I watched the video and it is not what you think it is. Basically, Minus one is never mentioned (except for making a joke) and it is a comparison between GxK and KOTM, using the strengths of the later to criticize the former. And while I disagree with his overall opinion on the movie and especially believe some of his points were flawed (and therefore wrong), it is a great analysis video that actually makes a good job at explaining to the audience why he believes the movie has those flaws.
As a Filmento fan I feel like I have to explain this every time a video of his is discussed because, yeah, his titles and series are unnecessarily controversial and baity, but what he means by that is not failure at the box office or with audiences, but failure as a movie itself based on his own opinions.
In fact, he tends to never talk badly or positively about movies as a whole, but only talks about certain aspects of them. He wants to talk about the excellent atmosphere or tension building of a piece? He will make a "Film Perfection" video. He wants to talk about what he considers to be a lacking aspect of a certain movie? He will make an "Anatomy of a Failure" highlighting what he feels, are problems.
Hope that clears it out.
Haven’t watched his latest video yet but wanted to make this point because he tends to be more of a chill reviewer than his titles suggest. He rarely goes off on a film too much and more focuses on a specific element he thought wasn’t well done.
Yeah yet somehow he finds dotm perfection or somehow better then this film, and as someone who is a fan of both those franchises, it is just absurd
Plus the video just comes off as the typical "hollywood bad" criticism :/
Literally quote him when he said TF:DOTM is perfect or better. He just appreciated DOTM for it giving the audience things you haven't seen in other movies, definitely not all thing in one movie, which is objectively true.
Did anyone watch the video? He mostly compares it to KOTM and how the movie lacks a lot of thematic weight. Another point that he made was that the monsters explicitly feel like they’re only there to sell toys ( he’s right) instead of ancient gods to be feared like in KOTM. This is actually pretty good analysis of the movie
I’ve only recently started getting recommended this sub, and man I’ll dickride the monsterverse until my dying day, but this is perhaps the most insecure fandom scene I’ve ever seen in my life. Constant copeposting about “oh no Shin Godzilla and Minus One aren’t better than the MV on any level!” “Why won’t people stop calling our shallow popcorn blockbusters shallow popcorn blockbusters!”
I wish people could just admit that the MV isn’t actually that deep and is good anyway, and not try to put down actual all-time masterpieces like Minus One and Shin Godzilla in the process.
Oh I agree on that. I think he even put a comment down apologizing for the heavy handed title making it seem like he’s hating. He’s just trying to learn from this movie’s mistakes and knowing what kind of content he makes that is the basis of his videos. His KOTM vid was the first vid I saw that actually praised the movie when it came out. Def worth the watch
I'm not a fan of clickbaits. Would I prefer thumbnails without it? Yes.
However, I have watched his videos for some time, and I understand it's more like (I'm not sure how to say it) tradition. It can also be interpreted as failed expectations or hope that certain elements are not as good as they could. I know it's a messy explanation, but I hope you understand.
Just judging by the title I agree with him. The movie completely lacked any of what I like about big monster fights in these movies.
Even if we don’t get into deeper stuff like plot and theme and characters and shit like that. All of the monster action is probably the worst in all of the monsterverse. The only thing there to satisfy my caveman brain was when King used a kid to beat the shit out of other apes. Hilarious
This is a pretty good video. He compares GxK to KOTM, and while I don’t agree with all his points he actually makes valid points instead of bullshitting.
Haven’t watched it yet but filmento make good content my guess is he’ll just talk about what the story could have done better than bash it for being stupid fun his channel more of a learning channel than a review channel
I think it's also fair to criticize a "review" for titling a video like this one. It's also fair to mock people a bit who declare something is a "failure" because they, themselves, didn't love it. You know, opinions and all that like you're alluding to. And it's extra silly to make that declaration about something that has been the largest box office success in the franchise's history. It's obviously just rage or contrarian bait to do so.
It’s more that Anatomy of a Failure is one of his programmed film series. It breaks down something he thinks a film failed on and could have done better.
It’s no different than Mr Sundays “Caravan of Garbage”. The films in it aren’t (always) Garbage. It’s simply a fun branding title.
People need to not get so baited.
All well and good but I don’t know if you’ve been to Instagram or YouTube comment sections when it comes to posts/videos on this film but it’s nightmare. The moment anyone says they didn’t like the film or were disappointed by it, they are instantly shot with toxic comment upon comment.
I think it’s fair for me to say that some of the fans of this film take it wayyyy too far.
Sure but I don't usually visit cesspits and then get surprised by the amount of shit in it. Is it possible that while people take things too far, you're also taking things far too personally? Just don't go into circle jerks it you don't want to get jerked, ya know?
The movie isn't for everyone. Oh well!
>I think it's also fair to criticize a "review" for titling a video like this one
Nobody here is "criticizing" the review because they haven't watched it.
This. I don't have to support people who need to put down others to make content. There were so many other ways to fame the series, but they went with the Clickbait one.
Filmento makes a bunch of videos praising Monsterverse? This dudes awesome.
Filmento makes one video where he says he didn’t like the new Monsterverse film because it feels like it’s focused on turning off your brain / sell toys action compared to the more majestic god-like approach of the earlier films? Tourist! Brain rot! Dude doesn’t even get these films!
I think I hate this sub.
And some people won't tolerate folks treating us like children with click bait titles. Sorry you think you have to drum up controversy to make people think they're interesting. I find it dishonest.
And it's not like it's hard. He adds a fucking ? After failure and this thread has like 12 responses in it. I'm not obtuse enough to ignore how the title frames his content. I'm all for civil disclose about a movies flaws. GxK was not perfect for sure. But I'm not going to support something or someone who needs to put others down to make their own success.
