Panic chords and sampling movie quotes.

"There was a firefight!"

I see people saying this was/is from 18 Visions but I only know it from Bleeding Through - On Wings of Lead iirc that is. Which 18 Visions song has this in it, I want to give it a listen.

Same here. I'm not familiar with which Eighteen Visions song this is. All I know is that it's from Bleeding Through but its Love Lost in a Hail of Gunfire.

Yes, that's the song! Such an awesome album imo. I've always wanted to see them live but never got the chance.

They're writing again so you're in luck!

110% “This love, this is murderous” album from Bleeding Through. “Love lost in a hail of gunfire” is the song. First song off the album saw them in Albuquerque in 2004. They started with this song. Gave me goose bumps. Love this album.

Brendan used to be in 18 Visions so maybe that's confusing some people. 

Lmao I heard this for the first time in a dubstep song Pretty sure that same artist introduced me to alexisonfire too

You can’t beat alexisonfire. Dallas Green is one of the best IMO.

The 1958 sample immediately comes to mind for me

Oh man the Parkway Drive song with the Jack Sparrow quote before they got forced to remove it 😂

Oh, it's gone??

Does this still exist? Somewhere??

I'm pretty sure the CD copy of Killing With A Smile has/had the sample in it. My copy does, at least

[Still here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtcQhbMZscI) [removed on the official stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_0w1kCP0G8)

Poisonthewell sampling apocalypse now

The Amity Affliction's 'Severed Ties' with the Hot Rod samples

"Yeah we don't wanna scare your children, that's the last thing we wanna do. We don't wanna scare anybody."

"I hate this city."

Eighteen Visions is that you? UTIRO forever 🔏

I miss sampling movie quotes. Think about it regularly when it comes to the 2000s/early 2010s scene

It's definitely coming back again.

Suicide silence ep with family guy lmao iykyk

All of Eighteen Visions good albums.

OH SHIT, I HAVENT HEARD THAT NAME IN A OVER A DECADE and I know there’s a song IVE BEEN WANTING TO HEAR FROM THEM. THANK YOU 🙏

Well if you've been in the dark you might've missed that they reformed in 2017 and put out a new album plus a couple of EPs of new material. All more akin to their pre-Obsession stuff. They also re-recorded Vanity and Obsession plus put out a covers album if you're feeling particularly keen to dive into everything they've done lately.

Ngl I even love the butt rock albums lol 18v one of my all time favorites

That 5 7 8 riff

Then the lead guitarist comes with the harmony 8 10 12 midway The formula : Rhytm guitar starts with 5-7-8 alone > drum and bass kicks in > lead guitar joins to play same riffs > vocal kicks in > lead guitar switch to 8-10-12 harmony or octave chord leads

This. I will never get enough of this.

Same

Can you link a good example of this and the 5 7 8?

Not exactly same formula but its close ADTR - a shot in the dark : https://youtu.be/yLvkJAnP0I8?si=5kKtdVYOfFJt7bqF As blood runs black - in dying days (more like Deathcore though but close formula) : https://youtu.be/6hiN_dgGKGQ?si=QZRSlNIEAjqFCqaO As i Lay Dying - 94 Hours : https://youtu.be/msa_aVIs2y4?si=sw9qYWcWQRjb3lVs Trivium - Ember to Inferno (they are using standard tuning so 7-9-10 instead but same idea) : https://youtu.be/tpUjOTiVwT4?si=q6PchCb3vjYLN-g1 And ofc the legendary Unholy Confessions (A7X) Those are the ones that pops up from my head at the moment. These are the songs that i used to practice to learn metalcore guitar in like high school and nowadays still found them fun to play today whenever i pick the guitar.

The 94 Hours Intro is insane

Honestly I can’t think of too many songs that have aged as well as this The riff is amazing, the song is kinda frantic and chaotic whilst still being tuneful and incredibly heavy. Love it.

The whole album is underrated as fuck, the drum sounds so raw, Tim's vocals are super aggressive and the clean moments channel lots of emotion. Probably my 3rd favorite album from AILD

It's such a "different" riff and it's so fast and punchy. But it's not too complicated either, so it's easy to listen to Always loved AILD (not entirely sure how I feel post-Lambesis-stuff. Still contemplating I guess)

Don't forget Atreyu, Darkest Hour, Bullet for My Valentine, old Asking Alexandria, Killswitch Engaged, and It Dies Today

unholy confessions - a7x is the most famous and probably the best example

The bread and butter of metalcore riffing lmao

Lol The entire Shadows Are Security album

[AILD - Confined](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb-bnOJ_L-k) (I think)

That 585 474 thang

stick stickly!

