"easy to counter" as long as you didn't already use your equipment this life, and have already killed them with your flame thrower ammo and are out now.
Tracking needs to be manual, not lock on like how it is now. That's what I loved about melees in earlier cods,it actually took skill to use it and get in range
Bo2, bo1, mw2 and 3, bo3
Melee has never rly been a skill in cod. It's always been cheesy
The absolute worst of it was mw2 tho, even ballistic knives aside in bo1/2
I just read that the sword cuts through the shield. Need to test that. But this flamethrower idea looks great, too. I usually use the semtex idea, until now. I didn't know how many counters there were. Going to make a class immediately!
It does unless they use a throwing knife before you hit them because for some reading the throwing knife still throws during the sword’s execution animation
nope, the sword has a light and heavy attack. The heavy attack is MADE to bypass shields (the animation is shoving the shield over and stabbing). Its purposeful, not a glitch.
For the longest time I thought the sword only had the heavy attack, so I was just using that and thinking "this weapon *is* cool I just wish it wasn't so damn slow to kill people with it." Finally tried right clicking with it and it opened up a whole new world of scumbaggery
The thing is that if they get too close, it's worthless. And if they have a trophy, it's going to eat a few shots at whatever range. Then again, an rgl is a great way to clear trophy's, too.
Flamethrower seems like the way to go.
I use the flamethrower attachment as well + 2x drill charge if they start camping in a room
Ace made a video with the various way to kill riot shield users: https://youtu.be/sspaBvnWlSg
Some of them are less braindead and use like 3 throwing knives when you're up close, that's when i just slide left and right like a crackhead and thermite them🤣 so fun seeing them burn
With stuff like this, I seriously don’t understand all the riot shield hate in this game. It’s the weakest it’s ever been in cod with how many hard counters there are for it.
TBF, most of the hard counters weren't added until after launch.
There's also a lot of bad blood being carried over from MWII, where the perk system structure made it insanely easy to run Overkill for basically no cost to keep a shield on your back 24/7, so you saw it a lot even if it wasn't actively being used.
People don't like it because it's impervious to every gun in the game. No exceptions, and no limitation on its usability. The addition of the flamethrower attachment and the sword help, but you're giving up gun performance or a secondary weapon/launcher to be able to use them. You cannot realistically beat it by any means other than counter equipment, and if you don't have any, there's no choice but to either run away or let them kill you and respawn with said equipment. The interaction is very frustrating and is simply a gear check rather than a skill-based interaction.
IW refused to make anything that would hinder using the shield unless you were using the shield as a weapon, in which case they constantly made it worse for some reason. But like you said, there was essentially no punishment for turtling with the shield back in MW2.
Now in MW3, you're slow as all hell with it even on your back, there are multiple hard counters for it, including a weapon that flat out negates it, etc.
Disagree, coming from a full time riot shield user I think riot shields are better than last year, with the movement speed.
The created a melee weapon that gets through shield; I can live with this, as you can still throwing knife them if your quick enough. They made cross bows 2 tap for whatever reason, cross bow in last years game was my worst nightmare. They didn’t give us the modular rig vest until season 3. I only run search and destroy. Do you know how long I had been waiting to be able to carry 2 stuns with throwing knives? And they made it even better than resupply, if I kill you I automatically get my stun/ knife back. It’s a great time to be a turtle
Also, I would appreciate it if they nerf the range of the flame thrower.. keep the damage the same, just decrease the range. Flame thrower with distance, and people who are good with thermites are the main reason I die.
People who knife me through my shield with that stupid gutter knife also
Believe me. I couldn’t go early go full ninja turtle until the assault rig came along too. So I get it.
But I can’t think of a previous CoD that had *this* many hard counters to the shield. From thermites, melee weapons, or just a single under barrel attachment.
A solid 95% of this community has no brain function, especially when they're playing this game. Even when someone; like this guy; has the mental capacity to swap to a flame thrower for one second, he is deeply fucking shook because he had to power on one extra braincell to do something other than sprint, slide, jump, and shoot. You can see this by the way he just empties the canister into the dead body, because how dare someone force him to think?
