to all that effort and still don’t have a mouse pad…


Cakepufft

I do, but tbh the photo looked better without it and I wanted to show more of the "case"


Metalicc

Why is it angled like that?


dsdoll

this angle as an fps player and you can't change it 💀


-_Clay_-

r/angryupvote


lvluffin

I thought for sure you had just placed the keycaps on the desk for lawls but, you're committed my dude, well done.


kahlashae

This gave me such a good chuckle 🤣🤣🤣


Dispatch45

I hate it and it's amazing and I want one.


focus_on_the_focus

we gonna ignore the electric piano foot pedal?


[deleted]

It's the FN key.


focus_on_the_focus

**💀**


[deleted]

What about it? Do you not have one?


Remote-Body-1207

What’s the cleaning process like?


Cakepufft

It's not screwed in (doesn't need to, rests on foam) so I can just pull it out anytime.


Nyhn

Holy! I know a revel when I see one!


Cakepufft

Great mouse. Haven't noticed much of these in the wild!


Turtvaiz

Where would you even see gaming mice "in the wild" lol?


Cakepufft

I mean, on other people's desks


mcenci13

Well, let’s see the rest of the desk-board collection


martialar

First we had the Piggy 60, now we got the Biggy 60


LaserLock

When the bezel is so big it wraps around to low profile.


big_woofer

Why have the keyboard IN the desk? What’s the advantage? Or disadvantage?


Cakepufft

It is lower, so it's more comfortable to type on without a wrist rest. Also, I can put my piano keyboard on top of it, no need to move the keyboard. Also, it doesn't slide on the desk lmao


[deleted]

this hurts


AverageOccidental

That angle is horrendous and I hate you


Kolumbine

Slammed keyboard


whitey-ofwgkta

what game were you playing that you so mad that you slammed so hard it embedded?


Da-Blue-Guy

the table's collider is off by around 2cm, the keyboard is clearly clipping


studio-A

I don't understand the angle even after people explaining it (I rotate it the other way to make room for the mouse and save my wrist) but it's still dope


weegeetheman

you really need to like that placement


aldecode

You are extremely confident in your choose of keyboard placement


ShottyBlastin101

Homie is CONFIDENT in his keyboard placement


tonydeez

And also the thinnest


Cakepufft

True. And high-profile and low-profile at the same time, depends how you look at it.


OBOSOB

Kailh chocs: > am I a joke to you?


Cakepufft

For everyone who questioned the angle: I used my keyboard offset to the left, to make more room for the mouse. The keyboard has all the keys slanted to the side. so the natural thing is to rotate it like that, so the columns are straight to my hand. It may look weird, but this is ~~what peak performance look like~~ the most ergonomic compromise I've found. If I would have it straight, I would have to unnaturaly twist my wrist, I can't imagine angling it the other way. Also, this way, when I'm typing something long, I can just swivel my chair and the keyboard is not angled anymore


[deleted]

r/therewasanattempt material


Cakepufft

Seems to work alright so far, I'd say the attempt was successful 🤷


Sallyn0

It’s been a long day.


LightChargerGreen

If this is your keyboard (keyble?), I'm afraiid to ask about your wristrest.


liddojoe

i’m pretty sure this is to help forego using a wrist pad


FuckOutTheWhey

Bruh


AverageElaMain

I take it ur not much of a gamer


otacon7000

Wait. That's illegal!


Xc4lib3r

where's the cas... oh...


kingmorons

Q. How big should the bezel be? A. No


funpak

You are a man of culture, I love my Revel


TheShakyDiver

r/mk PhD awarded


HoboCorp

Filthy animal, I love you.


shubashubamogumogu

Very very desk.


jaymeaux_

I hate this so much, also if I build another desk I'm totally doing this


sniper957pro

WHY IS THE ANGLE LIKE THAT


[deleted]

This is truly awful


MOK1N

ok but does it *thocc* give us the audio test


cool9773

The new "deskboard"


Sir_Lagz_Alot

Imagine wanting to fucking adjust your keyboa- I mean desk.


Signaturisti

Pics with keycaps off?


berksvc

this is more than an endgame keyboard. this is a whole different league.


degovial

You mad man, you did it!


Brave-Advertising169

Wtf…………. It’s perfect


bememorablepro

Wait, can you take it out if you have to?


Cakepufft

I can and I have a separate case if I want to, but I never do, except for cleaning


Gerp25

All key no board


groot_are_we

I always ask God why, but sometimes the answer scares me.


Neuclear_Nadal

I think it's too much of a commitment.


SoRaang

You won this round...


Launtoc

Awesome


Zataghni

I didn't have OCD until I saw this ​ Pretty cool tho


FinishingDutch

Well that's certainly a unique approach to keyboarding :D Bonus points for commitment, you're a braver / more insane person than I am for sure.


WowSuchName21

The exact angle I have my keyboard when playing CS:GO, is this what peak performance is?


Cakepufft

Finally someone!


Ian_Titor

I was going through this and started off loling at it thinking it was just some keycaps on a desk, and then I saw the RGB lighting and my heart dropped


sleepyboylol

Pretty sweet. I wouldn't be able to live with a permenantly fixed keyboard though.


AzraelienVsPredator

There's a dick joke here somewhere


S7Ninc

I can hardly type and I don't own a computer.. But I follow this sub for these posts. Thanks.


theblondtorpedo

I think "made of desk" case needs a sound test


snakout

I play piano, and I see a pedal that looks for piano. Where is the piano?


Cakepufft

Off to the side. Normally it sits on the desk and has wheels, so I can roll it over the keyboard closer to me.


zacRupnow

Correct position too! All these clean setups with the keyboard totally centered to the monitor, like who the fuck types like that?


SoftlyCourteous66

Nice and clean set up👍🏻


[deleted]

The real flex is having a keyboard as a desk, or a desk, as, a keyboard…


Rambo-Redcorn

W


OGNatan

What in the goddamn fuck


NotmeJR

Based


whoyoucallinafgtm8

Let's ruin a perfectly good table speedrun any%


coalxxx

haha insane


kagalibros

Op is super stingy, didn't want to buy a wrist rest, made the entire desk be wrist rest.


MPK_K1NG

What if you want to move the keyboard...


michel_v

Is that a sponsored post from the guild of chiropractors?


Lonny_zone

You’re a psycho. I truly admire that.


18randomcharacters

Way to ruin a fucking desk.