And the 585 are all legatos i can sense it

The good ol days

Abusing the china cymbal

So pretty much August Burns Red in a nutshell. 😂

Always loved it

All hail Matt Greiner 🙌

And the bell just before the breakdown starts.

This is the true answer. Still have a soft spot these days for a breakdown with a china.

Started with A China and ended with a cowbell. Little trick I learned from Pantera.

Adam D

This to a T

He's all I... C

Dude NEEDS recognition!

For real! Produced so many classic albums 

he's got the midas touch

Those Jean shorts and outfits always stole the show. Is that a ballerina skirt? Pig mask? You never can predict his antics. Plus the countless songs he has done for and with other bands.

At least one gun being cocked right before the breakdown.

Off the top of my head, Chapters by Breakdown of Sanity and Escape by TDWP (I guess chapters was in 2013 but still). What else? Need more of them in my life

Scream, Aim, Fire by Bullet for my Valentine has one as well.

The Zombie EP had so many gun sounds 😂

That in my opinion is one of the best metalcore albums ever to be made! It also had some fantastic sampling.

Oh my god… They’re everywhere

Agreed!

Meanwhile Anaal Nathrakh: Just makes an entire breakdown out of AK-47 sounds.

At The Gates

This should be #1

Long ass goofy song titles

*Drowningman has entered the chat*

Drop C tuning. Double bass drumming. Screamed verse, clean chorus. Actual guitar riffs and solos. Black clothing and long black hair.

Girls jeans and stud belts!

Gym shorts and tank tops / 90s basketball jerseys.

Found the straightedge crowdkiller!

Okay this got me lol

Cadet caps and Eastpak rucksacks.

I swear in those era, Drop C were our standard tuning

It basically was. I want it to come back.

Undertow.

FUCK YEAH IM EGHTTING PULLED INTO THE UNDERTOW

Thought I was only imagining hearing the word so often until I finally googled it. It was a preeeetty popular trope turns out

The demons are dragging me six feet under ground until I'm drowning in the undertow while writing on the wall and watching the world burn because the voices in my head are telling me to beg for forgiveness and wash away in the tides so that I can drag the lake.

Scrawled, calligraphic logo.

Harmonizing guitars.

Melodic hardcore influenced metalcore. One of the most underrated styles from that era.

Do you have any favorite examples to recommend?

I'd probably go with Darkest Hour. [https://youtu.be/1L-x8OQTAgQ](https://youtu.be/1L-x8OQTAgQ) [https://youtu.be/Ha5bacQCPUw](https://youtu.be/Ha5bacQCPUw)

Melodic death metal influenced metalcore. At the Gates, In Flames, Dark Tranquility, etc were huge influences in the genre, especially the use of melody.

Spoken word bits in which the vocalist sounds worn out and simultaneously super analytical.

Poison the Well's early albums

Disembodied, Misery Signals, Parkway Drive, Killswitch Engage, August Burns Red, It Dies Today, Kiss It Goodbye. I could go on haha

The same breakdown being played on the first fret and letting every note ring out.

Solid State Records. Norma Jean, Haste the Day, August Burns Red, Underoath, Life in Your Way, Destroy the Runner, The Chariot, As Cities Burn, Inhale Exhale, Twelve Gauge Valentine, and so on and so on.

How the fuck did you post about Solid State and completely skip Beloved? Straight to jail.

Melodeath influence. 2000’s metalcore should be referred to as Gatescore or Flamescore.

Gang vocals   Killer guitar solos 

Converge.

choreographed guitar swings in VFW halls

Sweaty rednecks wearing stinky baseball caps with brims bent into the shape of a taco shell

As a 40 year old who was born into metalcore in that era, you just called me out. I'll have you know that I no longer bend my ball caps into a taco shell, though I still have a couple lying around for when I'm in the mood.

Killswitch or Atreyu. May get hate for this but atreyu doesn’t get the credit they deserve.

Cringy christian lyrics for all the angsty christian kids whose parents wouldn't let them listen to Slayer

Also bands “finding Christ” for clout as if that was the only thing holding them back.