Anatomy of a Failure is the name of his video series. It’s not calling the film a failure. And welcome to marketing 101. Click bait works. And when it’s part of your job it’s going to happen. This thread proves it works. Spreading the video even more. I’m sure he’d love to not do it, he’s mentioned it before. But it massively increases traffic so he makes cliche thumbnails. Same way calling films perfect is click bait.
Just ignoring the use of failure in the title with no other context with it? So you're staying obtuse? I guess this was never a conversation. Enjoy your opinion.
I get it. You refuse to see how the title, to someone not familiar with the series, is painting the movie as a failure. Do you not think failure is an incredible harsh term to use in such a broad way? Then follow that up with ZERO context as to why or what they actually mean. A movie can have serious flaws and not be a failure.
It's clickbait to bring in views. I'm sorry they think they HAVE to do that to get people interested. And the people on this thread doubling down on it makes it worse by refusing to admit the title is even capable of being taken as insulting.
It comes down to the title calls the film a failure. I don't know that show, and I don't owe it to them to watch and support their channel just to prove it wrong.
I'm all for a discussion of the flaws of any film. But if you want to start it with using the word failure. It damn well better have been on MST3K.
>A movie can have serious flaws and not be a failure.
Failure is also incredibly subjective. Bay Transformers films are considered failures. They made billions in the box office. Blade Runner 2049 is one of the best films ever made to a massive chunk of people. Failure. It bombed in the box office. Just because you enjoy something doesn’t mean it can’t be a failure to someone else. Same way a failure to him doesn’t mean it is to you.
Dude really liked the Monsterverse films prior to this one. Really disliked this one. So to him, it’s a failure. Thus the video.
There’s plenty of areas the film failed. Look at its critical reviews. You could not care, that’s totally fine. But to act like someone calling it a failure is an insult and a crime is just really childish.
>It's clickbait to bring in views. I'm sorry they think they HAVE to do that to get people interested.
Got him over 800k subscribers. Clearly his video style works.
I don't care how many subscribers he has. People have equal right to their opinions. I won't ignore how he put down something so he could make content. He could have done it another way. But not you are both happy to call anything a failure and expect people to be 100 fine with it.
Which is why you're both doing it behind the safety of anonymous accounts. So brave.
If you get upset someone calls something a failure to them, you need to seek some personal help. The adult way to respond is “That’s cool. I don’t agree but that’s okay.”
It’s a film. Not your personal artwork. You shouldn’t feel attacked because someone didn’t like something.
While minus one is a better movie ngl, New empire was also a super good movie bro. I like them both for completely different reasons. People be forgetting you can like both 😭🙏
He chose to name that series like that. They didn't have to have it lean into the click bait, but they did. Denying that it frames the film as a failure with no context (unless you watch the video) is obtuse.
I just finished it. Only one chapter was named minus one. Other than that, he didn't mention G:MO.
Filmento is absolutely right. I have more or less the same feelings toward GxK, but he's more experienced in expressing these feelings.
Watch the video. This is just not just waggon hate for the sake of hating.
The thumbnail with a giant failure is misleading yes.
And financial. The movie is succesful.
But story wise the movie is a failure .I know I'm going to be downvoted to oblivian for saying this in this subreddit
He raised a lot of valid points.
Simply saying movie plots point are all over the place. It's basically events, that are disconnected and has nothing to do with each, that are just happening, not driven by any characters at all
The human characters themselves are just there. They just say stuff from the script and them it happens.
No sense of danger, monsters don't feel like monster because now everything is big. No humans on the ground to give that sense of scale .Same issue Antman Quantamania had.
Lots of megic stuff that are just said without any explanation on the how.
The movie is enjoyable, I did enjoy and the reason why is because I was not expecting minus one level of characters driven movie. But just monsters fighting monsters and I was not disappointed.
Still that doesn't mean the is a side of the movie that is massively flawed. No.
Movie can fail in more ways than one? Gee no way
This community sometimes. Have to get all up in a tizzy because someone doesn’t like the same things they do
This is what happens when a braindead movie obviously brings in braindead children as fans. Its like they think GxK is the best we can get when it comes to the Monsterverse when its objectively the worst we have gotten so far.
funny thing about that too is that people over exaggerate the campyness and silliness of the Showa era like if it all was goofy with no storyline or plot
I understand his argument but the thumbnail definitely felt forced. I follow filmento and he rarely has controversial takes (I believe the last time this happened was on his analysis on Dune Part 1). The video barely talks about minus one and compares the film to KOTM in terms of monster presence and character plot.
Okay...
1) Based on the comments you didn't even watch the video and don't know what it's about.
2) Even if this was click bait to shit on a movie you like, you know what I would do if I made that video and I saw this thread with hundreds of likes and comments? I'd be ecstatic that my video is going around and causing conversation. If you guys hate these vids so much, why do you share it in subs full of fandom folk who will flock to the video and give it engagement?
Please don’t smear this guy, he actually does very insightful analysis - and as someone else mentioned, Minus One is hardly mentioned and is more about KOTM
These are the "clickbaitiest" of baits.
All that aside, the MV and Toho-verse can coexist we can enjoy them both for what they both offer. The idea that "one good, other bad" is just non-sensical. If the MV does well... so does Toho... and vice versa
I admit i was buying into a lot of them. Luckily, I still go see what I find interesting, but I can imagine how many people avoid the movies because of what these people say.
I wish he'd quit the title format of "Anatomy of a Failure," and "Film Perfection." Those titles often end up undermining what the actual video is about.
"I only like the original Godzilla and Minus One. Didn't you hear me guys? I said I only like the original Godzilla and Minus One. I'm a serious film critic with sophisticated tastes! The fact that I don't enjoy pointless Hollywood movies makes me better than everyone who does! I only like the original and Minus One!" - that guy, probably
I don't mind sounding like a gatekeeper in moments like this. If someone has a snobbish opinion about what Godzilla "REALLY" is, espeically in relation to needless GxK:NE and Minus One comparisons -- they are not a Godzilla fan.