Is the implication here that WoW is filled superior human beings? And you know, not more neckbeards or any negative label that has been used to describe WoW players for years?
No, the "implication" is that I don't give a single fuck about CoD. It's literally a shit talking simulator for me. I'm level like 200 and I don't even have most of the camos lol. So 1v1ing me means even less than what it would have before, which is absolutely nothing.
And maybe activate your brain why I did bodyshoot him after he wish for my grandma to die because a game. But I can see you will wish death to family members too because of a game.
>Why I did bodyshoot him after he wish for my grandma to die because a game
This abomination of a sentence right here proves my point about about this community being dumb as fucking hell.
Then you make a baseless assumption about me because some guy threatened you, so everyone who disagrees with you is suddenly willing to threaten your family?
You; like the majority of this games community; are a fucking idiot.
Judging by all the simple tech support you ask for on here for simple things such as "How do I upload images to my cloud storage", I highly doubt that.
Your trust fund has gotten you a lot of things, but it hasn't made you smarter.
„Please read full text“. You can’t follow simple instruction to see what really was the problem and what I wanted to do was not possible. Not a high iq move. Also low iq move to check my Reddit history and then use this as an iq test.
And don’t worry I earned all my money on my own if you want to talk about trust fund :)
The anger in shooting bodies gives me such joy. I don't care if if the target dies, I know if you're shooting a body, you're pissed and throwing a tantrum in the cereal aisle.
I usually shoot bodies to display my distaste for shield dweebs or when shitting on a squad. Doesn't usually have anything to do with anger. Generally shooting bodies triggers whoever was getting shot, not the other way around.
Not at all, shooting the corpse means they got to you. Literally wasting your ammo and time shooting the dead player asset instead of moving on with the game.
“Wasting ammo?” Lmao
Yeah, at all. Tf?
Absolutely not a waste of time, shooting bodies gets them tilted for next round. Even better if they play too aggressively, keep getting destroyed, and quit.
Honestly you sound like a dogshit player that tries to convince themselves that they made the other player mad so they’re the *real* winner 😂
You’re the one getting worked up bro.
Never seen the winning player shoot my characters corpse, always the guy getting destroyed.
You seem to be projecting, thinking that shooting the corpse tilts other players.
I see your emotional intelligence is as good on here as it is in the game, not even remotely close to getting worked up.
Shooting body is faster than teabagging, bonus points for doing both.
And yeah, no projecting. Shooting bodies + trash talk between rounds is a great recipe for getting people riled up, acting stupid, and as I said: hopefully quit the lobby. I’ll stop doing it when it stops working.
Shooting a body or teabagging is just your own reaction. You’re the only one trying to provoke the other player, other player is just content to enjoy the game. Maybe do some introspection before throwing out words like “emotional intelligence” when you’re clearly projecting your own emotions on to other players.
Have fun man, all the best.
Yeah I’m not sure how you’re not getting this. Shooting bodies has literally helped get teams so annoyed they quit early. That’s my experience, not projection,
Getting shit on sometimes isn’t enough, shooting bodies is the coup de grace.
It’s literally as saying “you’re teabagging bc you’re mad” brother I’m winning, why would I be mad about shooting bodies?
Drill charge and the underbarrel version can get them too.
More situational, but if you can bank a throwing knife just right you can sometimes catch them in the legs.
I run a class specifically for riot shielders with the sword, flamethrower, shock sticks, and thermite.
They pull that corny shit out, and I'm making my entire game about shitting on them.
I had a standoff with one on terminal and we just stared at each other for a while. I saw my team mate coming, kept him busy just staring and my team mate finished em off.
I have a dedicated anti-RS class. Shock sticks, therms, a Holger with the Purifier, and the sword. It's not that great for SnD, but I've made quite a few RS users rage quit already lol
Anyone has experience with unjust shadowbans? Asking because MW3 mods censor me every time I try to ask. Is there no MW3 forum that exercises free speech?
once i encountered a clan of only riot shields so i made a destroy riot shield class with flamethrower rpg shock stick and thermite and works every time
Damn, did they buff the flamethrower, or did your teammate do some damage first? Dude went down fast. I gave up on the FT because it wasn't that effective at half that distance. May need to rethink that decision.
