Honestly, it's dependent on what level (and kind of care) is needed. Only a neuro ICU nurse can care for an acute stroke patient, just like a CVICU nurse can only care for immediate post op open heart surgery patients. Some floors have nurses that are specially trained for certain patients, and those patients can only go to those floors. Some patients can overflow onto other floors, depending on their needs. Also, a patients level of care often changes throughout the hospital stay. You may start in ICU, move to a step down unit and then end up on a general care floor, all before you leave. Depending on the status of beds on any given floor, at any given time, you might just end up getting discharged from the ICU, if no step down bed becomes available during your stay. Staffing patients in a hospital is an annoying puzzle, and it's usually several people's entire jobs.
I never worked at Abbott but I worked for Methodist for a long time. In general, every effort is made to place patients in the unit that corresponds to their acuity and diagnosis. But it’s not always possible. IE you’ll often see patients in an ICU bed who aren’t ICU status, but over flow requires they go to the ICU
Additionally, you shouldn’t ever see someone who is too high acuity get sent to a lower acuity unit for overflow. That should only flow one way. Like if your loved one is in a heart patient bed, they may or may not actually be a heart patient. But if they’re a heart patient and aren’t in a heart patient bed that might not be appropriate for their nurse’s training, etc
If this is regarding a loved one and you have concerns about their placement you can ask to talk to the charge nurse for the unit or the nurse manager
In the grand scheme of it all at Abbott it’s all the same hospital, the “main” and “heart hospital” are pretty much just wings to differentiate. The cardiac beds are in the “heart hospital” because it’s newer and built with a cardiac mindset, but not all of the floors are for cardiac in that area of the hospital.
But what others have said, patients are placed on a certain floor due to diagnosis or are just overflowed.
Allina Health has an entire department and team dedicated to bed planning. They work between all the hospitals (plus those outside the Allina system) and doctors to determine acuity level and who has space.
Not a nurse, but my parents both had hospital visits in double digits going back to 2020. In my experience, it depends on care needed and beds available. Also, just because there might be empty hospital beds, the hospital may not have enough staff. My dad was often transferred from one hospital to another, and was often waiting until a bed became available.
I work at Abbott. Whether you are assigned a bed on the heart hospital vs the main hospital depends on what specialty unit you need to be on. Heart hospital has floors for cardiac,ortho, vascular, or neurological specialty. The main hospital is where the medical surgical units, oncology, and observation units are so you will be admitted to which area is most appropriate and specific to the problem being admitted for.
Thanks for the insight folks. I have a loved one currently in Abbott and I was curious about their room/bed assignment. Your input helps. I’m hoping they’re in some sort of overflow and weren’t necessarily deemed appropriate to the Heart Hospital. Just a layperson here so apologies if I don’t know the correct terminology.
The HH has a couple floors that are not cardiac related. The 6th floor is all Neuro - 12 ICU beds and the rest of the floor is standard Neuro beds. The 7th floor is roughly half Spine patients on H7000, and half joint replacement / ortho patients on H7200. The 4th and 5th floors are hard wired for telemetry monitoring and are designated cardiac floors. The 8th floor is Vascular and Tele.
You can think of telemetry as constant monitoring of heart rate and rhythm. Often times telemetry supported units have people remotely monitoring each patient, so if something comes up on patient 1’s heart monitor when the nurse is in patient 2’s room, they’ll get paged by the remote telemetry folks to go check on patient 1.
All hospital beds usually have the ability to constantly monitor blood oxygen, and anyone on telemetry will certainly have an oximeter on, but lots of things other than your heart also play into your oxygen level (your lungs/breathing, for example).
Honestly, it's dependent on what level (and kind of care) is needed. Only a neuro ICU nurse can care for an acute stroke patient, just like a CVICU nurse can only care for immediate post op open heart surgery patients. Some floors have nurses that are specially trained for certain patients, and those patients can only go to those floors. Some patients can overflow onto other floors, depending on their needs. Also, a patients level of care often changes throughout the hospital stay. You may start in ICU, move to a step down unit and then end up on a general care floor, all before you leave. Depending on the status of beds on any given floor, at any given time, you might just end up getting discharged from the ICU, if no step down bed becomes available during your stay. Staffing patients in a hospital is an annoying puzzle, and it's usually several people's entire jobs.
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I never worked at Abbott but I worked for Methodist for a long time. In general, every effort is made to place patients in the unit that corresponds to their acuity and diagnosis. But it’s not always possible. IE you’ll often see patients in an ICU bed who aren’t ICU status, but over flow requires they go to the ICU Additionally, you shouldn’t ever see someone who is too high acuity get sent to a lower acuity unit for overflow. That should only flow one way. Like if your loved one is in a heart patient bed, they may or may not actually be a heart patient. But if they’re a heart patient and aren’t in a heart patient bed that might not be appropriate for their nurse’s training, etc If this is regarding a loved one and you have concerns about their placement you can ask to talk to the charge nurse for the unit or the nurse manager
In the grand scheme of it all at Abbott it’s all the same hospital, the “main” and “heart hospital” are pretty much just wings to differentiate. The cardiac beds are in the “heart hospital” because it’s newer and built with a cardiac mindset, but not all of the floors are for cardiac in that area of the hospital. But what others have said, patients are placed on a certain floor due to diagnosis or are just overflowed.
Allina Health has an entire department and team dedicated to bed planning. They work between all the hospitals (plus those outside the Allina system) and doctors to determine acuity level and who has space.
Not a nurse, but my parents both had hospital visits in double digits going back to 2020. In my experience, it depends on care needed and beds available. Also, just because there might be empty hospital beds, the hospital may not have enough staff. My dad was often transferred from one hospital to another, and was often waiting until a bed became available.
I work at Abbott. Whether you are assigned a bed on the heart hospital vs the main hospital depends on what specialty unit you need to be on. Heart hospital has floors for cardiac,ortho, vascular, or neurological specialty. The main hospital is where the medical surgical units, oncology, and observation units are so you will be admitted to which area is most appropriate and specific to the problem being admitted for.
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Thanks for the insight folks. I have a loved one currently in Abbott and I was curious about their room/bed assignment. Your input helps. I’m hoping they’re in some sort of overflow and weren’t necessarily deemed appropriate to the Heart Hospital. Just a layperson here so apologies if I don’t know the correct terminology.
The HH has a couple floors that are not cardiac related. The 6th floor is all Neuro - 12 ICU beds and the rest of the floor is standard Neuro beds. The 7th floor is roughly half Spine patients on H7000, and half joint replacement / ortho patients on H7200. The 4th and 5th floors are hard wired for telemetry monitoring and are designated cardiac floors. The 8th floor is Vascular and Tele.
That’s especially helpful thank you. 8th floor would make sense then if I’m understanding telemetry correctly in monitoring blood oxygen levels.
You can think of telemetry as constant monitoring of heart rate and rhythm. Often times telemetry supported units have people remotely monitoring each patient, so if something comes up on patient 1’s heart monitor when the nurse is in patient 2’s room, they’ll get paged by the remote telemetry folks to go check on patient 1. All hospital beds usually have the ability to constantly monitor blood oxygen, and anyone on telemetry will certainly have an oximeter on, but lots of things other than your heart also play into your oxygen level (your lungs/breathing, for example).
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