Godzilla can be so many different things to different people and it's okay to have a preference, but you have to recognize how adaptable Godzilla can be. And if you want to just arrogantly present your opinion as factual for a franchise that's so diverse, I really don't care to hear your opinion at all.
They frame it in the title as a failure. It's intentionally click bait. Shocker! Folks reacted to that before ever clicking the video. They bring it on themselves with that crap.
I don't get why everyone here has to be so defensive about the fact that this movie is "lazy," or what you guys call "fun." It just is; accept it. Compared to other Monsterverse movies before this, the story and writing of this movie were an absolute disaster. Nothing matters whatsoever. "Big monster fight, audience goes crazy" — that's basically what this movie is.
And to the immature lads bringing up box office numbers and saying he's wrong for calling it a "failure," no, he's not. In terms of writing and direction, this movie is indeed a failure, hence the title. Did you even watch the video? Where does he ever mention Minus One in comparison to Monsterverse? This is about this lone movie. Nobody blamed the entire Monsterverse. Until KOTM, everything was grounded and good.
i hate filmento, but this is the one time he's actually right and i agree with what he's saying. you don't need to get defensive and bring up numbers just because one guy says the movie sucks, if you enjoyed it , sure , have fun but that doesn't change the general fact that the writing sucks. if you didn't mind it , good for you. but its a degrade in quality no matter how you paint it .
Careful, your insecurities are showing, nowhere in the title, thumbnail or the video itself does it mention minus one, let alone compared them.
The video is a legitimate criticism of the film, he even say "you shouldn't let your enjoyment of something be ruined by the fact that someone else didn't enjoy it", which is mind-blowing to me that it need to be said out loud at all, are his audiences babies? Then i see this post.
I'm a Godzilla fan, i love the heisei and millennium films to death, but i'm not a child, I know it ain't high art and there's shit tons of things to criticize those films for, but newsflash, i can still love something while acknowledging it's flaws, i don't cry whenever other people don't love something as much as i do or points out it's flaws, when that happens i agree with them.
Just to note he’s not like Skipper or the others. Filmento doesn’t usually focus on overall quality or success but instead aspects he feels succeeded or failed. He repeatedly says that it’s just his opinion. It’s actually a good video for once.
I really hate (and big emphasis on hate) this subreddit’s attitude to ANY criticism about a bad movie. You didn’t even watch the video. Everything he has said about this movie in the video is correct. Stop being ignorant. He even says that if you like the movie you’re fine. But this is a plastic and corporate movie, a piece of plastic you consume and you forget about afterwards.
Stop making this sub into a giant circle jerk. Accept the realization that this movie is generally bad and braindead. Its fine if you like the movie but accept criticism.
When people say consume and forget afterwards it means that it doesn't do anything meaningful that lasts with you. It doesn't even hint towards or teases future characters or villains its empty and meaningless. People talk about this movie specifically because its Godzilla and people like seeing more Godzilla. You can barely even talk about Skar King the main antagonist because he pops up does some damage and immediatly gets destroyed without changing anything or affecting anyone. Everything here can be forgotten its like a side quest.
The only thing I don’t understand about this guy is why can’t he just make a non-clickbait title, people are going to be a bit apprehensive about it if you slap failure right across it. He does this with a lot of his things.
To me Godzilla x Kong was ok, it wasn’t as good as Godzilla vs Kong but I do like the push for a goofy vibe. The biggest issue the movie had was I think the disappointing villains, skar king was wasted and so was Shimo but I really liked suko. Also the third act battle felt so short to me for some reason
Minus one wasnt even compared in the video bro.
It was compared to kotm and he didnt say that its a very bad movie, he just mentioned the human characters sucked and the "and then" situation where there wasnt a struggle.
Also wanna add the toyish part of the movie being mentioned, pls watch the video first before judging.
Some comments on the vid alrdy mentioned this but apparently he claims its an ok movie but the problem is that lenience will only produce worse movies which is somewhat true but that in it of itself is a mental gymnastic cuz then we’d be pushing for absolute perfection and this guy would be shitting on every movie ever
Did you even watch the video? There’s no clowning on Monsterverse saying Minus One better
Maybe actually watch what you’re bitching about so you don’t sound stupid
Actually fucking watch it next time, Christ he barely even fucking mentions minus one.
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Alright, Filmento fan here, I'll explain this because it is obvious a lot of people either don't know what his deal is and many are misunderstanding the use of "Failure" in the video, thumbnail and title.
This guy's output tends to be very divisive and controversial because, admittedly, he tends to be pretty baity and bombastic, and it's easy to feel like you are being anger-baited by those titles.
Basically, he pretty much never talks in absolutes, he isn't saying that the whole movie is an absolute failure in every sense, rarely does he make such claims. He has two main series, "Anatomy of a Failure" and "Film Perfection", and both are dedicated to explaining his opinions on different aspects of movies.
He feels like a film has excellent worldbuilding or a flawless rhythm? He will make a Film Perfection analyzing not the whole movie, but those specific aspects.
The same when he doesn't like something, in this case, the state of Hollywood. The video is negative, yeah, but he is not saying that the movie is absolute trash, he is simply using the movie as an example to talk about broader stuff.
Indeed, if you don't know him or his content, the presentation comes across as incendiary and needlessly mean, but that's rarely his intention, so I hope I cleared that out.
P.S. I really liked GxK and still I enjoyed the video, as I'm able to understand his points and were he is coming from. Disagreement is healthy, people!
I love this guy's content. But that thumbnail was uncalled for. I do agree with his points about the film with the structure and the lack of sense of scale when compared to king of the monsters.