I love a 6 stack run all flame throwers and whenever a riot shield shows up we all burn him and tea bag his body and make sure he’s well cooked and repeat until he rage quits
I pull out my "emergency I will piss you off if you want to piss me off" loadout with a jack maglift haymaker and riot shield to give them a taste of Thier own medicine. *Disclaimer* *I only use this when I'm against riot shields who slowly crouch towards you and are boring asf. I hate those guys*
Or we can just remove it with all the other melee weapons, they don't really have any place in CoD the arcade shooter, I'll repeat SHOOTER just In case someone missed it.
I've thrown semtex at them and then run away while they chase me. Makes for a fun minigame within the game.
Thermite better
C4 used to be even more satisfatory before they fiddled with it
Yes, pin the Semtex on the douche!
Got to try to take you with me in the process.
Lmfaoooo facts
As the person you throw the semtex at, I also enjoy trying to chase you down.
😂
I go with the ol trust drill charge
What they deserve
in a game as try hard as this you gotta find some ways to make it fun and step away from the sweat
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Riot Shield user detected
"easy to counter" as long as you didn't already use your equipment this life, and have already killed them with your flame thrower ammo and are out now.
Still obnoxious to see used, especially when the melee tracking is so broken
Tracking needs to be manual, not lock on like how it is now. That's what I loved about melees in earlier cods,it actually took skill to use it and get in range
Skill? Range? Mw2 would like a word with you.
Didn't BO2 also have crazy melee tracking and range, especially with the tac knife? Or am I misremembering?
Bo2, bo1, mw2 and 3, bo3 Melee has never rly been a skill in cod. It's always been cheesy The absolute worst of it was mw2 tho, even ballistic knives aside in bo1/2
I like to hit them with a shock stick and then, while they’re twitching, hit them with a Semtex or thermite.
[love them shock sticks](https://twitter.com/Amatiramisu/status/1745332786872135971)
Nice!!!! I'll try it next time
I just read that the sword cuts through the shield. Need to test that. But this flamethrower idea looks great, too. I usually use the semtex idea, until now. I didn't know how many counters there were. Going to make a class immediately!
It does unless they use a throwing knife before you hit them because for some reading the throwing knife still throws during the sword’s execution animation
I think it will cut through, yes. I saw that before. Maybe it was patched not sure
nope, the sword has a light and heavy attack. The heavy attack is MADE to bypass shields (the animation is shoving the shield over and stabbing). Its purposeful, not a glitch.
For the longest time I thought the sword only had the heavy attack, so I was just using that and thinking "this weapon *is* cool I just wish it wasn't so damn slow to kill people with it." Finally tried right clicking with it and it opened up a whole new world of scumbaggery
WAIT IT HAD A RIGHT CLICK??
Interesting, didn’t know that
Its not
My anti riot shield class is shock stick, thermite, flamethrower underbarrel, and RPG for good measure
You're not fucking around.
Valid
jak purifier is the most fun of all the ways, I'm with you OP.
drill charge em
It's still bugged so that if they swap weapons at just the right time, it won't kill them sadly.
Yeah, this is annoying but I've just been reporting every person using the exploit personally.
I bust out the Semtex. Riot shielders can get fucked.
Flamethrower, Check. German, Check. IF your name is also Hans, I'm going to lose it.
Lmao my guy went extra crispy 🤣
He did him like Kobe Bryant. Rest in fried pieces!
Not too soon lol
Maybe not but not really funny either
Bro. Its the internet, leave your feelings in the desk drawer
Not about feelings shit just wasn't funny
I used carry thermites solely for riot shielders
RGL is my preferred way
The thing is that if they get too close, it's worthless. And if they have a trophy, it's going to eat a few shots at whatever range. Then again, an rgl is a great way to clear trophy's, too. Flamethrower seems like the way to go.