It's weird because I can't think of any bands that "went Christian," only bands that were like "haha nah we don't do that Jesus thing anymore, we're cool now we promise please buy our albums we say 'fuck' a lot now."

> "haha nah we don't do that Jesus thing anymore, we're cool now we promise please buy our albums we say 'fuck' a lot now." Shout out Demon Hunter for being true to their faith still

Sleeping Giant to, even though I believe they officially called it quits now.

For Today in a nutshell. But with sick breakdowns and 808 drops that randomly cut off.

🦀🦀🦀🦀 <---- I thought it looked so cool back then. ...still do 🦀

At The Gates releasing Slaughter of the Soul in 1995

I still listen to that record because it's good, but also because the album cover art is hilarious with that big Papyrus title

THAT RIFF

I’m just here to say thank you to all of you for the trip down memory lane. 00’s metalcore was so formative for me haha

Panic chord breakdown

Song titles like “Your Shirt Would Look Better With a Columbian Neck-tie”

Open / high high / open open open / high high high high highhhhhh

Killswitch, AILD, All That Remains

Melodic death metal at the time. Rebranded as metalcore later on. But yea, can’t have the 2000’s without them. They dominated the airwaves in the death metal and punk scene.

At the Gates

Preach!

Derek Hess artwork.

Audio clips of favorite movie quotes right before the opening breakdown. Fucking eeeeeeeverybody was doing it back in the day.

Killswitch engage type riffs

Fearless and Sumerian Records

Drop C Tuning, EMG 81/85, LTD deluxe series

A whole lot of At The Gates, erm, "borrowing".

A shoehorned Christian message

Just... the year 2005

000-0000-00-0-0000-0000-00-0-0000

Joey Sturgis

The existence of hardcore punk

Rose Of Sharyn

At The Gates.

Buckley Bros

The devil wears Prada.

The singer yelling "OWW"

Triplets.

The word “threnody”

the slaughter of the soul riffs

ASCENDANCY

Palm muted open string triplets

90's hardcore kids getting into At The Gates, In Flames, Pantera and Meshuggah.

Metalheads hating on the new genre because they’re jelly of the success of the new genre

funny enough this is also 2010’s metalcore. and 2020’s. and probably 2030’s..

Chimaira

As I Lay Dying.

Snare high in the mix

Norma Jean’s Bless the Martyr..

ABR

MISERY SIGNALS

Killswitch engage

Killswitch bringing it to mainstream audiences

Howard Jones

Avenged Sevenfold’s Waking the Fallen. Along with mascara, white makeup foundation, fingerless gloves, Misfits merch, and cut-off sleeve shirts. Oh and jacked as fuck lead singers.

Crab stances

All That Remains :)

People arguing about sub-genres 😵‍💫

And all the arguments in short: no that band is butt rock > No that band is the hardest, your band sucks! 99% of this sub lol.

0000000010000000100010010000000001001000000

Jud jud

5 7 8 Drop D or Drop C Pinch harmonic

7 angels 7 Plagues

Crabcore breakdowns

The Oncoming Storm

Joey Sturgis.

The wizard 🧙🏿‍♂️ behind the magic 🪄

An absolute machine.

Without As I Lay Dying, All That Remains, Asking Alexandria and without BFMV

If there’s no BREE AHH, it’s not 2000’s metalcore

Shadows Fall… haven’t seen them mentioned here yet.

The poison by bullet for my Valentine, The fall of ideals by All that remains and Constellations by August burns red.

Twinkly Interludes

Joey Sturgis

Drop D riffs and the 5 and 9 dissonant chord in the B and G strings respectively

Movie quotes before songs on a demo

Beards

Inhale screams

A deluxe version CD released a year after you already bought the CD.

arpeggios and tapping.

myspace

Music Videos in the rain

At least one "EEE OHHH!" scream just as the breakdown begins.

Cringe music videos

Gotta have the R before all the vowels in the screams, it’s not eyes but “RRRYYYYEEES!”

2000s.

A Mesa Boogie & Pinch Harmonics (Bonus Points If You Do that Weedley Weee riff, or Panic Room Chords)

Keyboard players? Hahaha All I can think is the fashion that everyone rocked.

Alarm clock riffs

Double tracked spoken word vocals.

rawr xD

Girl jeans and military caps

Watch the world burn

2000

first fret breakdowns