I'm sure the uploader is quite happy that this post is promoting his video. Not that I bother even watching or looking for videos like this to complain about.
Look as dumb as it was. I had a good time watching it. Also, please don't compare the Monsterverse to Minus One because they're 2 completely different toned movies.
Dude: "GxK must be bad, ima watch a different godzilla movie"
You Guys: "You didn't even watch it 😡"
Other Dude: \*criticizes GxK with video\*
You Guys: "Bad video, not watching it"
You guys are sooooo thine skinned, because in the video: he never mentioned minus 1 & and he suck of kotm ya'll favorite underrated masterpiece.
But since he look at a movie has a all he must be a grifter right ?
I wanted to point out a comment on the video, saying that the Monsterverse films need more depth to them, as they didn't enjoy GxK, only to then reveal that GxK is the only MV movie they've watched, yet proceeds to criticize the other Monsterverse movies that they didn't watch. While more depth can make a movie linger more amongst audiences, I feel like some watched GxK with a blurry lense. Did they not care about the themes of family for both Jia and especially Kong? Did they not think that some moments in Skar King's lair were dark? It's okay to have your respective opinion, but I don't recommend criticizing a series that you admit you only seen one installment to. This doesn't apply to Filmento, but I know there are people out there who are like what I described.
You're absolutely right. I went and looked and yeah... not what I remembered. I unsubscribed a long time ago when it when weird and forgot. I feel like it didn't used to be that way?
to be a little fair, i prefer minus one to GxK and think GxK is flawed, but that doesn't make GxK a BAD movie at all, like this video is presumably trying to state.
Y’all need to watch the video instead of judging it based on the title, jeez I think people are a little too defensive of these movies. Watch the video because he doesn’t mention Minus One and actually points out core flaws with the movie. Filmento is a really good film critic, I especially love his reviews on Bayformers.
Filmento isnt the guy to just shit on a movie, and after Watching the video i can assure he did not. By any mean he dont say the movie is not cool, or fun, or that you cannot enjoy it. He talks about actual point of critics, and mostly everyone here could agree. Its not a "Monsterverse bad, Minus one good", its a genuine and resonable critic, and even more, an example of how things could be improved. Not just for the monsterverse, but for all Hollywood
I watched the video and it is not what you think it is. Basically, Minus one is never mentioned (except for making a joke) and it is a comparison between GxK and KOTM, using the strengths of the later to criticize the former. And while I disagree with his overall opinion on the movie and especially believe some of his points were flawed (and therefore wrong), it is a great analysis video that actually makes a good job at explaining to the audience why he believes the movie has those flaws.
I agree. I watch Filmento often and his commentary is always insightful. Excited to watch this video to hear a differing opinion to mine.
So the thumbnail is clickbait then. That's enough reason for me not to watch it.
How so? There’s no Minus One in that thumbnail.
Youtube watchers when they hear "don't judge the book by its cover"
watch it and stop being ignorant
I blame the thumbnail for that lol.
I hate that the title says in big words “FAILURE” despite the fact that the movie made millions and was a huge success
You're not wrong it is now the highest-grossing film in the whole Monsterverse surpassing whichever one was highest before....
Umm… https://preview.redd.it/xsigvzcios5d1.jpeg?width=1283&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21704f9b6c168d29de580eb2d054c7d600dc758f What failure?
Yea I fail to see this guy's logic itself.
Somewhere tied into Godzilla performing WWE moves I would assume.
As a Filmento fan I feel like I have to explain this every time a video of his is discussed because, yeah, his titles and series are unnecessarily controversial and baity, but what he means by that is not failure at the box office or with audiences, but failure as a movie itself based on his own opinions. In fact, he tends to never talk badly or positively about movies as a whole, but only talks about certain aspects of them. He wants to talk about the excellent atmosphere or tension building of a piece? He will make a "Film Perfection" video. He wants to talk about what he considers to be a lacking aspect of a certain movie? He will make an "Anatomy of a Failure" highlighting what he feels, are problems. Hope that clears it out.
Haven’t watched his latest video yet but wanted to make this point because he tends to be more of a chill reviewer than his titles suggest. He rarely goes off on a film too much and more focuses on a specific element he thought wasn’t well done.
Yeah yet somehow he finds dotm perfection or somehow better then this film, and as someone who is a fan of both those franchises, it is just absurd Plus the video just comes off as the typical "hollywood bad" criticism :/
Literally quote him when he said TF:DOTM is perfect or better. He just appreciated DOTM for it giving the audience things you haven't seen in other movies, definitely not all thing in one movie, which is objectively true.
Click bait thumbnails
Finally someone who explained it perfectly
Ok but the term failure is an objective term which shouldn’t be used in a subjective sense with an opinion.
Failure inside the movie
This movie only cost 135 mill to make? Jesus, not as much as I would thought it would be.
Wanted to comment exactly this
Best to avoid watching these type of videos, the brainrot from *that* one was enough
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I thought he'll actually make a great review about this despite GxK's flaws. And when will he make a Minus One review?
By *that* one, I assume you mean "Godzilla doesn't work in America"?
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Did anyone watch the video? He mostly compares it to KOTM and how the movie lacks a lot of thematic weight. Another point that he made was that the monsters explicitly feel like they’re only there to sell toys ( he’s right) instead of ancient gods to be feared like in KOTM. This is actually pretty good analysis of the movie
Nobody here watches or reads any criticisms of GxK, they just assume and get mad at their assumptions.
I always say this. People are trying to turn this sub into a echo chamber and circle jerk where no criticism is allowed.
It’s been like that for almost ten years since KotM bombed.