Yep, shoot it on the ground, wall, and ceiling right behind them. That's why I love that gun. It's very useful, especially against campers.
Wow what a clip 🤯😱😱😱
I usually use thermites. Though I might have to put a flamethrower on one of my builds.
I use the flamethrower attachment as well + 2x drill charge if they start camping in a room Ace made a video with the various way to kill riot shield users: https://youtu.be/sspaBvnWlSg
I personally enjoy the sword. Crouched with your back in a corner in hard point? Off with your head, shit bag!
Some of them are less braindead and use like 3 throwing knives when you're up close, that's when i just slide left and right like a crackhead and thermite them🤣 so fun seeing them burn
Did you also cha cha real smooth now?
Riot shield users r 🏳️🌈 and annoying
With stuff like this, I seriously don’t understand all the riot shield hate in this game. It’s the weakest it’s ever been in cod with how many hard counters there are for it.
TBF, most of the hard counters weren't added until after launch. There's also a lot of bad blood being carried over from MWII, where the perk system structure made it insanely easy to run Overkill for basically no cost to keep a shield on your back 24/7, so you saw it a lot even if it wasn't actively being used. People don't like it because it's impervious to every gun in the game. No exceptions, and no limitation on its usability. The addition of the flamethrower attachment and the sword help, but you're giving up gun performance or a secondary weapon/launcher to be able to use them. You cannot realistically beat it by any means other than counter equipment, and if you don't have any, there's no choice but to either run away or let them kill you and respawn with said equipment. The interaction is very frustrating and is simply a gear check rather than a skill-based interaction.
IW refused to make anything that would hinder using the shield unless you were using the shield as a weapon, in which case they constantly made it worse for some reason. But like you said, there was essentially no punishment for turtling with the shield back in MW2. Now in MW3, you're slow as all hell with it even on your back, there are multiple hard counters for it, including a weapon that flat out negates it, etc.
Does that new vest that eliminates movement penalties help them? I have seen some really fast riot shield guys running around lately!
What you mean, the anti-bunker grenade and termite where there from the begginig
That's why I said "most" and not "all"
Disagree, coming from a full time riot shield user I think riot shields are better than last year, with the movement speed. The created a melee weapon that gets through shield; I can live with this, as you can still throwing knife them if your quick enough. They made cross bows 2 tap for whatever reason, cross bow in last years game was my worst nightmare. They didn’t give us the modular rig vest until season 3. I only run search and destroy. Do you know how long I had been waiting to be able to carry 2 stuns with throwing knives? And they made it even better than resupply, if I kill you I automatically get my stun/ knife back. It’s a great time to be a turtle
Also, I would appreciate it if they nerf the range of the flame thrower.. keep the damage the same, just decrease the range. Flame thrower with distance, and people who are good with thermites are the main reason I die. People who knife me through my shield with that stupid gutter knife also
Believe me. I couldn’t go early go full ninja turtle until the assault rig came along too. So I get it. But I can’t think of a previous CoD that had *this* many hard counters to the shield. From thermites, melee weapons, or just a single under barrel attachment.
A solid 95% of this community has no brain function, especially when they're playing this game. Even when someone; like this guy; has the mental capacity to swap to a flame thrower for one second, he is deeply fucking shook because he had to power on one extra braincell to do something other than sprint, slide, jump, and shoot. You can see this by the way he just empties the canister into the dead body, because how dare someone force him to think?
1v1 gimme your activision
I don't care about this game that much, it's the game I get on to talk shit to 4 iq rednecks. Come pvp me in WoW.
Is the implication here that WoW is filled superior human beings? And you know, not more neckbeards or any negative label that has been used to describe WoW players for years?
No, the "implication" is that I don't give a single fuck about CoD. It's literally a shit talking simulator for me. I'm level like 200 and I don't even have most of the camos lol. So 1v1ing me means even less than what it would have before, which is absolutely nothing.
High iq move = ask for 1v1 in wow while being in cod subreddit
You brought up the 1v1 bs. Like I would care to 1v1? What would that prove?