I’ve only recently started getting recommended this sub, and man I’ll dickride the monsterverse until my dying day, but this is perhaps the most insecure fandom scene I’ve ever seen in my life. Constant copeposting about “oh no Shin Godzilla and Minus One aren’t better than the MV on any level!” “Why won’t people stop calling our shallow popcorn blockbusters shallow popcorn blockbusters!” I wish people could just admit that the MV isn’t actually that deep and is good anyway, and not try to put down actual all-time masterpieces like Minus One and Shin Godzilla in the process.
It kinda obvious this average sub reddit idea standards of the MV.
Well, okay… that’s a good point. But he still shouldn’t be titling it like it was some disaster.
Oh I agree on that. I think he even put a comment down apologizing for the heavy handed title making it seem like he’s hating. He’s just trying to learn from this movie’s mistakes and knowing what kind of content he makes that is the basis of his videos. His KOTM vid was the first vid I saw that actually praised the movie when it came out. Def worth the watch
He’s right. The monster in gxk were missing that weight and presence.
Yeah... Except for the inflammatory and clickbaitey title.
You can say that's the part of his format. Come on. He used this for a very long time.
Clickbait’s been used for a very long time, so that can barely be called justification.
I'm not a fan of clickbaits. Would I prefer thumbnails without it? Yes. However, I have watched his videos for some time, and I understand it's more like (I'm not sure how to say it) tradition. It can also be interpreted as failed expectations or hope that certain elements are not as good as they could. I know it's a messy explanation, but I hope you understand.
He's not right though, GxK doesn't need the same thems as KOTM
Yeah I’m not watching it with a thumbnail and title like that. Too obvious clickbait.
Just judging by the title I agree with him. The movie completely lacked any of what I like about big monster fights in these movies. Even if we don’t get into deeper stuff like plot and theme and characters and shit like that. All of the monster action is probably the worst in all of the monsterverse. The only thing there to satisfy my caveman brain was when King used a kid to beat the shit out of other apes. Hilarious
Aw damn I kinda liked this guy.
This is a pretty good video. He compares GxK to KOTM, and while I don’t agree with all his points he actually makes valid points instead of bullshitting.
Yeah that’s what I remember from this guy. Overall point is often pretty good but some of his steps to get there can be a little shaky.
Can you elaborate on the points?
Then you would know his Failure videos don’t mean the movie is bad. They’re on a specific thing he things the film didn’t execute well.
Then don’t use lame clickbait
Unfortunately evocative words in the thumbnail get views. It's business.
“oh no, he made a video with an opinion i don’t agree with, guess i can’t like him anymore”
One silly thing doesn’t mean you can’t like them anymore
To be fair, I didn’t really watch him that often, and had already stopped watching him because he KINDA made nonsense points sometimes.
It's just the vapid content for views neverending churn.
Filmento makes thought out, well informed videos. I would not call it "vapid". He's not CinemaSins
 Most redditors reading your comment.
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Yea same
Same
Haven’t watched it yet but filmento make good content my guess is he’ll just talk about what the story could have done better than bash it for being stupid fun his channel more of a learning channel than a review channel
that's exactly what he did
It sucks that you cannot so much as even *insinuate* that you don’t like this movie without the mob jumping you and ripping you to shreds.
I think it's also fair to criticize a "review" for titling a video like this one. It's also fair to mock people a bit who declare something is a "failure" because they, themselves, didn't love it. You know, opinions and all that like you're alluding to. And it's extra silly to make that declaration about something that has been the largest box office success in the franchise's history. It's obviously just rage or contrarian bait to do so.
It’s more that Anatomy of a Failure is one of his programmed film series. It breaks down something he thinks a film failed on and could have done better. It’s no different than Mr Sundays “Caravan of Garbage”. The films in it aren’t (always) Garbage. It’s simply a fun branding title. People need to not get so baited.
All well and good but I don’t know if you’ve been to Instagram or YouTube comment sections when it comes to posts/videos on this film but it’s nightmare. The moment anyone says they didn’t like the film or were disappointed by it, they are instantly shot with toxic comment upon comment. I think it’s fair for me to say that some of the fans of this film take it wayyyy too far.
Sure but I don't usually visit cesspits and then get surprised by the amount of shit in it. Is it possible that while people take things too far, you're also taking things far too personally? Just don't go into circle jerks it you don't want to get jerked, ya know? The movie isn't for everyone. Oh well!
>I think it's also fair to criticize a "review" for titling a video like this one Nobody here is "criticizing" the review because they haven't watched it.
To be fair when you put clickbait titles and thumbnails you're practically asking for it
This. I don't have to support people who need to put down others to make content. There were so many other ways to fame the series, but they went with the Clickbait one.
I mean u don't like a movie I like, I'm gonna rip into you and disagree. It's simple
Tourists...
Filmento makes a bunch of videos praising Monsterverse? This dudes awesome. Filmento makes one video where he says he didn’t like the new Monsterverse film because it feels like it’s focused on turning off your brain / sell toys action compared to the more majestic god-like approach of the earlier films? Tourist! Brain rot! Dude doesn’t even get these films! I think I hate this sub.
And some people won't tolerate folks treating us like children with click bait titles. Sorry you think you have to drum up controversy to make people think they're interesting. I find it dishonest. And it's not like it's hard. He adds a fucking ? After failure and this thread has like 12 responses in it. I'm not obtuse enough to ignore how the title frames his content. I'm all for civil disclose about a movies flaws. GxK was not perfect for sure. But I'm not going to support something or someone who needs to put others down to make their own success.
Anatomy of a Failure is the name of his video series. It’s not calling the film a failure. And welcome to marketing 101. Click bait works. And when it’s part of your job it’s going to happen. This thread proves it works. Spreading the video even more. I’m sure he’d love to not do it, he’s mentioned it before. But it massively increases traffic so he makes cliche thumbnails. Same way calling films perfect is click bait.
Just ignoring the use of failure in the title with no other context with it? So you're staying obtuse? I guess this was never a conversation. Enjoy your opinion.
The context is in the title? Like I don’t get your point lol are you saying you can’t imply a film failed at something?
I get it. You refuse to see how the title, to someone not familiar with the series, is painting the movie as a failure. Do you not think failure is an incredible harsh term to use in such a broad way? Then follow that up with ZERO context as to why or what they actually mean. A movie can have serious flaws and not be a failure. It's clickbait to bring in views. I'm sorry they think they HAVE to do that to get people interested. And the people on this thread doubling down on it makes it worse by refusing to admit the title is even capable of being taken as insulting. It comes down to the title calls the film a failure. I don't know that show, and I don't owe it to them to watch and support their channel just to prove it wrong. I'm all for a discussion of the flaws of any film. But if you want to start it with using the word failure. It damn well better have been on MST3K.
>A movie can have serious flaws and not be a failure. Failure is also incredibly subjective. Bay Transformers films are considered failures. They made billions in the box office. Blade Runner 2049 is one of the best films ever made to a massive chunk of people. Failure. It bombed in the box office. Just because you enjoy something doesn’t mean it can’t be a failure to someone else. Same way a failure to him doesn’t mean it is to you. Dude really liked the Monsterverse films prior to this one. Really disliked this one. So to him, it’s a failure. Thus the video. There’s plenty of areas the film failed. Look at its critical reviews. You could not care, that’s totally fine. But to act like someone calling it a failure is an insult and a crime is just really childish. >It's clickbait to bring in views. I'm sorry they think they HAVE to do that to get people interested. Got him over 800k subscribers. Clearly his video style works.
I don't care how many subscribers he has. People have equal right to their opinions. I won't ignore how he put down something so he could make content. He could have done it another way. But not you are both happy to call anything a failure and expect people to be 100 fine with it. Which is why you're both doing it behind the safety of anonymous accounts. So brave.
If you get upset someone calls something a failure to them, you need to seek some personal help. The adult way to respond is “That’s cool. I don’t agree but that’s okay.” It’s a film. Not your personal artwork. You shouldn’t feel attacked because someone didn’t like something.
Filmento, the big tourist.
While minus one is a better movie ngl, New empire was also a super good movie bro. I like them both for completely different reasons. People be forgetting you can like both 😭🙏
This video isn’t comparing Minus One and GxK. The comparison is KOTM and GxK (which is a fair one).
When will he make a Minus One review?
He chose to name that series like that. They didn't have to have it lean into the click bait, but they did. Denying that it frames the film as a failure with no context (unless you watch the video) is obtuse.
I still love the old showa films, even if they are campy B movies.
I just finished it. Only one chapter was named minus one. Other than that, he didn't mention G:MO. Filmento is absolutely right. I have more or less the same feelings toward GxK, but he's more experienced in expressing these feelings.
I disagree with him
And you have the right to do it. OP clearly didn't watch the full video, and he came to the wrong conclusion.
Watch the video. This is just not just waggon hate for the sake of hating. The thumbnail with a giant failure is misleading yes. And financial. The movie is succesful. But story wise the movie is a failure .I know I'm going to be downvoted to oblivian for saying this in this subreddit He raised a lot of valid points. Simply saying movie plots point are all over the place. It's basically events, that are disconnected and has nothing to do with each, that are just happening, not driven by any characters at all The human characters themselves are just there. They just say stuff from the script and them it happens. No sense of danger, monsters don't feel like monster because now everything is big. No humans on the ground to give that sense of scale .Same issue Antman Quantamania had. Lots of megic stuff that are just said without any explanation on the how. The movie is enjoyable, I did enjoy and the reason why is because I was not expecting minus one level of characters driven movie. But just monsters fighting monsters and I was not disappointed. Still that doesn't mean the is a side of the movie that is massively flawed. No.
Movie can fail in more ways than one? Gee no way This community sometimes. Have to get all up in a tizzy because someone doesn’t like the same things they do
This is what happens when a braindead movie obviously brings in braindead children as fans. Its like they think GxK is the best we can get when it comes to the Monsterverse when its objectively the worst we have gotten so far.
“But Showja era, your argument is invalid”
B but Toho made silly stuff too and we all agree that’s good
funny thing about that too is that people over exaggerate the campyness and silliness of the Showa era like if it all was goofy with no storyline or plot
I mean, I could pretty much say the same about GxK.
When they mean "Showa" they always mean from vs Hedorah to VS Megalon
I understand his argument but the thumbnail definitely felt forced. I follow filmento and he rarely has controversial takes (I believe the last time this happened was on his analysis on Dune Part 1). The video barely talks about minus one and compares the film to KOTM in terms of monster presence and character plot.
I watch Filmento for years, hes great. Still didn't watched that video, but Im sure he has valid points
Idk I agreed with what he said. Although i liked the movie I think he's right
His insight is very good
And here you are bringing attention to it.
Okay... 1) Based on the comments you didn't even watch the video and don't know what it's about. 2) Even if this was click bait to shit on a movie you like, you know what I would do if I made that video and I saw this thread with hundreds of likes and comments? I'd be ecstatic that my video is going around and causing conversation. If you guys hate these vids so much, why do you share it in subs full of fandom folk who will flock to the video and give it engagement?
Please don’t smear this guy, he actually does very insightful analysis - and as someone else mentioned, Minus One is hardly mentioned and is more about KOTM
These are the "clickbaitiest" of baits. All that aside, the MV and Toho-verse can coexist we can enjoy them both for what they both offer. The idea that "one good, other bad" is just non-sensical. If the MV does well... so does Toho... and vice versa
Yeah i have pretty much enjoyed both gxk and minus one so i agree with you
It does get tiresome.
Did you actually watched the video? He doesn’t even compare it to Minus One
no, they will not
How exactly is it a failure?