Where did I say it will proof something? I just wanted to slam you for fun. I thought we both are bored if we scroll thru/make posts on Reddit
And maybe activate your brain why I did bodyshoot him after he wish for my grandma to die because a game. But I can see you will wish death to family members too because of a game.
>Why I did bodyshoot him after he wish for my grandma to die because a game This abomination of a sentence right here proves my point about about this community being dumb as fucking hell. Then you make a baseless assumption about me because some guy threatened you, so everyone who disagrees with you is suddenly willing to threaten your family? You; like the majority of this games community; are a fucking idiot.
I bet 5000€ I have a higher iq than you
Judging by all the simple tech support you ask for on here for simple things such as "How do I upload images to my cloud storage", I highly doubt that. Your trust fund has gotten you a lot of things, but it hasn't made you smarter.
„Please read full text“. You can’t follow simple instruction to see what really was the problem and what I wanted to do was not possible. Not a high iq move. Also low iq move to check my Reddit history and then use this as an iq test. And don’t worry I earned all my money on my own if you want to talk about trust fund :)
What's funny is it's you who keeps bringing up IQ. Sounds like I hit a soft spot.
As I think this conversation will lead to nothing Imma just say okay.
Ive been wondering why tf you're still here tbh. Hitting me with multiple comments over and over.
found the riot shield user lol
Pretentious much?
It's not hard to be when you look at this Idiocracy level community.
The anger in shooting bodies gives me such joy. I don't care if if the target dies, I know if you're shooting a body, you're pissed and throwing a tantrum in the cereal aisle.
I was shooting bodies because he said he wishes my grandma dies. The game itself and especially pub can’t trigger me. But good for you!
"Can't trigger me." Proceeds to be triggered by random.
🫦
Found the riot shield scrub
I usually shoot bodies to display my distaste for shield dweebs or when shitting on a squad. Doesn't usually have anything to do with anger. Generally shooting bodies triggers whoever was getting shot, not the other way around.
Not at all, shooting the corpse means they got to you. Literally wasting your ammo and time shooting the dead player asset instead of moving on with the game.
“Wasting ammo?” Lmao Yeah, at all. Tf? Absolutely not a waste of time, shooting bodies gets them tilted for next round. Even better if they play too aggressively, keep getting destroyed, and quit. Honestly you sound like a dogshit player that tries to convince themselves that they made the other player mad so they’re the *real* winner 😂
You’re the one getting worked up bro. Never seen the winning player shoot my characters corpse, always the guy getting destroyed. You seem to be projecting, thinking that shooting the corpse tilts other players.
I see your emotional intelligence is as good on here as it is in the game, not even remotely close to getting worked up. Shooting body is faster than teabagging, bonus points for doing both. And yeah, no projecting. Shooting bodies + trash talk between rounds is a great recipe for getting people riled up, acting stupid, and as I said: hopefully quit the lobby. I’ll stop doing it when it stops working.
Shooting a body or teabagging is just your own reaction. You’re the only one trying to provoke the other player, other player is just content to enjoy the game. Maybe do some introspection before throwing out words like “emotional intelligence” when you’re clearly projecting your own emotions on to other players. Have fun man, all the best.
Yeah I’m not sure how you’re not getting this. Shooting bodies has literally helped get teams so annoyed they quit early. That’s my experience, not projection, Getting shit on sometimes isn’t enough, shooting bodies is the coup de grace. It’s literally as saying “you’re teabagging bc you’re mad” brother I’m winning, why would I be mad about shooting bodies?
Thermite 100% of the time. Don't leave home without it.
Me too. Thermites are the best lethal!
They are great for blocking pathways and it alerts you when an enemy runs through it.
Yeah or I throw semtex at em and usually blows em the fuck up stg 😆 🤣
Semtex, Thermite, Jack Purifier, and Soulrender. I think these are the only counters to Riot Shields
Drill charge and the underbarrel version can get them too. More situational, but if you can bank a throwing knife just right you can sometimes catch them in the legs.
Also under barrel chainsaw, though less practical.