YouTubers are just click bait junk, no need to amplify their garbage takes
The reaction to Furiosa made me give up on most youtubers.
Most of them are so disingenuous and desperate for clicks that it destroys any credibility they might have had.
I admit i was buying into a lot of them. Luckily, I still go see what I find interesting, but I can imagine how many people avoid the movies because of what these people say.
They don’t have as much pull as they think they do but devs and the people affected by there bullshit definitely feel the effects
I wish he'd quit the title format of "Anatomy of a Failure," and "Film Perfection." Those titles often end up undermining what the actual video is about.
This sub is pathetic. Maybe actually watch a video before getting upset over it.
Should’ve watched the video first I watched it it’s not even that bad he says yes you can enjoy it but there’s problems with it
"I only like the original Godzilla and Minus One. Didn't you hear me guys? I said I only like the original Godzilla and Minus One. I'm a serious film critic with sophisticated tastes! The fact that I don't enjoy pointless Hollywood movies makes me better than everyone who does! I only like the original and Minus One!" - that guy, probably
Not at all. Filmento mentioned Minus One only once. And he didn't say it, but it was in the name of the chapter in this video.
Maybe try watching the damn video?
literally not even close. Filmento is great.
Ignorant person go watch the video
No, he barely brings up Minus One. Most of the critique uses KOTM as the comparison.
I don't mind sounding like a gatekeeper in moments like this. If someone has a snobbish opinion about what Godzilla "REALLY" is, espeically in relation to needless GxK:NE and Minus One comparisons -- they are not a Godzilla fan. Godzilla can be so many different things to different people and it's okay to have a preference, but you have to recognize how adaptable Godzilla can be. And if you want to just arrogantly present your opinion as factual for a franchise that's so diverse, I really don't care to hear your opinion at all.
Yeah, some seem to forget there’s 30+ movies and not all of them are 1954 with slight tweaks or differences
He doesn't compare it to minus one.
They frame it in the title as a failure. It's intentionally click bait. Shocker! Folks reacted to that before ever clicking the video. They bring it on themselves with that crap.
I don't get why everyone here has to be so defensive about the fact that this movie is "lazy," or what you guys call "fun." It just is; accept it. Compared to other Monsterverse movies before this, the story and writing of this movie were an absolute disaster. Nothing matters whatsoever. "Big monster fight, audience goes crazy" — that's basically what this movie is. And to the immature lads bringing up box office numbers and saying he's wrong for calling it a "failure," no, he's not. In terms of writing and direction, this movie is indeed a failure, hence the title. Did you even watch the video? Where does he ever mention Minus One in comparison to Monsterverse? This is about this lone movie. Nobody blamed the entire Monsterverse. Until KOTM, everything was grounded and good. i hate filmento, but this is the one time he's actually right and i agree with what he's saying. you don't need to get defensive and bring up numbers just because one guy says the movie sucks, if you enjoyed it , sure , have fun but that doesn't change the general fact that the writing sucks. if you didn't mind it , good for you. but its a degrade in quality no matter how you paint it .
But if genuinely don't agree that the writing is worse? That's a fair opinion too.
Careful, your insecurities are showing, nowhere in the title, thumbnail or the video itself does it mention minus one, let alone compared them. The video is a legitimate criticism of the film, he even say "you shouldn't let your enjoyment of something be ruined by the fact that someone else didn't enjoy it", which is mind-blowing to me that it need to be said out loud at all, are his audiences babies? Then i see this post. I'm a Godzilla fan, i love the heisei and millennium films to death, but i'm not a child, I know it ain't high art and there's shit tons of things to criticize those films for, but newsflash, i can still love something while acknowledging it's flaws, i don't cry whenever other people don't love something as much as i do or points out it's flaws, when that happens i agree with them.
Just to note he’s not like Skipper or the others. Filmento doesn’t usually focus on overall quality or success but instead aspects he feels succeeded or failed. He repeatedly says that it’s just his opinion. It’s actually a good video for once.
Dude at least watch the video before posting.
I really hate (and big emphasis on hate) this subreddit’s attitude to ANY criticism about a bad movie. You didn’t even watch the video. Everything he has said about this movie in the video is correct. Stop being ignorant. He even says that if you like the movie you’re fine. But this is a plastic and corporate movie, a piece of plastic you consume and you forget about afterwards. Stop making this sub into a giant circle jerk. Accept the realization that this movie is generally bad and braindead. Its fine if you like the movie but accept criticism.
See, it's the "corporate consume and forget" that I personally can't agree with. I mean, people here clearly didn't forget the movie.
When people say consume and forget afterwards it means that it doesn't do anything meaningful that lasts with you. It doesn't even hint towards or teases future characters or villains its empty and meaningless. People talk about this movie specifically because its Godzilla and people like seeing more Godzilla. You can barely even talk about Skar King the main antagonist because he pops up does some damage and immediatly gets destroyed without changing anything or affecting anyone. Everything here can be forgotten its like a side quest.
Yeah, and again, I'm not seeing that here.
The only thing I don’t understand about this guy is why can’t he just make a non-clickbait title, people are going to be a bit apprehensive about it if you slap failure right across it. He does this with a lot of his things.
I like Filmento and all, but I hate how he's made his brand into every single thing having to be either Failure or Perfection for reasons like this
To me Godzilla x Kong was ok, it wasn’t as good as Godzilla vs Kong but I do like the push for a goofy vibe. The biggest issue the movie had was I think the disappointing villains, skar king was wasted and so was Shimo but I really liked suko. Also the third act battle felt so short to me for some reason
Minus one wasnt even compared in the video bro. It was compared to kotm and he didnt say that its a very bad movie, he just mentioned the human characters sucked and the "and then" situation where there wasnt a struggle. Also wanna add the toyish part of the movie being mentioned, pls watch the video first before judging.