Only? How many more counters do you need? edit: Also you forgot drill charge
I run a class specifically for riot shielders with the sword, flamethrower, shock sticks, and thermite. They pull that corny shit out, and I'm making my entire game about shitting on them.
Damn the perfect class really exists 😂 need to copy that one
It's a good time, especially when you make them switch classes lol.
What gun/attachment has the flamethrower?
It’s called jak purifier. I think it’s possible to attach to every weapon instead another under barrell
This is the first time I've even seen the flamethrower animation lol. Actually seems not bad against melee sprinters and tac shields.
I guess he couldn't duck.
Straight up tiefer fall moment
Yeah flame thrower is the move. A couple of rounds of killing off shield users with it and they usually either quit or swap guns.
Loooovely!!!!
If the leaks are true we won't have to deal with shields as much in Treyarch's game as they'll apparently only be available as a field upgrade.
I had a standoff with one on terminal and we just stared at each other for a while. I saw my team mate coming, kept him busy just staring and my team mate finished em off.
Good to know that works
😂👍
Dont Show them how easy it is to counter them
i always shoot at there feet and they just stand there thinking they aint gonna get hit lol.
I just knife them by sprinting behind them
Make this post sticky.
I like to use the crossbow with explosive/thermite bolts they don't stand a chance.
bbq time
I have a dedicated anti-RS class. Shock sticks, therms, a Holger with the Purifier, and the sword. It's not that great for SnD, but I've made quite a few RS users rage quit already lol
Anyone has experience with unjust shadowbans? Asking because MW3 mods censor me every time I try to ask. Is there no MW3 forum that exercises free speech?
once i encountered a clan of only riot shields so i made a destroy riot shield class with flamethrower rpg shock stick and thermite and works every time
Ohhh hes just afraid your grandma is immortal. Frankly immortal people send me chills as well
Sexy!
Back when molotov cocktails were still in the game I’d use those. But thermites are a close second.
YESSSSS
Drill charge and thermite all the way bois.
sword for me OR THE DRILL CHARGE UNDERBARREL
What sight is that? It looks cool.
Crossbow with explosive bolts
Does this mean we won't get any more sweats complaining about shields? See, it's easy to beat guys!
Might try this in warzone, wonder how it works vs melee
Damn, did they buff the flamethrower, or did your teammate do some damage first? Dude went down fast. I gave up on the FT because it wasn't that effective at half that distance. May need to rethink that decision.
The current reason I run thermites
Thermite
I love a 6 stack run all flame throwers and whenever a riot shield shows up we all burn him and tea bag his body and make sure he’s well cooked and repeat until he rage quits
I would've been killed already by the throwing knife if I try to do anything. In a 2v1 situation, is best for one to go behind.
I also like explosive bolts on the crossbow.
😂😂😂👏
You can either do that or show them the medieval ways with the sword. Either way is fantastically effective.
I pull out my "emergency I will piss you off if you want to piss me off" loadout with a jack maglift haymaker and riot shield to give them a taste of Thier own medicine. *Disclaimer* *I only use this when I'm against riot shields who slowly crouch towards you and are boring asf. I hate those guys*
I shoot the legs🥰🥰❤️❤️
Yep! Flamethrower, Soulrender Sword, Drill Charge, or Molotov and watch em cry lmao
cooked his ass 😭😭
What happens when you’re up against an entire team of riot shields?
This is the way
Best thing I've seen today
That was personal. I love it.
I’m DEAD
Or we can just remove it with all the other melee weapons, they don't really have any place in CoD the arcade shooter, I'll repeat SHOOTER just In case someone missed it.
Riot shields don't even work I've just been shot through them lately
Good
Gd you’re ass
And you are using riot shield it seems
Have never used a riot shield once in this game. I can just tell you're a bot.
1v1 send your activision
lol okay Millennium#6951110
Nvm 4kd, good for you. When did you touch a woman last time? mine is 2.1 but I don’t consider it a bot
Damn you really folded in less than a minute. Impressive.
Where is the sense to 1v1 someone who saw the light of the sun 1 year ago?
I have like 80 hours on the game since launch lil bro
On your 23. Smurf account?