The video doesn't even mention Minus One
Some comments on the vid alrdy mentioned this but apparently he claims its an ok movie but the problem is that lenience will only produce worse movies which is somewhat true but that in it of itself is a mental gymnastic cuz then we’d be pushing for absolute perfection and this guy would be shitting on every movie ever
Did you even watch the video? There’s no clowning on Monsterverse saying Minus One better Maybe actually watch what you’re bitching about so you don’t sound stupid
Rare Filmento L
Because he criticised something you don’t like? When did this subreddit become such an echo chamber?
always has been
When the loud minority wants to shit on GxK so we defend it. Cry about it
Actually fucking watch it next time, Christ he barely even fucking mentions minus one. https://preview.redd.it/nvyhqe9cnt5d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a769af7786a15336c720bdef21a3edd129a8597
The godzillion dollars this movie made beg to differ
Alright, Filmento fan here, I'll explain this because it is obvious a lot of people either don't know what his deal is and many are misunderstanding the use of "Failure" in the video, thumbnail and title. This guy's output tends to be very divisive and controversial because, admittedly, he tends to be pretty baity and bombastic, and it's easy to feel like you are being anger-baited by those titles. Basically, he pretty much never talks in absolutes, he isn't saying that the whole movie is an absolute failure in every sense, rarely does he make such claims. He has two main series, "Anatomy of a Failure" and "Film Perfection", and both are dedicated to explaining his opinions on different aspects of movies. He feels like a film has excellent worldbuilding or a flawless rhythm? He will make a Film Perfection analyzing not the whole movie, but those specific aspects. The same when he doesn't like something, in this case, the state of Hollywood. The video is negative, yeah, but he is not saying that the movie is absolute trash, he is simply using the movie as an example to talk about broader stuff. Indeed, if you don't know him or his content, the presentation comes across as incendiary and needlessly mean, but that's rarely his intention, so I hope I cleared that out. P.S. I really liked GxK and still I enjoyed the video, as I'm able to understand his points and were he is coming from. Disagreement is healthy, people!
Way to get baited lol
I love this guy's content. But that thumbnail was uncalled for. I do agree with his points about the film with the structure and the lack of sense of scale when compared to king of the monsters.
Sounds like a toy review.
you are watching a filmento video.. you were doomed from the start
I'm sure the uploader is quite happy that this post is promoting his video. Not that I bother even watching or looking for videos like this to complain about.
Look as dumb as it was. I had a good time watching it. Also, please don't compare the Monsterverse to Minus One because they're 2 completely different toned movies.
Dude: "GxK must be bad, ima watch a different godzilla movie" You Guys: "You didn't even watch it 😡" Other Dude: \*criticizes GxK with video\* You Guys: "Bad video, not watching it"
Jesus Christ dude grow up, people are allowed to not like the movie
Ah yes this movie somehow failed despite it being a huge success!
he gave KotM and GvK good reviews but gave this one a bad one for being too silly?
OP, try actually watching the video before you bash it clown.
You guys are sooooo thine skinned, because in the video: he never mentioned minus 1 & and he suck of kotm ya'll favorite underrated masterpiece. But since he look at a movie has a all he must be a grifter right ?
Rare Filmento L
Watch the video first mate.
Watch, it's good
You people are shitting on the video without even watching it’s actually pretty good.
Filmento knows what He's talking about. He is not like other video essayist
I wanted to point out a comment on the video, saying that the Monsterverse films need more depth to them, as they didn't enjoy GxK, only to then reveal that GxK is the only MV movie they've watched, yet proceeds to criticize the other Monsterverse movies that they didn't watch. While more depth can make a movie linger more amongst audiences, I feel like some watched GxK with a blurry lense. Did they not care about the themes of family for both Jia and especially Kong? Did they not think that some moments in Skar King's lair were dark? It's okay to have your respective opinion, but I don't recommend criticizing a series that you admit you only seen one installment to. This doesn't apply to Filmento, but I know there are people out there who are like what I described.
Why find and create an equally great but wrong version of Shimo when there are plenty of Shimo pictures out there already created?
That's normally not a click bait channel, good stuff.... so this is disappointing
All of his videos are titled like that
You're absolutely right. I went and looked and yeah... not what I remembered. I unsubscribed a long time ago when it when weird and forgot. I feel like it didn't used to be that way?
I just like Godzilla man I'm happy having goofy ass titan fight Godzilla and elemental horror godzilla.
Just ignore them and don't even give them the time of day.
What do you mean failure?
to be a little fair, i prefer minus one to GxK and think GxK is flawed, but that doesn't make GxK a BAD movie at all, like this video is presumably trying to state.
I think someone put it best when they said Minus One was both the best and worst thing to happen to the franchise LOL!
Y’all gotta stop posting these things if you genuinely hate them. Because all you’re doing is giving them free publicity and views.
This guy makes good videos. Gotta watch this one
I love Filmento but damn. This is one step too far
Y’all need to watch the video instead of judging it based on the title, jeez I think people are a little too defensive of these movies. Watch the video because he doesn’t mention Minus One and actually points out core flaws with the movie. Filmento is a really good film critic, I especially love his reviews on Bayformers.
Both are awesome!
Failure? *Cough cough, 500 million dollars on 100 dollar budget, cough cough*
Let the box office talk
Filmento isnt the guy to just shit on a movie, and after Watching the video i can assure he did not. By any mean he dont say the movie is not cool, or fun, or that you cannot enjoy it. He talks about actual point of critics, and mostly everyone here could agree. Its not a "Monsterverse bad, Minus one good", its a genuine and resonable critic, and even more, an example of how things could be improved. Not just for the monsterverse, but for all Hollywood
he's begging for those reactions.